It is just an OS, but MS has been hyping it (well, their evangelists have been anyway) like it's the second coming. XML, Avalon, the new communictions layer, built in DRM, etc etc etc. If this was xp SP3 no one would complain, and in fact, they'd probably praise it for new features, improved graphics, and a new theme:)
While I am not going to disagree with you, but I did notice something interesting. The previous govts that did this were a fair amount in the past... could it be that the "modern" gov't has simply learned that public relations is much more powerful than anything else? Maybe the nazis etc just learned this lesson earlier? Now I'm not a huge bush fan, but I'm not going to put him next to hitler (at least as far as this argument goes), but maybe it's just advancing technology and access to information that's making PR so much more important these days?
But aren't they also providing a way to unlock this info, ie: the software they provide? They are just making you use their key to unlock it, and not giving you the instructions to make your own key, which sucks, esp for OSS devs, but it's not like they are holding your pictures ransom and not giving you any way to view them.
We're talking about different things then. I'm talking about the code required to unlock encrypted information, NOT the photograph, which is most certainly not owned by anyone but the photographer.
Actually I think a better analogy is you complaining that someone else is padlocking their own property, and you want to have the right to go in, poke around, take what you want and invite your friends around. Now don't get me wrong, I'm all linux/gpl/etc, $deity bless the penguin and all that, and yes, Nikon's attitude sucks, but it is their property and they do have the right to do with it what they want. What is more screwed up is the DCMA, because you *should* (IMHO) be able to attempt to reverse engineer and write your own code to access the information so that you can add the new nikon raw format to dcraw or gimp or whatever, and not get your ass sued off.
Yup. Of course, hardware always drops in price, so I figure in under 2 years you'll find that dualx64s are the standard for consumer machines, if not something better. By then the servers will have quad-core 5Ghz chips which people will say "those are for servers only", but they'll come down and a couple of years after that those chips will be in consumer machines....
Regarding more than one CD, remember that to duplicate the Linux install software wise in windows you'd need the OS (1 cd), office (1, 2 or 5 cds depending on how you get it), sql server (1 cd), visual studio (1 dvd, though to be fair I don't think linux's offering has this yet), a whole lot of misc system and user apps (another 1-2 cds). Of course, you have the choice to install what you want remember, so you can only install the base os if you so choose.
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Well, y-windows' last release is over a year ago, and Fresco's last frontpage news item was 2003-03. Looks like there has been some work on it, between then and early 2004, with minor changes (based on the nightly snapshot diffs), but not a huge amount. The snapshot tarball has been 4.1mb for the entire time. I have the feeling that both these projects are basically dead:(
But debian unstable doesn't (afaik) have a flashing 'update me now' button. This is something restricted to the more user-oriented (redhat, suse, etc) distros.
More annoying than that is that if you just leave it (say, overnight), it'll helpfully reboot for you anyway! Isn't that a nice thing that they do? No idea how it deals with unsaved documents or whatnot, but I know it plays havoc on servers when this happens on w2k3 if you're not expecting it (more from the admin side than the actual server, generally admins don't expect their servers to randomly reboot without being explicitly told to, and no, I wasn't the admin:)
Isn't part of the whole principles of usability to make things *familiar* and not scary and different? Hell, even I'm scared of the new fox based netscape.... call me boring but if it looks like a browser I'm used to I'm going to be more apt to use it. Course, if netscape users are like aol users, it's a different story...
I wasn't talking about technically minded people though, I was talking about mom and dad and granny. I don't think that a university where laptops loaded with windows and linux is representive of the rest of the country though. I can't walk into a walmart and buy a computer with linux on it (note I said "walk":), or into a fry's or london drugs or future shop. Last time I checked out the dell laptop purchase options there was nothing other than a choice of windows or windows.
The easy answer of course is that MS bought and stole their following, while Mac and linux earned theirs. When was the last time someone (think joe average user) chose windows with their new computer, or chose ie. MS is what you get when you don't choose something else (from the user perspective anyway).
Well since you asked, I think Ballmer is hilarious, it's damn scary he's CEO of the company.
Well, to be honest, he's probably a great businessman or something, multi-billion dollar corps don't put idiots in the drivers seat. Of course, that apparently doesn't stop him from doing stupid things on camera that can be ridiculed for the ages:)
I'm pretty sure that I've seen this before, or parts of it anyway on the Truiumph of the Nerds movie. Also, it's obvious that the mac-heads have been insane for a hell of a lot longer than I thought:)
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Check the main subversion page for some examples, or try that google thing.
It is just an OS, but MS has been hyping it (well, their evangelists have been anyway) like it's the second coming. XML, Avalon, the new communictions layer, built in DRM, etc etc etc. If this was xp SP3 no one would complain, and in fact, they'd probably praise it for new features, improved graphics, and a new theme :)
While I am not going to disagree with you, but I did notice something interesting. The previous govts that did this were a fair amount in the past... could it be that the "modern" gov't has simply learned that public relations is much more powerful than anything else? Maybe the nazis etc just learned this lesson earlier? Now I'm not a huge bush fan, but I'm not going to put him next to hitler (at least as far as this argument goes), but maybe it's just advancing technology and access to information that's making PR so much more important these days?
