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Yahoo Pulls the Plug On GeoCities

Mike writes "It's official: Yahoo is pulling the plug, and GeoCities is dead. GeoCities had suffered a long and drawn-out battle with its health over the past decade. An antiquated service model and outdated technology are widely blamed for the struggle. An official cause of death, however, has yet to be determined. Awful, eye-punishing graphics, lack of relevancy, and 'lowest-common-denominator design' are believed to have contributed to its demise. GeoCities was 15 years old." There is doubtless a lot of funny and informative stuff on there that's worth saving (not just Jesux, which pudge has now migrated). If some of it belongs to you, perhaps you should move it sometime in the next few months. Update: 04/24 18:10 GMT by T : And if you know some GeoCities page owners who aren't especially computer savvy, you could point out to them how easy it is to slurp down their pages for re-hosting elsewhere.

427 comments

  1. RIP by daveime · · Score: 5, Funny

    RIP Geocities, the Friendster of the 90's generation.

    1. Re:RIP by plover · · Score: 5, Insightful

      After reminiscing about the gaudiness of some of those crappy old pages, I'd have to say they were more like the MySpace of the '90s.

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    2. Re:RIP by Kugrian · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I'd agree with the awful .gif's and styles, but they had a lot more going for them than myspace.

      Geocities had a lot of content. A huge amount of useful information. Especially the pre-Yahoo stuff. Many times over the last decade I've ended up on a Geocities website when researching particular subjects (sorry - can't give any examples, but more than a couple dozen times when looking at some obscure stuff).

      This is sad, but bound to happen. For a long while Geocities was the only place hobbyists could spew their knowledge. Now it's all over the place. Hopefully the internet archive can hold on to some of those soon-to-be lost gems.

    3. Re:RIP by timothy · · Score: 1

      Hey, that's what *I* said! ;)

      timothy

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    4. Re:RIP by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yes, let us all take a moment to remember the days of Geocities,Angelfire, hooking up to the net with Earthlink or AOHell dialup, and of course the evil plague that spread across the net at that time, I speak of course of all the dumbasses that put comet cursor crap all over their Geocities and Angelfire web pages, which always felt like 3 out of four.

      you would spend 10 minutes dealing with that annoying screech as the dialup hooked up and then would go to find out when your favorite band would be coming to town or your favorite sci fi writer would have out their new book by visiting the fansites, when all of a sudden, and without warning at all, it was "GAAAK! Somebody just turned my cursor into a butterfly crapping fairy dust and dragging a pocket watch hooked to it ass! And my PC is now slower than a 386 running Win95!"

      Ah yes, those were the days. Malware wasn't all over the place because that damned comet cursor made your PC too damned slow to do anything with, and Earthlink and AOHell would toss you at random intervals so making a spambot was pretty pointless. Now of course we have different kinds of evil, like Myspace pages designed in the "OMG Ponies!" look that can blind a man at 30 yards as well as making him sterile, folks with high speed Internet connections that fill our tubes with spam because the moron will click on ANYTHING that has the words "tits" or "lesbos" in it,it truly is a different world now. But for all the great fansites that DIDN'T have comet cursors on them (all 3 of you) I bow my head in a moment of remembrance for the passing of Geocities. For those of us who beards are turning Grey the name does bring back memories.

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    5. Re:RIP by ausekilis · · Score: 5, Funny

      Gems like this?
      VF Designer
      Unfortunately the pain isn't limited to geocities... more pain here.

    6. Re:RIP by fuzzix · · Score: 3, Informative

      Geocities had a lot of content. A huge amount of useful information. Especially the pre-Yahoo stuff. Many times over the last decade I've ended up on a Geocities website when researching particular subjects (sorry - can't give any examples, but more than a couple dozen times when looking at some obscure stuff).

      This was in my browser history.

      Bit outdated, but indicative of the fact that useful stuff resides on geocities.

      Oh, just remembered zx32 which I used to use back in my Windows days.

    7. Re:RIP by nametaken · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Here's where everyone neglects the fact that Geoshitties was a huge lead-up to the blog.

      People with no interest in html, css, hosting, dns, etc. want to brain-dump on the intarwebs too. Geocities did it first, now you go start a blog.

    8. Re:RIP by sortius_nod · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Unfortunately like all good resources, diamonds in the rough. You have to wade through so much shit that you end up almost giving up. Almost... then you find the gem, and cherish it.

      While it is sad to see it gone, the horrid gaudy gif sites will not be missed.

    9. Re:RIP by Kugrian · · Score: 2, Funny

      I used to have a friend who'd clean up after royal events and sift through vomit and random foodstuff and find diamond rings and £10 notes.

      I, personally, used to rummage around a funfair ball-pit and find mobile phones, money, jewelery and other fun tidbits.

    10. Re:RIP by plover · · Score: 1

      Well I'll be! It is in your department tag. Maybe I should read those once in a while.

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    11. Re:RIP by zotz · · Score: 2, Interesting

      They made a TOS change somewhere back in the distant past that resulted in my pulling down most of my info from my spot in TheTropics.

      http://web.archive.org/web/19990128020615/www.geocities.com/TheTropics/1298/

      I don't remember the details at this time.

      drew

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    12. Re:RIP by WhatAmIDoingHere · · Score: 5, Funny

      I had like 14 seizures from that second link, bro.

      Gotta throw a warning up next time.

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    13. Re:RIP by interkin3tic · · Score: 4, Funny

      folks with high speed Internet connections that fill our tubes with spam because the moron will click on ANYTHING that has the words "tits" or "lesbos" in it,it truly is a different world now.

      Your tits and lesbos link seems to be broken. You owe me a new mouse.

    14. Re:RIP by Nimey · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Parent isn't /funny/. He's being dead serious, that's how it was back in the late '90s.

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    15. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI: Your links for "tits" and "lesbos" aren't working correctly. Please correct this quickly.

    16. Re:RIP by Mr_Icon · · Score: 1

      > Many times over the last decade I've ended up on a Geocities website when researching particular subjects...

      That's because now it's all on wikipedia.

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    17. Re:RIP by Redlazer · · Score: 1
      I've used, extensively, some guys guide to buying a Porsche 944.

      It has since been mirrored elsewhere though.

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    18. Re:RIP by RuthlessMinx · · Score: 1
      Amen! I remember those heady halcyon days on the Geocities Neighborhoods pre-Yahoo. I had several Geocities pages back then. (Area 51 Dunes anyone else?)None with comet cursors thank god. But they did have frames. And those terrible rainbow horizontal rules. *shudder*

      I really miss those comet cursors. I may have to make a nostalgia site just so others can experience the joy too.

    19. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Anybody else adopt atheism after viewing that second link?

    20. Re:RIP by BrynM · · Score: 1

      This [geocities.com] was in my browser history.

      If you notice, hitting "Home" on that link takes you to a place that says all the content moved to http://www.herongyang.com/. I'm betting that's happened to a lot of Geocities content. It can now be found elsewhere.

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    21. Re:RIP by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Remember the one that had a giant pocketwatch telling the time on a chain? How it would swing with this kinda sorta gravity that would pull your damned cursor "off course" and it ended up a game of cups and balls trying to get the damned watch to "swing" in the direction you wanted to go? Man you are so right that kids NEED to be able to experience that mind altering state that was the combo of comet cursor+Angelfire or Geocities spacey layouts. The ones that would drive me the most nuts were the "butterfly" cursor sites because they would usually have a "Bllling!" MIDI sound when you clicked on anything and as your butterfly cursor "flapped" it would crap out fairy dust that would slow the graphics cards of the day(Even my baddass Voodoo2) down to a crawl. And those sites would be usually the ONLY source of info on some obscure artist or author.

      You really should set up a simulation of those days. I'd be happy to send my nephews to it every day just to make them see what it was like "See I told you it was torture!" while playing a .wav of Sam Kinison screeching "AHHHHH I'M IN HELL!"

      And for those that complained that the tits and lesbos links don't work, here are some pictures of tits and Lesbos. Enjoy. ;-)

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    22. Re:RIP by biobogonics · · Score: 4, Informative

      Geocities had a lot of content. A huge amount of useful information. Especially the pre-Yahoo stuff.

      Yes. For example websites devoted to the internals of GW-Basic. I don't write new programs in it, but I still convert old programs written in it. Also, the early versions of G77 for Windows are there plus documentation plus collections of compiled libraries.

      A bigger bite is for those of us whose ISPs were the baby Bells. I still have an old web page that is essentially prodigy. 15 MB limit, one level, browser based updating and file creation, but it's ad free and still there. More recent customers found their personal web pages are hosted on Geocities, complete with their icky ad overlays.

      Yahoo managed to crap up the e-mail side too, when they migrated their customers to "Yahoo mail". I pay for e-mail as part of my internet access. If I want to read e-mail on the web, it comes with ads.

      So I'm not entirely sorry that Geocities is going away. And as bad as AT&T and Yahoo are, both are far better than the local cable company.

    23. Re:RIP by actionbastard · · Score: 1

      Earthlink? AOL? "...the late '90s"? Where the fuck were you in 1990 when I was downloading pr0n from a Usenet dialup BBS? Huh?

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    24. Re:RIP by daveime · · Score: 1

      Donald Knuth (creative / scientific genius at least in my books) had some serious interest in HTML / CSS issues, and was quick to take W3C to task over messing with them.

      http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/CommentView.aspx?guid=76608c5d-f71a-440e-be87-165fa8b6f2f0

    25. Re:RIP by Daengbo · · Score: 1

      There were great attempt at open work like ESOLScale, which tried to create a mapping between different English test scores around the world in order to make evaluation standard.

      I still find (well, found, at this point) myself on Geocities two or three times a year, not for crap, but for real research.

    26. Re:RIP by ChangelingJane · · Score: 1

      Truth is funnier than fiction.

    27. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Geo what? Wasn't that car?

    28. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Umm, so you were one of those idiots who INSTALLED comet cursor, right? I never saw the dreaded behavior, because I didn't install that kind of crap on my computer.

      Comet cursor didn't do anything without the client side app.

      So, you apparently clicked on anything that said "OMG Comet!" and let it install. Lets face it grey beard, you were a noob dumbass at one point, installing crap and blaming the web for the issues you had. Hand in your geek card as you leave please.

    29. Re:RIP by Meski · · Score: 1

      geocities, pronounced to rhyme with atrocities...

    30. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I just click through members in the webring.

      Ah, pointless nostalgia :-)

    31. Re:RIP by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      *clap clap clap*

      Now make Angelfire go away!

    32. Re:RIP by maharb · · Score: 1

      I have been to a lots of geocities pages that provided useful information. These pages were ranked high on the google search engine. I think it is a 'loss' but really the only thing that will happen is lots of old pages will be lost forever while some of the ewer ones will be transferred to one of the other free hosting providers that now exist.

    33. Re:RIP by adona1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, for those who read comics on their computers, you might want to stop by CDisplay's site & get it before it goes. Not aware of any other Windows comic readers offhand.

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    34. Re:RIP by RuthlessMinx · · Score: 1

      Someone needs to make a web 1.0 museum exhibit with geocities, old search engines like Altavista, classic AOL - Keywords and chatrooms, comet curser, galleries of sexy celeb pics but no nudes, and netscape browser irregularities

    35. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I learned HTML from Geocities.

      With earnest and a renewed sense of nostalgia, RIP Geocities.

    36. Re:RIP by MojoStan · · Score: 1

      For a long while Geocities was the only place hobbyists could spew their knowledge. Now it's all over the place. Hopefully the internet archive can hold on to some of those soon-to-be lost gems.

      I just had to check (for fun) the archive for old versions of Anand's Hardware Tech Page. Unfortunately, the oldest archived Geocities page is just a notice that the site has moved to Anandtech.com.

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    37. Re:RIP by zymano · · Score: 1

      Anyone remember the Geocities MODEL/ACTRESS fan sites?

    38. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's /why/ it's funny

    39. Re:RIP by Jarik_Tentsu · · Score: 1

      Ah nostalgia. I made my first Pokemon website on Geocities. Back when you had like 5MB of webspace - enough to get a few images on and that was it.

      Better than Maxpages though. THey had like, 1MB and you had to pay for images.

    40. Re:RIP by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Earthlink? AOL? "...the late '90s"? Where the fuck were you in 1990 when I was downloading pr0n from a Usenet dialup BBS? Huh?

      According to Wikipedia, fount of all human knowledge, GeoCities was created in late 1994, so what you may have been doing in 1990 has no bearing on this discussion.

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    41. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm sure we all agree on that, but also that he has special interest in these matters and is not representative of most of the great scientific and creative geniuses whose content we might be interested in.

    42. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    43. Re:RIP by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Uuuhhh...hate to tell you, but if you had IE 4-6 you didn't actually NEED to install ANYTHING for the cursor to 'display" on a web page, thanks to the fun technology that was...dum dum dum...ActiveX! Thanks to the early security model of ActiveX you don't need to install squat for comet cursor to run! Isn't that great! of course then the malware guys figured out how truly shitty the security model on IE was and ActiveX got slaughtered. Kinda like what we are seeing now with JavaScript. Wow, what goes around comes around.

      But as you can see here under the aptly named "controversy" that not only did they do some back door bundling with popular apps like Realpalyer(EEK!) but thanks to ActiveX there was the little bit of fun known as the "no click install" where just having a page load that unbeknown to you had comet cursor just like an STD you got it too! Wasn't that great! As someone who had to clean comet cursor off of more machines than I can count I can tell you that 1-It did NOT need installation before it started screwing with the cursor, thanks to ActiveX controls and the non existent security model of the IE at the time, and 2-it would "no click install" itself at the drop of a hat or the loading of a Geocities page with NO WARNING OR USER ACTION whatsoever. Again, thanks to the wonderful lack of security in the early IE ActiveX. It was just balls of fun! Almost as fun as all the users I had coming through my door pleading "Please just KILL THAT DAMNED MONKEY BEFORE I TAKE MY GUN TO THIS DAMNED THING!!!!!

      Ahhhh...what a different time that was. When malware not only tried NOT to be hidden, but actually went out of its way to bug the living shit out of you. Such a strange and wonderful time that was. While I would fully support a "web 1.0" simulation of those times for future generations I am personally glad not to be living them anymore. Give me my customers malware ridden boxes that just quietly spew spam over that talking monkey or crapping cursors any day of the week. At least they are quiet.

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    44. Re:RIP by martin-boundary · · Score: 1

      But it is *definitely* funny if you imagine this rant being spoken out loud by Sean Connery...

    45. Re:RIP by Starayo · · Score: 4, Funny

      I was already an atheist, but if I wasn't I would strongly suspect that page was made by Satan - check out the browser recommendation.

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    46. Re:RIP by ciderVisor · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately the pain isn't limited to geocities... more pain here.

      Holy shit !!!

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    47. Re:RIP by ciderVisor · · Score: 1

      You're The Man now, Dog.

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    48. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree: gotta throw up!

    49. Re:RIP by c0p0n · · Score: 1

      Thanks for that second link. Now I know for sure I have epilepsy.

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    50. Re:RIP by wcb4 · · Score: 1

      if you had browser security set high, you did have to at least click to allow it. If you got caught in a drive by install, then you had browser security set low, shame on you.

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    51. Re:RIP by maxume · · Score: 1

      CDisplayEx and ComicRack are two:

      http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdisplayex/
      http://comicrack.cyolito.com/

      CDisplayEx appears to be inactive but is about what it says, ComicRack wants to help you manage your files, so I don't use it (when I checked it out, I didn't really look to see if there was a way to use it only as a viewer).

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    52. Re:RIP by amoeba1911 · · Score: 1

      That's worse than goatse.

    53. Re:RIP by vertinox · · Score: 1

      hooking up to the net with Earthlink or AOHell dialup, and of course the evil plague that spread across the net at that time

      I had Mindspring you insensitive clod!

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    54. Re:RIP by Ginger+Unicorn · · Score: 1

      I think the point was that he was lampooning what he perceives as "i'm more old-skool that you" dick swinging in the original posters' post. To do this he mentioned things that happened one technology iteration previous to GeoCities.

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    55. Re:RIP by Nimey · · Score: 1

      In fifth or sixth grade, thinking how awesome my Apple //c was.

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    56. Re:RIP by putaro · · Score: 1

      Earthlink? AOL? "...the late '90s"? Where the fuck were you in 1990 when I was downloading pr0n from a Usenet dialup BBS? Huh?

      Laughing at the johnnie-come-latelies and enjoying our Ethernet net link to CERFnet on the floor above us.

    57. Re:RIP by sdellysse · · Score: 1

      The truly worst part about that is the fact they advocate Internet Explorer, and use VBScript. wow. VBScript. haven't seen that in years....

    58. Re:RIP by slash.duncan · · Score: 2, Funny

      What, this link: http://www.dokimos.org/ajff/ ?

      That's not too bad, really. A bit overboard on the accept Jesus graphic, but white text quoting a couple Bible verses, on a black background, with a door and a cat doing a single animation sequence, that's not so bad.

