no, there definately is a switching cost. I work at lockheed martin, and we have 3 gigantic 3090's that do nothing other than communicate with a mainframe 2000 miles away through intolerably antiquated modems. We *have* to keep using them though, because all the financials and invetory systems are on these beasts, and no one knows how to get it off. Granted, getting things off MS stuff is not nearly as hard, but 1) companies are still sensitive about old switchovers that they're still paying for, and 2) even with MS's stuff, there are costs - not the least of which is you have to have someplace to move everything to that can handle the load, which essentially means you need to double the hardware that you really need, because you have to move it on to *something*, and then what do you do with the old stuff? There are a lot of costs with switching. Its not a myth.
First, the alternate mother was a mutant. As they started to mention, she had a gene knocked out - a gene that supresses the expresion of about 1000 other genes.
Second, an X from a female will not align with an X from another female (because of the above, and other reasons). What they effectively did was make a female mouse that could make X chromosomes that behaved in the same way that X chromosomes from a male behave. To have this occur in humans, they'd have to figure out how to create a mutant human female that produced X chromosomes that behaved like the X chromosomes a male produces. They'd then have to take said X chromosomes out of her eggs, and match them with her partner's eggs, just like in this experiment. As such, this has absolutely no implications for lesbians, unless one just happens to be such a mutant already somehow (they aren't).
The research has little impact on allowing lesbians to reproduce. The process for doing that to two women, when neither is a mutant, is a wholy seperate process. In vitro fertilization is about as related to the eventual female reproduction potential as this experiement is (and this experiment is only that related simply because it *involves* IVF). This has no new implications for that eventuality.
hey, its the story I submitted a couple weeks ago, only its WRONG.
Its not testing Einstein's "general theory of relativity," his special theory, or even his favorite recipie. Its testing Frame Dragging, which is a theory derived from Einstein's theories, but that was in fact originally postulated by physicists Joseph Lense and Hans Thirring 4 years after Einstein's theory.
The signifigance of it is that it is the last major derived theory from general relativity that has yet to be proven via experiment. This particular experiment was devised back in the 40's, but never got "off the ground" (pardon the pun) until now.
Except for the fact that for Joe User in his home right now, their net connection is slower than a 10baseT. There are 10Gb nics now, which means that Joe User is already 8,000 slower than what is going into server rooms at present (assuming a broadband connect). Also ignore the fact that the speeds discussed in this article exceed the bus capability for anything on the comsumer market right now - Joe User is far from having anything 1/500 this speed for a long time. Which is fine, because he doesn't need to be able to download every movie ever made in just moments...
Not now, at least...wait a few years until the increased pipe gets filled with more interesting stuff.
sure would be nice if someone invented some sort of device that could tell you which direction north was...
I wonder if the magnetic poles could be useful for such a thing? Think a suspended iron rod would align itself or such? Interesting idea...hope amazon doesn't patent it before I can!
addendum: oops, I read "roast potatoes" as "pot roast" for some reason. So uh, yeah...cut em up, throw on some olive oil, rosemary, parsley, and...roast it. I don't do high-starch things really, but eh.
I'm sick in bed. I just read it wrong. But really - tell them why you're not going there. If you don't, they won't even know they're missing you. That, and they might not know about the advertiser anyway.
I sometimes let people know what their advertisers are doing. Almost without fail they are troubled by it if I do (I tend to only let people know when its *really* bad).
I have seen it be effective, too (the letting them know thing) - with them dropping the advertiser. YMMV. Pot Roast is pretty easy though...you just exploit and torture a sentient creature, then devour its flesh.
See...I had you until that last part. But really - don't just not go to the site again...tell them why you won't be going again. More effective.
I agree with your disagreement. I'm really getting sick of how hard it is to find mobos for higher end chips (or smp) that don't have the rediculous "ide raid" nonsense. That, and I'd rather not have all the components on the mobo, thanks.
Wish there was a really good, stable, fast mobo anymore that just gave buses and a cpu socket or 2!
Its amazing how few people are talking about this. Its also amazing that you're modded "funny."