But aren't they also providing a way to unlock this info, ie: the software they provide? They are just making you use their key to unlock it, and not giving you the instructions to make your own key, which sucks, esp for OSS devs, but it's not like they are holding your pictures ransom and not giving you any way to view them.
We're talking about different things then. I'm talking about the code required to unlock encrypted information, NOT the photograph, which is most certainly not owned by anyone but the photographer.
Actually I think a better analogy is you complaining that someone else is padlocking their own property, and you want to have the right to go in, poke around, take what you want and invite your friends around. Now don't get me wrong, I'm all linux/gpl/etc, $deity bless the penguin and all that, and yes, Nikon's attitude sucks, but it is their property and they do have the right to do with it what they want. What is more screwed up is the DCMA, because you *should* (IMHO) be able to attempt to reverse engineer and write your own code to access the information so that you can add the new nikon raw format to dcraw or gimp or whatever, and not get your ass sued off.
Well they have to, it's the default kernel!
Yup. Of course, hardware always drops in price, so I figure in under 2 years you'll find that dualx64s are the standard for consumer machines, if not something better. By then the servers will have quad-core 5Ghz chips which people will say "those are for servers only", but they'll come down and a couple of years after that those chips will be in consumer machines....
:)
And on, and on, and on
Regarding more than one CD, remember that to duplicate the Linux install software wise in windows you'd need the OS (1 cd), office (1, 2 or 5 cds depending on how you get it), sql server (1 cd), visual studio (1 dvd, though to be fair I don't think linux's offering has this yet), a whole lot of misc system and user apps (another 1-2 cds). Of course, you have the choice to install what you want remember, so you can only install the base os if you so choose.
Well, y-windows' last release is over a year ago, and Fresco's last frontpage news item was 2003-03. Looks like there has been some work on it, between then and early 2004, with minor changes (based on the nightly snapshot diffs), but not a huge amount. The snapshot tarball has been 4.1mb for the entire time. I have the feeling that both these projects are basically dead :(
Adobe 7.0 is a HUGE increase in speed over 6. Give that a shot.
But debian unstable doesn't (afaik) have a flashing 'update me now' button. This is something restricted to the more user-oriented (redhat, suse, etc) distros.
More annoying than that is that if you just leave it (say, overnight), it'll helpfully reboot for you anyway! Isn't that a nice thing that they do? No idea how it deals with unsaved documents or whatnot, but I know it plays havoc on servers when this happens on w2k3 if you're not expecting it (more from the admin side than the actual server, generally admins don't expect their servers to randomly reboot without being explicitly told to, and no, I wasn't the admin :)
Yup, a very cool program. Too bad you can't get down to the car viewing level you can with keyhole :(
Yea, but than this wouldn't be slashdot right?
Isn't part of the whole principles of usability to make things *familiar* and not scary and different? Hell, even I'm scared of the new fox based netscape.... call me boring but if it looks like a browser I'm used to I'm going to be more apt to use it. Course, if netscape users are like aol users, it's a different story...
Didn't they prove in the spoof reality show My Big Fat Obnoxious Boss that sleeping on money was in fact, quite uncomfortable?
But isn't it nice to know that alien worlds look so much like home? :)
I wasn't talking about technically minded people though, I was talking about mom and dad and granny. I don't think that a university where laptops loaded with windows and linux is representive of the rest of the country though. I can't walk into a walmart and buy a computer with linux on it (note I said "walk" :), or into a fry's or london drugs or future shop. Last time I checked out the dell laptop purchase options there was nothing other than a choice of windows or windows.
The easy answer of course is that MS bought and stole their following, while Mac and linux earned theirs. When was the last time someone (think joe average user) chose windows with their new computer, or chose ie. MS is what you get when you don't choose something else (from the user perspective anyway).
Well since you asked, I think Ballmer is hilarious, it's damn scary he's CEO of the company.
:)
Well, to be honest, he's probably a great businessman or something, multi-billion dollar corps don't put idiots in the drivers seat. Of course, that apparently doesn't stop him from doing stupid things on camera that can be ridiculed for the ages
I'm pretty sure that I've seen this before, or parts of it anyway on the Truiumph of the Nerds movie. Also, it's obvious that the mac-heads have been insane for a hell of a lot longer than I thought :)
Slashdotted for me :( Anyone got a .torrent of the file?
:)
Too bad that the exeem site is so graphics heavy, they should have put up the text only version for slashdot
It's nice to see that the taking down of sites and services such as napster and suprnova has stopped piracy in it's tracks!
I thought that this only happened on some table types, and if you used myisam (or innodb?) then it only locked the row?