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Exeem Open Beta Released
BrasOnMyGuitar writes "The file sharing application known as eXeem (made by the creators of the now-defunct file-sharing site SuprNova.org) has gone into public beta. The program is based on the BitTorrent protocol. However, it eliminates the need for trackers and decentralizes the user from the network. This allows for Kazaa-style searching with the speeds and benefits of the BitTorrent protocol." Reader Eeknay points out that Linux users can run it too.
Just downloaded the program, the interface is pretty p2p standard. When installing, It asks you to install an eXeem IE Toolbar, which I did not do.. Also, it seems to be having problems connecting to the network and searching for files. Hopefully it will be as widely used as suprnova was, and have some good download speeds. After several tries, I was able to connect to the network, and find a few files, but there were very few results, and only 1 seed on each of them. Since suprnova has been down, I've mostly just been using torrentspy. Anyone have an other recommendations for sites? I prefer just having web pages, so I don't have to run a separate client.
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How well does it protect the person sharing or seeding the file?
And of course, eXeem will be used exclusively for the mass distribution of Free, Open Source, GNU, and GPL'd software.
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It now does nothing really that new, apart from using the bittorrent protocol. Networks like the long lost WinMX have supported downloading from users with partially downloaded for years now.
I guess it just saves the client from searching for the peers itself, leaving that job to the supernodes.
It's the beginning of a new age for Bitorrent. Or the beginning of the end. We soon shall see.
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eXeem Lite
Does it contain spyware ala Kazaa? I sure won't install it until I seen the source, eXeem being affiliated with Suprnova.org which was.... well, hosting tons of illegal .torrents?
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I made it to the main page and clicked on the download button and I just get a blank page.
Is there a mirror kicking around or a *cough* torrent *cough* to download this?
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http://download.exeem.com/exeem.htm
Actually the client runs with the help of wine, I prefer native binaries :/
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It's nice to see that the taking down of sites and services such as napster and suprnova has stopped piracy in it's tracks!
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As the guy above said, when you first open this program, it appears to be a very normal p2p program, like kazaa and ares. The ability to create your own 'torrents' is what will really set this service apart. Some of the downsides of the other p2p applications (including bittorrent apps) was the inability of the layman user to contribute and share things new and unique. I personally think you will see this take off VERY quickly, and will be the next level of p2p. Lets see how this turns out.
From the FAQ:
14. Is eXeem(TM) open source?
No, eXeem(TM) is not open source.
(Seriously)
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...and I know this isn't an open source application, but it's only a matter of time. (Sorry about that, hit the 'submit' button too quickly. I meant to clarify)
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forgot to include br's so formating looks pretty dumb on that post.. also, I started downloading a file, was getting pretty good speeds(150k/s), then lost connection to eXeem, and havnet been able to get back in :|
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Download link did not appear on the linked download.htm page for me, but is apparantly here: http://download.exeem.com/eXeem0.20.exe
No cydoor eXeem lite: http://exlite.tk/ get it while it's hot! Works too
This should be good... BT is without question the fastest p2p app (in fact, the only thing that has ever topped out my 'net connection), but it needs two features to kill off the others in my book:
1. Search - it's no fun to rely on third party websites to find things. Hopefully now we'll be able to do this.
2. Anonymity - BT could use an option for a system like Freenet's for making it really hard to tell who's serving who. Combined with the distributed nature of BT, it would be difficult to prove anything at all about BT users.
Here's another thought: the current BT system is really good at dispersing new content, like distro ISOs and TV shows, through RSS feeds from central websites. It would be cool to be able to subscribe to network-wide custom feeds, to stay informed about new files that match certain criteria.
http://suprbash.org/vip/lexa/exeem020.torrent from a moderator in the exeem chatroom happy torrenting
Is this the safe and sane version of bit torrent? Or do I have to worry about 1) being infected by virus, malware and God knows what else, and 2) will the record industry's Nazis come kicking down my door for downloading Linux-related files?
I just scrubbed my roommates' computers that was loaded to the brim with virus and malware from using P2P when they download music files (so they claim) with various P2P clients. I like bit torrent although I think using FTP would be a lot faster sometimes.
Does the adware they install run under wine too?
This service will end up the same as Supernova eventually. The only way a p2p torrent service will ever survive is if it is GNU/GPL.
If it doesn't use trackers, how is the connection between clients done? "Suprnodes" i suppose? I'm trying to find out but TFSHBS (The * Site Has Been Slashdotted). So, any info plz? Or a .torrent for the docs? ;)
not to be trusted with your privacy, period.
Hmm... from reading Slashdot, I was under the impression that the only files being traded through P2P were research papers, Linux distributions, and independent music files.
What is this 'piracy' you speak of? Surely there aren't people using P2P networks to commit copyright infringement!
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Just looked up exeem.com on whois...looks like a caribbean island is a good place to be if the MPAA comes calling...take a look for yourself:
Administrative Contact:
Swarm, Systems Inc. contact@exeem.com
Swarm Systems Inc.