Would just take a few people carrying a few of the suitcase (sized) versions to really disrupt things in a busy area...manhattan, for instance. This could have quite maliscious uses. Theatres? Restaurants? What makes you think that everyone that owns one has to be a nice, law-abiding person? Or are we going to restrict the ownership of such a thing to people who document where they're using it? Doesn't sound like it has been, and they say they've sold "thousands" already.
What's to stop some punk kid from getting one, and just making life miserable for large groups of people that *should* be on their cell phones? Or is the suggestion that cell phones shouldn't be allowed anywhere, at all? Because maliscious use is GOING to occur.
Thankfully, this is only a problem with T-mobile phones here in the States, which have plenty of reasons for not using them already. This just adds to the reasons.
hand's-free cell phones are not illegal generally. Its not just about being distracted - its about having only one usable hand to drive.
I know of no place where cell phones are illegal while driving, that its not ok to use hands-free. I can talk all I want with a little thingy in my ear. Its when my hands are involved that there is a problem. Kinda like when you reach for a cd...only, its continuous.
What part of what I'm saying are you either not understanding, or reading? Do you realize that it is *I* who first mentioned kWh? Those 3 letters were first used in this thread by me, not you. Above, I said a watt was a joule per second. What exactly do you think you're correcting?
And what does all this silliness have to do with the fact that it is NOT eco-friendly to leave an old computer on 24/7 as an mp3 server?
He's a language-use question for you...if over the course of a month you use 500kWh, is that not 500kWh/month? Dividing time by time? Perhaps you can open your brain a bit, stop being stubborn, accept that you know I know what I'm saying, and that math is different than english. You've admitted I'm doing the math right, but say I'm doing the english wrong. So...how would you do the english better? How does "500kWh/month" sit with you? Can you handle that? How about "500kWh per month during years divisible by 4 but not divisible by 100 unless divisible by 400" or such? What part of my math did you have problems with? A 100 watt lightbulb, left on 24/7, uses how many kWh's? Is it not ~72?
Do you have a social life? What presses you to kick a dead horse that I'm not even riding? Tell me about your mother.
read above in the thread. No one has disputed the numbers I've posted. I'm quite aware of the relation, thanks. I made a simple statement that wasn't worded poorly, didn't need correction, and resulted in completely off-topic babbling from people who obviously are incapabale of reading.
Thanks for enlighting us, AC!
Now, what does all this rediculous nonsense have to do with the fact that even at 100watts, a computer left on 24/7 (for an mp3 server, for example) uses 72 kWh a month? HOLY CRAP, can I say hour per month???? IS that Right? Obviously I don't understand the relation between hours and months!
"It's comfortable enough to be worn while sleeping. It's non-invasive."
I don't know what you're doing in bed, Mr Nasa-person, but anything that is worn around the waist, other than a female, is going to be pretty darn invasive. I don't want any part of this until you can surgically implant it into my body, and its safe from all the strange exploits I may find myself indulging in from time to time.
"there's no sense having a computer run 24/7 wasting 300+watts an hour, as an mp3 server"
Now, what are you proposing that it is you're helping him correct? How, again, am I wrong? The only thing you quoted of mine was something you said was correct. Now, tell me what you're actually correcting.
How would you correctly refer to the per hour consumption of a light bulb, measured in watts, if not the way I did? Assuming, of course, that you don't write a freaking NOVEL to explain a simple concept that everyone understood without this meaningless aside.
So no, I won't think twice. It was a pointless attempt at correcting something that wasn't wrong. I'll just keep sitting, thanks.
You're misunderstanding something. Sure, a watt is joules per second, but...have you not looked at your electric bill lately? The charge is per kilowatt/hour.
A 100 watt lightbulb, run for 1 hour, uses 100watt/hours. Run for 10 hours, it uses 1kilowatt/hour (kWh), which is precisely the unit used in figuring out most electric bills.
So no, saying its uses 300 watts per hour 24/7 is not at all incorrect. It is precisely how you pay your bill. If this is overly confusing to you, look up "kilowatt hour" on google. Or, your electric bill.
