Maybe they're just trying to find where "stupid" is in DNA. Anyone that blindly and for no reason provides "the authorities" with their DNA are the sheep that "the authorities" are looking for. And then they spice that gene into an army of zombie-people that they're making in a lab somewhere, to replace the population that stands in their way.
Seriously though, what we need to know is: Who started this idea/concept, and how do we get them out of their position of authority? Hell India is all up in arms over the recent treatment of an Indian woman by US authorities. Why can't we do something similar here?
Our society itself is sick. The problem is, thus far, not worded, but is trying to be masked with technology. Our bodies are evolved from billions of years of Nature's advancements with it's own set of bio-logic. Until we learn to utilize that bio-logic for the good of all, we are simply bullshitting ourselves into thinking that we're innocent, and have no wrong-doings in our diet, physical habits, or our thought habits.
It's not like there are no "craft" [wikipedia.org] that fly outdoors with large, fragile wings.
Ooo, no fair. You're comparing a butterfly - a part of the bio-logic of Nature itself, evolved from the very fiber of the physical universe's intelligence over billions of years - to some rig that was recently"invented" by humans? Come on man. You may as well compare a lighter to our sun, or a sand castle to a mountain. I'm not trying to offend you, sir, but silly indeed.
In order for what man has come up with to achieve flight using, the basic construction of the item in question in this article, outdoor, it's going to have to learn to use the wind as the butterflies do. Man still is in awe of birds flying in a V formation, so how will he ever understand flight in this way, until he himself flies with his own apparatus, and use the wind as a part of flight?
There are two wheels that spin that the wings are attached to, and in turn (no pun intended), flap the wings. I put it in quotes because I don't know what else to call it. What do you call it?
What I meant is that by striking, you withhold your productive power, but because of labor laws, the company is forbidden from replacing you. So you get to refuse a job condition you didn't like, but without having to find another job. The end result is that you get a raise for little effort.
Ok, I see your point, and I agree. But as humans, we have to do what we can to keep our way of life preserved with some feeling of sanity/freedom without having to work like slaves just to pay bills.
Where I used to work, there were no unions. However and coworker and I (I'm not bragging but I pulled a lot of weight there, and so did my coworker) decided to quit. We each gave a lengthy notice, I gave 6 weeks and she gave 3 weeks. During that time there were attempts to 'sweeten the pot' for us to stay, neither did. In the end they treated the people (it took 4 people to replace us - 2 each) that replaced us better and gave them a higher percentage raise than they normally give. Had everyone in my dept had any balls, they'd have threatened to quit all at the same time, and they would have been compensated accordingly. This is my opinion of a strike, or at least how it should be done.
Fuck unions. The reasoning that brought them about was sound, and hell, it may very well set in again some day, but due to the efforts of the original unions, we have laws now that, again, in my opinion, remove the need for unions. But since it took unions to bring about this change, others may argue, with validation, that unions are good to some extent. I'm not one of those.
Might I add, it's good to have a conversation on slashdot with a total stranger with your manners. Most here simply throw bricks at others.
Another key point here (with both devices that we're talking about) is that they both have to fly indoors. Usually when that's the case (especially with that flying bike, holy shit it's HUGE!) it's due to 'wind being an obstacle'.
Really, if they maybe added this winged design to a hot-air balloon, they may have something.
I bet you $200 that you'll never ever ever see on out in the real world (I'll give you 10 years - and I expect US dollars).
Look, I'm not trying to down-play the invention itself, it's got a few good things about it, like I said, the radio-vision is cool. However I'll bet that in the end, all that gets used is the radio-vision, as the whole battle of "lift" has already been fought out in all practical manner possible. These days there are simply to many requirements for safety reasons for some "spinning winged" craft to make a breakthrough.
I think we simply have a different definition of "work". Work, in my mind, isn't a noun, it's a verb. You are correct in what you said about union laws and that. However, I don't understand: "So striking is 'having the cake and eating it too'." If job=cake, then eating=?