      Oh, you mean what it must look like UNFILTERED! [Bypass privoxy with my light text on dark background enforcement filter that kills background images, turn on scripting, toggle animation from once to enabled, refresh.]

      OK, NOW I see what you mean!

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    59. Re:RIP by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      Geocities had a lot of content. A huge amount of useful information. Especially the pre-Yahoo stuff. Many times over the last decade I've ended up on a Geocities website when researching particular subjects (sorry - can't give any examples, but more than a couple dozen times when looking at some obscure stuff).

      Geocities was a lot like an attic, full of crap but when you need something often you find it there.

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    60. Re:RIP by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      Do you remember a "Turbo" button on PC's?

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    61. Re:RIP by vishbar · · Score: 1

      Earthlink? AOL? "...the late '90s"? Where the fuck were you in 1990 when I was downloading pr0n from a Usenet dialup BBS? Huh?

      I was 3. My interest in pr0n wouldn't come for another three or four years.

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    62. Re:RIP by hairyfeet · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nope, had it set to medium, because pretty much NO sites including my bank at the time(WTF?) would work correctly on high. You see my friend you are forgetting the wonderful world that was the web with ActiveX. Need a scrollbar on your page? ActiveX! Want a clock? ActiveX! Buttons, menus, hell there were so many pages that you couldn't do a damned thing without ActiveX that setting security in IE to high was the same as trying to uninstall IE and go back to FTP. Nothing worked. kinda like flash now.

      Go to any major corps(especially anyone involved with media) websites with flash disabled. Go ahead, I'll wait. What's that? You just get a plugin symbol in the middle of a blank page and can't go anywhere? Welcome to 1997 and what it was like to surf without any ActiveX. Folks forget the kind of marketing MSFT put behind ActiveX. It was going to solve all your web page problems and make the link between desktop and server obsolete! You will be able to make rich web apps in seconds and your users will be able to use them just as if they were built in! No Install Required! if you want to see how much that attitude spread across the web, you only have to look up the fact that IE6 usage goes up between Mon-Fri. That is because so much of the corporate Intranet was built during those days and still needs IE6 to run ActiveX, and the users simply surf with it. Scary,huh?

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    63. Re:RIP by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Bonzi Buddy,a simulation of Audio Galaxy, Musicmatch Jukebox, and being stuck on Earthlink or AOL dialup. things were so different back then. Norton Utilities were actually good, WMP was actually low resource and looked like it was made for Windows, thanks to the DOS underpinnings you could strip Win9x and rebuild it like a classic Chevy, and everyone had their favorite Wintricks. Set me in front of a DOS prompt and I can still whip off the old commands to copy the Win98 folder to the hard drive and run it from there for a new install just like it was yesterday. Things were just so different compared to now.

      You know, we may all be joking around but somebody really ought to try to preserve the experience, because just talking about it and actually experiencing the way things were back then is completely different. I tell my boys what it was like and they look at me like I was insane. They can't believe people dealt with talking malware or had to have time out programs that simulated mouse movements just to keep your ISP from kicking you off. Remember those?

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    64. Re:RIP by inotocracy · · Score: 1

      But, what will happen to the beloved Seizure Robots?!

    65. Re:RIP by Estanislao+Mart�nez · · Score: 2, Funny

      Those of you who don't read Portuguese might be missing on the irony of the first site (WARNING: epileptastic!). It's advertising a web site design and creation service. You know, you pay the guy, and he makes you a website like that...

    66. Re:RIP by artemis67 · · Score: 1

      I created a website for my daughter when she was born 10 years ago to show pictures to family and friends, and was one of the first websites that I built. And it wasn't just a bunch of pictures on a page; I actually spent time on the concept and design to ramp the cuteness factor up to 11.

      I haven't touched it since then, but my daughter and I have looked at it from time to time. I think it's absolutely wonderful that the website has survived this long without any need for maintenance or intervention. There was no Flickr back then, so I would have paid a small fortune in hosting fees over the past decade to keep it up for the past decade if I had used commercial hosting.

    67. Re:RIP by jrade · · Score: 1

      Gems like this? VF Designer Unfortunately the pain isn't limited to geocities... more pain here.

      Too funny!
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    68. Re:RIP by nicolas.kassis · · Score: 1

      Can't slashdot get a spam filter

    69. Re:RIP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      here.

      Yeah I thought it was some sort of LGBT site until my eyes stopped bleeding and I was able to read some of the text. Silly fundies :-p

    70. Re:RIP by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      Oh yes I do remember the "turbo" button, or the "fun" of dealing with Compaq memory. For those youngsters that don't know, there was a time when desktops were even more proprietary than laptops are now. They would do things like build drive cages that would only allow their drives to fit, or the ever popular "use a funky ass PSU shape" so the damned things can't be swapped out, but the absolute WORST was Compaq.

      You see, they would set their mobos so they ran at a volt or so off on the memory. There was no way in hell to change it either. So the ONLY memory that would work is Compaq and even then only RAM that was built to support whichever scheme they used on your board. Because you see some boards they built to run a little too hot, others a little underpowered, and the chips wouldn't work correctly unless they were built for the right quirk. Fun huh? So as much as I hate the proprietary nature of laptops now, at least with desktops and laptops DDR2 is DDR2 and SATA is SATA. No more funky ass, never find a replacement for less than the cost of a new machine, PITA parts like those from Compaq and Dell. I even have an old Compaq 733 SFF that the PSU is shaped like a fricking warped triangle! Good luck finding anything to fit in THAT box if the PSU ever dies!

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    71. Re:RIP by WebCowboy · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately the pain isn't limited to geocities... more pain here.

      HOLY crap! JESUS WEPT!

    72. Re:RIP by RuthlessMinx · · Score: 1
      I remember Bonzi buddy like it was yesterday. I can still remember using Musicmatch Jukebox handling my 1500 song playlist/library. But musicmatch was worlds better than Winamp if only because of the horrible, terrible winamp skins. I still have all these programs preserved on an old harddrive somewhere.

      But I agree we need to get serious about preservation. The wayback machine is good for somethings but there's so many sites that have already been lost forever. Some museum should set up an experience/simulation of what computing was like at different periods of time.

      Remember the beautiful music of your modem connecting over dialup to earthlink? Remember IE 4 or 5.5? Certainly a better browser than netscape navigator but when I look back now I can't imagine surfing the net with that.

      I would love to contribute to a simulation of computing history. We could create virtual machines of OS/programs at different points in time.

      Remember Encarta Encyclopedia? It still runs in Vista. I still have the CD. It is priceless.

    73. Re:RIP by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      I'd agree with the awful .gif's and styles, but they had a lot more going for them than myspace.

      That's because MySpace is- for all its mindboggling popularity- focused on a particular niche which generally doesn't- and isn't intended to- include hosting reference information.

      As you mention elsewhere, GeoCities was the "only" place for hobbyists to put information- but that just meant it was hosted with them.

      Many times over the last decade I've ended up on a Geocities website when researching particular subjects (sorry - can't give any examples, but more than a couple dozen times when looking at some obscure stuff).

      Yeah, but "the last decade" includes both 1999 and last week; but while a (relatively) large proportion of useful info was probably hosted on Geocities circa 1999, I rarely if ever find stuff I'm looking for there now.(*)

      For a long while Geocities was the only place hobbyists could spew their knowledge.

      I never used Geocities and I had webspace with my ISPs, so I don't remember, but was Geocities the only provider of free webspace and did they provide useful tools to help newbies build web pages?

      In other words, was it the "only place", or just a well-known jumping-off point that technophobic 1990s newbies used because everyone else did?

      Either way, Geocities was still basically just a web host (albeit one which was free and slapped annoying ads and branding over the sites). Yeah, it's a part of web history (**), but ironically most of the nostalgia suddenly being unleashed here is probably because it made itself tackily prominent- and hence associated with- other peoples' late-90s sites it hosted.

      And long before this announced shutdown it was mostly a relic of the past; the majority of sites it hosted don't appear to have been touched since the millennium.

      (*) Ironically, being so common, I guess it never stuck in my head when a website was hosted by GeoCities... so nowadays I couldn't tell you how much- if any- "useful" information I found was hosted there circa 1999. Probably a decent percentage. Conversely, nowadays I'd notice and remember if a useful site was hosted by them- if only because it seems as anachronistic and tied to a past era as cargo pants. Yet I very rarely come across GeoCities results for "proper" information searches.

      (**) And I'd like to say that:-
      (i) I hope that Yahoo at least retain/store the websites as a historical artifact (while allowing their owners to remove them if so desired). Bear in mind that while it was big by the standards of the time, the number of Geocities sites is still probably dwarfed by the likes of MySpace.
      More importantly, since most of its sites are now quite old, I suspect that GeoCities' storage requirements are miniscule by modern MySpace/YouTube-era standards. If a site was 10MB in total- and I suspect that most were *way* smaller than that- you could store around 100,000 of them on a single 1TB drive alone.
      (ii) Similar argument for the bandwidth required to keep GeoCities running. Couldn't Yahoo keep it online anyway, while closing the service to new accounts and encouraging still active sites to move elsewhere?

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    74. Re:RIP by Mozk · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You jest, but I honestly felt nauseous after seeing that.

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    75. Re:RIP by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      I have a geocities site which I've not updated since circa 2002, but I still use it for storing documents online which I can access from any place in the world. Here's a site that has been updated in just the last half-year. It's obviously a hobbyist site but whoever owns it is likely to be disappointed to see it go.

      http://www.geocities.com/kshavo/index.HTML

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    76. Re:RIP by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      I have a geocities site which I've not updated since circa 2002, but I still use it for storing documents online which I can access from any place in the world.

      That's nice, but I'm sure there are plenty of alternatives for that, and it wasn't really the point of Geocities. The fact that you haven't updated the actual site since 2002 reinforces my point.

      And I said the "majority" of sites. With something as big as Geocities, it's inevitable that a small proportion of sites will still be being actively updated, but I'd guess that the vast majority have been abandoned.

      And come to think of it, of the sites still in use, I wonder how many were started in the past five or six years?

      Still, Geocities' storage and bandwidth requirements is probably so small by modern standards, that IMHO there's no reason for them *not* to keep existing sites online- even if they close the service to new users and (possibly) prevent updates to existing sites. They must be making money off the ads after all.

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    77. Re:RIP by Walter+Carver · · Score: 1

      I still have an old web page that is essentially prodigy. 15 MB limit, one level, browser based updating and file creation, but it's ad free and still there.

      Will you share the link with us? :)

    78. Re:RIP by Old+Grey+Beard · · Score: 1

      Well said, hairyfeet. I was an early GC adopter, back when you could use unclosed HTML comments to delete the crap they appended to your upload.

      There's so little storage involved, and surely bandwidth must be miniscule too. Makes me wonder about Yahoo's motives -- expense control? Things are that bad at Yahoo?

      Why yes, I do have a /WallStreet address. A tip of the hat to the Archive Team!

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    79. Re:RIP by neurovish · · Score: 1

      Fortunately Opera came on the scene about the same time and saved us all from Comet Cursor!

      Well, at least the 5 or so of us that used it then.

    80. Re:RIP by pianoman19403 · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is.... that like their choice in clothing and style. We all know that they took one last look at what they had, and said "Damn, that looks GOOD" reality check FAIL!!!!

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  2. Value by neovoxx · · Score: 0, Redundant

    And nothing of value was lost.

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    1. Re:Value by neokushan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't know, when researching some really really old file formats for some old games, I found that a lot of documentation for them was held on sites like geocities, long since forgotten about and destined to be lost if Yahoo just pulls the plug completely. No doubt there's a fair amount of information littered over the service amidst all of the Frontpage 97 templated gif-fests.
      At the very least, they should let archive.org or something back the whole damn thing up, it may have been a rubbish service, but it's still an important part of internet history.
      That and they'd actually be able to supply some decent bandwidth to the things.

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    2. Re:Value by stonedcat · · Score: 1

      Cartoon Girls That I Wanna Nail - http://www.geocities.com/televisioncity/1356/
      Now say that again knowing what will be lost!

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    3. Re:Value by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Now they live on on google cache. It never forgets and never forgives.

    4. Re:Value by telchine · · Score: 5, Interesting

      And nothing of value was lost.

      Something of great value was lost!

      Unfortunately it was lost long ago.

      I remember the original Geocities... well before Yahoo bought them out. It was a thriving community of Internet users, the kind of people that had Internet access but didn't have web space, or their own server to host pages.

      If you can't remember a Geocities before Yahoo! then please think twice before dismissing it.

      If it wasn't for Geocities, I probably wouldn't be a Web Developer now. I used to code up pages on my ageing 8086 (without a graphical web browser, so I had no way of testing), I used to take the HTML files into college which had computers powerful enough to run Netscape. After a bit of debugging, I'd upload them to Geocities and they were live!

      Sure, some people had nice web servers that their companies paid for, but I couldn't afford that, I just had my college's 1KB/sec Internet connection and my free Geocities account. It served me well!

      I'll miss Geocities.

      I'll also miss every other service that Yahoo! butchered too! Anyone remember the original Rocketmail, OneList? WebRing? Launch.com? All Seeing Eye?

      All great services ruined by Yahoo!

      I still use Flickr, but I worry for its future. Yahoo! have a bad history!

      Last but not least...

      RIP Geocities. You served me well! It's a pity Yahoo! murdered you!

    5. Re:Value by SendBot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You were using an 8086 then? You could probably have fished a perfectly usable 286 or 386 machine out of a hospital dumpster for free, or bought such a computer for dirt cheap. I even had a 486sx/33 chip my rich (yet not pretentious) friend handed down to me around the time GC was born, though it took me a few months to get the rest of the components.

      That's cool you were doing that and remember all that stuff! I remember using NCSA mosaic in 16-color windows 3.11, and how cool the beta netscape was. And before then I was serious into BBS's.

      In fact, it was because of geocities that I came up with a nifty "hosting" service (namebooster.com, now owned by some squatter) that would allow you to have a domain name, and have it take you to a painfully long geocities URL. At first I did it in cgi, but then I learned apache rewrite rules that made it easier to manage. I didn't really make any money off of that, but it did open the door to some crazy adventures I encountered shortly after during the .com boom.

    6. Re:Value by bronney · · Score: 1

      Word, bro. I still remember my geocities link had a Tokyo in it :) If it wasn't for geocities, I wouldn't have my job now.

    7. Re:Value by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now say that again knowing what will be lost!

      Sweet merciful fuck. First, I haven't laughed so hard in my life. Second, that's possibly the first example of Rule 34 ever transmitted to HTTP. Seriously, that's internet-archaeology-level lulz. Will definitely be saved/mirrored, at least locally, as long as Geocities stops 503ing me as I try to navigate it by hand.

    8. Re:Value by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya right. You had internet access on your 8086? A tcp/ip connection and a text web browser? An 8086 was obsolete years before geocities was even a glimmer in anyones eye, in fact before the www was even invented the 8086 was a dinosaur.

    9. Re:Value by ciderVisor · · Score: 1

      You had internet access on your 8086?

      No, he had sneakernet access, if you RTFP.

      My brother-in-law was using an 8080-based Amstrad POS well into the early '90s (whilst I had an Amiga 500+). We tend to forget just how primitive things were in those days. I remember reading the spec for LucasArts' "The Dig" and wondering how many people could afford to have such a kick-ass system at home for playing games.

      By the time I created my first GeoCities page ('97 or '98), I was using a similar system as described above. I had a hand-me-down Windows 3.1 PC at home (no net connection) and used my work's internet access to upload the hand-cranked HTML files and hand-optimised GIFs. It wasn't until 2000 that I had a Windows 98 machine and dial-up access from home.

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    10. Re:Value by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The way back machine probably got quite a few as well.

    11. Re:Value by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

      It was never a rubbish service. The ads were a reasonable trade off for a free service. People really should not complain about ads on a free service because its what allows the service to be provided for free. I still think that web page hosting is still important and there are things that can be done with it that cant be done with facebook. Shutting down Geocities is a really dumb decision. There is a lot of important content on Geocities that really should be archived somewhere. This is an example of what many have expressed concern about, that the cultural records and legacy of an entire era is dissappearing as a result of computer data being deleted.

    12. Re:Value by chrysrobyn · · Score: 1

      My brother-in-law was using an 8080-based Amstrad POS well into the early '90s (whilst I had an Amiga 500+). We tend to forget just how primitive things were in those days. I remember reading the spec for LucasArts' "The Dig" and wondering how many people could afford to have such a kick-ass system at home for playing games.

      I was still using a 8088 in 1990, but it died one tragic day in 1991. We replaced it with a 286 for $100. Calling those days "primitive" isn't as accurate. In those days, some people didn't understand that it was often cheaper to upgrade than repair, and those who didn't read the trade mags or walk into a game store didn't know about new software whose minimum requirements vastly surpassed our systems. My parents didn't see the point in upgrading a functional computer so I could play more computer games.

