No, your attitude is the one with the problem. No current open source solution adequate? Then help make one that is- either by improving an existing alternative, or starting your own. If you don't have the skills/time to do so, encourage others who do to take it up. Just criticizing without doing anything about it helps noone.
Or just buy bitkeeper and get on with your day job.
If Sun wanted to make themselves insanely relevant very quickly, they would fully embrace Debian and support it extremely well. Then, they should work to standardize on http://www.autopackage.org/ [autopackage.org], or something very similar to it. Then, they should work to get Java much better integrated into Firefox and vice versa. Here is a good article on it the level of integration between the JVM and the browser, which is just pathetic at the moment:
The BBC made and screened this documentary. It's an important issue that has been largely ignored by virtually every other major media organisation worldwide. The fact that this documentary ever aired says a lot about how independent the BBC has already been
I'm afraid you are mistaken - its not indepence - its typical european antisemitism.
On the other hand, it would be really nice if there were a config file that would set up talking to mail servers regardless of the client you're using, so you could set up one file and have it work regardless of the mail client the user ended up with.
Sort of like a/etc/defaultmailconfig or ~.defaultmailconfig file which the mozilla / evolution / sylpeed / etc installer took its initial config from ?
What do the freedesktop people do about this sort of stuff ?
Thanks Bruce - maybe I haven't been clear enough, I don't understand what it matters if a person working on an open source project is paid or a volunteer.
Are you actually trying to suggest that the same code/communication written by a Sun staffer are somehow less worthy (and/or useful) than identical code/communcation written by a volunteer ?
If you are, I cannot believe I used to respect you.
Although some of the leads don't work for Sun, very few of them seem to be volunteers. The collab.net folks are Sun contractors, etc. It's difficult to judge who is behind an @openoffice.org address, and there are a lot of those.
Bruce - Why does it matter who is behind an @openoffice.org address ? - if it is a volunteer fair play to them - if it is a contractor - Who cares? Or do you have a problem with Sun paying people to develop open source software ?
Is that they own the OS + make the hardware - ultimatly Steve jobs decides how much of the cost of each piece of hardware is Mac OS X. A luxury that PC OEM's don't have.
As quoted from "Christopher Booker's notebook" - he's completely bonkers - just look at his past columns - why blame incompetence when alledging a vast conspiracy seems to do ?
Presumably he is referring to a different BBC to the one...
Imagine the FBI agent who is also there and who six months ago wiretapped the conversation where they agreed on the meaning of their paper folding (or whatever other hidden channel they use).
If you need a secret channel to set up a secret channel, you still ain't got nothing.
Which is why they did it in the Tribal Area, on the Pakistani border 4 years ago.
Enter OSS - My (*gasp*) spamassassin+dspam+amavisd-new is easily doing 99.99% of the spam with extremely low occurances of false positives. Is it supported? Nope. Wait, yes it is. I SUPPORT IT.
You are the person camping in the machine room ? - what you are advocating is a bit different - it is a highly specific single task - massively different to a total change of operating system.
Have you ever tried to use SunScreen? Very unusable in my experience. You need to be local, running X to install it. Really, who runs X on a server? The initial configuration options are limited an break any remote access you may have just had.
Total crap - Sunscreen is hardly brilliant - but it is very easy to configure a basic configuration on the command line.
Bear in mind the scale is different so there are many more jobs listing Unix than Solaris or Linux. But the growth in jobs using Linux as a keyword is much stronger.
Higher-end controller cards (read: NOT IDE) can share a bus with another controller, allowing two systems (with a controller in each) to share access to a single (external) array, with dual power supplies, and technologies like SSA allow even the cabling to be redundant.
Of course, by the time you spent the money on this type of setup, you could probably have purchased another complete machine, with another array in it, and used software to handle redundancy and updates to the array. We did this with our SQL server setup. We have two machines with redundant power supplies and RAID-10 arrays, setup in a load-balancing cluster with one as an updating subscriber to the other (updates are sent between the machines real-time, losing about 10% on write performance, but doubling read performance). If you share the array between machines, you will save the 10% or so on write performance, but won't gain the read performance, so it all depends on your primary usage for the storage system. Of course, you can't completely avoid downtime (something WILL happen eventually), but by having a separate system, you can reduce the chances of having downtime, and reduce the length (since only one has to be up).
You can get fully redundant SATA RAID devices, controllers, PSUs, fans, etc - for less that 10000GBP.
Some day your management will realize that the expensive servers they're buying really aren't worth that much. It shouldn't take that long to realize that you're paying too much for what has now become commodity hardware.
Yeah comparing a new server to a 7 year old one - one is worth f**k all, one costs a lot.
Who would have thought it!, you heard of depreciation buddy ?
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No, your attitude is the one with the problem. No current open source solution adequate? Then help make one that is- either by improving an existing alternative, or starting your own. If you don't have the skills/time to do so, encourage others who do to take it up. Just criticizing without doing anything about it helps noone.
Or just buy bitkeeper and get on with your day job.
Alex
If Sun wanted to make themselves insanely relevant very quickly, they would fully embrace Debian and support it extremely well. Then, they should work to standardize on http://www.autopackage.org/ [autopackage.org], or something very similar to it. Then, they should work to get Java much better integrated into Firefox and vice versa. Here is a good article on it the level of integration between the JVM and the browser, which is just pathetic at the moment:
Relavent to who exactly ?
Alex
The BBC made and screened this documentary. It's an important issue that has been largely ignored by virtually every other major media organisation worldwide. The fact that this documentary ever aired says a lot about how independent the BBC has already been
I'm afraid you are mistaken - its not indepence - its typical european antisemitism.
