How is it bigotry to suggest that American hospitals should be used for the Americans who pay for them?
You don't get out much, do you? I'd suggest that if you've not yet travelled outside the country and became ill or broke a leg (and then discovered how most industrialised countries distribute health care), you talk to the average Canadian or European visitor who came to the US and did the same.
When you're done comparing notes, chances are high that you'll find yourself enlightened, embarrassed, or both.
If I broke my leg in Canada or Europe, then I would pay the bill and submit it for reimbursement to my American insurance company, to whom I pay premiums every month.
'cause, ya know, I have traveled outside this country and done exactly that.
I gotta agree. While the MOVIES generated from the original series dealt pretty heavily with Klingons, the actual TV series didn't go much into it.
If memory serves, the Klingons were featured in these episodes:
Errand of Mercy - John Colicos, baby!
Friday's Child
The Trouble With Tribbles
A Private Little War
Day of the Dove
In addition, the appeared periphrially in "Elaan of Troyius" and "The Savage Curtain" (I don't think the Kahless in that episode even spoke).
So, 5 major appearances in 79 eps, plus a couple small mentions.
And TBH, the Klingons of the original TV series were pretty uninteresting IMHO.
They were certainly one-note, though some of the episodes listed above used them to good effect. There certainly was not the kind of cultural exploration we saw in later series, that's for sure.
BSD is one of those things that I've been interested in doing, especially early on. It is arguably more secure than Linux, is definitely older and potentially more secure.
OpenBSD is - not BSD in general.
2) Although they had similar backgrounds and technologies, the differences were enough that it was almost a complete re-learn. RPM didn't work. Init was totally different. Commands such as ps, at, etc. had different options.
You name three things that one would expect to be different, even without installing OpenBSD:
BSD does not use the RedHat Package Manager. Now there's a shock.
rc.X-style init vs. BSD init is one of the archetypal differences between BSD and SysV systems...so what did you expect?
GNU vs. non-GNU utilities have different arguments. Again...why the surprise? I suppose if Linux is the only Unix you've ever used, then perhaps you think the whole world works in a GNUish way. AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, and dozens of others have long had their quirks.
I guess I don't see why your experience surprised you so much. If you're going to switch Unices, particularly from a (mostly) SysV-based system like Linux to a near-purely BSD-based system like OpenBSD, you should expect that some things are going to be different. It's one thing to say "hey, I tried OpenBSD, found that security is indeed the inverse of convenience, and decided I liked Linux better because it was more familiar to me". But saying that you were surprised to find that RPM didn't work leaves you vulnerable to "well, duh" comments. Like this one;-)
The building I live in was erected in the 1960's and doesn't have great service for Verizon or AT&T
Does one really have anything to do with the other? I imagine a building built in 1890 next to a cell tower would have great service, while one built in 2009 in the Badlands of North Dakota would not.
Am I missing something? Did 1960s construction methods introduce Faraday Cages or something?
Not only would your exhaust be free Oxygen and water vapor, but you would CLEAN the air as you drove through it... because if the way that Hydrogen burns.
So you're saying we could put tons of excess oxygen and water vapor into the atmosphere?
Nazi Germany fed its war machine on 100% synthetic fuel - oil derived from coal. Keep in mind that what's expedient in war may not be practical or economical in peacetime, nor did the Nazis likely worry much about the environmental consequences.
I'm genuinely curious why you would think that. Oracle is a software company. I suspect that Sun's hardware business will be the first thing Oracle jettisons.
Oracle has a high-end database machine which is made by HP. I really don't see what owning SPARC servers (not a growing market), x86 servers (high effort, low return), or tape systems (StorageTek) gives them.
A few thousand highly intelligent and influential people who make billions of dollars based on decisions on where to move the industry think otherwise.
Shit, you could say the same thing about any given U.S. presidential administration and I don't think anyone thinks any of them were right.
ESR was giving him a run for it for a while, until he openly supported GWB.
One has zero to do with the other.
I can't think of anyone else in the last ~40 years (the timeline of Unix) that compares with RMS as "ideological leader of the free software movement".