      By the time I created my first GeoCities page ('97 or '98), I was using a similar system as described above. I had a hand-me-down Windows 3.1 PC at home (no net connection) and used my work's internet access to upload the hand-cranked HTML files and hand-optimised GIFs. It wasn't until 2000 that I had a Windows 98 machine and dial-up access from home.

      Windows 3.1 required protected memory, which required at least a 386. A 386, of course, was worlds better than any 8080, even if you have some affection for Amstrad. It was certainly possible to get an ISP for less than $10/month in 1998, and a 9600 modem for around that same amount. A name brand 56k modem set me back $60 in 1999.

      The point to your parent's post was not what you could do with old equipment, but the value of spending a little more money and what you could do with it. Nobody's picking on your Amstrad, the point is that a little more money could have gotten a big upgrade in horsepower and gotten you on the web -- which you already know based on your Win98 machine.

    13. Re:Value by Acer500 · · Score: 0, Redundant

      I'm not the OP, but I did install a modem on my father's 8086 (the family computer, an Acer500 :) ) in the 90s.

      I live in Uruguay, where NOBODY throws away a computer, and they were hideously expensive at the time.

      I didn't have Internet access, though, I used it to access BBSs and such.

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    14. Re:Value by Acer500 · · Score: 1

      You were using an 8086 then? You could probably have fished a perfectly usable 286 or 386 machine out of a hospital dumpster for free

      Not everybody lives in the US. Over here (Uruguay), you cannot find a 386 for free NOW, forget about the 1990s.

      And I did have a modem in the family 8086 Acer 500 computer at the time Geocities launched (no Internet though).

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    15. Re:Value by slapout · · Score: 1

      Not sure I'd want to go digging thru a hospital dumpster.

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  3. good memories by f1vlad · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Nothing lost but sad. I remember those days of geocities prospering. But I was more tripod.com guy than geocities. Hope tripod.com will live for longer. I am actually using it still for something.

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    1. Re:good memories by Kinky+Bass+Junk · · Score: 5, Funny

      Hope tripod.com will live for longer. I am actually using it still for something.

      Propping up a camera?

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    2. Re:good memories by Tenareth · · Score: 2, Funny

      I think you need to work on your technique of first impressions... :)

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    3. Re:good memories by apostrophesemicolon · · Score: 1

      of all the old social networking sites, I miss eCircles.com the most. It had most of the trappings of today's social sites: personal info, fileshare, pictures, comment system, and more..

      anybody else used eCircles back then?

    4. Re:good memories by f1vlad · · Score: 1

      hm, suprisingly I never heard of it. Was that converted to classmates? I didn't really know what social networking was back then :) I just exchanged banners and links with my college friends. Spent most of my free time hacking together page :)

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    5. Re:good memories by f1vlad · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yes, yes and yes. And no, I am not gonna ban you, biggie, don't even ask.

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  4. It hurts me inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Geocities - crappy as it may have been - was all the rage back in 98 when I 'joined the internet'.

    My heart aches.

    1. Re:It hurts me inside by ZyBex · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Imagine Google, Facebook and Twitter 10 years from now.

    2. Re:It hurts me inside by daranz · · Score: 4, Funny

      It'll probably be more like Google, Google and Google 10 years from now.

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    3. Re:It hurts me inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All bow before the almighty GoofyTwit!

    4. Re:It hurts me inside by owlnation · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Imagine Google, Facebook and Twitter 10 years from now.

      I'd say there's a good chance Google will still be around in 10 years. I'd say there's very little chance Facebook is. And I'd say there's not a snowball's chance in Hell that Twitter is around in 5 years, never mind 10.

    5. Re:It hurts me inside by stonedcat · · Score: 1

      In the future all restaurants will be Google.

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    6. Re:It hurts me inside by yelirekim · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't really see facebook disappearing any time soon, there is an awful lot of value there for the people who use it. It's the equivalent of a "box of polariods" for about half of all college students in the US.

    7. Re:It hurts me inside by telchine · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd say there's a good chance Google will still be around in 10 years.

      You know what, 10 years ago, I'd have said that there'd be a good chance that AltaVista will still be around in 10 Years!

      If you don't know what AltaVista is then you might want to Google it. 10 years ago, you'd likely have AltaVista'd Google to find out what Google was!

      AltaVista is still around but it's a subsidiary of Google. I'm not saying that Google won't be around in 10 years... I'm just saying that 10 years is a long time in Internet time!

      Talking of which, does anyone else remember Internet Time?

    8. Re:It hurts me inside by gollito · · Score: 1

      And I'd say there's not a snowball's chance in Hell that Twitter is around in 5 years, never mind 10.

      From your mouth to God's ears. I can't stand all the news sites right now. Twitter this and twitter that. *barf*

    9. Re:It hurts me inside by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I'd say there's a good chance Google will still be around in 10 years. I'd say there's very little chance Facebook is. And I'd say there's not a snowball's chance in Hell that Twitter is around in 5 years, never mind 10.

      Do you have any evidence for these statements, or do you just happen to like Google and hate the other two(like a good /.er should)?

      Google's likely to stick around because it's so large, and still trends very well. They do a lot of innovative things, and lots of us are using them for our email. They'll very likely change, and we might not think of them as a Search company (exclusively) anymore, but they'll be around. So here, I agree with you.

      Facebook is huge, but then again, so was Myspace in 2003. Of course, Myspace hasn't gone anywhere - it's just not as trendy as Facebook. I agree that social networking will lose some luster, but for huge numbers of the internet population, social networking of some sort is a prime reason to be online. This is especially true in the younger set, and there's just going to be more of them. Facebook might not be a big player in 10 years. Maybe it'll adapt/create some sort of open standard for social networking. There's no way it'll just be gone.

      Twitter's interesting - it's a very new service and an honestly new type of thing online. I think it'll change and might be unrecognizable by users today, but there's no reason to think it'll disappear - it's very useful for its intended purpose, and there's a lot of evidence to support that it's in a prime position to replace group chat (think IRC, chatrooms, etc). It certainly has a lot of the same functionality.

      If you'd asked people in 2000 about some crazy new thing called "blogging" (especially people on slashdot), a bunch would have said it was just a boring trend that would disappear before long. It's evolved, and so will Twitter and Facebook. Don't let the irrational slashdot hate of the two services cloud your judgment.

    10. Re:It hurts me inside by WMD_88 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More like a filing cabinet of polaroids. My "friends" on Facebook often take 50+ photos of every single event and post them all. Most of the pictures aren't even worth saving. (Such as the ones with me in them :)

    11. Re:It hurts me inside by ydrol · · Score: 1

      > AltaVista is still around but it's a subsidiary of Google. I'm guessing you mean Overture or Yahoo, but that just reinforces the mindshare Google has!

    12. Re:It hurts me inside by Drinking+Bleach · · Score: 1

      Sorry to burst your bubble, but Google lost the franchise wars against AltaVista.

    13. Re:It hurts me inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd say there's a good chance Google will still be around in 10 years. I'd say there's very little chance Facebook is. And I'd say there's not a snowball's chance in Hell that Twitter is around in 5 years, never mind 10.

      You sound pretty certain about that. Wanna invest in my company? We make 640k sticks of RAM.

    14. Re:It hurts me inside by hannson · · Score: 1

      The way I see social networking and blogging etc. in the future is distributed using open protocols, much like email and jabber is now eg. without totally central control... well I certainly hope all the people stop putting all their personal information into a single corporate database.

      But I'm probably wrong...

    15. Re:It hurts me inside by AnyoneEB · · Score: 1

      I hope so. At the very least, then stuff like Facebook's constant interface changes would not annoy people (as you would just use your own personalized (web?) client). Really the idea of any one company's servers be a single point of failure for a service seems silly. From an internet architecture point of view, tying a service to a specific set of servers run by a select few seems silly if not plain ridiculous. Ex. Imagine if, say, AT&T ran e-mail. (Then again, some people mainly use Facebook messages instead of e-mail...)

      There are some problems with such an approach, though. The main one I can think of is how to handle an equivalent of Facebook's networks (which essentially comes down to groups defined by people in the group or by controlling an e-mail address in a specific domain) across multiple servers. Jabber already seems to handle spam okay (in that I have never gotten spam on any Jabber account), but that might be due to its relatively small size and that IM spam is pretty rare anyway.

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    16. Re:It hurts me inside by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 5, Funny

      I don't think there will be a 'Google' in ten years, I am more thinking there will be a 'Google-Starbucks-Boeing-WalMart-America-China' super entity that reigns over the known universe and controls everything via an AI named 'GORT-Hal-Skynet.'

      Luckily for us, I think we will still have the real Arnold Schwarzenegger for defense, and if not, we will always have digitized CGI models of him to wage binary wars on the new GooMartBucksWangCletusPlane superstructure....

    17. Re:It hurts me inside by Magic5Ball · · Score: 1

      All your Google are belong to Google?
      -AD 2001

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    18. Re:It hurts me inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AltaVista is still around but it's a subsidiary of Google.

      Do your homework. AltaVista is a subsidiary of Overture, which is a subsidiary of... Yahoo!

    19. Re:It hurts me inside by Phroggy · · Score: 2, Informative

      Ah, but do you remember AltaVista before they bought the altavista.com domain name? It used to be altavista.digital.com! Of course DEC became Compaq which became HP, and as others have corrected you, Yahoo! now owns AltaVista.

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    20. Re:It hurts me inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is exactly what is needed. Does anyone know of a project trying to implement this?

    21. Re:It hurts me inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Altavista is a subsidiary of Yahoo, not Google

    22. Re:It hurts me inside by balloonpup · · Score: 1

      Hey, the watch I use on a daily basis (a Swatch Microsoft SPOT/MSN Direct watch) still does Internet Time.

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    23. Re:It hurts me inside by ciderVisor · · Score: 1

      Google's likely to stick around because it's so large, and still trends very well.

      WTF does that even mean ? Speak English, boy !

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    24. Re:It hurts me inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yahoo! own AltaVista , not Google. IIRC, they got it when they bought Overture, who had previously taken over AltaVista.

    25. Re:It hurts me inside by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      If you don't know what AltaVista is then you might want to Google it. 10 years ago, you'd likely have AltaVista'd Google to find out what Google was!

      Yup, that's what I did nine years ago when someone first mentioned Google to me. Altavista was on its way out then though. The main search page had become so bloated that it took over 30 seconds to load on my modem. I switched to Google immediately because it took about two seconds to load.

      That said, if you'd told me ten years ago that Yahoo! would still be around and have a market capitalisation of over $20bn in ten years time, I probably would not have believed you. The difference between Altavista and the other search engines is that Altavista had no business model. It was an advert for the Alpha, and once Intel persuaded HP to kill the Alpha it had no reason to continue to exist.

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    26. Re:It hurts me inside by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      But Coke was replaced by Gooke Beta. With personalized taste, based on your past Google searches.

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    27. Re:It hurts me inside by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      I believe you are referring to the Shipstone Corporation.

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    28. Re:It hurts me inside by chrysrobyn · · Score: 1

      I don't think there will be a 'Google' in ten years, I am more thinking there will be a 'Google-Starbucks-Boeing-WalMart-America-China' super entity that reigns over the known universe and controls everything via an AI named 'GORT-Hal-Skynet.'

      I take comfort in knowing we'll have Weyland-Yutani (not yet sure how this will form), Blue Sun (probably after IBM buys Oracle's Sun) and Wal-Mart. A little competition is good, even amongst evil corporations.

    29. Re:It hurts me inside by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More people used AstaLaVista than AltaVista

    30. Re:It hurts me inside by vrmlguy · · Score: 1

      Ah, but do you remember AltaVista before they bought the altavista.com domain name?

      Heck, I remeber using Archie.

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    31. Re:It hurts me inside by m.ducharme · · Score: 1

      Thing is, Facebook is starting to absorb a lot of the time people spend on the internet. It has e-mail, picture sharing, link sharing, online gaming (Scrabble, anyone?), and more besides. Facebook is conglomerating all the silly, useless time-wasters into one convenient place and interface, and this has a lot of value for everyday folk surfing the web. I think Facebook might have more longevity than you think.

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    32. Re:It hurts me inside by denttford · · Score: 1

      No it's not. Altavista is owned by yahoo. I am reminded of this fact constantly, because my ping connectivity test has gone from google.com to av.com.
      Saving me four letters per use, this represents one of the better suggestions I've found on slashdot, one I use daily.

      user@example:~$ ping av.com
      PING av.com (206.190.60.37) 56(84) bytes of data.
      64 bytes from w2.rc.vip.re4.yahoo.com (206.190.60.37): icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=34.6 ms

      As far as Swatch internet time goes, I bought a Swatch MSN Direct (remember that?) watch for $20 last year. It was fun, sort of, for the novelty, but not for the size of the charger.
      Or the frequency of the charging.

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    33. Re:It hurts me inside by hannson · · Score: 1

      Jabber already seems to handle spam okay (in that I have never gotten spam on any Jabber account)

      I've gotten a lot of spam on MSN IM. Using social engineering the convince people to "log in" to a site using their msn login. In the EULA you give them the rights to use your account to promote their services.

      My idea of a social network is pretty much the same as email is today. You could pay for blog hosting etc, host it yourself on your computer or use any of the free services (facebook, myspace compared to gmail, hotmail).

      I think the distribution is really important to the future of the web... I'm glad I'm not the only one with that point of view

  5. Tripod was better by torvik · · Score: 0, Troll

    Good riddance, I say.

  6. The Neighborhoods by kingbilly · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My favorite part about Geocities, in 1996, was the themed Neighborhoods. The internet seemed so much smaller back then, like the number of pages could have fit into the multiple neighborhoods of Geocities. RIP Times Square

    1. Re:The Neighborhoods by literaldeluxe · · Score: 2

      Thanks for the good times, Athens/Acropolis. /Is it sad that I still remember my old address?

    2. Re:The Neighborhoods by Hadlock · · Score: 1

      Realm/TimesSquare/4350 bay-bee.
       
      The original site of Kramerica Industries. Or something like that. And then there was another page of the animated gif of the guy walking, stops and pees, but tiled on the background with no text. The early internet was the best.

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    3. Re:The Neighborhoods by nametaken · · Score: 1

      AWWW... I forgot about that! [nostalgia sets in]

      I cut my teeth on html using Geoshitties, 'round 97. What a mess, but god bless the free tinkering space.

    4. Re:The Neighborhoods by Aylanah · · Score: 1

      Vienna/4994

      Do you guys remember the chat rooms? Hard to believe it has been 15 years.

    5. Re:The Neighborhoods by crispin_bollocks · · Score: 1

      I had a Loft in SoHo - the old URL still works, but you can't wander the blocks in the neighborhoods any more, not for a long time. Sad, there was community there. Way to go Yahoo, spend a boatload of cash on the Ur-MySpace, and do......nothing? Had a flat in Corel Towers in Fortune City too!

    6. Re:The Neighborhoods by bryanthompson · · Score: 1

      Area51/Rampart here. Surrounded by other M:TG and Warcraft sites.

    7. Re:The Neighborhoods by Eil · · Score: 5, Interesting

      My favorite part about Geocities, in 1996, was the themed Neighborhoods.

      I had SiliconVally/8043 over a decade ago. Even back then it bothered me that they didn't really do much with the Neighborhood concept other than to categorize sites. I always thought it could have been something that allowed people to network and find others with similar tastes and ideas. Basically a poor-man's version of social networking sites that are all the rage today.

      I've got to be getting old, there were so many really good ideas back then that got about 90% of the way towards the major Internet trends that we see today only to completely fall over into obscurity well before their time.

      The internet seemed so much smaller back then, like the number of pages could have fit into the multiple neighborhoods of Geocities.

      I used to have a copy of the Internet Yellow Pages. A physical book. The same size and shape as a telephone yellow-pages. At the time it was printed, it listed most of the relevant sites devoted to a particular subject and it was actually pretty darn thorough. Most of the URLs back then were .edu, .gov, or .net. Only a few .com and almost no .org. There were a few entries for FTP and Gopher sites scattered here and there as well. Good times. I wonder if I still have that book stashed away somewhere, the Internet was such an incredibly different place back then.

    8. Re:The Neighborhoods by rob1980 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I was in TimesSquare/Arcade myself. For as much as Geocities gets knocked on, back in 1996 that was one of the places a 16 year old kid could get 2MB on the web to call his own. It was my start in writing HTML code and now I'm a full-time web developer. RIP.

    9. Re:The Neighborhoods by seandiggity · · Score: 1

      I cut my teeth on html using Geoshitties, 'round 97. What a mess, but god bless the free tinkering space.

      Same here...I still have a copy of those pages but I don't think they're worth resurrecting...

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    10. Re:The Neighborhoods by Merc248 · · Score: 1

      SiliconValley/Heights here.

