Fly in replacement parts?? You don't realy know what is going on.
I'll let you be the guy that closes the 4KV switchgear that still have moisture inside, don't be surprised if I stand back quite a distance.
You've clearly never seen the cabling and electrical distribution & control infrastructure of a nuclear facility, and from your response I'd guess even an industrial one.
YOu can't replace any of that in hours. You might string one cable to one pump in that time, but you have to be able to get to it among the damage and debris from the tsunami and flooding. The fact that you think there was an easy solution is quite telling.
You have no real insight into a power plant electrical design and construction, that I am 100% certain of by your responses. I can guess you'll say something else ignorant in response.
And so, with all that, what it your point related to large scale solar generation. What does this study tell us that we don't already know? I sure don't see it in your list of anecdotes.And maybe you should look through the study which indicates that the solar PV technologies you are speaking of are not the ones that will get to to the large scale solutions needed. Again, something most of us already know, but clearly not all.
I think solar is great, and wind is great, but I also know the challenges of addressing the energy needs of society on the national and global scale, and its not got anything to do with what is good or not good during occasional blackouts.
Your ignorance on the Fukushima event is on clear display here. For starters, electrical distribution systems were inoperable due to the flooding, there was nothing usable to hook a generator up to immediately after the event.
How about choosing a career you love and/or are very good at and can perform with passion. Choosing a career out of fear is probably not the best way to go. Just be so damn good it doesn't matter.
You bring up a good point that isn't often discussed when they talk about "cheap solar", which is cheap inverters that produce pulse/square wave AC and damage motors and even electronics. Those inverters are fine for occasional use or backup power, I use one when camping, but not good for everyday use. Good quality pure sine wave inverters are quite expensive.
I'm OK with removing or limiting subsidies, and the idea does have merit. With that said, I don't think a national energy solution set can be optimal without government dollars and incentives used wisely. Subsidy elimination certainly isn't a Lovins original idea, and I would never say Lovins is completely wrong on everything. But, Lovins uses a level of reasoning that dismisses the details, and he's not really providing anything of value while taking money from anywhere he can get it.
I see you haven't read much of the information linked to. The study doesn't show scaling presently will bring the cost down to fit their model. That is why they pin hope on R&D, and not scaling, to get us their.
And surely the many millions of dollars contributed by the Arunas A. and Pamela A. Chesonis Family Foundation, big solar and wind proponents, didn't influence this at all.
Lovins is a hack that gets money to tell the less knowledgeable greenies exactly what they want to hear, and they certainly worship at his feet and send him their money. He's a slick operator.
News flash: slashdotter reads article about article, finds something to complain about, stops to post complaint, and never reads actual paper.
Are you referring to yourself? Or have you read it and can inform us what does this study tells us that we isn't already obvious? And while at it summarize the options considered....
I use videoconferencing a lot, but there are many times when it just doesn't get the job done, particularly when you are dealing with people from another country and there is already a language/understanding gap. Communicating in person is still much more effective, as is relationship building.
"What the study shows is that our focus needs to shift toward new technologies and policies that have the potential to make solar a compelling economic option
In other words, it presently is not a compelling economic option. If you ignore costs, you can scale of course,we already knew that. So this study is big waste of time and money, should have just bought some solar panels with that budget.
Yeah, but now we have unprecedented levels of Global Whining, and unless we do something about it fast, we'll see mass destruction of the workplace environment.
The differential density explanation makes the most sense to me. I thought about that at first then discarded it because I wouldn't think the differences would be that big, but its the only thing that makes sense. Thanks.
That is the stupid question I was afraid to ask. I would think there would have to be a shift of center of gravity to have an effect, but aren't the peaks and valleys of the wave just filled in by the other layer of water, with essentially similar mass?
And it’s because we want to have a tool that kids can use in a classroom, on their way home, at home when they’re doing homework and also a tool they can bring in during their most important exam.”
That part of the niche market is captive doesn't negate any of my point. I never said they had any technical superiority either, I said they were a tool that we well developed for the purpose. That point is somewhat backed up by the insistence of experienced folks who demanded you use it, they feel it is the right tool.
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You forgot that we'll have flying cars sharing rides via Uber.
Unfortunately, we'll never see a non-biased cost benefit assessment, nor will one be used in deciding what to build.
Fly in replacement parts?? You don't realy know what is going on.
I'll let you be the guy that closes the 4KV switchgear that still have moisture inside, don't be surprised if I stand back quite a distance.
