No, the other racists were ashamed of me. They found out that I don't actually think blacks are lazy. Since I've offered to apologize to anyone who calls my cellphone at 315-323-1241, they ripped up my membership card and kicked me out. -russ
http://www.ticket2ridegame.com, by Days of Wonder. We've been playing it at least once a day for the past month. Haven't worn it out from overuse yet. -russ
to call it the MIT license is misleading because MIT uses many licenses.
Why is the FSF so confused about the difference between the name of a thing and the thing? The "MIT License" is the license under which X11 is licensed. It's not the only license that MIT uses, but it's the only license CALLED the MIT license. No confusion is present anywhere except at the FSF. The official party line of the FSF is that it's not free software if you don't have "free" in the name; thus "open source" is antagonistic to the free software movement because "free" is absent. Yet the reality is that open source software must come with all the same freedoms that free software comes with. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
Surely there's a philosopher at the FSF who can clear up this confusion for them. -russ
Surely you jest. A corporate relations firm would have a paid staff. We have none. A corporate relations firm would have no need for hackers. We have always been long on hackers. In fact, even our first general counsel was originally a hacker. -russ
You fail logic 101. "Social interaction is key to developing normal social relations" is true. However, you add a spurious requirement that that interaction must be with kids their own age.
Also, anecdotal evidence is no more likely to be correct than is zero evidence. The most you can say about anecdotal evidence is "there exists one which". Unfortunately, may people conclude more than that, so for them, zero evidence would have been better.
Homeschooled kids aren't locked in a box where "social interaction" is called "talking in class." Yes, homeschooled kids can be shut off from social interaction. Government schooled kids can also be shut off from social interaction. Mere physical presence doesn't ensure that you'll have normal social relations with people. What if they hate you, and you kill yourself? It happens, you know.
Homeschooled kids, at least in my experience, tend to volunteer, work, and study in a wide variety of circumstances than government schooled kids. -russ
If you can not adhere to the regulations of said business place than DON'T GO
They claim that they have no such regulation; that instead they are being forced to ask for identification by a secret law. If it was just the business's rules, then one of the businesses wouldn't have that rule. Instead, they all have the rule, so it is clearly not their rule. It's a secret law. -russ
If I'm getting on an airplane, I feel better that everyone has to show an ID.
True! You do feel better! Unfortunately, you are no safer, but everyone has less privacy. Is the loss of their privacy worth happy feelings on your part? Perhaps you should take happy pills instead? That way, you'll still be happy, and other people will still have their privacy. -russ
Yes, yes, and yes. These are just my personal opinions, however. RMS has his own opinion; starting with his assertion that he defines what is free software and what is not. -russ
No, I don't control the words in your mouth. Once you utter them, though, they become a public representation. If you say that your software is "open source", people are likely to believe you. They will then assume that your software license complies with the Open Source Definition, and will copy it freely. If your software is not Open Source, who suffers from using that term? The rest of the world? Or you? -russ
Hehe. At least somebody got the joke. One problem with your plan: Peter and I are both pacifists. We're much more likely to sit down and talk about it to see if we actually have a problem before resorting to violence. -russ
Yes, you are correct. There's a lot more to achieving the desired result with an open source project than simply choosing an open source license. We need a white paper which addresses that topic which I'm well-positioned to write. -russ
You're making my point for me. Microsoft has to limit its resources. We don't. People work on whatever they find interesting, whereas Microsoft has to work on whatever is profitable.
OSS needs to become more than a free carbon-copy of popular products
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No, the other racists were ashamed of me. They found out that I don't actually think blacks are lazy. Since I've offered to apologize to anyone who calls my cellphone at 315-323-1241, they ripped up my membership card and kicked me out.
-russ
Email.
For what it's worth, I signed the petition also, and the sponsor withdrew his accusation of racism.
-russ
A Red Hat guy running OSI
I don't look at it that way at all. It's more like "The creator of g++ is heading OSI".
-russ
http://www.ticket2ridegame.com, by Days of Wonder. We've been playing it at least once a day for the past month. Haven't worn it out from overuse yet.
-russ
to call it the MIT license is misleading because MIT uses many licenses.