      I ran a somewhat popular Mechwarrior 2: Mercenaries site way back when I was ten, and I learned a bit of HTML by tacking on endless lists of crap on a single HTML webpage. It helped me get more into MW2: Mercenaries and helped me learn a lot about HTML (or at least, I can now look at the site and see how long I've come, and how broken everything was back then.)

      This is a little bit off topic, but does anyone remember Clan Nuclear Slug?

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    11. Re:The Neighborhoods by Suchetha · · Score: 1

      thetropics/7666 the website from hell (aka the lucky devil)

      it's gone too. it used to be mentioned on one of the MIT Sinhala pages as a Sinhala language resource on the net.

      Suchetha

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    12. Re:The Neighborhoods by nintendo_is_a_cereal · · Score: 1

      TimesSquare/Arcade/8192 RIP

    13. Re:The Neighborhoods by budcub · · Score: 1

      I used to have a copy of the Internet Yellow Pages. A physical book. The same size and shape as a telephone yellow-pages.

      I still have my copy of that book. I've tossed most other outdated computer books but this one is so quaint, maybe it will be worth something to a historian a decade from now.

    14. Re:The Neighborhoods by Punto · · Score: 1

      Paris/1830
      pretty nice addres, just a place to dump my ms-notepad authored crap (not that my html was bad; it was great, but the content was just crap).. I remember discovering how to hotlink images, javascript, on-line bookmarks..

      I wonder if they relocated those pages when the dropped the "neighborhood" structure.. those files might still live somewhere.

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    15. Re:The Neighborhoods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh yes my old Terminator fan site timessquare/lair/1613 :) Archive.org managed to grab some of it. That site was either built in notepad or a very early version of frontpage 3.0 I was in about 6th grade at the time.

    16. Re:The Neighborhoods by Lavene · · Score: 1

      I had a 'secret' site in /WestHollywood. Must have been in -96 or -97. It was completely harmless but I felt so wonderfully naughty. And of course I used all my webdesigner skills with horrible backgrounds, flashing animated gifs, blue fonts on red background... the works.

    17. Re:The Neighborhoods by bitrex · · Score: 1

      We dialed up to AOL, we chatted in the Town Square chat rooms, we visited Geocities, and then got /con/con punted or crapflooded until our modems disconnected. And then dialed up again. And we liked it!

    18. Re:The Neighborhoods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, they were brilliant. I recall wasting loads of hours in the "Paris Cafe" room, and the "Athens Somethingorother" room. Any former residents here? I also recall they had an HTML-only interface for those of us without browser JVMs. None of this AJAX stuff; no, it just refreshed the page every 5 seconds or whenever you typed something.

    19. Re:The Neighborhoods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Same here. This is a sad day for the Internet. I sent feeback asking them to make it easy to download my whole site as a zip but I doubt they will respond.

    20. Re:The Neighborhoods by archen · · Score: 1

      I think they were trying to move towards social networking, but didn't have an idea of how to do that. As you said they moved people with similar interests together. You could then assume that people would be able to find people with similar interests based on that. All you really need to do is browse your neighborhood or just change the number in the URL bar.

      However that broke down pretty quickly because neighborhood pools were of a given size (4 digits). That's why I ended up in Area51 instead of Tokyo where my page should have been located. Also personal homepages were often rather scatterbrained, and people changed interests over time and pages became dislocated that way. I mean where do you put someone's Xena/Sailor Moon homepage anyway?

      I think that social networking was a concept many were aware of could more tightly nit a "community" but no one really knew how to actually get that community together. They just sort of threw stuff in a pile and hoped it would work itself out - which it usually didn't. With the technology at the time, maybe there wasn't a whole lot they could do.

    21. Re:The Neighborhoods by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      That's because the internet WAS smaller back then

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    22. Re:The Neighborhoods by PHPNerd · · Score: 1

      I was going to post something like the parent. The themed neighborhood ideas was brilliant. It was the first real attempt at community on the internet. I remember they had neighborhood sponsors who you could chat with, they had something akin to "town hall meetings" where everyone in the neighborhood would chat...it was interesting, exciting, invigorating. I couldn't WAIT to get home from school and hop back on my website. As for me, I had a crappy page just like the rest of you in 1997 - my first ever. RIP TimesSquare/Stadium.

    23. Re:The Neighborhoods by WiiVault · · Score: 1

      I bet those are either worth a fortune now or certainly will be in the future.

    24. Re:The Neighborhoods by meyekul · · Score: 1

      Area51/meyekul for me.  I don't remember the numbers I had before I got GeoPlus.  GC was a great place back in the day, I'll always have fond memories of the friends I made in the Area51 chat room.

    25. Re:The Neighborhoods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Basically a poor-man's version of social networking sites that are all the rage today.

      Today's social networking sites are already the poor man's version.

    26. Re:The Neighborhoods by vjoel · · Score: 1

      now I'm a full-time web developer. RIP.

      Surely, being a full-time web developer is not the end of your life?

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    27. Re:The Neighborhoods by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Its a far different world now, where you cant even trust your closest neighbor.

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    28. Re:The Neighborhoods by Amorya · · Score: 1

      I mean where do you put someone's Xena/Sailor Moon homepage anyway?

      TelevisionCity?

  7. Advertisement by enderjsv · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't remember much about Geocities, but I do remember that I absolutely HATED having their advertisements on my page.

    It's funny, though, if you look at MySpace or Facebook now they're absolutely cluttered with flashy, obtrusive advertisements and I don't give it much thought. Guess it goes to show, you can get used to anything.

    1. Re:Advertisement by mackil · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't remember much about Geocities, but I do remember that I absolutely HATED having their advertisements on my page.

      An old trick we used back in the day was to open a noscript tag, but not close it. This kept all the ads from showing up. Of course you couldn't run javascript on it from there, but in 1998, who cared.

    2. Re:Advertisement by techno-vampire · · Score: 2, Insightful
      they're absolutely cluttered with flashy, obtrusive advertisements and I don't give it much thought.

      More likely, you're just using Adblock like most Slashdotters and never even see them.

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    3. Re:Advertisement by dwhitaker · · Score: 1

      I think the difference is this: on Geocities (or other places that host websites) the content is exclusively yours that you want the public to see. On Myspace and Facebook the content is overall design has always been controlled by them and you only insert your content into their framework. Just my $0.02.

    4. Re:Advertisement by kcornia · · Score: 2

      Having never seen an advertisement on FB, I was wondering what the hell the original post was talking about on Facebook. Your mention of AdBlock clears it up though, thanks AdBlock!

    5. Re:Advertisement by Z80xxc! · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Ads? What ads?

      Oh... right, not everybody uses adblock.

    6. Re:Advertisement by enderjsv · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but the point was, I didn't want other people who visited my page to see these ads. I wasn't bothered that I would see these ads on other people's pages. It bothered me that I couldn't control everything people saw on my page. Adblock is great, but only a small handful of people use it.

    7. Re:Advertisement by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      That's what you get when you use a free hosting service; after all, they have to get their revenue from somewhere. However, if you're willing to spend a little money, take a look at the service mentioned in my .sig. It's worked fine for me for several years now, as well as a number of my friends. YMMV, of course.

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    8. Re:Advertisement by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      The Geocities ads were why I started running the Proxomitron as my ad filter in the first place. Amazingly, even without updates it's gotten more effective over time: since its Javascript ad filter is fairly broad, and everyone uses Javascript to serve ads these days, I couldn't tell you how much advertising the typical Myspacer or Facebook page has.

      (I couldn't have used AdBlock instead: this predates Phoenix itself, much less the addons that have made it popular.)

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    9. Re:Advertisement by linzeal · · Score: 1

      I have a second cousin who just saw ads on the web when he went to school and they would not let him use his laptop. He got so frustrated he tore the mouse out of the back of the computer, got suspended, barred from using computers for a year at school and his parents had to pay 400 dollars for a new computer. I wonder how many kids of geeks like us have never seen ads on the internet or ads on TV do to Tivo and such are going to change the dynamics of advertising? It already seems like most ads on TV are to people who either do not have enough money to have a TIVO or too old to care.

    10. Re:Advertisement by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More likely, you're just using Adblock like most Slashdotters and never even see them.

      By odds, sure. All I use though is Flashblock and disabling just annoying javascript features not the whole thing, basically the stuff that can actually get in my way but leaving whatever degree of visually obtrusive ads remain. I can really just block them out 99% of the time, not even registering them. Largely from browsing the web in that time before enlightened browsers, but after animated gifs.

      I remember reading on /. many years ago about a study where people try to find information on some websites, and consistently fail to see the giant gaudy supposedly eye-catching graphics telling them exactly what they want to know, instead busily scanning the web site's text. Heh, seemed about right to me, when I'm trying to find something specific I don't even see the bright flashing shit that seems designed to catch my eye.

      For that last 1%, I'll admit I also have Nuke Anything, which is also nice for fixing broken web pages where a sidebar will mis-render and block an article and such.

      I'll

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    11. Re:Advertisement by Magic5Ball · · Score: 1

      Internet Junkbuster since 1996.

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    12. Re:Advertisement by LiquidFire_HK · · Score: 1

      At some point you could put this at the end of your HTML file: <xml><noembed> . It would get rid of the ads completely (at least on IE).

    13. Re:Advertisement by maxume · · Score: 1

      I haven't used them, but NearlyFreeSpeech.NET looks pretty cheap:

      https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/

      (They don't support FCGI or any sort of persistent processes, but for static content with only a few readers, the price is hard to beat)

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    14. Re:Advertisement by archen · · Score: 2, Informative

      That was actually a fun arms race I can recall. First it started with noscript, but then they started closing noscript tag if found - for at least a month you could do noscript twice and it still blocked the popup. You could also put <!-- at the end for a while too. Eventually you ended up putting all sorts of crazy garbage at the end in an attempt to break the popup window while geocities would try to figure out how to unbreak it, but most people had long given up before that.

    15. Re:Advertisement by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      But myspace allows users to fuck the frame work, whereas facebook's framework is fixed.

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    16. Re:Advertisement by dwhitaker · · Score: 1

      The tools utilized by the service though (the adding of friends, messaging, groups, etc.) remains the same in Myspace though regardless of what "aesthetic enhancements" people put on their pages. The functionality takes precedence over form.

    17. Re:Advertisement by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh man, NO WAY! That's the most useful information I'll never get to use.

      You know how many hours I search altavista for "free web hosting no ads"? Angelfire was the way to go for a while...

    18. Re:Advertisement by Reziac · · Score: 1

      When I had a GeoShitties site, way back in about 1997 or 98, you had to pick your preferred ads for your page. So I picked... none. So my page got a very funny placeholder box instead.

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    19. Re:Advertisement by cffrost · · Score: 1

      I'll

      FROST to BURKE, say again all after "I'll," over.

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    20. Re:Advertisement by Chris+Burke · · Score: 1

      That must have been an echo from "For that last 1%, I'll admit I also have Nuke Anything".

      Given the time delta, I'm guessing it bounced off the end of a cut cable in Canada.

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  8. Meh.. by Anrego · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For all the griping people do.. it wasn't that bad

    And it's visual design tool really was amazing.

    Users didn't need to worry about arranging stuff into tables.. you could just drag your graphic where ever you wanted .. or put text anywhere.. etc.

    Sure, it let a lot of garbage leak onto the Internet.. but it also let people with something interesting to contribute an easy way of doing so.

    And lets face it.. was the output of a geocities website designed with the visual designer that much different than most of the myspace pages you see? (that isn't an endorsement for myspace..). If you have interesting content.. the design matters a lot less (and again.. not saying that myspace contains interesting content).

    1. Re:Meh.. by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      It was the advertising that really sucked. You maybe could have built a decent looking page, but then you have this huge floating ugly thing kind of in the middle of it. Maybe it would have been tolerable if they'd made it a small frame at the bottom or something, but as it was, the advertising made every page look worse.

      Geocities is still the number 2 search result on Google if you do a search for "free web page"

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    2. Re:Meh.. by TinBromide · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think that a lot of the early wikipedia contributors came from the non-crap geocities authors. (back when it had more information about the star wars universe than it had about the real life space universe) While we don't miss that time period, (well, i do), I think that the urge to contribute to the internet (via geocities) was the same urge that created and grew wikipedia and web 2.0.

      If I had to write Geocities eulogy, it would be: "Geocities paved the way for Web 2.0"

      Take from that what you will, a lot of web 2.0 was "Hey! Look at me!" type crap that we equate with myspace, youtube, and Web 2.0, it was the original place where someone could contribute to the internet for free.

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    3. Re:Meh.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Only Geocities catered to interesting conent. See, people get a myspace page for the predefined purpose of it: social networking. I'd say 99% of people on myspace do not care about content, just how many friends they have or how many stupid twitter-type comments are on their "wall." (Twitter is ridiculously stupid in my opinion too.)
      Now notice that you could make both a myspace type page and/or a twitter type page on Geocities. Geocities wasn't limiting in scope whatsoever. You coulda made a comment "wall," or had a twitter type comment posting system. Geocities welcomed all, and was exclusionary in purpose. If you had an idea of something possibly good for the intrawebs, put it on Geocities. Good luck with that kinda of versatility on crap sites like myspace and twitter though!

  9. Too Bad by nmb3000 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    As somebody who learned HTML and Javascript with GeoCities, that's really too bad. Yes, GeoCities is the home of the stereotypical mid 90's "home page" with animated gifs and background MIDI music but I still occasionally come across very worthwhile information on GeoCities via Google and in terms of reliable free hosting with pretty unobtrusive ads it was pretty good. It seems somewhat rash to just shut it down outright.

    I wonder if there isn't some way they could just take a snapshot of the domain as it is right now, and then keep that online. Give site owners the ability to delete their site, but no longer allow editing or uploading. That would be pretty low maintenance and certainly they still receive ad revenue from it, but maybe not enough to cover costs.

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    1. Re:Too Bad by zlogic · · Score: 1

      I think most interesting Geocities pages are already backed up to http://web.archive.org/

    2. Re:Too Bad by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

      I wonder if there isn't some way they could just take a snapshot of the domain as it is right now, and then keep that online.

      Archive.org maybe? I can't imagine Geocities can have created more than a few TB of data, and I'd not be surprised to hear that the figure is lower than that. Considering that the Wayback Machine is apparently indexing 100TB/month of new data, having Yahoo send them a dump of Geocities would surely be a drop in the bucket.

    3. Re:Too Bad by x78 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      As somebody who learned HTML and Javascript with GeoCities

      I must say I remember Geocities being one of the easiest ways to get on the web,
      This was back when I was about 8 years old, learning HTML, buying shared hosting, writing a website, etc were far beyond me back then.
      So in that way at least Geocities was a good thing :)

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    4. Re:Too Bad by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 1

      I, too, used GeoCities to learn how to use HTML effectively, in the days before Yahoo took it over. I also learned a lot about what does not work on a web site by browsing GeoCities' neighborhoods. I'm sure I put up my share of junk as well... there was a large animated gif of some 50-odd images that was not one of my better ideas...

      At that time, GeoCities was a grand resource for those of us trying to learn web technology on Win3.11, with no possibility of setting up a local server or anything like that. And to have TWO MEGABYTES of online usage for nothing but putting up with an ad! Wow!

      I had to give up my GeoCities a few months after Yahoo took over. I had a Yahoo account, and a GeoCities account, and somehow the two got fatally entangled, so that I lost effective access to either of them. That was sad. I had developed an interactive colorwheel thingee that would generate assorted palettes based on color theory that was fun and kind of useful. It developed fatal bit rot before I found another host for it. So sad.

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    5. Re:Too Bad by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Yes, GeoCities is the home of the stereotypical mid 90's "home page" with animated gifs and background MIDI music

      No, that was the late-90s :-) The stereotypical *mid*-90s home page had a plain background (*), a few sparse horizontal inline images (with some server-side mapping if you were lucky), ten tons of text on a single long page and the owner's list of "useful" general-purpose websites (back when the web was small enough that this wasn't a laughable concept).

      Geocities' rise probably marked the dividing line between the early-to-mid-90s era of the early web and the late-90s commercialisation, IMHO.

      (*) Coloured possibly, but more likely the default white, or- as the default background was on some early browsers- grey. Why grey?!

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  10. An old saying... by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Funny

    The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.

    Prodigy tried the flashy nasty ad thing before AOL and was pulverized for it. AOL made a whole business plan around it.

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  11. hmm. familiar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Awful, eye-punishing graphics, lack of relevancy, and 'lowest-common-denominator design' are believed to have contributed to it's demise."

    Sounds like myspace

  12. Progress? by clinko · · Score: 5, Funny

    GeoCities:
    Learn HTML, post Animated Gifs, Blare Midis

    MySpace:
    post Animated Gifs, Blare Mp3s

    YouTube:
    Blare "Animated" Videos with Sound

    Twitter:
    Blare

    1. Re:Progress? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I want this on a t-shirt

    2. Re:Progress? by Bieeanda · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yes, we're finally getting that annoying 'signal' out of our noise.

