To not do business with them again is certainly your prerogative, but seems awfully short-sighted. My guess is that, at this point, Sony is the LEAST likely company to ever try something like a rootkit again
The point of doing it because of principle is not because of future behavior. Having principles is important. It makes one a better person. I don't do it for Sony, I do it for myself.
If Sony gave a vague description, then I think both would be to blame. If Sony gave a very verbose description, and all the offending stuff was added by the firm for whatever reason, then sure I think they should sue. If, however, the firm built it to Sony's description, then obviously they have next to no liability (maybe accessory to crime or negligence).
What happened was criminal. If it was Sony's specification, then whoever specified and authorized should go to prison, just as would have happened if this were some individual "hacker." If the contractor did it on their own then some of them should go to prison, just as would have happened if this were some individual.
In hopes of avoiding a series of "you must be new here" and "welcome to America" replies, I'm not saying I'm surprised nobody was punished. I'm just saying that's what *should* have happened.
One of Sony's claims is that it was not delivered to specifications.
They should have said that a year ago. And bent over backward to fix the problem. Instead, you may recall, one of their public statements was to shrug it off and say "Most people don't even know what a rootkit is." As if somehow that was the salient point.
I can't understand how anybody who does understand what they did would ever do business with them again, just as a matter of principle.
Retarded Sony haters are right up there with retarded MS haters.
I don't hate them. And I'm pretty sure I'm not retarded. But doing business with a company that thinks it's reasonable to install a root kit on your computer *is* retarded.
There's an interesting trend in the comments... of assuming the engineers who designed these are idiots.
It happens every time. Take a look at the recent "Mars rovers in trouble" story, filled with posts that "explain" what should have been done. And here's a classic example of someone spending two seconds of thought on the blindly obvious.
In any case not being able to buy it without the subscription is the ultimate show-stopper for me.
Using it without a contract is trivial. There a dozens of stories about how to do it, but in the interest of not adding yet another iPhone story to/. I'm not linking to any.
Journalistically, this is about on a par with finding footage from the 50's saying we'd all be driving flying cars by the year 2000 and boldly asserting there's clearly a government conspiracy to hide the technology from the people to protect big oil.
Sure, just keep covering that up. Very clever of you to "casually" tie that in to this silly AMD article just to throw us off.
I would say that Microsoft is a lot worse than Sun and IBM.
I don't know about Sun, but in the "old days" IBM was ruthless. Although it may seem that one of Microsoft's few true inventions is FUD, even that they did not invent - they got it from IBM.
All he did was drop the I, which is a reasonably common thing to do in casual conversation where one wants to make the statement or request feel less "selfish."
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I take it then that you clicked on this story by mistake, and then in your haste to close it you bumped the keyboard and accidentally posted instead.
The point of doing it because of principle is not because of future behavior. Having principles is important. It makes one a better person. I don't do it for Sony, I do it for myself.
Publicly, I meant.
A hostile takeover is when shares of a company are purchased without regard for the company's wishes. How is that analogous to this?
What happened was criminal. If it was Sony's specification, then whoever specified and authorized should go to prison, just as would have happened if this were some individual "hacker." If the contractor did it on their own then some of them should go to prison, just as would have happened if this were some individual.
In hopes of avoiding a series of "you must be new here" and "welcome to America" replies, I'm not saying I'm surprised nobody was punished. I'm just saying that's what *should* have happened.
They should have said that a year ago. And bent over backward to fix the problem. Instead, you may recall, one of their public statements was to shrug it off and say "Most people don't even know what a rootkit is." As if somehow that was the salient point.
I can't understand how anybody who does understand what they did would ever do business with them again, just as a matter of principle.
And in his example, that's "just" because GM acquired Chevrolet.
I don't hate them. And I'm pretty sure I'm not retarded. But doing business with a company that thinks it's reasonable to install a root kit on your computer *is* retarded.
All you really need to know is that it came from Sony. How anybody can be willing to buy anything involving Sony is beyond me.
I see. I get it now.
What a strange category. "I'll take people who like cartoons for seven minutes and 27 seconds, Alex."
It happens every time. Take a look at the recent "Mars rovers in trouble" story, filled with posts that "explain" what should have been done. And here's a classic example of someone spending two seconds of thought on the blindly obvious.
So if they'd started the calendar 20 years later you'd be ok with it?
And when the phone can use an external monitor, mouse, and keyboard that'll be a pretty good solution.
All those stores you are talking about just unlock the phone to use as a glorified PDA.
No, you can use it full-service without a contract.
Yup. On the others all that neck hair kept getting in the way.
IBM is a $100B company. Marvell, for instance, earned just $300M last year, and would do backflips to sell ten million or so more chips to Apple.
Using it without a contract is trivial. There a dozens of stories about how to do it, but in the interest of not adding yet another iPhone story to /. I'm not linking to any.
Which United States would that be?
Sure, just keep covering that up. Very clever of you to "casually" tie that in to this silly AMD article just to throw us off.
I hear that's how the deLorean was invented.
I don't know about Sun, but in the "old days" IBM was ruthless. Although it may seem that one of Microsoft's few true inventions is FUD, even that they did not invent - they got it from IBM.
He's got plenty of dough, but he's not a billionaire. He cashed out in the pre-billionaire era.
All he did was drop the I, which is a reasonably common thing to do in casual conversation where one wants to make the statement or request feel less "selfish."
Yes, I could have done a better job of it.