Red Hat is promoting itself very well. It's good to see different people, either newbie or guru are able to use Linux. I have always used Slackware and always will, because Slack not only behaves like a "real" UNIX, but it can be used as a real UNIX. It's unlimited programmability is what makes it so special.
>But, in the next few years, IPv6 is expected to take off, providing enough IP addresses for every man, woman and child to have several dozen. (I'm not sure of the exact ratio, but it's big.) In that case, there's no reason to borrow IP addresses at all, and the only remaining reason for ISPs to exist goes away.
A few points...
1. Dynamic IPs give us limited protection from DOS attacks. If that asshole OP on #whatever always has the same IP I can nuke the crap out of him every time I feel like it.
2. ISPs have news servers. I changed ISPs because of news server volume. My current ISP has the largest volume news server in my state.
3. ISPs provide tech support for idiots. AOL would have been out of business 3 years ago when there was unlimited dialup for $20/mo if it were not for the idiots who NEED their service to be able to access the internet. There will always be idiots and either ISPs or consultants will be needed to care for them.
In my state cable co's have exclusive domain over individual municipalities. I have Adelphia, two miles south or nortn of me people have TCI. You get no choice.
If your cable co doesn't offer broadband (like mine does not) you should be able to get it from someone else who does (like TCI two miles south east of me).
Maybe I'm selfish, but that's my take. In other states where you can choose freely they spent the to deploy broadband nearly two years ago.
I about vomited all over my monitor from seeing a screenshot of their GUI installation, its just another wannabe win95 clone setup.. You cant be any more disgusting than trying to clone the look of win95 IMHO.
Especially when somepeople say that newbies find it easier, if that were the case, then why would they want to try linux.. you know.. try something *new*
In addition I want - internal GSM - Email/Browser - Radio + plugin for headphones
Re:SuSe s^^/will not be a pushover
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Posted by Synsthe:
I'm not sure if there's much point in responding to such a post from an AC. You seem to be quite tense, maybe you should relax a little before you shoot your mouth off?
> RedHat has these gimmic tools right there for > each newbie to use, and thoes tools suck.
You're accusing RedHat of "sucking" because they're attempting to provide utilities to aid in administration? You've got to be joking.
RedHat provides the tools - they do _not_ require you to use them, they are merely there as aids and can be discarded at your convenience.
>Yes default Xs wm, has a lot to do with how you >look at a distros plans to comfort the user. >Enough said
RedHat 6.0 no longer uses fvwm as the default WM, for your information, so this argument is void right off the bat. However, I can't pass this opportunity up.
Are you suggesting Linus is a lamer? Guess what. He uses fvwm (straight from the lion's mouth).
>Linux nut: I think RedHat has useradd, dont ask >me why
It has ``useradd'' and ``adduser'' for your information. Get your facts straight.
"It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt".
Thank you, for removing all doubt in this scenario Mr. AC =)
>Now of course you gona tell me to use configlinux >gui command to addusers? Bwhaha what happened to >fdisk?
What does adding users have to do with fdisk? Atleast be coherent in your attacks.
Actually I've already been contacted by a few employee's of RedHat regarding this issue - I'm quite willing to admit this was some disinformation that I fell for on the part of a devious reporter. I read an article without investigating further, and a few kind employee's have stated their position on the matters.
No, I wouldn't say they were perverting it, or attempting to extend and embrace it if they gave it blatant 100% support; read my post over again, I was defending them against somebody who accused them of being the MS of linux -- not accusing them myself.
Nobody in here can honestly say they've never fallen for something that looked trustworthy. I've been the victim of this, and I've been corrected. Live and learn.
-- Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
i740 is a terrible card...
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...and proprietary too. I believe the only opengl drivers which will be availible will be the TNT and g200 drivers...maybe 3dfx too if they change the interface to glx.
But anyway, the point is it's time for a new video card, the i740 is complete garbage.
-W.W.
Re:SuSe s^^/will not be a pushover
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> Now in SuSE you have SaX/Yast/fdisk Which are > far superior in usefulness than Redhats.
