Nope. I was being a smartass. I was just dazzled by the idea that an Apache server wouldn't be a worthwhile hacking target just because it might not be a good botnet member. That logic is up there with "breaking into this bank is useless - it makes an awful aquarium."
No it is not. It is a professionally admined system that is outnumbered one to millions by clients where my malware will live happily undected for a long time, and where a couple of clean-ups - that is highly likely on the Apache server -- won't affect the malware network at all.
Yeah. That Linux server wouldn't be very valuable as a long-term botnet member. About the only useful information you could get out of such a server would be the database system it's connected to and all the credit card information it processes - hardly even worth bothering with.
Seriously: did you think about that at all before posting, or did you just click Submit and hope for the best?
Still, I hate to say this, but the burden of protecting YOUR copyrights and trademarks is up to you. You can't expect the government to do this for you.
You're factually wrong. The U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency is specifically responsible for policing the importing of counterfeit goods and "intellectual property theft".
We've been over this. Torvalds can't change the kernel to GPLv3, because the copyright is owned by a thousand different contributors.
But he and a few other key devs could license their own personal contributions as GPLv3. Have fun running or maintaining a Linux kernel with no code from Linus, Alan, Con, etc.
However, there is a sense in which the fact that we have such mainstream tolerance of religion and religious ideas, and the fact that they're seen as off-limits to criticism, leads to exactly the sort of environment in which we can even ask whether or not parents are allowed to deny their children life-saving medical care because they'd rather pray.
On that, I'll agree completely. I hate the word "sensitive". I respect everyone's opinions on things that only affect themselves. You like liver and onions? I think it's gross, but have at. But when someone's opinions cross the line into making another person's life worse - or shorter - then I reserve the right to tell them that their ideas are stupid. Fred Phelps and Jenny McCarthy are sociopaths who don't care which lives they harm, and I have no respect or sensitivity for their harmful opinions.
I've told this story before, but I'll enthrall (or bore) you with it again. The company I work for based a good chunk of its IT infrastructure on Visual FoxPro. OK, it's not my first choice either, but it was a perfectly reasonable decision at the time the project launched and it really helped the company build its business. While not my cup of tea, it got the job done. Then MS bought FoxPro, and users rejoiced. Yay! It has major corporate support now!
Except MS let it die. They've explicitly stated that it will never be a.NET language and have officially abandoned it to CodePlex under its own custom Shared Source license variant.
At least there was an upgrade path for VB. It might not've been fun, but at least you had the option of migrating your pre-existing systems into something new and supported. Not so for us; we're throwing the whole thing away and starting over. We're using PostgreSQL for the backend and a mix of Python (my stuff) and C# (another dev's stuff; against my recommendations) for the frontend. If PostgreSQL goes away tomorrow, it'll be trivial to port our apps to another database. In the case of my Python stuff, that'd be a matter of changing the SQLAlchemy connection strings and running unit tests. I have infinitely more faith in Python's continued existence than I do in any specific proprietary MS language.
So in what bizarre situation is a closed MS "solution" cheaper? The initial installation might cost less if an installation wizard is many hours faster at getting it up and running than I could make the F/OSS equivalent work, but down the road? There's no way in hell. We still have Perl software written in the 90s running without problems on our multi-core 64-bit servers, and it'll still be cranking away a decade from now, unchanged, if we need it to be. I have no reasonable expectation that any given MS service will be that maintenance-free.
I feel bad for that 1M, kind of, but any change you make will shut out at least that many with setups that are broken in other ways. I bet there are more than 1M people still on Netscape 4, but I'll be darned if I'll take them into account when planning service or network upgrades.
Never mind that merely by calling yourself "Christian", you lend credibility to these fuckwits.
I bet you, I, and Fred Phelps have a lot more in common than we don't. I'm an American, and I like it here. I like hamburgers and apple pie. My family immigrated from Europe. I think republican democracy is a good idea. The mutual cultural background I share with Phelps should not in any way be construed as endorsing him, condoning him, or giving him credibility.