Also, if you mod a comment here, then commenting in that thread yourself, removes the mod.
So, and I'm just going by American laws, but... why not go ahead with the courtroom proceedings? If Google doesn't show up, then the defendants win, and then - hell I don't know what they (the British system) do to those that do not pay up. Go arrest the higher-ups at the local Google office? Extradite the higher-ups from America?
Why is it a different set of rules for big corporations? If this were a case of, person A suing person B, and person B didn't show up to court, and lost, then didn't pay up, what do they do to person B over there?
So, it can turn on, fly at a certain height, and avoid things - all for 9 minutes. I mean, yeah that's sorta cool how they utilize the stereo vision, and that it's got the ability to slow one if it's "wings" in order to avoid things. But it looks like it's only going to work indoors, with all fans off. Being that there's no way to control it, seems like it'd be less than entertaining, other than to present to an unsuspecting audience, like slashdot. Other than that, troll me into oblivion, I suspect it's lame.
Think? Show me a person that's done anything about the illegal activity, and I'll show you a person that's not stupid. I'm stupid, that's how I know. The only thing that I could think to do (and again, I stress how stupid I myself am) is to stop using devices and websites that are used to gather data on my personal life that I don't use. I'm not about to fight the NSA, the US government, or any of my fellow Americans. It seems simple, but I'm a simple person with a limited capacity. I have better things to do than to worry about the eye-in-the-sky. Also, I'm stupid enough to believe that it's mostly bullshit (the NSA's claim that they're able to capture, store, and evaluate all internet traffic) anyway, and there's not much to worry about.
I say the same. I switched to Linux, only after running it for server at work for a few years. Once my Windows box died, I switched. At first I was a little nervous (hell I run slackware!) that things would get outta hand. But really, since firefox and thunderbird are what I use most of (there are other things that KDE offers that are really cool, but I haven't really toyed with all of it yet), I notice no difference at all. Most of the things that people do today are web-based, which negates the need for "which OS is better" - THANK GOD!
Hell, can I adopt you as a parent then? My situation with my dad is that he clicks on anything to get to porn, and thinks that every time he does it, he's doing it in a different way. He represents the person that the virus writers hope for.
If there are people out there that are 65+ and can use a PC 'like a boss', then my hat's off to them.
They've all been putting up huge towers, paying land-owners large sums of money, paying for the towers, climbers of those towers, and all that comes with upkeep... and all they needed was an array of briefcases.
Seriously though, how the hell does the briefcase handle the connection between the cell phones? If those towers have to many users on them at once (and remember, each tower isn't dealing with ALL CELL PHONES that are within their range) they cannot handle the traffic, just try to use your celly at some local event where there are thousands of people all within close proximity of each other, using, more than likely, one cell tower - no can do.
I feel that this is one of those scare tactics that are being used in lieu of the Snowden leaks, that no one obviously gives 2 shits about. Because if anyone gets a warrant based on illegally-gained information, the case gets tossed out in court. So what's the point? If it's just a tool that the cops get to use, then I'll bet they're more than likely just listening to their wives/girlfriends. Nothing to fear here guys.
If I were Snowden, I"d combine the knowledge of only 2 things here, and proceed:
1) The NSA doesn't know how much data he took
2) He has a nice setup in Mutha Russia
So I'd simply say, "Ok, deal!" and I'd hand them 2 more slightly irrelevant items of news, say "yup, th, th, th, th, th, th, that's aaaall folks!", get "pardoned" and simply stay in Mutha Russia.
I know what you mean, most people have the attention span of a gnat, and that's due to the reasoning (that they see) behind 'why to store info' in the first place. We could debate this all day, with no good becoming of it. I think that the news itself in all it's totality is better than little pieces that are controlled by few, where you are apparently compiling a list of stuff so that one day you will see the whole story. I just have to ask, once you do see the whole story, what's your plan; what are you going to do? My plan, since I never will be hit with the whole thing at once, is to do nothing, because by then I'll be completely numb to it all.