  13. good riddance to bad rubbish by gadabyte · · Score: 4, Interesting

    i hosted my first website, a WW II history site, on geocities - before the ad requirements got out of hand. when their ads got completely obnoxious, i asked for a way to keep the ad in a top frame, or any way to keep it from covering my content, but was told to pony up cash.

    random ads over WW II pictures, especially some of the pictures of fallen soldiers I had up, didn't sit well with me - so I ponied up cash for a real webhost, and didn't look back.

    perhaps i'm just too good at holding a grudge, but i'm glad they're dead.

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    1. Re:good riddance to bad rubbish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      especially some of the pictures of fallen soldiers I had up, didn't sit well with me...perhaps i'm just too good at holding a grudge, but i'm glad they're dead.

      The beauty of context.

    2. Re:good riddance to bad rubbish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The increasingly obnoxious advertising killed Geocities along with Wikipedia. For a while it was /the/ place to put information for people who weren't ready to plunge into hosting payments & learn code, and the Web benefitted.

      Oh, and personal pages hosted by universities. Almost forgot those. I used to get a great amount of tech HowTo's etc from those before the Great Purge around 2000 when the dot-com crash caused a lot of universities to clear out pages by former staff and students.

    3. Re:good riddance to bad rubbish by gadabyte · · Score: 2, Interesting

      *cringe*

      that's some pretty awful englishfail.

      oh, that button below says "preview," not "impatiently wait for submit button to appear." now i get it.

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    4. Re:good riddance to bad rubbish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wikipedia has ads?

    5. Re:good riddance to bad rubbish by Skuldo · · Score: 1

      Yeh, all those bloody donation drives and election campaign banners.

    6. Re:good riddance to bad rubbish by jmcbain · · Score: 0, Troll

      If you didn't want the advertisements, why didn't you just PAY money to get a hosted service? Oh, that's right, you're a cheap hypocrite bastard. You go screw yourself.

    7. Re:good riddance to bad rubbish by gadabyte · · Score: 1

      If you didn't want the advertisements, why didn't you just PAY money to get a hosted service? Oh, that's right, you're a cheap hypocrite bastard. You go screw yourself.

      random ads over WW II pictures, especially some of the pictures of fallen soldiers I had up, didn't sit well with me - so I ponied up cash for a real webhost, and didn't look back.

      hey, how 'bout that!

      final score...
      cheap hypocrite bastard: 1
      vapid, vitriolic, foot-in-mouth bastard: 0

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    8. Re:good riddance to bad rubbish by Bigby · · Score: 1

      that post was +5 insightful, +5 informative, and +5 funny at the same time. kudos

  14. Well, netcraft stats by G00F · · Score: 1

    Wow, MS must like it when ever someone running a lot of *nix(FreeBSD) servers switches to Windows or in this case, drops out. Now they can report being more successful because they own a larger percentage of websites.

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  15. Archive.org by psyclone · · Score: 1

    The Wayback machine has a pretty good snapshots of GeoShitties

    1. Re:Archive.org by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      In my experiance the wayback machine only archives stuff beyond a certain level of popularity and sometimes it gets the homepage but not the important stuff e.g. http://web.archive.org/web/20071002152623/http://www.geocities.com/vampyrdarla/frame.htm has the homepage but none of the pages with the real information.

      I've tried to provoke it into collecting the rest of the site on the next run. I'm also trying to archive it locally but it seems my recursive wget has triggered service temporerally unavilible errors before it got quite the whole site.

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    2. Re:Archive.org by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1

      The concept of archiving the entire internet is still reasonably new, what capacity will it need to still function the same in 10, 20 or 50 years from now? Given the exponential rate of new content created, a lot of it high bandwidth audio / video there has to be a limit somewhere. From what I understand, it's a US govt funded service, which means it's funding may be under threat at some point in the future, depending on the economic situation and the politicians / lobbyists in charge. At some point do they have to change the rules on what they archive to save capacity or allow one of their campaign donors the chance to make money from offering the same service with the competition crippled?

      The other elephant in the room as far as long term archiving is concerned, is proprietary file formats. What good is a file on an archived website if the company who made the only application went bankrupt 10 years ago so the last PC to be able to run it was Windows ME. Compatibility mode / visualization only takes you so far. M$ Office formats are a special note as they are so common. In 20 years are you expected to have a copy of EVERY edition of M$ Office on your PC (including all those M$ no longer fix exploits to) just so you can open a .doc created years ago and now found on an obscure archived website.

    3. Re:Archive.org by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What good is a file on an archived website if the company who made the only application went bankrupt 10 years ago so the last PC to be able to run it was Windows ME.

      It's like Rule 34. For every obsolete application, piece of hardware, or system, somewhere there's some son of a bitch who picked one up at a flea market wants to find drivers for it to see how it worked.

      I recently found a '486-class machine in the dumpster. It was in a small form factor case and had 8-bit ISA slots. I threw a spare CF-IDE adaptor into it and an obsolete 32MB CF card. It now boots off solid-state disk and the whole thing's passively cooled.

      I was going to use it as the platform for a stone-age EPROM burner that's so old it can still burn bipolar PROMs. But it's also the perfect platform for an obsolete DOS-based "answering machine/voice mail/phone tree" phone card that I picked up at the electronic flea market. Took me about an hour to figure out how set up a "choose your own adventure" game in voicemail. Pretty neat. The original thing was designed for '286-class hardware in the late 80s.

      I've still got the floppies for the EPROM burner, but it saved me hours of rummaging through the basement trying to find the storage box that contained the floppies. The other thing was so obsolete I had to google for it, and holy crap, it's all still out there. OK, so the guy wasn't hosting it on GeoCities, but it had last been updated six years ago, but it was still there.

      For people who just like to play with computers, it's not just useful to have abandoned websites, it's invaluable.

    4. Re:Archive.org by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      Compatibility mode / visualization only takes you so far.
      Virtualisation takes you quite a long way, for even older stuff emulation takes over.

      In 20 years are you expected to have a copy of EVERY edition of M$ Office on your PC (including all those M$ no longer fix exploits to) just so you can open a .doc created years ago and now found on an obscure archived website.
      My experiance is that office generally manages to open older documents though some of the formatting may be a bit screwy and I think you may have to manually reenable the converters that ms considers "insecure" to read some really old stuff.

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    5. Re:Archive.org by AnalPerfume · · Score: 1

      This is true as far as it goes, but each different M$ Office has a different undocumented implementation of their formats, it's only been on sale for 14 years too, with about 8 different versions released in that time. What happens 20, 30, 40 years from now? How many different editions of M$ Office will there be then? Will M$ even exist as a corporation by then? The way they are behaving and karma coming back to bite them in the ass it's very unlikely. Even if they are, they use stuff like this to force people to upgrade / pay for the new version. They WANT incompatibilities to "entice" the customer into giving them more money for essentially the same thing they already paid for. When the next edition of M$ Office comes with no support for Word '95 .doc can users create it themselves? If it were open source they could, but as it's not, they are reliant on the good will of the people who own the code.

      The general point is that as far as we've come so far in computing, open and closed source; we are still at infancy with what is possible. The better tech we get, the more we can build on it and improve it (patent trolls permitting). Services like archive.org are great in theory and motive but is it viable long term? Proprietary stuff certainly makes the task less productive.

    6. Re:Archive.org by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      When the next edition of M$ Office comes with no support for Word '95 .doc can users create it themselves?
      In principle they probablly could, while MS office isn't open source it does have quite a number of ways to programatically interact with it and i'm positive the word 95 format has been reverese engineered.

      Getting the formatting exactly right is HARD with a word processor document because you have to exactly clone the behavoiour of the layout engine to do that. Getting the important data out isn't generally anywhere near as much of a problem.

      Still I think in general word processor documents are lousy as an archival format. I belive any format that both tries to preserve exact layout and retain editability is fundamentally fragile.

      If you want to preserve content and basic formatting in an editable way use rtf or html or similar. If you want to preserve exact layout use pdf.

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  16. Speak for yourself by pimpimpim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I hate the guts out of myspace and facebook. Seriously. There is no content. For example, I search for a new 'hip' band, so they only have a myspace page. Now, try to find the band biography or past tourdates. You won't find it. Instead, you will see a list of pictures of 'friends' of the band, about whom you couldn't care less. In that respect, Geocities actuallý was better, because at least you had a chance (even if it was small) of finding useful information there.

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    1. Re:Speak for yourself by DavidD_CA · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's the band's fault if their MySpace/Facebook page doesn't have any good information, tour dates, or anything else that might be useful.

      I've seend plenty of excellent band pages. Unfortunately, the sucky ones outweigh the good ones, but don't blame MySpace.

      (There's plenty of other things to hate MySpace for.)

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    2. Re:Speak for yourself by Just+Justin · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'd say Myspace has been a great thing for local bands. It's extremely easy to hear a few of their songs and sample their music, and it's also extremely easy to see when they'll be playing a show and where.

      Myspace isn't really designed for them to hold a long boring biography or a history of their tour dates. It also doesn't have a nice section for them to sell their merchandise either like t-shirts and cd's. Also a forum / message board is missing for fans to talk with each other.

      I think myspace is more like a sampler of the band, and if you want more info or want to buy stuff, then they're supposed to link you to their official website somewhere on there. But like you said, most of the time the myspace page is their only website.

    3. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are no new popular bands worth listening to. If you dig deep enough, you're bound to find a few gems.

    4. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is just ignorant flamebait, to be honest. You mean that you haven't bothered to actually look for good new music in the last 10+ years, and that's somewhat legitimate in and of itself - if you find that you have "enough" music in your life and don't want to discover new talent, that's your prerogative. But to claim that all new bands in the last 15 years are crap just shows that you haven't even put in the minimal effort to use the countless new websites built purely to discover artists that suit your tastes, and are then making sweeping assertions based on that lack of effort.

    5. Re:Speak for yourself by Malc · · Score: 1

      Myspace has been very good for checking out a friend's recommendation before buying a CD. The samples bands put up are way better than the 30s clips from Amazon.com. The rest is just wasted bandwidth. Facebook is very good for keeping in touch with people in other ways, if you have a set of friends that use it like that and aren't mindlessly throwing sheep at you, etc.

    6. Re:Speak for yourself by jaxtherat · · Score: 1

      Some of the bands that I've recently discovered only announce their gigs by posting it on their myspace page, where it quickly gets obliterated by the 'thanks for the add! xoxox' crap. Even worse, some have the bizarre practice of announcing their gigs to people only on their friends list :/

      Eugh.

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    7. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quite simply, no good new band has started out after around 1994.

      Judging from this comment, I'd say you're in your early thirties. Congratulations! You're old and no longer relevant!

    8. Re:Speak for yourself by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Possibly, but they're unlikely to be hanging out on MySpace.

    9. Re:Speak for yourself by adolf · · Score: 1

      Right. So, they're not very hip, and they don't play much outside of local bars and animal clubs. But here is a band that does want you want with Myspace.

      It's not impossible.

    10. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are plenty of bands these days worth listening to. But you won't hear them on the radio. You've got to dig. Get a last.fm account or something. Try Deerhunter, Of Montreal, and Animal Collective for starters.

      Also I find it funny that you bring up, of all things, American Idol in support of your argument.

      The people who claim "there's no good music after year X" are just as ignorant as those who say that Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, David Bowie, and The Beatles are trash because their music is "too old".

    11. Re:Speak for yourself by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying that American Idol is good, I'm pointing out that even there, on a show that you think would cater to pop fans, that most of the songs are really quite old, from "classic" bands, and not that many new ones.

      There's nothing ignorant about saying "there's very little good music after year X", because it's true. There was lots of great music (and fairly popular too) in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s, and early 90s (you even pointed out many of the great bands from those times). What happened in the 90s, and worse yet, 00s? You claim there's lots of good bands, but you have to dig for them, such as using last.fm (and actually, I've found a few myself that way). But what happened to good ol' mainstream music? People didn't seem to have much trouble identifying good music back in the 60s or 70s, and making it popular, with bands like Floyd, Bowie, etc. So why is it different now?

      It's not ignorant to point out that things are fundamentally different. I blame it on the record companies and their unholy alliance with the radio industry. However, change might be coming: ClearChannel looks like it's headed for bankruptcy, with a giant debt load and low advertising revenues.

    12. Re:Speak for yourself by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      Don't forget, you also find an unending amount of pictures of "Cool fans that got our logo tattooed on their [ass,arm,leg,ankle,back,forehead,penis,tooth,armpit,nipple,kidney,hair-plugs] which makes them so unique!"

    13. Re:Speak for yourself by bskin · · Score: 1

      And you don't think you're cherry picking the bands from earlier decades a bit? I mean, there were a lot of shit bands in the 50s, too. And there were also plenty of good bands that weren't very popular.

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    14. Re:Speak for yourself by Toonol · · Score: 1

      Yeah, While I get a certain nostalgic buzz listening to music from the 80's, it's very clear to me that it was mostly crap.

      That doesn't mean that we're not in a low point as regards the quality of popular music... I think it's clear that we are. That's very different than saying there's NO good new popular bands.

      Personally, I've been listening more and more to soundtracks. There's a lot of unique and interesting, genre-mixing composition going on today in movies, TV, and videogames. Neat mixes of classical and modern. Track down the soundtrack for "The Fountain", for instance.

    15. Re:Speak for yourself by bazorg · · Score: 1

      I see where you're getting. Back then people would have a very limited space to write stuff for the world to see, and that was exactly what they would do. Now there's 10 different ways for each of the millions of users to interact with everyone, and they (well, we) use those means to "blog" immediate messages, then to "tweet" them, or to show the icon that more closely represents our mood. It's a good thing that there's room on the internet for everyone, every taste and different levels of verboseness. I'll keep reading Slashdot for the +5 Funnies.

    16. Re:Speak for yourself by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

      Facebook's content is people.

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    17. Re:Speak for yourself by LizardKing · · Score: 1

      Just had this happen with a Canadian band called Propagandhi. I was checking there proper website regularly, as I knew they'd be touring after their new album came out. Next thing I know, the album's out and they are on tour in the UK that week. Their website was updated a week before, and the dates only announced in advance on fucking Myspace.

    18. Re:Speak for yourself by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      (There's plenty of other things to hate MySpace for.)

      Like the users, for example.

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    19. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      However, change might be coming: ClearChannel looks like it's headed for bankruptcy, with a giant debt load and low advertising revenues.

      There too big to fail. Change we can believe in, uh huh.

    20. Re:Speak for yourself by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      You've got a point there. With Obama/Biden's strong ties to the RIAA and copyright lobby, they'll probably want to bail out ClearChannel so that their executives can enjoy large bonuses and they can throw lavish parties, and also spend taxpayer money on lobbying.

    21. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Biden supporting copyright, isn't that ironic!

    22. Re:Speak for yourself by Altus · · Score: 1

      sure, there was a lot of crap, but did you really have to dig deep to find Led Zeplin or U2?

      If I need a map and a sextant to find good music that's being made in this decade, then it is reasonable to say that there is a problem.

      Ive found a few good bands from digging or from friends who did the digging for me, but I don't think you had to do that in the past. Sure, there was good counter culture music, but there was also good mainstream, top 40s music.

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    23. Re:Speak for yourself by Altus · · Score: 1

      Seems like there is a market opportunity for a band oriented networking site. Something that gives you what Myspace does but without all the crap that has nothing to do with the band plus some basic merchandising abilities.

      If only networking sites inter-operated so you could see updates about your favorite band on your own myFace page.

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      "In America, first you get the sugar, then you get the power, then you get the women..." -H. Simpson

    24. Re:Speak for yourself by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      I hate the guts out of myspace and facebook. Seriously. There is no content. [..] In that respect, Geocities actuallý was better, because at least you had a chance (even if it was small) of finding useful information there.

      MySpace and Facebook are social networking sites, whereas Geocities was really "my first web hosting". The former aren't that good for detailed reference information because... well, that's not what they were intended for. They're not- and were never meant to be- general purpose successors to Geocities. The part they've taken over from is the static-background, sparkly/colour-clash "best BF in the WORLD!!!" type Geocities sites.

      There are more appropriate places and tools on the web for creating- and finding- "harder" reference sites. Despite their popularity, MySpace and Facebook aren't the be all and end all!

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    25. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quite simply, no good new band has started out after around 1994.

      I heard the nearly the exact same thing 10 years ago, except it that the cut off year was around the '80s (and still hear that the cut off year was around '70s). Also, American Idol? I know you've already responded, but that's just enough to warrant your "Troll" moderation.

    26. Re:Speak for yourself by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seend plenty of excellent band pages

      ... and they that can not spell, choose to defend MySpace.

      It's rotting your brain!!

      Because it sucks.

  17. First members.aol.com and now this by JewGold · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where will we go for our fix of lousy, horribly formatted websites from 1997?