That's nice. Of course, I tend to associate Internet security firms with SEO consultants, astrologers, and anyone else who makes a living off fear and ignorance.
What are we going to do with all these people. I keep hearing 'Well, the world needs ditch diggers too'. No, no it doesn not... I guess we can let them starve to death in the streets.
What do you propose: that we perpetually subsidize their obsolete, high-pollution jobs? You'd save a huge amount in the long run by paying for retraining classes to help them get good jobs in a different industry.
Those are secrets that have no existence outside of my network. Unlike IP addresses. I believe you are mistaken in equating them.
But why do you care if they're known outside your network? You have a stateful firewall that protects them from the world. Here's my printer's IPv6 address: 2001:453:da65:1:94ab:7c00:8cba:beb5. Go ahead, have fun trying to connect to it.
And what prey tell should I do for my PC ? Set a static ipv6 address to be entered into the whitelist ?
Then post your password here and/or SSH private key here. "Security through obscurity" is not remotely close to what you think it means.
How can my firewall be expected to know the difference between an address generated by my network printer that should not be seen from outside my network and one from a pc that should ?
Set your firewall policy to "default deny" and whitelist connections you specifically want to allow. This has been the correct way of building firewalls since the idea was first invented.
So now even my network printer (toaster, fridge, whatever) needs a built in firewall with guaranteed bug fixes.
Why? You don't have a firewall on your router? Again, "default deny": don't open up a rule that allows random Internet hosts to connect to your toaster.
I want to be alerted to the addition of any kit to my network and be given the choice to allow or disallow access to my resources before whatever it is starts to use the limited data allocation that is my internet connection, starts to print a copy of wikipedia or otherwise use resources that cost me time or money.
Use whatever mechanism you're using right now, today, that alerts you when a new device connects to your network.
...write my state's Public Service Commission, which gets to tell utilities that they're in breach of contract and need to lock their doors, effective noon today. Why would you ever go through all that trouble yourself when your taxes have already bought you an agency designed to take care of it? I can only speak personally for a couple of states, but in my experience (and from stories my friends elsewhere have told me), the conversation usually goes like this:
Me: I'm having trouble with a telco in this state.
PSC: Ooh! Ooh! Which one? We hate telcos! Give us an excuse!
Me: [explains problem]
PSC: Hey, telco, we'd like you to resolve this in our citizen's favor.
Telco: That might take a while.
PSC: We understand. Close of business tomorrow will be fine. That is, of course, if you don't want us to shut you down the next day.
Telco: Thank you sir, may I have another?
And who cares about sniping anyway? "Oh, no! I was aiming for the first pirate, but accidentally drilled a hole in the guy next to him. We are doomed!" If they haven't actually boarded your ship and taken hostages yet, I see no moral or logistical problem in opening up a chain gun on them.
Option one: convert a file one time on a host computer with vastly more processing power and hooked into line current, then watch it many times in its hardware acceleratable form on your iOS device.
Option two: convert it many times - once per playback - using CPU-intensive algorithms on a relatively weak, battery-powered device.
I love VLC, but the iPhone isn't a great host environment for it.
It didn't do me any good in terms of obtaining future employment, nor did reading any fiction.
Well, if it doesn't directly relate to your gainful employment, then we should excise it from the curriculum. Art? PE? History? Language? Screw them all; they don't get the floors swept.
Perhaps you should have spent more time with fiction. It might have lent you an imagination.
Parents want to worry, it's in their instincts to protect their children - if they can find no real dangers, they'll inflate anything that looks remotely threatening regardless of true risk.
Funny, but you almost exactly described a current hypothesis behind autoimmune disorders.
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Nope. I was being a smartass. I was just dazzled by the idea that an Apache server wouldn't be a worthwhile hacking target just because it might not be a good botnet member. That logic is up there with "breaking into this bank is useless - it makes an awful aquarium."
You're not much one for sarcasm, are you.
Common myth still spreading around that macs do not have viruses.
Other common myths: water is wet and the sun is bright.
No it is not. It is a professionally admined system that is outnumbered one to millions by clients where my malware will live happily undected for a long time, and where a couple of clean-ups - that is highly likely on the Apache server -- won't affect the malware network at all.