It is interesting to note how others in authority positions are dealing with it right now. They all appear to be, you know, sorta, piling on their own stuff into the cracks of our crumbling society. The authority seems to be under the impression that despite the news that the authority has been breaking their own laws "in the name of security", no one thinks it bad. Little do they know that people like you are compiling a list of all the naughty and nice, to one day.... shit what is your plan again?
Why? What other news would you like spooled to you, in little bite-sized chunks? You just go to the police and tell them that you saw a crime and you will let them know small details as you see fit, let me know how it goes. bullshit, all of it. I'll spool-feed bait on a hook to the lake for fish, and that's what I feel is being done with (queue the deep movie-trailer voice) 'THE SNOWDEN LEAK'.
And what "current climate" are we talking about here? I demand to know what illegal activity my countrymen are involved in, so that I can take steps necessary to avoid, fight, or accept. What the hell kind of news agency gets to report news as they so wish? As they see fit? Do news agencies now get to decide when crimes are reported? I guess so, because that's exactly what's happening. Hell guys, if evidence is withheld in any other case, the holder of such information is held accountable, and eventually will have charges brought against them. Why not here? Accepting a spool-fed version of the totality of such a problem as this, only proves that everyone is full of shit, and cannot be trusted. Accepting a spool-fed version of anything, leaves that 'anything' wide open to never end, and limitless boundaries. So what, one day in 30 years, we're still getting (queue the deep movie-trailer voice) 'THE SNOWDEN LEAK', describing things that had we heard 30 years earlier, we could have done something about, but now.... nah, we're to far down that rabbit-hole. To accept a spool-fed version of something to this magnitude, to my way of thinking, only proves that you really don't care about what's being leaked at all.
The people that decide laws, have been supposedly busted for doing illegal things (so we're told). If you don't want to know the full scope of that, then you sir, are fucked. Until I hear all of it, I believe none of it.
Ok, then release it mother fucker, stop spooling it out. But it's as if our house (America itself), was once great, all the rooms were furnished, the walls were painted, and then one day we went into a room where vandals had spray-painted "Eat shit and die faggot/religious/artist/loner/politician/armed forces/nigger/honkey/old/young Americans!" We were shocked! And we quickly made plans to repaint the wall. So we went out and bought paint, and were all cheering each other on ready. But when we got home, another wall was sprayed. Then repeat that for the whole house? No, I won't fucking take it.
If there's some info that's out there that needs to be known by the American people, then LET. US. FUCKING. KNOW! Don't sit around talking about how carefully you're baby-sitting the information, until the right time comes to let people know. It's all bullshit, all of it. All that spooling it out does is create a platform by which people become complacent, accepting - numb, if you will. So that one day when the last freedom is taken, no one has the energy to go get more paint.
Murdering in America is tricky. The streets are packed with concerned citizens, some of which are armed, and there's local police to avoid. There's no central system for murdering or stowing dead individuals, so it's hard to keep track of who been murdered and where their dead body is. What's a murder to do?
There, that puts it into perspective. I wonder how many goddamned NSA stories slashdot is going to pump into today's atmosphere.
I think that if you're into football so much that it causes emotional happiness/rage, then that's a prison enough. Other people that are not so affected should pitty these people, as they have nothing else.
Using their same logic (and I'm assuming that they are trying to stop people from saying mean things, and it escalating into some physical rage), they should ban football, because of the rage that it causes every game. There's always a winner and there's always a loser. The only thing that allows for these games to be played is that there is (supposed to be) freedom of speech.
Although, honestly, I feel that since there is such emotional value that comes along with sports, there should be some level of responsibility from those that ref the game. If the "sports heroes" are doing things that will spark rage in the crowd (ridiculous penalties, fighting, whatever), then the refs should just stop the game, or the "sports heroes" should be arrested.
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Maybe they're just trying to find where "stupid" is in DNA. Anyone that blindly and for no reason provides "the authorities" with their DNA are the sheep that "the authorities" are looking for. And then they spice that gene into an army of zombie-people that they're making in a lab somewhere, to replace the population that stands in their way.