    I feel bad for this sucker:

    WHAT A SHAMBLES & A POOR SHOW. NO ONE WANTS TO KNOW EITHER. FORTUNATELY I SAVED MY WEBPAGE & TRANSFERRED IT TO GEOCITIES.

    Link Here: http ://geocities.yahoo.com/v/gcp_choose/

    Real easy to do a simple webpage. With more time I think this could be better than aol.

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  18. Yahoo business acumen? by fishthegeek · · Score: 1
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    1. Re:Yahoo business acumen? by fm6 · · Score: 4, Funny

      You slashdotted Geocities! Most impressive!

    2. Re:Yahoo business acumen? by siriuskase · · Score: 1

      I learned a new word today:

                phenocopterophile

      follow link in parent if you want to know this word, too.

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  19. Re:hmm. familiar by neokushan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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  20. While most here are going to rag on Geocities ... by phoxix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'd like to thank 'em giving even the tiniest bit of free webspace when nobody else did.

    The reason we cann all remember Geocities was because there was neat stuff on it!!! Geocities was home to all the quirky people who had all sorts of goodies to post on the web, and no other means to do so.

  21. XOOM by TypoNAM · · Score: 1

    I had my first website on XOOM, anybody remember them? Yes the company that tried to make a living by selling clip art and animated gifs. Unfortunately they always had a robots.txt file that denied web crawlers access to members.xoom.com which means everybody, including me, who had a website on XOOM wasn't archived by the wayback machine. :(

    They were eventually partnered or bought by NBC to have iNBC.com of which died within soon after without warning and everything was lost. Well if you can even call it a loss. Yet another example as to why webmasters must ensure to keep a backup of their web sites on their local machine and/or by other means.

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    1. Re:XOOM by Moderator · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Yeah, I remember Xoom, along with Tripod, Angelfire, and Geocities, probably more that I'm missing, but they made up the bulk of personal webpages in the late 90's. If you got your site listed in the Yahoo Web Directory, everything was GOLDEN. There was a redirect service, w3.to, which provided short links to your pages. I ran an abandonware site at xoom, called Softcity or something like that, which provided zip files of Prince of Persia, Wolfenstein, Line Wars 2, Turbo Pascal, WFW 3.11, etc. Good times; unfortunately, I can't look it up on the web archive because robots.txt was blocked =/

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    2. Re:XOOM by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      I remember xoom, didn't they give us 500MB or something HUGE by the standard of the day.

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    3. Re:XOOM by zoomosis · · Score: 1

      Xoom gave you 100 MB to use, which was a lot at the time. Great for hosting image galleries.

      From memory, Geocities had a 10 MB limit, and Fortunecity 20 MB.

  22. Simulating the internet of the 90s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The other day I decided to simulate the internet of the 90s by using linux traffic control modules to limit throughput to around 5Kbps and reading Geocities, and lycos.

    It actually reminded me of the days when you would go do something else while your webpages loaded.

  23. Jesusx by religious+freak · · Score: 1

    WOW... Jesusx.

    First time I've ever heard of it. Interesting, and definitely unique... I never would've thought of such a thing as a "Christian" based OS. I wonder if they ever got it off the ground.

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    1. Re:Jesusx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't worry about it. They're just building another walled garden to hide in. Which is nice of them -- maybe they'll stop coming to my door and harassing me.

      The hierarchical users sounds interesting, though. Is that new or did they get it somewhere?

    2. Re:Jesusx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, I never truly appreciated Anonymous Coward before this. So anyone can just say whatever they want and not worry about whether the subjects will come knocking on your door?

      Oh, wait.

    3. Re:Jesusx by daranz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      You've obviously never heard of either the now defunct Ubuntu Christian Edition or the Ubuntu Muslim Edition.

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    4. Re:Jesusx by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As it's a hoax it appears from your response that they did quite well :)

    5. Re:Jesusx by FelixNZ · · Score: 1

      Parent has been modded down, but this is actually insightful (albeit off topic, sorry for the rant), and dangerously accurate of a lot of Christians I know (being a dissalusioned one myself) The ones who stay in the Christian cliques, sending their kids to Christian Schools and only listening/reading their Christian media, yet are so outspoken on secular world issues, without it seems, ever having been in it.

    6. Re:Jesusx by retchdog · · Score: 1

      For a while, there actually was a Ubuntu Christian Edition. It came with some Bible software and a custom gui for dansguardian (web filtering). And the standard brown ubuntu color scheme, except with an added Jesus.

      http://ubuntuce.com/screenshots.htm

      Looks like they ran out of steam though, and decided instead to focus on a Jesus/youtube mashup: thejesustv.com

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    7. Re:Jesusx by Joren · · Score: 1

      Parent has been modded down, but this is actually insightful (albeit off topic, sorry for the rant), and dangerously accurate of a lot of Christians I know (being a dissalusioned one myself) The ones who stay in the Christian cliques, sending their kids to Christian Schools and only listening/reading their Christian media, yet are so outspoken on secular world issues, without it seems, ever having been in it.

      Uh, as far as I can tell parent has not been modded at all. He or she simply posted as Anonymous, which means their default moderation is 0.

      Back on topic though: being a Christian myself, I'm not particularly fond of the Christian walled garden approach to life. It creates a dangerous disconnection between the "faithful" and the world they say they want to change for the better. How disturbing it is to first intentionally make oneself ignorant about things outside the garden, and then blindly try to influence them.

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  24. Re:While most here are going to rag on Geocities . by entervazda · · Score: 1

    I remember Geocities, I hosted my first site there for 6 years. They can make fun all they want, Geocities was great.

  25. I was there when GeoCities was acquired by rizzo5 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I was working at yahoo in the early days and I got the job of working to integrate the stuff geocities was doing with some of our stuff. The moment I met them I was convinced these were the wrong sort of people to be working for yahoo. They developed on Windows by Crom! When anyone asks when yahoo started going downhill I point to the GeoCities acquisition.

    1. Re:I was there when GeoCities was acquired by vjoel · · Score: 1

      They developed on Windows by Crom!

      I always develop by Crom. It's the most cromulent IDE on Windows.

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  26. Making a backup by rishistar · · Score: 1

    If like me you want to make a backup of your site but only had the free account sans FTP httrack may be useful.

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  27. This Comment Is Still Under Construction by meehawl · · Score: 4, Funny

    <blink>This Comment Is Still Under Construction</blink>
    (yes, even after 15 years)

    And this is a spinning GIF logo. Your browser is just too tasteful to display it.

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    1. Re:This Comment Is Still Under Construction by Explodicle · · Score: 1
      Your browser is just too tasteful to display it.

      Bullshit! I'm still running IE6!

  28. Re:While most here are going to rag on Geocities . by Wuhao · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ain't it the truth. Geocities attracted some of the most eye-gougingly terrible amateur designs, but shit, a lot of those people went on to lose the colorblindness, but kept the technical know-how they gained with their first little hobby site. I certainly did.

  29. Say what you wil... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but i just recently helped a friend of mine to prevent his university from kicking everyone out for this coming sunner with an online petition placed on geocities. Yhe page got 3 hits, all from the media, and within 12 hrs of the site being up, it was longer needed. we had won the war... now! onto Hollywood! March on the RIAA, for geocities will rise again, like a pheonix... seriously, how much would the domain go for these days? I got 5 on it.

  30. so long and thank you by hagnat · · Score: 1

    its atrocious to go there now, but geocities was THE Thing back in the '90s. Learned a lot with it, learned a lot from it. So long, and thank you...

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  31. Re:While most here are going to rag on Geocities . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Not to mention the fact that back then the web was NEW to so many people! Shiny, fascinating and NEW! I had a page that listed my comic art collection. Many of the guy's fans contacted me thanking me for it. I became obsessed with tracking down and documenting EVERY, SINGLE, SOLITARY thing that he'd ever had published. The artist actually contacted me and asked if he could mirror it on his site when he got one a couple of years later. He actually said that he didn't remember half of the items on the list.

    And there were lots of people like me on Geocities. Our pages didn't have to be good, they had to be the BEST. That fascination seems to have died off quite a bit in the past decade.

    It saddens me to see the silver lining go down the drain with the rest of the cloud.

  32. Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 2

    I have a few websites on Geocities because it is a free web hosting solution. Anyone have a suggestion as to where I should go?

    1. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Paco103 · · Score: 1

      I moved to fortunecity.com years ago. Never actually had a geocities account. They were offering 100MB when I signed up, now they are offering 1GB. They also offer FTP access. My site has been on there untouched for over 10 years. The ads are a little obtrusive at times though. Back in the day it was just a single standard banner.

    2. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try x10 hosting, Dreamhost Apps, or Blogger depending on what your needs are.

    3. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Admiral_Grinder · · Score: 1
    4. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.110mb.com/ - Awesome space/No ads or other codes
      http://www.000webhost.com/ - Host your domain FREE (PHP)

      Both free, both great!

    5. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by adolf · · Score: 3, Informative

      Free? As in beer? What do you want, another Geocities?

      Try Dreamhost. Not free, but totally not-sucky for the price, IMHO. Includes a Linux shell, if you're into that sort of thing, and a fair bit of space that you can use for backups of your own files.

      Been with them for years; still getting used to the whole "buy now, we bill you, and then you pay your bill sometime later" philosophy, which seems to be totally lacking in this field.

      (Note to mods: I'd be spamming if I posted a referral link to Dreamhost. I, however, did no such thing.)

    6. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mysite (owned by Netzero) and Google Sites are among the living and well. Tripod still clings to life, but who knows for how much longer.

    7. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brinkster.com is better!

    8. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's Byethost (correct spelling), but I haven't used it myself. An associate recommend it in case my current host (000webhost) had problems.

      They are both free, but both have paid services as well.

    9. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by White+Flame · · Score: 3, Informative

      nearlyfreespeech.net. It's not free, but it costs only pennies and you don't have to endure any garbage. You get CGI in all sorts of nice functional languages, shell script access, and nice tools.

    10. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Peeet · · Score: 2, Informative

      Google "Google Sites"

    11. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given the content on the majority of Geocities hosted pages... MySpace?

    12. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Johnny00 · · Score: 0

      Is your google broke? jeez. dime a dozen.

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    13. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Awardspace or deluxehost are pretty good free webhosts. In particular, I've had an awardspace webby running for over 2 years with no major hassles. No ads either. Google a bit, there are others just as good, from what i've heard.

    14. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      It looks like DreamHost is offering two years of their hosting free to GeoCities users:

      http://blog.dreamhost.com/2009/04/24/theyre-internet-history/

      There's an interesting story about the history of WebRing there too.

    15. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by mooterSkooter · · Score: 1
      Yes, I've seen them:

      http://www.geocities.com/james_sager2/

      and

      http://www.geocities.com/james_sager_PA/

      this one dissapeared:

      http://www.contrib.andrew.cmu.edu/~sager/

      but it's still on archive.org

      Fascinating stuff James, to a clinical psychologist maybe!

      Yes, move your 'crazy' pages - there must be loads of free hosting out there. In fact, that's quite apt - the internet NEEDS sites like yours! I'm fascinated anyway - did you ever build your AI?

    16. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      googlepages.com

      Oh crap, that's going away too..

    17. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://pages.google.com/

    18. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by 200_success · · Score: 1

      Yahoo's loss is Google's gain.

    19. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by GbrDead · · Score: 1

      sourceforge.net :-)

    20. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by YourExperiment · · Score: 1

      How about Google AppEngine? It's intended for "cloud applications", but of course it has to serve up static HTML pages as part of that. It's free for 1GB of storage and 10GB bandwidth, so if you can cope with the slightly technical setup process it might be an ideal solution.

    21. Re:Anyone have a suggestion where to go next? by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

      I didn't just build my AI, its posting this comment. On the Internet, no knows you're Skynet. jk

      I put off the AI because I'm not interested in programming image recognition software, and that is what is needed before the AI can take a video camera view and translate it into a computerized 3d representation.

      One of the interesting things about AI is that if you look at what it will give us, you can sort of simulate some of that stuff on computer without AI doing it for you. One of the spin offs I came up with(that I'm not currently working on) is a computerized tutor. Make some math lessons that the computer teaches you like a real teacher would. If you have questions, a live tutor is there to answer you. I'm not working on this myself, but like most of my ideas, someone else will implement it and get rich. I'm just happy to see that I think up ideas that are viable.

  33. I felt a great disturbance in the force by mysidia · · Score: 5, Funny

    As if millions of internet web pages suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened....

    1. Re:I felt a great disturbance in the force by glwtta · · Score: 1

      As if millions of internet web pages suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I suddenly fear something terrible has suddenly happened....

      There, fixed it for you.

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  34. GeoCities was 15 years old... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ironically, so were most of its users. GeoCities and Tripod had that certain stigma of raw young newbness, not to be confused with owning an AOL email account - that would be raw old newbness.

  35. Wow by LoudMusic · · Score: 1

    Every time I see the word "Geocities" I'm shocked that it's still around. I guess that's over now.

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  36. From Jesux: by dosh8er · · Score: 1

    "no other versions will be provided by default; we feel the KJV is the only English version that can be fully trusted" -ROTFL "Optionally disable logins on Sunday, the day of rest" -What about the Seventh Day Adventists? "No encryption provided; Christians have nothing to hide" -...Right. Lemme just go ahead and see your CC#'s, and SSN. Is that serious? I wonder how long tripod (lycos) will carry on?

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    This useless space for sale, inquire at front desk.
    1. Re:From Jesux: by fractoid · · Score: 1

      Reading the Jesux web page, it's one of those satires that I'm not quite certain is satire. It worries me when that happens. For instance, compare and contrast the Landover Baptist Church website with Chick Publications.

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  37. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh gosh, he was a quiet one.

  38. The "GeoCities" name by OakDragon · · Score: 1

    I wonder if they'll see off the domain name? Heck, why not sell it all off to someone interested in keeping it going? Unfortunately, I'll bet the market for virtual real estate is as bleak as it is for "real" real estate.

  39. It's vs. its by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    "lowest-common-denominator", like the people who can't tell "it's" from "its"?

    ("... contributed to it's demise ...")

  40. My first web page by br00tus · · Score: 1

    My first web page was on Geocities - http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/1928 . Page info says it was last modified 10/17/1995 10:29:40 PM - over 13 years ago. It's a page of links to other pages on Noam Chomsky, because the main page out on the net at that time was down at that time. Every link is now broken (except perhaps the Usenet one). I even have gopher links in there. Can't say the net has improved much since then - the level of intelligent discussion has lessened, so in most ways it is worse.

  41. Re:While most here are going to rag on Geocities . by Kenshin · · Score: 1

    Totally. My original websites are (mercifully) lost to the void, but I learned a WHOLE lot through trial and error in those GeoCities days.

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    Does it make you happy you're so strange?

  42. If you build it, they will come... by jimbudncl · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you don't maintain it, they will leave.

  43. Is it over already? by RevWaldo · · Score: 1

    Seems like every GeoCities page is coming back:

    Sorry, Service Temporarily Unavailable. The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.

    Additionally, a 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

    Please check the URL for proper spelling and capitalization. If you're having trouble locating a destination on Yahoo!, try visiting the Yahoo! home page or look through a list of Yahoo!'s online services. Also, you may find what you're looking for if you try searching below.


    Unless we slashdotted their butts..

    1. Re:Is it over already? by fractoid · · Score: 1

      Or maybe we just slashdotted GeoCities.

      You heard me.

      ALL OF IT!

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  44. Vern has moved! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://outlawvern.com has moved out of geocities to a more blog-oriented format.

    While this makes me sad, I am very glad that Vern's writings on the work of today's greatest filmatists will continue.

    Buy his books, dammit! This man is amazing!

  45. I used it as a picture hosting site! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a personal website hosted by my internet provider but its got a pathetic 5 MB limit. I managed to get around that by opening 10 different accounts with Geocities, each with a few dozen pages of pictures on it. I then linked to the pages through IFRAMEs to get around the remote picture hosting limits. Pretty seamless and I've got probably 10 years of photographs. I haven't updated it in a few years though. Just so much easier to post on Facebook. I'll miss it, and so will the dozen or so people who still like to visit it to laugh at all the pics.

  46. Netcraft... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Netcraft confirms it: Geocities is de...

    Oh, wait.

  47. Old faithful... by ehud42 · · Score: 1

    Years ago I started a site there to put out information about my flight sim (nothing great, in fact, nothing much any more, just a redirect to my blog).

    What amazes me is that after about 3 or 4 years, I still get 1 or 2 hits with geocities.com/ehud42 in the referring URL!

    It is sad to see it go in a mild, nostalgic sort of way.

    RIP. May your users find happier places to display their wares without the annoying ads...

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  48. Good free hosting services? by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

    Straying a bit from the topic, but this story made me wonder: what are the best free webhosting services nowadays?