Guess what, RedHat has fdisk too. Guess what, RedHat doesn't use proprietary _toys_ like yast - guess what; this argument lacks any basis.
> KDE is standard on SuSE, well what comes with > RHAT standard? fvwm95? Sick
What are you getting at here? Is this argument honestly meant to be taken seriously? Or do you not know how to change the default WM used by X?
> Xconfigurator/configlinux and Disk Druid come to > mind. These gimmic guis actually do you MUCH > worse than XF86Setup/RTFM/and fdisk > respectively.
Odd seeing this argument. One, I've already stated is that RedHat comes with fdisk. RTFM yourself on that one. =)
Number two, are you honestly trying to count Xconfigurator against RedHat, yet you're using Yast as an example of why SuSe is better? I thought the basis of the two tools was the same -- to make a portion of operating your system easier.
Hm, so we can see that you have obviously have no valid complaint against RedHat. Have a nice day. =)
-- Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Re:Slashdot is booooooring!
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Posted by polar_bear:
Funny, I thought that being incorrect was THE mortal sin in Journalism. Hmmm...must have been that shoddy University I attended to get my J-Degree that convinced me of that.
Re:don't need no steenkin RH
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That's odd, I don't see you making, or helping make something better. Perhaps you're not able to, yet you find yourself more than able to whine and complain? Standard procedure for an AC no doubt.
If you consider the distribution broken, than don't use it, and stop bleeting about it like every other sheep who's along for the ride. If you think you can do better, than show your devotion to the Linux community and help RedHat fix their mistakes. Otherwise you're not doing one damn bit of good.
-- Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Re:Slashdot is booooooring!
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Posted by Synsthe:
If it's boring you, than don't read it. Nobody is forcing you here.
Oh btw, we'd miss you if you left, but we don't know who you are, Mr. AC. =)
> I would like to support Linux comunity but Im > not ready to support another Linux "BillGates".
I see this statement all too often, and as far as I'm concerned it's got no basis to it, other than jealousy. People are jealous that RedHat is succesful. People are jealous that they're not the ones who could be part of it.
Read this, for a very good story on why RedHat is not the MS of Linux:
..and once you're done reading that, get over it. =) RedHat is not trying to proprietarize Linux, and RedHat is doing nothing to keep the source from the people - if you want somebody to target, target Caldera; last I heard, you had to buy their cd to get the latest distro as it wasn't available from their FTP. RedHat provides theirs for download, and the source is there right alongside it. Yup. Sure looks like they're pulling anti-trust conspiracy moves to me.
This petty name calling and the distribution wars have got to stop. Having a favourite is one thing, blatanly calling down and refusing to acknowledge a distribution that doesn't agree with you is another thing entirely -- it's dangerous, both for your reputation in the eyes of others, and for Linux itself.
(Disclaimer: The author of this post does have a few bones to pick w/ RedHat, such as their refusal to support the LSB. RedHat is not completely innocent of all accusations leveled at them; they are _not_ however the Microsoft of Linux, not even close.)
I only have 4 machines in my bedroom and it gets freaking HOT. With the air conditioner in the next room running at full blast and a big ass box fan blowing cool air into the bed room it's still this how.
Imagine my problem multiplied by 2500. It might even be worth their while to explore the possibility of recapturing this heat for other uses.
(in some cities large building's air conditioning units run on steam power)
I don't think the real issue is whether or not the music can be copied with ease or fidelity. That is currently possible, although more difficult than with MP3. There is a ton of money locked up with distribution of recorded music. There are only a few players in the main distribution channel (Sony, BMI, etc.) and they stand to go through massive upheaval if the barriers to entry in the industry are reduced to recording an album on your Macintosh studio in your garage and chucking it out on the Internet. I've found that powerful monopolistic companies tend to get edgy when their market barriers are erased.
Ah - the so called unexexplained Gamma Ray Events are whole civilizations flashing from existence when they tried the same experiment. Unfortunately , the twinkling of an eye leaves little time for an escape plan like Jor-el provided for his son on Krypton.