Seriously though, what we need to know is: Who started this idea/concept, and how do we get them out of their position of authority? Hell India is all up in arms over the recent treatment of an Indian woman by US authorities. Why can't we do something similar here?
http://xkcd.com/386/
That is, no doubt, his take on Slashdot. And who hasn't been there before. I know I have.
Cheers!
Our society itself is sick. The problem is, thus far, not worded, but is trying to be masked with technology. Our bodies are evolved from billions of years of Nature's advancements with it's own set of bio-logic. Until we learn to utilize that bio-logic for the good of all, we are simply bullshitting ourselves into thinking that we're innocent, and have no wrong-doings in our diet, physical habits, or our thought habits.
It's not like there are no "craft" [wikipedia.org] that fly outdoors with large, fragile wings.
Ooo, no fair. You're comparing a butterfly - a part of the bio-logic of Nature itself, evolved from the very fiber of the physical universe's intelligence over billions of years - to some rig that was recently"invented" by humans? Come on man. You may as well compare a lighter to our sun, or a sand castle to a mountain. I'm not trying to offend you, sir, but silly indeed.
In order for what man has come up with to achieve flight using, the basic construction of the item in question in this article, outdoor, it's going to have to learn to use the wind as the butterflies do. Man still is in awe of birds flying in a V formation, so how will he ever understand flight in this way, until he himself flies with his own apparatus, and use the wind as a part of flight?
Good thing it's not a "spinning winged" craft.
There are two wheels that spin that the wings are attached to, and in turn (no pun intended), flap the wings. I put it in quotes because I don't know what else to call it. What do you call it?
What I meant is that by striking, you withhold your productive power, but because of labor laws, the company is forbidden from replacing you. So you get to refuse a job condition you didn't like, but without having to find another job. The end result is that you get a raise for little effort.
Ok, I see your point, and I agree. But as humans, we have to do what we can to keep our way of life preserved with some feeling of sanity/freedom without having to work like slaves just to pay bills.
Where I used to work, there were no unions. However and coworker and I (I'm not bragging but I pulled a lot of weight there, and so did my coworker) decided to quit. We each gave a lengthy notice, I gave 6 weeks and she gave 3 weeks. During that time there were attempts to 'sweeten the pot' for us to stay, neither did. In the end they treated the people (it took 4 people to replace us - 2 each) that replaced us better and gave them a higher percentage raise than they normally give. Had everyone in my dept had any balls, they'd have threatened to quit all at the same time, and they would have been compensated accordingly. This is my opinion of a strike, or at least how it should be done.
Fuck unions. The reasoning that brought them about was sound, and hell, it may very well set in again some day, but due to the efforts of the original unions, we have laws now that, again, in my opinion, remove the need for unions. But since it took unions to bring about this change, others may argue, with validation, that unions are good to some extent. I'm not one of those.
Might I add, it's good to have a conversation on slashdot with a total stranger with your manners. Most here simply throw bricks at others.
What the shit, you should have gotten at least one mod point for being Informative. Thanks!
Another key point here (with both devices that we're talking about) is that they both have to fly indoors. Usually when that's the case (especially with that flying bike, holy shit it's HUGE!) it's due to 'wind being an obstacle'.
Really, if they maybe added this winged design to a hot-air balloon, they may have something.
I bet you $200 that you'll never ever ever see on out in the real world (I'll give you 10 years - and I expect US dollars).
Look, I'm not trying to down-play the invention itself, it's got a few good things about it, like I said, the radio-vision is cool. However I'll bet that in the end, all that gets used is the radio-vision, as the whole battle of "lift" has already been fought out in all practical manner possible. These days there are simply to many requirements for safety reasons for some "spinning winged" craft to make a breakthrough.
I never argue :)
I think we simply have a different definition of "work". Work, in my mind, isn't a noun, it's a verb. You are correct in what you said about union laws and that. However, I don't understand: "So striking is 'having the cake and eating it too'." If job=cake, then eating=?