You've clearly never seen the cabling and electrical distribution & control infrastructure of a nuclear facility, and from your response I'd guess even an industrial one.
YOu can't replace any of that in hours. You might string one cable to one pump in that time, but you have to be able to get to it among the damage and debris from the tsunami and flooding. The fact that you think there was an easy solution is quite telling.
You have no real insight into a power plant electrical design and construction, that I am 100% certain of by your responses. I can guess you'll say something else ignorant in response.
And so, with all that, what it your point related to large scale solar generation. What does this study tell us that we don't already know? I sure don't see it in your list of anecdotes.And maybe you should look through the study which indicates that the solar PV technologies you are speaking of are not the ones that will get to to the large scale solutions needed. Again, something most of us already know, but clearly not all.
I think solar is great, and wind is great, but I also know the challenges of addressing the energy needs of society on the national and global scale, and its not got anything to do with what is good or not good during occasional blackouts.
Your ignorance on the Fukushima event is on clear display here. For starters, electrical distribution systems were inoperable due to the flooding, there was nothing usable to hook a generator up to immediately after the event.
How about choosing a career you love and/or are very good at and can perform with passion. Choosing a career out of fear is probably not the best way to go. Just be so damn good it doesn't matter.
OK, nice statement of the obvious. But what is it I said that you disagree with?
You bring up a good point that isn't often discussed when they talk about "cheap solar", which is cheap inverters that produce pulse/square wave AC and damage motors and even electronics. Those inverters are fine for occasional use or backup power, I use one when camping, but not good for everyday use. Good quality pure sine wave inverters are quite expensive.
I'm OK with removing or limiting subsidies, and the idea does have merit. With that said, I don't think a national energy solution set can be optimal without government dollars and incentives used wisely. Subsidy elimination certainly isn't a Lovins original idea, and I would never say Lovins is completely wrong on everything. But, Lovins uses a level of reasoning that dismisses the details, and he's not really providing anything of value while taking money from anywhere he can get it.
Your point?
I see you haven't read much of the information linked to. The study doesn't show scaling presently will bring the cost down to fit their model. That is why they pin hope on R&D, and not scaling, to get us their.
Like I said, nothing we don't already know.,
Terrified? That's the kind of accusation that happens when you don't have any other good response. If you want to blindly accept what he says, fine.
And surely the many millions of dollars contributed by the Arunas A. and Pamela A. Chesonis Family Foundation, big solar and wind proponents, didn't influence this at all.
Lovins is a hack that gets money to tell the less knowledgeable greenies exactly what they want to hear, and they certainly worship at his feet and send him their money. He's a slick operator.
News flash: slashdotter reads article about article, finds something to complain about, stops to post complaint, and never reads actual paper.
Are you referring to yourself? Or have you read it and can inform us what does this study tells us that we isn't already obvious? And while at it summarize the options considered....
I use videoconferencing a lot, but there are many times when it just doesn't get the job done, particularly when you are dealing with people from another country and there is already a language/understanding gap. Communicating in person is still much more effective, as is relationship building.
"What the study shows is that our focus needs to shift toward new technologies and policies that have the potential to make solar a compelling economic option
In other words, it presently is not a compelling economic option. If you ignore costs, you can scale of course,we already knew that. So this study is big waste of time and money, should have just bought some solar panels with that budget.
Who cares about the real Kansas. Stereotypical Kansas is very flat, and that is what really matters.
Yeah, but now we have unprecedented levels of Global Whining, and unless we do something about it fast, we'll see mass destruction of the workplace environment.
The differential density explanation makes the most sense to me. I thought about that at first then discarded it because I wouldn't think the differences would be that big, but its the only thing that makes sense. Thanks.
And keep your eyes off my wife too!
That is the stupid question I was afraid to ask. I would think there would have to be a shift of center of gravity to have an effect, but aren't the peaks and valleys of the wave just filled in by the other layer of water, with essentially similar mass?
And it’s because we want to have a tool that kids can use in a classroom, on their way home, at home when they’re doing homework and also a tool they can bring in during their most important exam.”
hence the 'tool' part I spoke of.
Even if they are bringing you drinks?
I'd prefer them delivered by a bikini clad human being. (specificity avoided to preclude charges of sexism)
That part of the niche market is captive doesn't negate any of my point. I never said they had any technical superiority either, I said they were a tool that we well developed for the purpose. That point is somewhat backed up by the insistence of experienced folks who demanded you use it, they feel it is the right tool.