Yeah. That Linux server wouldn't be very valuable as a long-term botnet member. About the only useful information you could get out of such a server would be the database system it's connected to and all the credit card information it processes - hardly even worth bothering with.
Seriously: did you think about that at all before posting, or did you just click Submit and hope for the best?
Still, I hate to say this, but the burden of protecting YOUR copyrights and trademarks is up to you. You can't expect the government to do this for you.
You're factually wrong. The U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency is specifically responsible for policing the importing of counterfeit goods and "intellectual property theft".
We've been over this. Torvalds can't change the kernel to GPLv3, because the copyright is owned by a thousand different contributors.
But he and a few other key devs could license their own personal contributions as GPLv3. Have fun running or maintaining a Linux kernel with no code from Linus, Alan, Con, etc.
However, there is a sense in which the fact that we have such mainstream tolerance of religion and religious ideas, and the fact that they're seen as off-limits to criticism, leads to exactly the sort of environment in which we can even ask whether or not parents are allowed to deny their children life-saving medical care because they'd rather pray.
On that, I'll agree completely. I hate the word "sensitive". I respect everyone's opinions on things that only affect themselves. You like liver and onions? I think it's gross, but have at. But when someone's opinions cross the line into making another person's life worse - or shorter - then I reserve the right to tell them that their ideas are stupid. Fred Phelps and Jenny McCarthy are sociopaths who don't care which lives they harm, and I have no respect or sensitivity for their harmful opinions.
I've told this story before, but I'll enthrall (or bore) you with it again. The company I work for based a good chunk of its IT infrastructure on Visual FoxPro. OK, it's not my first choice either, but it was a perfectly reasonable decision at the time the project launched and it really helped the company build its business. While not my cup of tea, it got the job done. Then MS bought FoxPro, and users rejoiced. Yay! It has major corporate support now!
Except MS let it die. They've explicitly stated that it will never be a .NET language and have officially abandoned it to CodePlex under its own custom Shared Source license variant.
At least there was an upgrade path for VB. It might not've been fun, but at least you had the option of migrating your pre-existing systems into something new and supported. Not so for us; we're throwing the whole thing away and starting over. We're using PostgreSQL for the backend and a mix of Python (my stuff) and C# (another dev's stuff; against my recommendations) for the frontend. If PostgreSQL goes away tomorrow, it'll be trivial to port our apps to another database. In the case of my Python stuff, that'd be a matter of changing the SQLAlchemy connection strings and running unit tests. I have infinitely more faith in Python's continued existence than I do in any specific proprietary MS language.
So in what bizarre situation is a closed MS "solution" cheaper? The initial installation might cost less if an installation wizard is many hours faster at getting it up and running than I could make the F/OSS equivalent work, but down the road? There's no way in hell. We still have Perl software written in the 90s running without problems on our multi-core 64-bit servers, and it'll still be cranking away a decade from now, unchanged, if we need it to be. I have no reasonable expectation that any given MS service will be that maintenance-free.
I feel bad for that 1M, kind of, but any change you make will shut out at least that many with setups that are broken in other ways. I bet there are more than 1M people still on Netscape 4, but I'll be darned if I'll take them into account when planning service or network upgrades.
Never mind that merely by calling yourself "Christian", you lend credibility to these fuckwits.
I bet you, I, and Fred Phelps have a lot more in common than we don't. I'm an American, and I like it here. I like hamburgers and apple pie. My family immigrated from Europe. I think republican democracy is a good idea. The mutual cultural background I share with Phelps should not in any way be construed as endorsing him, condoning him, or giving him credibility.
That's nice. Of course, I tend to associate Internet security firms with SEO consultants, astrologers, and anyone else who makes a living off fear and ignorance.
What are we going to do with all these people. I keep hearing 'Well, the world needs ditch diggers too'. No, no it doesn not... I guess we can let them starve to death in the streets.
What do you propose: that we perpetually subsidize their obsolete, high-pollution jobs? You'd save a huge amount in the long run by paying for retraining classes to help them get good jobs in a different industry.