Why is the FSF so confused about the difference between the name of a thing and the thing? The "MIT License" is the license under which X11 is licensed. It's not the only license that MIT uses, but it's the only license CALLED the MIT license. No confusion is present anywhere except at the FSF. The official party line of the FSF is that it's not free software if you don't have "free" in the name; thus "open source" is antagonistic to the free software movement because "free" is absent. Yet the reality is that open source software must come with all the same freedoms that free software comes with. A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.
Surely there's a philosopher at the FSF who can clear up this confusion for them.
-russ
OSI which is just a corporate relations firm
Surely you jest. A corporate relations firm would have a paid staff. We have none. A corporate relations firm would have no need for hackers. We have always been long on hackers. In fact, even our first general counsel was originally a hacker.
-russ
You fail logic 101. "Social interaction is key to developing normal social relations" is true. However, you add a spurious requirement that that interaction must be with kids their own age.
Also, anecdotal evidence is no more likely to be correct than is zero evidence. The most you can say about anecdotal evidence is "there exists one which". Unfortunately, may people conclude more than that, so for them, zero evidence would have been better.
Homeschooled kids aren't locked in a box where "social interaction" is called "talking in class." Yes, homeschooled kids can be shut off from social interaction. Government schooled kids can also be shut off from social interaction. Mere physical presence doesn't ensure that you'll have normal social relations with people. What if they hate you, and you kill yourself? It happens, you know.
Homeschooled kids, at least in my experience, tend to volunteer, work, and study in a wide variety of circumstances than government schooled kids.
-russ
There are fundamental differences.
Is aqua blue?
-russ
If you can not adhere to the regulations of said business place than DON'T GO
They claim that they have no such regulation; that instead they are being forced to ask for identification by a secret law. If it was just the business's rules, then one of the businesses wouldn't have that rule. Instead, they all have the rule, so it is clearly not their rule. It's a secret law.
-russ
As you admit, you've based your conclusions on a too-small sample size. At least you're honest about being wrong.
-russ
If I'm getting on an airplane, I feel better that everyone has to show an ID.
True! You do feel better! Unfortunately, you are no safer, but everyone has less privacy. Is the loss of their privacy worth happy feelings on your part? Perhaps you should take happy pills instead? That way, you'll still be happy, and other people will still have their privacy.
-russ
Gilmore's whole assertion rests on the claim that there is, in fact, a secret law requiring a person to show ID to fly.
Uhhhh, you should take your lead helmet off. The government acknowledges that there is a secret law requiring a person to show ID to fly.
-russ
Hell, no! Jef wouldn't have a confirmation dialog. He would make sure that you didn't have to answer it in the first place.
-russ
Yeah, and he never finished his ZUI design. This sucks. Anybody know how to communicate beyond the grave?
-russ
If learning from library and Internet is so good, why are schools still here?
Because everyone is forced to pay for school even though it doesn't meet everyone's needs.
-russ
Homeschooling, for those who can manage it, is far superior to a government high school education.
-russ
Whatever happened to learning for learning's sake?
High school is teaching for teaching's sake.
-russ
Yes, yes, and yes. These are just my personal opinions, however. RMS has his own opinion; starting with his assertion that he defines what is free software and what is not.
-russ
No, I don't control the words in your mouth. Once you utter them, though, they become a public representation. If you say that your software is "open source", people are likely to believe you. They will then assume that your software license complies with the Open Source Definition, and will copy it freely. If your software is not Open Source, who suffers from using that term? The rest of the world? Or you?
-russ
I had a discussion with Martin Fink about this very issue Thursday. We resolved nothing but will continue the discussion.
-russ
That doesn't change whether my license, or theirs, is open source.
Well, actually, it does, but who am I to say that?
-russ
Hehe. At least somebody got the joke. One problem with your plan: Peter and I are both pacifists. We're much more likely to sit down and talk about it to see if we actually have a problem before resorting to violence.
-russ
Yes, you are correct. There's a lot more to achieving the desired result with an open source project than simply choosing an open source license. We need a white paper which addresses that topic which I'm well-positioned to write.
-russ
if they were staying on top of it.
You're making my point for me. Microsoft has to limit its resources. We don't. People work on whatever they find interesting, whereas Microsoft has to work on whatever is profitable.
OSS needs to become more than a free carbon-copy of popular products
So does Microsoft!
-russ