    1. Re:Good free hosting services? by networkzombie · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That is curious. I pay for hosting and I couldn't be happier. Why free? If you die, do you want your site to be available for years after? Is $100 a year too much for 100 GB of storage and 100 GB of file transfers per month and unlimited domain names? I have a free page http://networkzombie.googlepages.com/ but it doesn't let me do whatever I want, and storage is 100 MB, so I don't (or can't) do anything serious with it. I think the limitations of free sites, like ads and bandwidth restrictions, make them overrated. What do you do with your free site?

    2. Re:Good free hosting services? by DrgnDancer · · Score: 1

      I agree. 80-120 dollars a year gets you a virtual machine with significant storage and bandwidth, and a configuration very nearly as customizable as having your own server. You don't have ads, or you can have them and make money off of them yourself, you often have a shell account, PhP, Perl, Ruby, Python and either major open source database are usually available and decently configured, plus you usually get a mailserver with your choice of webmail software and Spam Assassin. Unless you are totally broke, it's worth the 8-10 bucks a month just to be able to play with a live server whenever you need or want to. You can also usually get subdomains for free to host that quick site about your coin collection. If you are so broke that 10 bucks a month will break the bank, a lot of ISPs (including cable and DSL providers) still provide some small amount of web space for static pages to their customers.

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    3. Re:Good free hosting services? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      About your free page...

      http://networkzombie.googlepages.com/page2

      Seems you had an image removed.

  49. The ruins of the old Internet by neverland0 · · Score: 1

    I saved a list of all neighborhoods , I'm really saddened by the decisions, because I think fondly of those sites. I know for a fact a lot of dead people left pages there, I remember a deceased five year old little girl that was fan of sailor moon. Romanticizing, I think of it like tearing apart the ruins of an old city because it's not worth the cost of maintenance.

    1. Re:The ruins of the old Internet by Rival · · Score: 5, Interesting
      For those who might enjoy a walk down memory lane, here is a list of all the GeoCities neighborhoods, their suburbs, and the dates when they were added. Kudos to this gentleman for preserving a bit of history.

      As much as people are bashing Geocities, consider*:
      • Their ad requirements, while irritating, were tame compared to most social sites today.
      • Animated GIFs were obnoxious, but are nothing compared to the Flash animations of today.
      • They provided free web-hosting, with no requirement to use their page builder. CMSs are good in certain contexts, but being forced to use them is bad.
      • Many people were less interested in page hits and more interested in sharing information. This does not seem to be the case as much anymore.

      * This is going from memory, 14 years ago now.

      I don't mind saying I had a GeoCities page, for several years from 1995 on. It wasn't much, but it was mine. I edited it in the college labs (faster than dialup, and free!) and shared it with friends and family from their home computers. Times were good.

      Of course, I also used tables and transparent GIFs for layout; there was no CSS back then. And pay-per-minute dial-up was lousy. And there was no Google (remember having to use different search engines for different topics? I remember preferring AltaVista.) No Wikipedia, either -- Encarta was great, though. (Which reminds me, farewell, Encarta. You helped me through many a paper.)

      Great; now I'm feeling nostalgic. Does anyone remember canyon.mid? Man, I used to listen to that all the time. Of course, then I discovered Impulse Tracker, and realized that MIDI was crap (except perhaps as a control language for devices.)

    2. Re:The ruins of the old Internet by Rival · · Score: 1

      Forgot to mention Hotdog Stand.

    3. Re:The ruins of the old Internet by wildstoo · · Score: 1

      Your nostalgia is infectious.

      Holy crap, yes! Haven't heard canyon.mid for years! And I also discovered the MODPlug Plugin and .IT and .XM tracks soon after.

      In fact, my GeoCities page may have had the modplug plugin embedded in it at some point, playing some tiny mods that still took 30-60 secs to download over 28.8kbps.

      I was also an AltaVista fan.

      On a totally separate nostalgic note, I still remember the very first website I saw incorporating frames. It was the Warner Brothers site (or maybe just Looney Tunes) and it was just a gaudy mess of animated characters, but it was split in TWO. I remember thinking "wow, how did they do that?!" and looking at the HTML source (in Netscape, of course) to determine how these newfangled frames worked (and then overusing them in every site I created for years).

      Ahh, those were the days. When [hr size=10] was the very epitome of style and technology. ;)

    4. Re:The ruins of the old Internet by Rival · · Score: 1

      Yes, frames! Did it get any more high-tech than that?

      Remember those images people would use in place of the [hr] tag, which looked just like a horizontal rule but it would have with curlicues at the end, or cats sitting on it or whatever. Very stylish. :-)

    5. Re:The ruins of the old Internet by WebCowboy · · Score: 1

      Their ad requirements, while irritating, were tame compared to most social sites today.

      Not only that, they were next to nonexistent to begin with--merely a small header or footer. Then they added this funny floating GIF thing that would move itself to stay visible when you scrolled and I think they started putting your page in a frame so they could surround it with ads eventually. What I DO remember is that when Yahoo acquired it Geocities REALLY went down hill with all the crapvertisements they forced upon your page.

      They provided free web-hosting, with no requirement to use their page builder. CMSs are good in certain contexts, but being forced to use them is bad.

      Amen to that. Though based on sophisticated CMS platforms, blogging/social networking sites are a bit of a throwback in terms of flexibility/utility--I consider them to have a bout as much utility as Gopher sites circa 1992. You can drop content in the easily enough but you're working in restricted presentation and navigation frameworks.

      Sadly, in this day and age, there is a lot of nervousness about providing free-form HTML space on a large free hosting site, since too many people out there who are interested in such a thing want to exploit that capability for malicious intentions.

      Many people were less interested in page hits and more interested in sharing information. This does not seem to be the case as much anymore.

      The Internet was a different place. If you were on the internet you were either technically savvy/academic or an enthusiastic early adopter/enthusiast. Even the non-technically-inclined participants were willing to learn basic HTML or muddle through the early HTML editors. Also, there was novelty in being able to disseminate information with so much ease.

      Now we have information overload, the novelty has worn off and typical internet users want nothing at all to do with technical development.

      Since there is an overabundance of info out there focus has changed from creating quality content to drawing attention to yourself--even if that is annoying. Also as users are less interested in how the technology works it has become easier to put yourself out there. As a consequence, the less effort it takes to publish content the less pride you have in it and the lower the signal:noise ratio.

      We are now at a point where that effort is near zero, a great many people have no pride (or shame) in their online image and the signal:noise ratio is a very small fraction of one percent.

      Great; now I'm feeling nostalgic. Does anyone remember canyon.mid? Man, I used to listen to that all the time. Of course, then I discovered Impulse Tracker, and realized that MIDI was crap (except perhaps as a control language for devices.)

      Do I remember canyon.mid? Do I ever! The interesting part? The first time I actually HEARD it was on my Atari 520ST playing it through my synth keyboard!

      At the time I first bought Windows 3.1, we had a 386DX33 computer freshly upgraded to 4MB system RAM and a Trident 8800-based SVGA card fully populated with 512KB and wanted to take advantage of the added horsepower, however we did NOT yet have a sound card or speakers.

      The Atari ST I had owned prior to having any sort of PC remained in regular use because it had way better graphics and sound than our PC, and I could use it with my keyboard synth to create, save, play and edit .mid song files. It was also convenient that The Atari ST used the same exact 720K 3.5 inch floppies as the IBM.

      So, when I encountered canyon.mid on my new Win3.1 install the first thing I did was copy it onto a floppy, then take that floppy down to my Atari and play it on my synth. Quite amusing I thought and it make me want to get a sound card.

      The followi

  50. Geocities Ads by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    The simple Geocities sidebar ads are no challenge for Adblock to terminate with extreme prejudice. :)

    I recall when using Geocities myself, in my pre-Adblock days, just being glad to not be stuck with banners/Flash, though.

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  51. Wait... What? by Jafafa+Hots · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I thought they had changed the name to MySpace.

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  52. How many slashdot members... by damn_registrars · · Score: 1

    ... know that they had a geocities page at one point in the past, but haven't done anything with it in at least 10 or more years? I know I used to have a page in "siliconvalley/Heights" but I'll be damned if I remember what my login was for it. Not that the world is any worse off for it disappearing, as it had little more than warcraft II maps and a bunch of animated "under construction" gifs.

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  53. I'm also wondering by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    I've had a page up on Geocities since late 2003/early 2004, only casually updated [which is why I want to stick with a free host.]

    Ads not a problem - I'm tempted to steer page visitors to Adblock Plus, which I already use myself.

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  54. It was the suscription model by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 1

    I used to have a webpage in geocities. It was a pain to update. But after geocities changed their suscription model, it all went downhill. You can't just simply update a website without FTP.

    And at the time, I couldn't afford FTP. Add intrusive ads, nasty non-standards javascript, and you have a recipe for failure.

    1. Re:It was the suscription model by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      What do you mean you couldn't afford FTP? Windows came with a command-line FTP client since '95 (I think), and back on Windows 3.1 I was using a (free) third-party graphical one. Actually, come to think of it, a local ISP sent me a fairly nice one on a 3.5" floppy when I asked for a one-month trial subscription back in '93, along with a web browser (Mosaic) and telnet and finger programs.

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    2. Re:It was the suscription model by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FTP server access became a for-pay service; not the client application.

  55. Archive.org! by antdude · · Score: 1

    http://archive.org/ still has copies of old GeoCities' areas I used to hang out. :)

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  56. Icy Hot Stuntaz by Hubbell · · Score: 0

    I hope someone atleast ripped the icy hot stuntaz page and has it hosted somewhere :( Icy Hot Stuntaz always brings a smile to my face, mostly because I can't tell if they're serious or not.

  57. So Long, Farewell ..... by CalcuttaWala · · Score: 1

    Geocities ( and Tripod ) were the first webservers that allowed a newbie HTML programmer like me to build and host my first and primitive web site ... way back in 1997 I feel sad that Geocities is now gone ! May it rest in peace ... somewhere in the Internet Archives and in our hearts

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  58. Goodbye... by Veggiesama · · Score: 1

    Goodbye http://geocities.com/dbz_final_flash/

    You taught me how to roleplay.

    Goodbye http://geocities.com/dbchronicles/

    You taught me how to make my own roleplaying games.

    Goodbye http://news.cnet.com/GeoCities-porn-ads-spark-controversy/2100-1023_3-225226.html

    You taught me that too much roleplaying means I should be spending my time on better things, like clicking porn ads.

  59. geocities page i used for vim reference by portscan · · Score: 1

    the top google result for "vim regex" is a geocities page, and a useful one at that.

  60. Malware by networkzombie · · Score: 1

    Geocities was a haven for malware. Antivirus alerts from Geocities were getting frequent. After investigating I found these were bogus results from search engines trying to get users to visit the free hosted malware. I blocked all access at the firewall seven years ago and out of hundreds of users, only once was access needed. They used the cached Google page. Am I the only one that thinks Geocities was an out-of-control crapware hosting service?

  61. Ad-free geocities page by Stavr0 · · Score: 1
    Oh well, they're going away now, so it doesn't matter anymore.

    Way back, I had figured out how to block ads from a Geocities page: I simply added <FONT COLOR=WHITE><PLAINTEXT> at the end of every HTML page. PLAINTEXT is the ultimate HTML tag. It completely disables all further parsing till the end of the document. I added this in 2003, and it has lasted till today.

    1. Re:Ad-free geocities page by keeboo · · Score: 1

      Good one... I remember when Geocities started to insert advertisements themselves (previously you were supposed to do that by hand, according to the TOS.. remember? I think the allowed space was like 256kB or so back then.), man I got mad.

      The only trick I ever bothered to use was to finish the html with <!-- or an incomplete tag (don't remember). After some months they changed things and it stopped working. At that point I no longer had patience, so I simply left, erasing the pages I had there previously.

      My first experience with popup banners was with Geocities aswell. It was incredibly annoying (no blocker whatsoever back then) and many pages were stored there, so you had to deal with that from time to time.

      Geocities died for me before Yahoo acquired it, along with other relics with as iname.com (which took my email alias ho$tage after they changed their TOS), Xoom (bought then killed by Microsoft) and so many others.

  62. was one of the first few users of geocities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I signed up for geocities in 1994 and used it for a couple of years. It was slow, but I didn't quite understand the concept of "free email" and "free web pages" back then enough to appreciate its value. They had free webpages even before my own university (top 10 or 20) was ready with user's personal home pages. Well.. as for me, Yahoo got what they wanted.. I became a Yahoo user. I pay for Yahoo mailplus every year. Probably don't have to with gmail around, but I am too attached to my yahoo email address. I would pay for hosting, but Yahoo hosting is way more expensive than competitors.

    Geocities was dead years ago. They should have found a niche to migrate geocities pages or to keep the geocities more up to date with technology. But as usual, yahoo managed to ignore it.

    I hope notepad service is still around.. I have to move my notes out of there, before Yahoo decides to pull the plug.

  63. I'll miss it... by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

    I first put up a Geocities page in late 2003/early 2004, as a high-school class at the time had exposed me to simple hand-coding of HTML.

    It has been updated since them, but sparsely.

    Geocities was/is great to post a small amount of material with minimal hassle, and be able to post most filetypes (although I admit that I couldn't run PHP with it)

    Had WYSIWYG tools, but could also code-it-yourself.

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  64. Jeez, that's sad by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 1

    Geocities was one of the first online communities that I really participated in. I remember the fun I had setting up my first homepage in Cape Canaveral.

    I was on there just the other day looking up some STVOY trivia:

    http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/9299/index.html

  65. The end of an era... the Hamster dances no more. by Onyma · · Score: 1

    As we mourn the loss of an old friend, tonight the Hamster does not Dance.

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  66. Re:While most here are going to rag on Geocities . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Terribly sad. One of the last goatse repositories will disappear...

  67. Balre by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You seem to have distilled the fundamental nature of people.

  68. GeoCities was great.... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 1

    ...I mean, how often can you tell that a web site will be utter crap before you even visit it simply based off the web host?

    R.I.P., Geocities, the web just got 10% better...

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    1. Re:GeoCities was great.... by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      uhh, hello, myspace.com?

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    2. Re:GeoCities was great.... by donatzsky · · Score: 1

      Hmm, let's see:
      MySpace arriving: -20%
      GeoCities leaving: +10%
      A net loss, but still an improvement when talking right now.

    3. Re:GeoCities was great.... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1
      And the best thing is that with a modern browser you can get warnings right there in the link. For example, I have this in my user CSS file:

      A[HREF*="myspace.com"]:after { content: " [BRAIN DAMAGE WARNING]"!important ; color: red }

      Any link to myspace has [BRAIN DAMAGE WARNING] in red text appended to it, so I never accidentally click on it. Information Week and Roughly Drafted have similar warnings (troll warning and idiot warning, respectively).

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  69. So do our geocities emails die? by nintendo_is_a_cereal · · Score: 1

    I still have a geocities email account, from 95ish or so, I tied it into my yahoo account whenever they first allowed that. Sure I only ever receive spam on it, but there is a part of me that would be sad to lose my oldest remaining email address (my first aol account has long since passed away).

  70. Nooooo!!!!!!! by spaceWeepul · · Score: 1

    I'm bummed. They put the ads on the side and I could just upload my pages. Clunky but free. --
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  71. I kept my geocities email for registration by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

    Sure the mail gets dumped into a garbage Yahoo account, but it was nice not having to give out the real address.

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  72. Yes, but... by brindafella · · Score: 1

    What a pity! I also learned HTML code there. My first serious site was also at Geocities. It was easily made, readily updated, and accessible.

    However....

    The problem came, for me, when I tried to update it one day and, somehow, the login and password details had 'morphed'. No, I had not forgotten them! The next problem was that, while I tried for several months at first, then every six months or so since, I have been unable to get ANY reponse from Geocities so-called 'help-desk' (or 'management') to resolve the matter. Not one response!

    Hence, my site remains, a testiment to '90s site tastes, but only due to inattention through inability to update, OR DELETE (or get Geocities to delete), the site. And, no, I will not be giving its address.

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  73. Oh darn by graffitirock · · Score: 0

    There were a lot of cool ascii art Geocities sites.
    Or sites with MIDI hymn music with the lyrics running across the screen.
      How great Thou art

    Also, crazy people.

  74. Site moved by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Moved a short while ago
    http://www.geocities.com/thejoshuaheidenreich -> http://www.thejosh.info/old

  75. Witness the Fierce Beauty by spaceWeepul · · Score: 1

    Witness the Fierce beauty of this Soon to be Lost Art form:
    Evangelion Runescape Clan

  76. Back in the Day... by denmarkw00t · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...I ran a Pokemon fansite on Geocities which offered midis of the game's music, tips (really just reading Tips&Tricks and putting it on my site, kind of like blogs), information on the different versions and ROMs of the Gameboy games. I got my first Cease and Desist letter, ever, from Nintendo. Because of my Geocities site.

    Geocities, you will forever be in my heart.

    1. Re:Back in the Day... by R2.0 · · Score: 1

      "Geocities, you will forever be in my heart."