Also, if you mod a comment here, then commenting in that thread yourself, removes the mod.
Seriously, if you don't want the work don't take it. Nobody forces you to work at Amazon
And, what the hell do you think a strike is, anyway?
So, and I'm just going by American laws, but... why not go ahead with the courtroom proceedings? If Google doesn't show up, then the defendants win, and then - hell I don't know what they (the British system) do to those that do not pay up. Go arrest the higher-ups at the local Google office? Extradite the higher-ups from America?
Why is it a different set of rules for big corporations? If this were a case of, person A suing person B, and person B didn't show up to court, and lost, then didn't pay up, what do they do to person B over there?
So, it can turn on, fly at a certain height, and avoid things - all for 9 minutes. I mean, yeah that's sorta cool how they utilize the stereo vision, and that it's got the ability to slow one if it's "wings" in order to avoid things. But it looks like it's only going to work indoors, with all fans off. Being that there's no way to control it, seems like it'd be less than entertaining, other than to present to an unsuspecting audience, like slashdot. Other than that, troll me into oblivion, I suspect it's lame.
Damn you! ...beat me to it.
How stupid do they think we are?
Think? Show me a person that's done anything about the illegal activity, and I'll show you a person that's not stupid. I'm stupid, that's how I know. The only thing that I could think to do (and again, I stress how stupid I myself am) is to stop using devices and websites that are used to gather data on my personal life that I don't use. I'm not about to fight the NSA, the US government, or any of my fellow Americans. It seems simple, but I'm a simple person with a limited capacity. I have better things to do than to worry about the eye-in-the-sky. Also, I'm stupid enough to believe that it's mostly bullshit (the NSA's claim that they're able to capture, store, and evaluate all internet traffic) anyway, and there's not much to worry about.
I say the same. I switched to Linux, only after running it for server at work for a few years. Once my Windows box died, I switched. At first I was a little nervous (hell I run slackware!) that things would get outta hand. But really, since firefox and thunderbird are what I use most of (there are other things that KDE offers that are really cool, but I haven't really toyed with all of it yet), I notice no difference at all. Most of the things that people do today are web-based, which negates the need for "which OS is better" - THANK GOD!
Hell, can I adopt you as a parent then? My situation with my dad is that he clicks on anything to get to porn, and thinks that every time he does it, he's doing it in a different way. He represents the person that the virus writers hope for.
If there are people out there that are 65+ and can use a PC 'like a boss', then my hat's off to them.
They've all been putting up huge towers, paying land-owners large sums of money, paying for the towers, climbers of those towers, and all that comes with upkeep... and all they needed was an array of briefcases.
Seriously though, how the hell does the briefcase handle the connection between the cell phones? If those towers have to many users on them at once (and remember, each tower isn't dealing with ALL CELL PHONES that are within their range) they cannot handle the traffic, just try to use your celly at some local event where there are thousands of people all within close proximity of each other, using, more than likely, one cell tower - no can do.
I feel that this is one of those scare tactics that are being used in lieu of the Snowden leaks, that no one obviously gives 2 shits about. Because if anyone gets a warrant based on illegally-gained information, the case gets tossed out in court. So what's the point? If it's just a tool that the cops get to use, then I'll bet they're more than likely just listening to their wives/girlfriends. Nothing to fear here guys.
If I were Snowden, I"d combine the knowledge of only 2 things here, and proceed:
1) The NSA doesn't know how much data he took 2) He has a nice setup in Mutha Russia So I'd simply say, "Ok, deal!" and I'd hand them 2 more slightly irrelevant items of news, say "yup, th, th, th, th, th, th, that's aaaall folks!", get "pardoned" and simply stay in Mutha Russia.
I know what you mean, most people have the attention span of a gnat, and that's due to the reasoning (that they see) behind 'why to store info' in the first place. We could debate this all day, with no good becoming of it. I think that the news itself in all it's totality is better than little pieces that are controlled by few, where you are apparently compiling a list of stuff so that one day you will see the whole story. I just have to ask, once you do see the whole story, what's your plan; what are you going to do? My plan, since I never will be hit with the whole thing at once, is to do nothing, because by then I'll be completely numb to it all.