Maybe a couple of million years ago, a scientist made the same mistake... who knows
Re:Carbos, Computers, Geeks, and Losing 100 Lbs
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Like I said, most of my calories come from high-sugar carbos. I eat a lot of rice, pasta, cereal. I don't eat that much meat. And I like to keep it under 1400 calories a day.
Hello friend,
I'm not a dietary expert or a nutritionist or anything, but I think you might see better results if you switch from 1400 calories of high-sugar carbs to the same or more number of calories of protiens.
Sugar is just absolute junk for your body. Even stuff like rice and pasta is not especially nutritious; it's mostly empty energy. Plus eating lots of proteins like meats or nuts simply *satisfies* you more than a big helping of pasta, you feel more full and want to eat less.
Eating dietary fat (like in meat) is not what makes you fat; for most people, that's eating sugar and other carbohydrates. Besides just gaining weight, it can cause other problems related to hypoglycemia; poor concentration, fatigue, etc.
Low-carb diets like the Atkin's Diet are not for everyone, but I've had great success with them. Lost 20+ lbs in the last month, and I'm never hungry.
I believe that from what i've read on the overclocking sites is that Cyrix is dead. They were bought out by some company, JVC?
Anyway don't count on them being around for that much longer- cheap pc's aren't using them anymore and i haven't seen any pc's in any ads touting a cyrix based processor.
I think that the agreement that cyrix made with emachines was that they'd continue to manufacture cpu's till the end of the year. Then who knows.
I may be wrong here about cyrix's plans but they did get bought and their cpus are slow! slower than any intel one!
:I installed it many times and everything just :plain annoys me, from the installer to the stupid :X only control panel. Hmm, so I have to do some :remote administration... Too bad, gotta have X.
For the record, I'm not a RedHat fan either - I use Debian. However, this argument is pretty baseless - You aren't required in any way to use that control panel tool to administer a RedHat box.
:And if you don't like it, don't buy or download :it. Use RedHat and never ever use Civ:CTP, :Borland's software (if they do it), Codewarrior, :or any other piece of useful software that isn't :specifically GPL'ed.
This part I have to agree with - I've witnessed far too many people whine and complain about software simply for the reason being that it's not free. Get over it - some things just weren't meant to be that way, and being that way doesn't make them any less useful. If you're going to pick at software, atleast find some valid reasons.
I think this is one problem out of a few that the Linux community faces right now; they're too busy fighting amongst themselves over stuff like this, instead of putting that energy to something useful. There are people who are so elitist in their views that they don't consider distributions like RedHat or suse, etc, to be Linux simply because they're backed by a company of some kind.
That's just silly I think. It's still Linux, and disregarding items simply for a commercial background is more trouble than it's worth. Quite simply, if you don't want to support the company for whatever reason, than don't - other than that, let people choose for themselves what they want; it's still Linux after all.
Okay.. slided a tiny bit off topic there with that last rant. =)
When large proft margins exist in an industry with low barriers to entry the normal result is that new suppliers come into the market and drive down prices with greater supplies.
Okay, so why can housing stay so expensive in Silicon Valley for a long period of time? My guess is that governments there prevent the building of large amounts of multi-story apartment and townhouse buildings.
What's the rationale for this? That unplanned growth creates problems? How can these problems possibly be worse than the problems caused by long commutes. How can these problems be worse than the burdens that so many SV residents carry in high monthly rents?
Deregulate the housing market and huge numbers of units will be built. Then prices will come down.
It is really that simple and hardly worth a discussion about life on Slashdot.
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Posted by sUbZ3r0:
Red Hat is promoting itself very well. It's good to see different people, either newbie or guru are able to use Linux. I have always used Slackware and always will, because Slack not only behaves like a "real" UNIX, but it can be used as a real UNIX. It's unlimited programmability is what makes it so special.
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangst:
>But, in the next few years, IPv6 is expected to take off, providing enough IP addresses for every man, woman and child to have several dozen. (I'm not sure of the exact ratio, but it's big.) In that case, there's no reason to borrow IP addresses at all, and the only remaining reason for ISPs to exist goes away.
A few points...