"USPS loses my stuff every day, but UPS is perfect"
"I used to work for UPS and I would never ship with them"
"my brother works for FedEx and HE says use USPS"
"Over here in $COUNTRY our stuff works fine"
"Oh yeah, I visited $COUNTRY and my postcard to my mother never made it back home and I had to pay two euros to send it"
Etcetera. Look, you open up a public forum and you're going to hear horror stories about each major carrier and stories of wonderful service about each major carrier. Because it's all just a bunch of random personal anecdotes, it doesn't mean anything.
Do a statistically-valid survey of a significant percentage of each major carrier's customers and get back to me.
I find it interesting that the Oracle employee DID NOT refute the line:
Have you ever tried to install Oracle?
So you must concur that its fucking hell to install?
If you think Oracle is hard to install, then I would stay out of enterprise-sized gigs. I can think of a half-dozen products that cost a similar amount of money that are truly hell to install. Oracle is cake to install. Yes, I've installed numerous Oracle products and I've never had a significant issue installing them.
True, it's not 'apt-get oracle' but if you read the docs, they walk you through it, and I have had zero problems on several different flavors of Unix and Windows installing Oracle DBs and other products. Heck, I don't know if I even read the docs...what is so difficult about download, untar,./runInstaller? Yes, you have to tweak kernel settings, set up the right owner and groups, read up on the Oracle Flexible Architecture so you can design your filesystems the right way...face it, you're installing software that is often the centerpiece of an enterprise, so you have to be willing to invest a little time in it. SAP ain't exactly "run setup.exe" either.
The original poster is spot on. Human's can't predict next year, much less 11 years from now.
Why, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard a confidant prediction of what the world is going to be like in 10 years, I'd be living in a cashless society.
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Well, in that case, the problem seems to be you. Have you considered that possibly you are just a humorless twit?
More likely, the memes you cherish just aren't that funny.
Oh look, another In Soviet Russia joke. More hot grits. Another set of Profit!!! steps. Hey, there's that same Beowulf cluster joke again.
You're right, the problem is that the humor is all too rich for us.
How is it bigotry to suggest that American hospitals should be used for the Americans who pay for them?
You don't get out much, do you? I'd suggest that if you've not yet travelled outside the country and became ill or broke a leg (and then discovered how most industrialised countries distribute health care), you talk to the average Canadian or European visitor who came to the US and did the same.
When you're done comparing notes, chances are high that you'll find yourself enlightened, embarrassed, or both.
If I broke my leg in Canada or Europe, then I would pay the bill and submit it for reimbursement to my American insurance company, to whom I pay premiums every month.
'cause, ya know, I have traveled outside this country and done exactly that.
Case in point. Thought it was supposed to be 2010? Now it's 2011.
IPv4 addresses won't magically be exhausted one night. They'll just start getting more expensive.
I gotta agree. While the MOVIES generated from the original series dealt pretty heavily with Klingons, the actual TV series didn't go much into it.
If memory serves, the Klingons were featured in these episodes:
In addition, the appeared periphrially in "Elaan of Troyius" and "The Savage Curtain" (I don't think the Kahless in that episode even spoke).
So, 5 major appearances in 79 eps, plus a couple small mentions.
And TBH, the Klingons of the original TV series were pretty uninteresting IMHO.
They were certainly one-note, though some of the episodes listed above used them to good effect. There certainly was not the kind of cultural exploration we saw in later series, that's for sure.
BSD is one of those things that I've been interested in doing, especially early on. It is arguably more secure than Linux, is definitely older and potentially more secure.
OpenBSD is - not BSD in general.
2) Although they had similar backgrounds and technologies, the differences were enough that it was almost a complete re-learn. RPM didn't work. Init was totally different. Commands such as ps, at, etc. had different options.
You name three things that one would expect to be different, even without installing OpenBSD:
I guess I don't see why your experience surprised you so much. If you're going to switch Unices, particularly from a (mostly) SysV-based system like Linux to a near-purely BSD-based system like OpenBSD, you should expect that some things are going to be different. It's one thing to say "hey, I tried OpenBSD, found that security is indeed the inverse of convenience, and decided I liked Linux better because it was more familiar to me". But saying that you were surprised to find that RPM didn't work leaves you vulnerable to "well, duh" comments. Like this one ;-)
The building I live in was erected in the 1960's and doesn't have great service for Verizon or AT&T
Does one really have anything to do with the other? I imagine a building built in 1890 next to a cell tower would have great service, while one built in 2009 in the Badlands of North Dakota would not.