Alex
Which O/S has the smuggest users ?
On the other hand, it would be really nice if there were a config file that would set up talking to mail servers regardless of the client you're using, so you could set up one file and have it work regardless of the mail client the user ended up with.
Sort of like a
What do the freedesktop people do about this sort of stuff ?
Alex
Too bad it only comes on their PBX systems [switchvox.com] (starting at $995).
This really sounds like a commercial. Do you work for them?
Sarcasm more like
Alex
Thanks Bruce - maybe I haven't been clear enough, I don't understand what it matters if a person working on an open source project is paid or a volunteer.
Are you actually trying to suggest that the same code/communication written by a Sun staffer are somehow less worthy (and/or useful) than identical code/communcation written by a volunteer ?
If you are, I cannot believe I used to respect you.
Alex
Take the comment at face value. I couldn't tell whether the person behind an openoffice.org address was a volunteer or not.
But what difference does it make ?
Alex
Although some of the leads don't work for Sun, very few of them seem to be volunteers. The collab.net folks are Sun contractors, etc. It's difficult to judge who is behind an @openoffice.org address, and there are a lot of those.
Bruce - Why does it matter who is behind an @openoffice.org address ? - if it is a volunteer fair play to them - if it is a contractor - Who cares? Or do you have a problem with Sun paying people to develop open source software ?
I don't understand.
Regards,
Alex
Is that they own the OS + make the hardware - ultimatly Steve jobs decides how much of the cost of each piece of hardware is Mac OS X. A luxury that PC OEM's don't have.
Alex
As quoted from "Christopher Booker's notebook" - he's completely bonkers - just look at his past columns - why blame incompetence when alledging a vast conspiracy seems to do ?
Presumably he is referring to a different BBC to the one...
Which mentions the Abraham Lincoln here?
Which mentions the risks the US are taking in providing aid here
Which reports on the extraodinary generosity of the US (people + government) here
and Colin Powell's visit here
and US government promises of aid here
Alex
ps - whoever said the thing about Murdoch picked the wrong newspaper group.
Imagine the FBI agent who is also there and who six months ago wiretapped the conversation where they agreed on the meaning of their paper folding (or whatever other hidden channel they use).
If you need a secret channel to set up a secret channel, you still ain't got nothing.
Which is why they did it in the Tribal Area, on the Pakistani border 4 years ago.
Alex
"I use Mandrake, so that makes me suave and sophisticated."
Not a cheese eating surrender monkey ???
Alex
Especially when you consider stock splits.
Alex
I'm not sure how that's any different than scanning the user's files for a credit-card number and mailing that to the software author automatically.
You can't tell the difference between you stealing something belonging to someone else and them stealing something of yours?
Wow.
Alex
Install Linux at home. You'll be a pro in no time.
Yeah - this is the best way to get exposed to complex setups.
Alex
"Jumping to Conclusions Mat"?
Perhaps the only Olympic sport a slashdot reader could ever hope to win ?
Alex
Enter OSS - My (*gasp*) spamassassin+dspam+amavisd-new is easily doing 99.99% of the spam with extremely low occurances of false positives. Is it supported? Nope. Wait, yes it is. I SUPPORT IT.
You are the person camping in the machine room ? - what you are advocating is a bit different - it is a highly specific single task - massively different to a total change of operating system.
Alex
corporates don't include a locked down windows firewall on each users workstation.
Not only would it control viruses, etc - but what users can get up to.
Alex
Have you ever tried to use SunScreen? Very unusable in my experience. You need to be local, running X to install it. Really, who runs X on a server? The initial configuration options are limited an break any remote access you may have just had.
Total crap - Sunscreen is hardly brilliant - but it is very easy to configure a basic configuration on the command line.
Alex
www.jobstats.co.uk is a great website.
Linux jobs
Solaris jobs
Unix job stats
Bear in mind the scale is different so there are many more jobs listing Unix than Solaris or Linux. But the growth in jobs using Linux as a keyword is much stronger.
Alex
Higher-end controller cards (read: NOT IDE) can share a bus with another controller, allowing two systems (with a controller in each) to share access to a single (external) array, with dual power supplies, and technologies like SSA allow even the cabling to be redundant.
Of course, by the time you spent the money on this type of setup, you could probably have purchased another complete machine, with another array in it, and used software to handle redundancy and updates to the array. We did this with our SQL server setup. We have two machines with redundant power supplies and RAID-10 arrays, setup in a load-balancing cluster with one as an updating subscriber to the other (updates are sent between the machines real-time, losing about 10% on write performance, but doubling read performance). If you share the array between machines, you will save the 10% or so on write performance, but won't gain the read performance, so it all depends on your primary usage for the storage system. Of course, you can't completely avoid downtime (something WILL happen eventually), but by having a separate system, you can reduce the chances of having downtime, and reduce the length (since only one has to be up).
You can get fully redundant SATA RAID devices, controllers, PSUs, fans, etc - for less that 10000GBP.
Alex
You are right on much of this, but.
But 33mhz PCI buses on your high-end SF25k servers? Give me a break!
From the systems handbook,
"Up to 72 hot-swappable PCI+ I/O slots: 54 slots are 66 MHz; 18 slots are 33MHz"
Think about it - do you really need 66Mhz for all your slots? no - not for you cluster interconnects, etc.
Alex
Some day your management will realize that the expensive servers they're buying really aren't worth that much. It shouldn't take that long to realize that you're paying too much for what has now become commodity hardware.
Yeah comparing a new server to a 7 year old one - one is worth f**k all, one costs a lot.
Who would have thought it!, you heard of depreciation buddy ?
Alex
This is what you want,
Alex