I'll grant that a 300 watt unit doesn't sustain at 300 watts, but 300 is not the peak max (unless you don't know what "peak" means). Sustaining is generally higher than 100, and even at 100 - that's 2.4kWh per day, 72kWh per average month. So...leave it on, then look at your bill. That's how much of it was eaten by your silly mp3 server. Likely a decent percentage of the bill.
I've tried explaining this to my roommate, who leaves her system on 24/7...even the monitor! I turn off the monitor all the time, and occassionally even her computer. She just likes that stupid away message to be there, collecting wasted electricity. The end of the month, I can fume all I want about how I use 1/4 the electricity, but pay 2/3 the bill, and you and she can go have fun together, not understanding what a kWh is.
No, its nothing like saying it drives 300 miles per hour per second. Its like saying you spent a second driving 300 miles per hour, which is precisely what the electric company is billing for. They want to know exactly how long you were going 300mph, and then any other speed (more precisely, they want to know what your average speed for the month was).
Thanks for trying to correct me. You can run along now;)
I agree (there's no sense having a computer run 24/7 wasting 300+watts an hour, as an mp3 server) when you can donate the system, except for one thing:
Often, it costs a terrible lot of money for the place your donating to to fix the thing up to make it usable. I've tried donating computers before, but had problems. They had had so many problems with computers needing various levels of help, it wasn't worth it.
An alternate solution is to not freaking upgrade everytime something faster comes out. I have a 4 year old laptop that works great. I don't buy Dell's and such not just because they suck, but because its hard to upgrade. When your system gets just too darn old, you can replace just a couple parts and its great again - if you have a generic box.
But yeah...stop acting like a 750Mhz system isn't enough. Its a little annoying that the S3 video in my laptop isn't well supported well anymore, but...oh well. It plays video well, I can play all the games I want to play...
There's more to being environmentally friendly than reducing trash, you know.
Another suggestion: Ask around, collect people's stuff when they're upgrading. Instead of donating a box to your local library, donate an entire working network. Put linux on them, get them all hippy happy together and set up with a few happy tools and applications, and such. Or ask them what they'd like on the systems, and explain what you can do.
But don't leave it running 24/7 in a closet somewhere. MP3 server? New systems have billion-terabyte drives nowadays. Why would we need an mp3 server anymore?
why post what you know is essentially a dupe?
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geezus. So I guess the intent is to stop the relentless hypocritical MS bashing, by starting the endless Real bashing? Is ANY of the posting in this thread going to be different than the one yesterday? "I hate real," "real sucks," "real makes you install blah blah," or whatever.
So, is the next article going to be about Sun, MS, or...? There have been a couple interesting tidbits today, but...yeesh! And no mention of the satellite going up on the 17th...not that "nerds" care about physics these days I guess. Just about bashing stuff. Ugg.
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no, there definately is a switching cost.
I work at lockheed martin, and we have 3 gigantic 3090's that do nothing other than communicate with a mainframe 2000 miles away through intolerably antiquated modems. We *have* to keep using them though, because all the financials and invetory systems are on these beasts, and no one knows how to get it off.
Granted, getting things off MS stuff is not nearly as hard, but 1) companies are still sensitive about old switchovers that they're still paying for, and 2) even with MS's stuff, there are costs - not the least of which is you have to have someplace to move everything to that can handle the load, which essentially means you need to double the hardware that you really need, because you have to move it on to *something*, and then what do you do with the old stuff?
There are a lot of costs with switching. Its not a myth.
First, the alternate mother was a mutant. As they started to mention, she had a gene knocked out - a gene that supresses the expresion of about 1000 other genes.
Second, an X from a female will not align with an X from another female (because of the above, and other reasons). What they effectively did was make a female mouse that could make X chromosomes that behaved in the same way that X chromosomes from a male behave.
To have this occur in humans, they'd have to figure out how to create a mutant human female that produced X chromosomes that behaved like the X chromosomes a male produces. They'd then have to take said X chromosomes out of her eggs, and match them with her partner's eggs, just like in this experiment. As such, this has absolutely no implications for lesbians, unless one just happens to be such a mutant already somehow (they aren't).