1. Dynamic IPs give us limited protection from DOS attacks. If that asshole OP on #whatever always has the same IP I can nuke the crap out of him every time I feel like it.
2. ISPs have news servers. I changed ISPs because of news server volume. My current ISP has the largest volume news server in my state.
3. ISPs provide tech support for idiots. AOL would have been out of business 3 years ago when there was unlimited dialup for $20/mo if it were not for the idiots who NEED their service to be able to access the internet. There will always be idiots and either ISPs or consultants will be needed to care for them.
LK
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangst:
In my state cable co's have exclusive domain over individual municipalities. I have Adelphia, two miles south or nortn of me people have TCI. You get no choice.
If your cable co doesn't offer broadband (like mine does not) you should be able to get it from someone else who does (like TCI two miles south east of me).
Maybe I'm selfish, but that's my take. In other states where you can choose freely they spent the to deploy broadband nearly two years ago.
LK
Posted by neuralfraud:
"STORM LINUX. WE MAKE LINUX LOOK GOOD"
I about vomited all over my monitor from seeing a screenshot of their GUI installation, its just another wannabe win95 clone setup.. You cant be any more disgusting than trying to clone the look of win95 IMHO.
Especially when somepeople say that newbies find it easier, if that were the case, then why would they want to try linux.. you know.. try something *new*
Posted by lamikr:
In addition I want
- internal GSM
- Email/Browser
- Radio + plugin for headphones
Posted by Synsthe:
I'm not sure if there's much point in responding to such a post from an AC. You seem to be quite tense, maybe you should relax a little before you shoot your mouth off?
> RedHat has these gimmic tools right there for
> each newbie to use, and thoes tools suck.
You're accusing RedHat of "sucking" because they're attempting to provide utilities to aid in administration? You've got to be joking.
RedHat provides the tools - they do _not_ require you to use them, they are merely there as aids and can be discarded at your convenience.
>Yes default Xs wm, has a lot to do with how you
>look at a distros plans to comfort the user.
>Enough said
RedHat 6.0 no longer uses fvwm as the default WM, for your information, so this argument is void right off the bat. However, I can't pass this opportunity up.
Are you suggesting Linus is a lamer? Guess what. He uses fvwm (straight from the lion's mouth).
>Linux nut: I think RedHat has useradd, dont ask
>me why
It has ``useradd'' and ``adduser'' for your information. Get your facts straight.
"It is better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt".
Thank you, for removing all doubt in this scenario Mr. AC =)
>Now of course you gona tell me to use configlinux
>gui command to addusers? Bwhaha what happened to
>fdisk?
What does adding users have to do with fdisk? Atleast be coherent in your attacks.
>Please don't whine Rhat users.
For the record, I use Debian.
--
Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Synsthe:
Actually I've already been contacted by a few employee's of RedHat regarding this issue - I'm quite willing to admit this was some disinformation that I fell for on the part of a devious reporter. I read an article without investigating further, and a few kind employee's have stated their position on the matters.
No, I wouldn't say they were perverting it, or attempting to extend and embrace it if they gave it blatant 100% support; read my post over again, I was defending them against somebody who accused them of being the MS of linux -- not accusing them myself.
Nobody in here can honestly say they've never fallen for something that looked trustworthy. I've been the victim of this, and I've been corrected. Live and learn.
--
Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by OGL:
...and proprietary too. I believe the only opengl drivers which will be availible will be the TNT and g200 drivers...maybe 3dfx too if they change the interface to glx.
But anyway, the point is it's time for a new video card, the i740 is complete garbage.
-W.W.
Posted by Synsthe:
> Now in SuSE you have SaX/Yast/fdisk Which are
> far superior in usefulness than Redhats.
Guess what, RedHat has fdisk too. Guess what, RedHat doesn't use proprietary _toys_ like yast - guess what; this argument lacks any basis.
> KDE is standard on SuSE, well what comes with
> RHAT standard? fvwm95? Sick
What are you getting at here? Is this argument honestly meant to be taken seriously? Or do you not know how to change the default WM used by X?