Am I missing something? Did 1960s construction methods introduce Faraday Cages or something?
Agreed. As a site developer, I will SWEAR by Firebug.
OK. Please do so.
Not only would your exhaust be free Oxygen and water vapor, but you would CLEAN the air as you drove through it... because if the way that Hydrogen burns.
So you're saying we could put tons of excess oxygen and water vapor into the atmosphere?
What could go wrong...
Yes, synthetic fuel is currently possible.
Nazi Germany fed its war machine on 100% synthetic fuel - oil derived from coal. Keep in mind that what's expedient in war may not be practical or economical in peacetime, nor did the Nazis likely worry much about the environmental consequences.
Stop preaching to "the third-world countries" like they're buncha idiots, and maybe they might listen to your advice they didn't ask for.
If they weren't a "buncha idiots," they wouldn't be third world...right?
Take precautions, Bolivia, develop standards now! Don't squander your resources!
LOL. Dude, you're talking about a country that practically invented the phrase "third world banana republic".
I'm sorry, you were saying?
HP and Oracle came out with the Exadata storage server. That's not a "high-end database machine".
No, but this is.
Finally, they're under the control of a management hierarchy that doesn't consistently shoot itself in the foot!
True, Oracle has better aim...they generally shoot their customers in the foot.
Oracle needs Sun and their hardware to survive.
I'm genuinely curious why you would think that. Oracle is a software company. I suspect that Sun's hardware business will be the first thing Oracle jettisons.
Oracle has a high-end database machine which is made by HP. I really don't see what owning SPARC servers (not a growing market), x86 servers (high effort, low return), or tape systems (StorageTek) gives them.
A few thousand highly intelligent and influential people who make billions of dollars based on decisions on where to move the industry think otherwise.
Shit, you could say the same thing about any given U.S. presidential administration and I don't think anyone thinks any of them were right.
ESR was giving him a run for it for a while, until he openly supported GWB.
One has zero to do with the other.
I can't think of anyone else in the last ~40 years (the timeline of Unix) that compares with RMS as "ideological leader of the free software movement".
...you can't use it when you don't have an internet connection. Why doesn't anyone think about this?
Because companies that use these services often have redundant internet connections?
Overall, RMS has become the ideological leader of the free software movement.
Has become? When was he not?
How about making everything in the world an opt-in by default?
For example, I don't recall announcing that I want telemarketers to call me, so why should I have to opt-out?
Look, these threads are the same every time:
Etcetera. Look, you open up a public forum and you're going to hear horror stories about each major carrier and stories of wonderful service about each major carrier. Because it's all just a bunch of random personal anecdotes, it doesn't mean anything.
Do a statistically-valid survey of a significant percentage of each major carrier's customers and get back to me.
I find it interesting that the Oracle employee DID NOT refute the line: Have you ever tried to install Oracle? So you must concur that its fucking hell to install?
If you think Oracle is hard to install, then I would stay out of enterprise-sized gigs. I can think of a half-dozen products that cost a similar amount of money that are truly hell to install. Oracle is cake to install. Yes, I've installed numerous Oracle products and I've never had a significant issue installing them.
True, it's not 'apt-get oracle' but if you read the docs, they walk you through it, and I have had zero problems on several different flavors of Unix and Windows installing Oracle DBs and other products. Heck, I don't know if I even read the docs...what is so difficult about download, untar, ./runInstaller? Yes, you have to tweak kernel settings, set up the right owner and groups, read up on the Oracle Flexible Architecture so you can design your filesystems the right way...face it, you're installing software that is often the centerpiece of an enterprise, so you have to be willing to invest a little time in it. SAP ain't exactly "run setup.exe" either.
BSD and Solaris at least have a common ancestry, while Linux isn't related to anything else.
No, they don't. SunOS was BSD-based. Solaris is based on Sys V AT&T Unix. Solaris couldn't be further from BSD.
Windows only!
Really not surprising, since you're replying to a post about a "Windows comics reader"...
Right after the paperless office is perfected.
Umm, whatever.
The original poster is spot on. Human's can't predict next year, much less 11 years from now.
Why, if I had a nickel for every time I've heard a confidant prediction of what the world is going to be like in 10 years, I'd be living in a cashless society.