The research has little impact on allowing lesbians to reproduce. The process for doing that to two women, when neither is a mutant, is a wholy seperate process. In vitro fertilization is about as related to the eventual female reproduction potential as this experiement is (and this experiment is only that related simply because it *involves* IVF). This has no new implications for that eventuality.
chromosomal recombination, that's who.
omfg, your post should be +10 funny. I only laugh once a week on slashdot, and 90% of those are laughing *at* the person. Bravo man, bravo.
either the submitter didn't know, or he DID know and isn't actually the owner of said small server.
yeah, I saw that and thought about it for a few moments. There are definately times when I hate dealing with IT nonsense.
oh yeah, and they drink water to hydrate themselves. He should stop doing that too.
Talk about a completely broken train of thought...where the heck is the logic in this?
Its not testing Einstein's "general theory of relativity," his special theory, or even his favorite recipie. Its testing Frame Dragging, which is a theory derived from Einstein's theories, but that was in fact originally postulated by physicists Joseph Lense and Hans Thirring 4 years after Einstein's theory.
The signifigance of it is that it is the last major derived theory from general relativity that has yet to be proven via experiment. This particular experiment was devised back in the 40's, but never got "off the ground" (pardon the pun) until now.
Except for the fact that for Joe User in his home right now, their net connection is slower than a 10baseT. There are 10Gb nics now, which means that Joe User is already 8,000 slower than what is going into server rooms at present (assuming a broadband connect). Also ignore the fact that the speeds discussed in this article exceed the bus capability for anything on the comsumer market right now - Joe User is far from having anything 1/500 this speed for a long time. Which is fine, because he doesn't need to be able to download every movie ever made in just moments...
Not now, at least...wait a few years until the increased pipe gets filled with more interesting stuff.
I wonder if the magnetic poles could be useful for such a thing? Think a suspended iron rod would align itself or such? Interesting idea...hope amazon doesn't patent it before I can!
yeah. people with livejournals are EEEEVIIIL. That, and it was fairly obvious that I was being silly.
I'm sick in bed. I just read it wrong. But really - tell them why you're not going there. If you don't, they won't even know they're missing you. That, and they might not know about the advertiser anyway.
I have seen it be effective, too (the letting them know thing) - with them dropping the advertiser. YMMV. Pot Roast is pretty easy though...you just exploit and torture a sentient creature, then devour its flesh.
See...I had you until that last part. But really - don't just not go to the site again...tell them why you won't be going again. More effective.
Wish there was a really good, stable, fast mobo anymore that just gave buses and a cpu socket or 2!
I drive a standard as well, but you can quickly move from the shift to the wheel.
Would just take a few people carrying a few of the suitcase (sized) versions to really disrupt things in a busy area...manhattan, for instance. This could have quite maliscious uses. Theatres? Restaurants? What makes you think that everyone that owns one has to be a nice, law-abiding person? Or are we going to restrict the ownership of such a thing to people who document where they're using it? Doesn't sound like it has been, and they say they've sold "thousands" already.
What's to stop some punk kid from getting one, and just making life miserable for large groups of people that *should* be on their cell phones? Or is the suggestion that cell phones shouldn't be allowed anywhere, at all? Because maliscious use is GOING to occur.
Thankfully, this is only a problem with T-mobile phones here in the States, which have plenty of reasons for not using them already. This just adds to the reasons.
I know of no place where cell phones are illegal while driving, that its not ok to use hands-free. I can talk all I want with a little thingy in my ear. Its when my hands are involved that there is a problem. Kinda like when you reach for a cd...only, its continuous.
And what does all this silliness have to do with the fact that it is NOT eco-friendly to leave an old computer on 24/7 as an mp3 server?
He's a language-use question for you...if over the course of a month you use 500kWh, is that not 500kWh/month? Dividing time by time? Perhaps you can open your brain a bit, stop being stubborn, accept that you know I know what I'm saying, and that math is different than english. You've admitted I'm doing the math right, but say I'm doing the english wrong. So...how would you do the english better? How does "500kWh/month" sit with you? Can you handle that? How about "500kWh per month during years divisible by 4 but not divisible by 100 unless divisible by 400" or such? What part of my math did you have problems with? A 100 watt lightbulb, left on 24/7, uses how many kWh's? Is it not ~72?