      So will my first girlfriend. But she was still an obnoxious bitch that wouldn't perform.

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    2. Re:Back in the Day... by chrysrobyn · · Score: 1

      I ran a Pokemon fansite on Geocities which offered midis of the game's music... I got my first Cease and Desist letter, ever, from Nintendo.

      Yeah, but it wasn't due to copyright concerns, they were trying to teach you good taste.

    3. Re:Back in the Day... by denmarkw00t · · Score: 1

      It's terribly true lol. At that point in my life, I played Pokemon and listened to Kid Rock. Its safe to say that this is not the case these days.

  77. blast from the past by superdana · · Score: 1

    I'm glad I heard about this. It encouraged me to track down my sister's decade-old GeoCities site and download a mirror. It's fun to have not just as a keepsake, but as a reminder of how insanely far the 'net has come since then!

    1. Re:blast from the past by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The net is the same old shit, but now with CSS and float windows.

      GeoCities, you will be missed.

  78. maybe now .... by TobiasS · · Score: 1

    the blink tag can be deprecated /sigh

    1. Re:maybe now .... by keeboo · · Score: 1

      Blink tag was not the only plague during the 90s...
      I remember the horrendous animated GIFs, like the classical letter going to a mailbox (e-mail link), or other meaningless animations.

      The tasteless backgrounds (because one could not simply leave a plain background color). Often you could barely read the text.

      Frames! Lots of them. Most not resizeable. I'm glad that fad is long over.

      Tasteless color schemes for texts, bizzarely-sized fonts (often too big).

      Oh.. the graphical horizonal bar people used to divide sections in the same page. At some point people started to use animated GIF for that sort of thing aswell.

      Ah, yes.. Everyone started with their "John Smith's web site", most of those with no useful content.

      "Under construction" pages were a common view.

      Etc etc etc...

  79. Whaddayamean "there WAS neat stuff"? by Animaether · · Score: 1

    There still is.

    I just caught an old Airwolf episode and thought "yikes.. who was that girl?".. that girl was Jill Whitlow. Huh. Let's google her.

    #1: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jill_Whitlow
    #2: www.geocities.com/jillwhitlowfan/index.htm
    #3 and all the rest: utter f'ing database-generated crap. Let's take the "tv.com" one;
    http://www.tv.com/jill-whitlow/person/31200/summary.html

    No biography, no photos, no trivia, no quotes. The *only* actual information in there is her credits - which are leeched off of other sites(!)
    The same applies to pretty much all of the remaining results.

    I'm gonna go archive that geocities site now - exactly as the summary suggests, as a *great* volume of information (in general, not just this Whitlow page) would be lost (presuming archive.org has failed to cache much of it / will stop serving the cached information if Yahoo decide to drop a disallowing spiders directive in there.).

  80. This is why by SteveFoerster · · Score: 1

    Last year I taught a course in basic web design for students at a Native American tribal college. They needed web space for the course, which the college wasn't in a position to provide. Given the poverty in their community I wasn't going to ask them to use a paid service, even at an amount that bourgeois Slashdotters find trivial.

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    1. Re:This is why by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      How much space did they need? Something like NearlyFreeSpeech.net will charge under $10 (probably well under $10) for the amount of storage and bandwidth that a web design course will need (for the whole class, not per-student). And if the college had an Internet connection, couldn't you just run a server there? It's not like they are going to need to serve millions of hits for their coursework...

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  81. Hmm, better save off a copy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wget -r -k http://www.geocities.com

  82. It's were we learned how the internet works. by Punto · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Who cares about the ugly designs? They were "ugly" because people actually had the freedom to upload whatever they wanted, and who goes to the internet to watch "pretty" things anyway, especially 15 years ago, when you couldn't find 2 browsers that would show a page the same way?

    For the younger generation (I was 13), who hadn't been to college, we only had a dial-up connection and no way to know about ftp, gopher, usenet, etc; geocities gave us a way to experiment and learn how the internet worked.

    Today everything is trapped inside something else (facebook, myspace, blogging platforms, news sites), does anyone understand what happens with their data after they publish it? where does it go, where does it come from when it shows up on their browser?

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    1. Re:It's were we learned how the internet works. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "who goes to the internet to watch "pretty" things anyway"

      You're right. Now, pretty things doing nasty things is a whole other matter

    2. Re:It's were we learned how the internet works. by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1

      Got news for ya buddy: if you didn't learn how ftp, gopher, usenet, etc. work, then you didn't learn "how the internet worked". The RFCs were there for the taking, even back in the days before good web search engines. Geocities didn't let you "experiment", they merely provided a group of (crappy) templates which one could then modify (ooh, I'm "hacking teh source d00d!"). The only thing that Geocities did was provide a few free megs of web space, which they then covered with ads. Anyone with a real ISP got some webspace - Geocities was mostly for AOL users and other idiots with crappy ISPs.

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    3. Re:It's were we learned how the internet works. by Punto · · Score: 1

      that's probably after my time, I never saw any templates or ads covering anything. maybe after yahoo bought them? in any case, get off my lawn :p

      the RFCs where there, but my point is that, no being in college, I didn't have access to any server to try any of that technology, until services like geocities started showing up.

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    4. Re:It's were we learned how the internet works. by gujo-odori · · Score: 1

      Good point. My Geocities pages were written in 1996 and 1997 and lead to my becoming a web developer in the late nineties and later, a sysadmin.

      Sure, they look crappy now, but like you said, it's where a lot of people learned to write HTML. I liked Geocities a lot and it was a shame to see it basically die/become a piece of crap after Yahoo took over.

  83. I need more time! by canonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

    They can't shut it down, my site is still under construction!

  84. AltaVista is Yahoo! actually by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    AltaVista was bought by Yahoo!, not Google. Of course, I only know this because I used to work for Yahoo! and one of the AltaVista guys had a cubicle near me. :)

  85. Geocities is why I'm not! by jonaskoelker · · Score: 1

    It was my start in writing HTML code and now I'm a full-time web developer.

    It was my start in writing HTML too, and now I'm a scarred-for-life systems developer!

  86. Scale and Scope by Sentry21 · · Score: 1

    It's kind of amazing really. If you think about it, the scope of Geocities was likely huge, requiring what must have been, for the time, a colossal amount of bandwidth and hardware to handle the traffic being served by all those users.

    Now, however, since it's largely static pages with some minor ad munging, you could probably serve the entirety of their content from a single server, largely from memory, without a lot of fuss.

    We've come a long way from Geocities' (almost) static pages in 1995 to our current 'request per user per second' dynamically updating AJAX-enabled user-generated socially-networked drop-shadow rounded-corner web-font lifestyle. Time marches ever onward, and while there's something to be said for simplicity, it's hard to fathom a website that doesn't change any time I do something with it.

  87. Here's an opportunity that Yahoo will miss by blind+biker · · Score: 1

    Yahoo could make a kind of contest, asking people to vote for their favorite GeoCIties page, and Yahoo could then save them for posterity. Let's say, the top 500 rated pages. This would also mean that those are the most visited pages, so there would be some profit from the ads on them. But most importantly, this would generate a lot of traffic for Yahoo, and a lot of buzz around their services. In general, it would be a good PR move without almost any cost.

    What does Yahoo do, instead? Let's knife the whole thing. Yeah, that's smart.

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  88. Windows Only! by janrinok · · Score: 1

    Windows only!

    Thanks, but no thanks....

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    1. Re:Windows Only! by adona1 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, there's Comix for Linux which personally I prefer. Don't remember the Mac program...

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    2. Re:Windows Only! by afabbro · · Score: 1

      Windows only!

      Really not surprising, since you're replying to a post about a "Windows comics reader"...

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  89. Any chance of the good stuff getting mirrored? by firefarter · · Score: 1

    Often, when researching into old-ish (70s-80s) cameras and lenses, I stumble on really extensive pages on geocities or some other free service.

    The resources we often enough unique and extremely informative. I should have considered mirroring them right then and there - now might be too late.
    Is there any chance that the "good" stuff might have been mirrored to archive.org or something like that?

    1. Re:Any chance of the good stuff getting mirrored? by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      geocities still seems to be up for the moment so if you can remember where they are you should be able to make copies.

      archive.org has some stuff but it's patchy. Also archive.org has the horrible behavior of applying a sites current robots.txt to archived content which often ends up blocking out archived content. So you can't trust stuff on archive.org to remain availible.

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  90. Oh man I had some great memories there... by Veneratio · · Score: 1

    I'll sure miss it. I remember fondly how I could give my friend Timmy Schneider a ceisure from the other end of the planet, just by giving him the URL to any given Geocities site. *sigh* Those were the days man....

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    1. Re:Oh man I had some great memories there... by gujo-odori · · Score: 1

      I'm just relieved it didn't give him a *seizure*

  91. Re:RIP .. server side includes by pbhj · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Geocities was a progression for me as they later allowed SSI. This moved me over from frame based layout. From there I quickly hopped over to my own domain with PHP and was totally geeked out with include_once()!

    I went back to the site and added meta-redirect to forward people to my blog. Must check my server logs and see if anyone comes that way.

  92. No backup? by 4D6963 · · Score: 1

    So, where's their backup? Nowhere? Don't tell me they just ditched 15 years of early Internet history, when the whole archive could probably hold on a single hard drive?

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  93. Facebook = GeoCities by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've long held that Facebook, MySpace etc are really just the modern equivalent of the "homepage." You have info about yourself, pictures of your dog, a guestbook, little minigame widgets (which are now AJAX instead of CGI scripts), links to your friends' homepages, all the same stuff. The only major differences are that A) you don't have to know anything about designing a webpage to have an elaborate Facebook page (the reason many GeoCities pages look like drek is because of all the people who read chapters 1-3 of "Learn HTML in Seven Days" and decided they had enough to accomplish what they wanted) and B) Facebook actively makes money off of you rather than slapping up advertisement banners and hoping you click on them.

  94. Replaced? by Secret+Agent+Man · · Score: 1

    Are small hosting services like that even necessary anymore? For those who just want to post content online, all they have to do is start a blog or get an account at one of the many Web 2.0 sites (MySpace, Facebook, etc.) available nowadays. I recall the advertisements being a bit irritating. Heck, the ads on the Web 2.0 sites now are irritating (hence AdBlock). I recall some GeoCities pages being useful. I even used them to do some research for homework back in middle and high school. Now I primarily use Wikipedia and Google for my researching needs.

  95. Re:So hey timothy... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

    Wow, you've been trolled. Look at the grandparent's user ID. It is not kdawson, it is 'kdawson (3715)'. If it were the real kdawson, I'd agree (although, since I've blocked kdawson articles from the front page for about a year, I don't know if they've improved recently).

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  96. Re:hmm. familiar by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

    Not exactly. Geocities had a little useful content hidden amongst the rubbish. Back then, most browsers had a button that would turn off images and a setting that ignored the page's font instructions (Opera still does, with a few other fun stylesheets - my favourite makes the page look like you are browsing on a C64) and with this a lot more of Geocities became usable. The markup on MySpace is generally so unstructured that there is no way of turning it into readable text.

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  97. Mod Parent Up by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

    Exactly what I was going to suggest. Of course, any self-respecting geek will already have their own server in a colo somewhere, but if you don't then NFS is a really great solution for low-volume hosting. You only pay for what you use, and it's pre-pay so you never get charged vast amounts if your site is slashdotted.

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  98. GeoCities wasn't the first... by McDutchie · · Score: 1

    ...that honor actually goes to Joe's Amazing Instant Home Pages (by the same guy who was the victim of the first Joe job, henceforth named after him). Unchanged since 1996 or so. Still active (!). You get one page. No graphics except some stock ones. That's real nostalgia there.

  99. Re:hmm. familiar by maxume · · Score: 1

    You can add those buttons to most modern browsers:

    https://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/zap.html

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  100. What decade is this? by jonadab · · Score: 1

    Man, I sort of assumed Geocities must have ceased to exist back in the nineties, as more and more consumer ISPs started offering web hosting as part of their service package. In my mind, Geocities is closely associated with unnecessary framesets and "Get Netscape Navigator 3.0 Now" banners.

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  101. Before everyone makes fun of Geocities... by elrous0 · · Score: 1

    I hosted my first webpage on Geocities back in 1995. It was where I learned html back when Netscape 1.1 was still cutting edge. I imagine more than a few web designers cut their teeth on this service. So it may be tempting to mock it for its simplicity and general cheesiness, but in 1995 EVERYTHING on the internet was simple and cheesy. And, IIRC, there was nothing else at the time that offered such a great opportunity to poor, wannabe webmasters (that was back when paid web hosting cost a LOT more than a $6 a month GoDaddy account, and Geocities was offering space for FREE). The skills I learned at Goecities landed me several jobs, and put me miles ahead of the competition back when saying "Oh, and I can design webpages too" really set you apart from everyone else.

    RIP Geocities, from a former Athens resident.

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  102. Why Doesn't Yahoo Sell GeoCities by WebmasterNeal · · Score: 1

    Yahoo originally bought Geocities for something like 3-5 billion dollars. Why not sell it to another company. Yahoo could perhaps avoid having to lay off another 700 people if they made a few million dollars on it.

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  103. Quite sad by Eravnrekaree · · Score: 1

    I always thought that the ads were a reasonable trade off for the service being free. I mean, people shouldnt complain about ads on a free service, since they help keep the service going to it can be free. I am really quite angered by the move Yahoo has made and hope that maybe they consider to keep existing material online.

  104. How to back up my treasure? by egork · · Score: 1

    I just have logged in to see if I can download and back up all my files at once. Have not found any word about the closing action. Is it me, or is it the lack of consideration at Yahoo?

  105. Any popular site left out from 95? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what is left yet from 95? I can remember only Yahoo.com and Playboy.com.

  106. Geocities Japan is still up by thirdender · · Score: 1

    http://geocities.yahoo.co.jp/ For some odd reason, Japanese Geocities sites are still up and running. I think it might have something to do with the Harajuku generation...

    1. Re:Geocities Japan is still up by geek2k5 · · Score: 1

      The Geocities sites are still up on this side of the Pacific but they aren't accepting new customers.

  107. Alternatives? by boris111 · · Score: 1

    I'd like to build my neighbor a simple website that allows him to give potential customers a list of what he does, and show a few pictures. What's a good free website hosting site that would be comparable to GeoCities. I am a backend programmer so web design is not my strong suit, but I'd like to give him something to get him started... something he can update himself. I was thinking of just using Facebook, but I'm thinking he'd eliminate a lot of potential viewers.

  108. flaw was there can only be one top-dog social site by peter303 · · Score: 1

    And Facebook is it right now. MySpace and Friendster are top-dog in their own lesser spheres. The whole point of networking is have all the people you are interested in connected to the same system.

  109. dang, no more Scarlet Witch page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Only webpage that has lots of sexy Wanda is Geocities! http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Labyrinth/5357/

    But webmaster discontinued updating years ago.

  110. wget by jdavidb · · Score: 1

    I'm preserving my site with wget. This set of options seems to be the best I can come up with, although I would like to find a way to make --page-requisites work as well so as to preserve the icons and junk I linked to off of geocities' server:

    wget --L --mirror --convert-links [URL]

  111. I know I'm old when ... by troll8901 · · Score: 1

    ... former AOL users are now highly respected forum writers, system administrators and network engineers.

    It's been 15.1 years since AOL appeared on USENET.

    Darn, I'm really old!

  112. The real value of geocities by GNUCyberKat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The real value of geocities was not in the actual content it contained (although some of the content was simply awesome), but rather how it encouraged a lot of individuals to start publishing content onto the web via a personal home page. Both the skills learned and the desire to get oneself "one the Internet" that geocities (and its kin websites) provided were launchpads into the web we know now.

    1. Re:The real value of geocities by geek2k5 · · Score: 1

      Very true!

      I did my first website back in 1998, working off a Dummies book as I recall. It wasn't too fancy and it didn't have much content, but it gave me enough training to be able to easily succeed in a few HTML classes I took a couple of years later.

  113. Web Pages That Suck by troll8901 · · Score: 1

    There's still Web Pages That Suck. :)

    And the Chinese webmasters and users still believe in a "busy" front page.

    Even portals reflect that mentality. Examples:

    It is rare indeed for Chinese websites to be minimalist. Examples:

  114. Anonymous Coward by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lots of good info on illicit drug synth is going to go down with geocities.

  115. Downloading by furby076 · · Score: 1

    So will Yahoo offer a way to d/l your site without subscribing? Other then the manual process. Maybe offer free FTP until they close their doors?

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  116. And nothing of value... by Myrimos · · Score: 1

    The article is missing the tag: andnothingofvaluewaslost

    kthxbye

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  117. Awful, eye-punishing graphics... by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Ah, just like myspace.

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  118. Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "they're absolutely cluttered with flashy, obtrusive advertisements "

    Well, not if you use firefox with adblock plus. In fact, I was unaware of advertising on facebook and wondered how they made money.