Those are secrets that have no existence outside of my network. Unlike IP addresses. I believe you are mistaken in equating them.
But why do you care if they're known outside your network? You have a stateful firewall that protects them from the world. Here's my printer's IPv6 address: 2001:453:da65:1:94ab:7c00:8cba:beb5. Go ahead, have fun trying to connect to it.
And what prey tell should I do for my PC ? Set a static ipv6 address to be entered into the whitelist ?
Yes, of course. Why wouldn't you?
Security though obscurity is no security at all.
Then post your password here and/or SSH private key here. "Security through obscurity" is not remotely close to what you think it means.
How can my firewall be expected to know the difference between an address generated by my network printer that should not be seen from outside my network and one from a pc that should ?
Set your firewall policy to "default deny" and whitelist connections you specifically want to allow. This has been the correct way of building firewalls since the idea was first invented.
So now even my network printer (toaster, fridge, whatever) needs a built in firewall with guaranteed bug fixes.
Why? You don't have a firewall on your router? Again, "default deny": don't open up a rule that allows random Internet hosts to connect to your toaster.
I want to be alerted to the addition of any kit to my network and be given the choice to allow or disallow access to my resources before whatever it is starts to use the limited data allocation that is my internet connection, starts to print a copy of wikipedia or otherwise use resources that cost me time or money.
Use whatever mechanism you're using right now, today, that alerts you when a new device connects to your network.
Still, if you could do it all over, wouldn't you skip the vaccines?
So he could be autistic and dead? What kind of bullshit logic is that?
And if there were a God of Irony, a study would be published that conclusively demonstrated that autism is caused by breast implants.
I don't know about autism, but I can think of at least one case where they seemed to cause stupidity. *
(If that dumbass can use logical fallacies, then so can I, dang it.)
You will
...write my state's Public Service Commission, which gets to tell utilities that they're in breach of contract and need to lock their doors, effective noon today. Why would you ever go through all that trouble yourself when your taxes have already bought you an agency designed to take care of it? I can only speak personally for a couple of states, but in my experience (and from stories my friends elsewhere have told me), the conversation usually goes like this:
Me: I'm having trouble with a telco in this state.
PSC: Ooh! Ooh! Which one? We hate telcos! Give us an excuse!
Me: [explains problem]
PSC: Hey, telco, we'd like you to resolve this in our citizen's favor.
Telco: That might take a while.
PSC: We understand. Close of business tomorrow will be fine. That is, of course, if you don't want us to shut you down the next day.
Telco: Thank you sir, may I have another?
And who cares about sniping anyway? "Oh, no! I was aiming for the first pirate, but accidentally drilled a hole in the guy next to him. We are doomed!" If they haven't actually boarded your ship and taken hostages yet, I see no moral or logistical problem in opening up a chain gun on them.
Option one: convert a file one time on a host computer with vastly more processing power and hooked into line current, then watch it many times in its hardware acceleratable form on your iOS device.
Option two: convert it many times - once per playback - using CPU-intensive algorithms on a relatively weak, battery-powered device.
I love VLC, but the iPhone isn't a great host environment for it.
PHP has namespaces.
syntax\\choices\\stupid->agree();
It didn't do me any good in terms of obtaining future employment, nor did reading any fiction.
Well, if it doesn't directly relate to your gainful employment, then we should excise it from the curriculum. Art? PE? History? Language? Screw them all; they don't get the floors swept.
Perhaps you should have spent more time with fiction. It might have lent you an imagination.
That was Tom, not Huck.
Parents want to worry, it's in their instincts to protect their children - if they can find no real dangers, they'll inflate anything that looks remotely threatening regardless of true risk.
Funny, but you almost exactly described a current hypothesis behind autoimmune disorders.
Statistically, it's better for you to be in the 15% than the 85%.
That's the most sociopathic thing I've heard today.
Reading Jenny McCarthy dialogue in the closed captioning something I am simply not willing to do.
Whatever they may tell you, no one looks at Jenny McCarthy for the articles.