It is interesting to note how others in authority positions are dealing with it right now. They all appear to be, you know, sorta, piling on their own stuff into the cracks of our crumbling society. The authority seems to be under the impression that despite the news that the authority has been breaking their own laws "in the name of security", no one thinks it bad. Little do they know that people like you are compiling a list of all the naughty and nice, to one day.... shit what is your plan again?
Why? What other news would you like spooled to you, in little bite-sized chunks? You just go to the police and tell them that you saw a crime and you will let them know small details as you see fit, let me know how it goes. bullshit, all of it. I'll spool-feed bait on a hook to the lake for fish, and that's what I feel is being done with (queue the deep movie-trailer voice) 'THE SNOWDEN LEAK'.
And what "current climate" are we talking about here? I demand to know what illegal activity my countrymen are involved in, so that I can take steps necessary to avoid, fight, or accept. What the hell kind of news agency gets to report news as they so wish? As they see fit? Do news agencies now get to decide when crimes are reported? I guess so, because that's exactly what's happening. Hell guys, if evidence is withheld in any other case, the holder of such information is held accountable, and eventually will have charges brought against them. Why not here? Accepting a spool-fed version of the totality of such a problem as this, only proves that everyone is full of shit, and cannot be trusted. Accepting a spool-fed version of anything, leaves that 'anything' wide open to never end, and limitless boundaries. So what, one day in 30 years, we're still getting (queue the deep movie-trailer voice) 'THE SNOWDEN LEAK', describing things that had we heard 30 years earlier, we could have done something about, but now.... nah, we're to far down that rabbit-hole. To accept a spool-fed version of something to this magnitude, to my way of thinking, only proves that you really don't care about what's being leaked at all.
The people that decide laws, have been supposedly busted for doing illegal things (so we're told). If you don't want to know the full scope of that, then you sir, are fucked. Until I hear all of it, I believe none of it.
Ok, then release it mother fucker, stop spooling it out. But it's as if our house (America itself), was once great, all the rooms were furnished, the walls were painted, and then one day we went into a room where vandals had spray-painted "Eat shit and die faggot/religious/artist/loner/politician/armed forces/nigger/honkey/old/young Americans!" We were shocked! And we quickly made plans to repaint the wall. So we went out and bought paint, and were all cheering each other on ready. But when we got home, another wall was sprayed. Then repeat that for the whole house? No, I won't fucking take it.
If there's some info that's out there that needs to be known by the American people, then LET. US. FUCKING. KNOW! Don't sit around talking about how carefully you're baby-sitting the information, until the right time comes to let people know. It's all bullshit, all of it. All that spooling it out does is create a platform by which people become complacent, accepting - numb, if you will. So that one day when the last freedom is taken, no one has the energy to go get more paint.
And fuck you for posting AC, bitch-kid.
Murdering in America is tricky. The streets are packed with concerned citizens, some of which are armed, and there's local police to avoid. There's no central system for murdering or stowing dead individuals, so it's hard to keep track of who been murdered and where their dead body is. What's a murder to do?
There, that puts it into perspective. I wonder how many goddamned NSA stories slashdot is going to pump into today's atmosphere.
I think that if you're into football so much that it causes emotional happiness/rage, then that's a prison enough. Other people that are not so affected should pitty these people, as they have nothing else.
Using their same logic (and I'm assuming that they are trying to stop people from saying mean things, and it escalating into some physical rage), they should ban football, because of the rage that it causes every game. There's always a winner and there's always a loser. The only thing that allows for these games to be played is that there is (supposed to be) freedom of speech.
Although, honestly, I feel that since there is such emotional value that comes along with sports, there should be some level of responsibility from those that ref the game. If the "sports heroes" are doing things that will spark rage in the crowd (ridiculous penalties, fighting, whatever), then the refs should just stop the game, or the "sports heroes" should be arrested.