> Xconfigurator/configlinux and Disk Druid come to
> mind. These gimmic guis actually do you MUCH
> worse than XF86Setup/RTFM/and fdisk
> respectively.
Odd seeing this argument. One, I've already stated is that RedHat comes with fdisk. RTFM yourself on that one. =)
Number two, are you honestly trying to count Xconfigurator against RedHat, yet you're using Yast as an example of why SuSe is better? I thought the basis of the two tools was the same -- to make a portion of operating your system easier.
Hm, so we can see that you have obviously have no valid complaint against RedHat. Have a nice day. =)
--
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Posted by polar_bear:
Funny, I thought that being incorrect was THE mortal sin in Journalism. Hmmm...must have been that shoddy University I attended to get my J-Degree that convinced me of that.
Posted by Synsthe:
That's odd, I don't see you making, or helping make something better. Perhaps you're not able to, yet you find yourself more than able to whine and complain? Standard procedure for an AC no doubt.
If you consider the distribution broken, than don't use it, and stop bleeting about it like every other sheep who's along for the ride. If you think you can do better, than show your devotion to the Linux community and help RedHat fix their mistakes. Otherwise you're not doing one damn bit of good.
--
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Posted by Synsthe:
If it's boring you, than don't read it. Nobody is forcing you here.
Oh btw, we'd miss you if you left, but we don't know who you are, Mr. AC. =)
--
Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Synsthe:
/ index.html
> I would like to support Linux comunity but Im
> not ready to support another Linux "BillGates".
I see this statement all too often, and as far as I'm concerned it's got no basis to it, other than jealousy. People are jealous that RedHat is succesful. People are jealous that they're not the ones who could be part of it.
Read this, for a very good story on why RedHat is not the MS of Linux:
http://salon.com/tech/feature/1999/07/14/redhat
..and once you're done reading that, get over it. =) RedHat is not trying to proprietarize Linux, and RedHat is doing nothing to keep the source from the people - if you want somebody to target, target Caldera; last I heard, you had to buy their cd to get the latest distro as it wasn't available from their FTP. RedHat provides theirs for download, and the source is there right alongside it. Yup. Sure looks like they're pulling anti-trust conspiracy moves to me.
This petty name calling and the distribution wars have got to stop. Having a favourite is one thing, blatanly calling down and refusing to acknowledge a distribution that doesn't agree with you is another thing entirely -- it's dangerous, both for your reputation in the eyes of others, and for Linux itself.
(Disclaimer: The author of this post does have a few bones to pick w/ RedHat, such as their refusal to support the LSB. RedHat is not completely innocent of all accusations leveled at them; they are _not_ however the Microsoft of Linux, not even close.)
--
Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangst:
I only have 4 machines in my bedroom and it gets freaking HOT. With the air conditioner in the next room running at full blast and a big ass box fan blowing cool air into the bed room it's still this how.
Imagine my problem multiplied by 2500. It might even be worth their while to explore the possibility of recapturing this heat for other uses.
(in some cities large building's air conditioning units run on steam power)
LK
Posted by Lothario:
I don't think the real issue is whether or not the music can be copied with ease or fidelity. That is currently possible, although more difficult than with MP3. There is a ton of money locked up with distribution of recorded music. There are only a few players in the main distribution channel (Sony, BMI, etc.) and they stand to go through massive upheaval if the barriers to entry in the industry are reduced to recording an album on your Macintosh studio in your garage and chucking it out on the Internet. I've found that powerful monopolistic companies tend to get edgy when their market barriers are erased.
Posted by Lord Kano-The Gangst:
/. don't take themselves too seriously. I think that it's cool that they like a little joke now and then.
Over all I didn't think it was too great but the CmdrDorito thing cracked me up.
I think it's cool that the guy sat
I didn't think that tha "parody" site was all that great, but hell if you don't like it don't read it and quit yer bitchin.
LK
Posted by zyberphox:
Yes,. i wish they release the source code, bcoz it so slow in java
Posted by alanut:
Ah - the so called unexexplained Gamma Ray Events are whole civilizations flashing from existence when they tried the same experiment. Unfortunately , the twinkling of an eye leaves little time for an escape plan like Jor-el provided for his son on Krypton.