Do you have a social life? What presses you to kick a dead horse that I'm not even riding? Tell me about your mother.
Thanks for enlighting us, AC!
Now, what does all this rediculous nonsense have to do with the fact that even at 100watts, a computer left on 24/7 (for an mp3 server, for example) uses 72 kWh a month? HOLY CRAP, can I say hour per month???? IS that Right? Obviously I don't understand the relation between hours and months!
That, or its *you* that's the moron.
I don't know what you're doing in bed, Mr Nasa-person, but anything that is worn around the waist, other than a female, is going to be pretty darn invasive. I don't want any part of this until you can surgically implant it into my body, and its safe from all the strange exploits I may find myself indulging in from time to time.
Ahem.
"there's no sense having a computer run 24/7 wasting 300+watts an hour, as an mp3 server"
Now, what are you proposing that it is you're helping him correct? How, again, am I wrong? The only thing you quoted of mine was something you said was correct. Now, tell me what you're actually correcting.
How would you correctly refer to the per hour consumption of a light bulb, measured in watts, if not the way I did? Assuming, of course, that you don't write a freaking NOVEL to explain a simple concept that everyone understood without this meaningless aside.
So no, I won't think twice. It was a pointless attempt at correcting something that wasn't wrong. I'll just keep sitting, thanks.
certainly. That was sortof implied in my post I thought, but yeah. Were you just trying to find a segue for your tax comment?
A 100 watt lightbulb, run for 1 hour, uses 100watt/hours. Run for 10 hours, it uses 1kilowatt/hour (kWh), which is precisely the unit used in figuring out most electric bills.
So no, saying its uses 300 watts per hour 24/7 is not at all incorrect. It is precisely how you pay your bill. If this is overly confusing to you, look up "kilowatt hour" on google. Or, your electric bill.
I'll grant that a 300 watt unit doesn't sustain at 300 watts, but 300 is not the peak max (unless you don't know what "peak" means). Sustaining is generally higher than 100, and even at 100 - that's 2.4kWh per day, 72kWh per average month. So...leave it on, then look at your bill. That's how much of it was eaten by your silly mp3 server. Likely a decent percentage of the bill.
I've tried explaining this to my roommate, who leaves her system on 24/7...even the monitor! I turn off the monitor all the time, and occassionally even her computer. She just likes that stupid away message to be there, collecting wasted electricity. The end of the month, I can fume all I want about how I use 1/4 the electricity, but pay 2/3 the bill, and you and she can go have fun together, not understanding what a kWh is.
No, its nothing like saying it drives 300 miles per hour per second. Its like saying you spent a second driving 300 miles per hour, which is precisely what the electric company is billing for. They want to know exactly how long you were going 300mph, and then any other speed (more precisely, they want to know what your average speed for the month was).
Thanks for trying to correct me. You can run along now ;)
Often, it costs a terrible lot of money for the place your donating to to fix the thing up to make it usable. I've tried donating computers before, but had problems. They had had so many problems with computers needing various levels of help, it wasn't worth it.
An alternate solution is to not freaking upgrade everytime something faster comes out. I have a 4 year old laptop that works great. I don't buy Dell's and such not just because they suck, but because its hard to upgrade. When your system gets just too darn old, you can replace just a couple parts and its great again - if you have a generic box.
But yeah...stop acting like a 750Mhz system isn't enough. Its a little annoying that the S3 video in my laptop isn't well supported well anymore, but...oh well. It plays video well, I can play all the games I want to play...
There's more to being environmentally friendly than reducing trash, you know.
Another suggestion: Ask around, collect people's stuff when they're upgrading. Instead of donating a box to your local library, donate an entire working network. Put linux on them, get them all hippy happy together and set up with a few happy tools and applications, and such. Or ask them what they'd like on the systems, and explain what you can do.
But don't leave it running 24/7 in a closet somewhere. MP3 server? New systems have billion-terabyte drives nowadays. Why would we need an mp3 server anymore?
So, is the next article going to be about Sun, MS, or...? There have been a couple interesting tidbits today, but...yeesh! And no mention of the satellite going up on the 17th...not that "nerds" care about physics these days I guess. Just about bashing stuff. Ugg.