Posted by SmashPHASE:
"Trust me, I know what I'm doing..."
Posted by SmashPHASE:
Maybe a couple of million years ago, a scientist
made the same mistake... who knows
Like I said, most of my calories come from high-sugar carbos. I eat a lot of rice, pasta, cereal. I don't eat that much meat. And I like to keep it under 1400 calories a day.
Hello friend,
I'm not a dietary expert or a nutritionist or anything, but I think you might see better results if you switch from 1400 calories of high-sugar carbs to the same or more number of calories of protiens.
Sugar is just absolute junk for your body. Even stuff like rice and pasta is not especially nutritious; it's mostly empty energy. Plus eating lots of proteins like meats or nuts simply *satisfies* you more than a big helping of pasta, you feel more full and want to eat less.
Eating dietary fat (like in meat) is not what makes you fat; for most people, that's eating sugar and other carbohydrates. Besides just gaining weight, it can cause other problems related to hypoglycemia; poor concentration, fatigue, etc.
Low-carb diets like the Atkin's Diet are not for everyone, but I've had great success with them. Lost 20+ lbs in the last month, and I'm never hungry.
Posted by Napalm4u:
Intel is flooding the market trying to undercut AMD!!! this is illegal!!!!
The k7 will kill the p-3.
Hurahh!! Hurahh!! no more stupid chimes!!!!
The King is dead! Long live the King!
-grrhh hit enter and may have posted a blank post!
Posted by Napalm4u:
I believe that from what i've read on the overclocking sites is that Cyrix is dead. They were bought out by some company, JVC?
Anyway don't count on them being around for that much longer- cheap pc's aren't using them anymore and i haven't seen any pc's in any ads touting a cyrix based processor.
I think that the agreement that cyrix made with emachines was that they'd continue to manufacture cpu's till the end of the year. Then who knows.
I may be wrong here about cyrix's plans but they did get bought and their cpus are slow! slower than any intel one!
Posted by Synsthe:
:I installed it many times and everything just
:plain annoys me, from the installer to the stupid
:X only control panel. Hmm, so I have to do some
:remote administration... Too bad, gotta have X.
For the record, I'm not a RedHat fan either - I use Debian. However, this argument is pretty baseless - You aren't required in any way to use that control panel tool to administer a RedHat box.
:And if you don't like it, don't buy or download
:it. Use RedHat and never ever use Civ:CTP,
:Borland's software (if they do it), Codewarrior,
:or any other piece of useful software that isn't
:specifically GPL'ed.
This part I have to agree with - I've witnessed far too many people whine and complain about software simply for the reason being that it's not free. Get over it - some things just weren't meant to be that way, and being that way doesn't make them any less useful. If you're going to pick at software, atleast find some valid reasons.
I think this is one problem out of a few that the Linux community faces right now; they're too busy fighting amongst themselves over stuff like this, instead of putting that energy to something useful. There are people who are so elitist in their views that they don't consider distributions like RedHat or suse, etc, to be Linux simply because they're backed by a company of some kind.
That's just silly I think. It's still Linux, and disregarding items simply for a commercial background is more trouble than it's worth. Quite simply, if you don't want to support the company for whatever reason, than don't - other than that, let people choose for themselves what they want; it's still Linux after all.
Okay.. slided a tiny bit off topic there with that last rant. =)
--
Mark Waterous (mark@projectlinux.org)
Posted by rgparker:
When large proft margins exist in an industry with low barriers to entry the normal result is that new suppliers come into the market and drive down prices with greater supplies.
Okay, so why can housing stay so expensive in Silicon Valley for a long period of time? My guess is that governments there prevent the building of large amounts of multi-story apartment and townhouse buildings.
What's the rationale for this? That unplanned growth creates problems? How can these problems possibly be worse than the problems caused by long commutes. How can these problems be worse than the burdens that so many SV residents carry in high monthly rents?
Deregulate the housing market and huge numbers of units will be built. Then prices will come down.
It is really that simple and hardly worth a discussion about life on Slashdot.