Suite 4 Tample Building, Main
Charlestown 1000
Saint Kitts and Nevis
304568187
Technical Contact:
Swarm, Systems Inc. contact@exeem.com
Swarm Systems Inc.
Suite 4 Tample Building, Main
Charlestown 1000
Saint Kitts and Nevis
304568187
make sure you read the readme file
Lately I'm beginning to wish it was called STFU/Linux.
...?
Crap!
Anyone hosting a torrent for the exeem beta?
I'd check suprnova.org but you know... lol
Hey! No need for trackers! Hurrah! Peers can just find each other automatically! Gosh, I wonder how that works -- could it be a standardized port range? And could that make it incredibly easy to throttle, track and persecute BitTorrent use?!?!
If my hunch is correct, these guys are morons. The nominal point of Exeem is to reduce the ability of copyright owners to sue pirates. Actually, it'll make it much easier for BigChampagne and others to track down users and prosecute them. Way to go, guys.
Please note that I'm not making a moral judgment about piracy -- please withhold the flames. My point is simply that the Exeem architecture, while created to fix BT's legal vulnerability, is actually likely to enhance it.
I'll wait for a new version of eXeem lite and then an OSS implementation for emule
edit the above: "prosecute" BitTorrent use. Persecute certainly does imply a moral judgment. Sorry for the malapropism.
from the exeem-faq:
How can eXeem(TM) be free?
eXeem(TM) is supported only by ad revenue. This allows the developers to continue making upgrades to the network and enhancing the eXeem client for you.
bittorent-faq:
BitTorrent is great! How can I help?
You can give a donation.
see the difference?
exeem-faq:
Is eXeem(TM) open source?
No, eXeem(TM) is not open source.
bittorrent-faq:
What license is BitTorrent released under?
MIT License, which basically lets you do anything you want with it so long as you leave the license notification in the source.
bittorent is there, it's widespread, does not contain any ads, the source code is available, runs on anything that runs python (means mac/win/linux and a lot more)
and btw the author lives from the paypal donations he receives from the happy users.
somehow the suprnova people do not understand these things...
hasn't eMule and the ed2k network been doing this sort of thing for a long time? Sure there are servers, but the serverless kademlia network has been around for a while. Is exeem going to be any faster than the firmly established ed2k network?
There is still a centralized server to connect to the network.
Expect the publicity they've managed to recieve to cause eXeem to cease to exist within a few months. I'm sure that MPAA lawyers are waiting with an ambush the day this is released publically and the first movie is posted.
If you are really interested in downloading it, you can download it from FileForum as the main site is down.
But please beware. It does constain spyware!
As stated in their privacy policy:
The ads appearing on the Exeem.com Web site and within eXeem(TM) application are delivered by our web advertising partner, Cydoor. Information about users of eXeem(TM) and Exeem.com, such as the number of times they have viewed an ad (but not user name, address, or other personal information), is used to serve ads to users. If you would like more information about Cydoor, please visit. Ads that might appear outside Exeem.com and eXeem(TM) application are Opt-out ads, that you have a chance to uninstall. Outside Exeem.com and eXeem(TM) application is eXeem's Toolbar LookSmart.
Thanks, but I'll wait for eXeem E++
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Here's the torrent: http://www.lokitorrent.com/download.php?id=104617
Heh, meant to write "who will the *AA's sue now". Freudian slip.
.torrent nor the tracker.
Anybody seeding/leeching in the swarm. I've seen letters of complains for users sharing with bittorrent, not hosting the
No sig
"This allows for Kazaa-style searching..." ... of your internet activity?
Decentralization may be a good step, but this still doesn't stop folks from plaguing the network with spyware/fakes/decoys/etc. There needs to be a karma system built in so files/users can be scored by the decentralized user community, and filtered on those scores.
...anybody has a crack for eXeem 0.2? :}
http://www.exlite.net for the "lite" spyware/adware free version (I had sumbitted this story too with this included - but no, it got rejected *sigh*).
It's the 0.18 beta which asks for a key, but until a lite of 0.20 is released, if you close the window asking for a beta key, the program will work.
The official 0.20 client is confirmed to include Cydoor and SearchSquire right out of the box.
Give it time.
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Exeem uses libtorrent as its codebase, with extra coding for the decentralized tracker. Libtorrent is an open source GPL'd C++ implementation of the bittorrent protocol. The only requirements for compiling it are support for STL and the latest Boost. This means it works in Windows, Linux, Mac OSX... even cygwin! It's also a library, so it can be plugged into any application.
I've had many communications with the creator, and he's a very cool guy and quite dedicated to the work. I helped a little with debugging, etc, but my main interest at the time was using it to in my own graphical interface. I never completed the project, but I still feel a good connection to libtorrent.
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I hate people like you who fail to notice this is a vicious circle. The result of each new rip-off-the-XXAA program is a reduction in our rights. Sure, there will always be another response. The end result is to hurt the people who have legitimate (legal) uses for stuff like BT. Now go download all that stuff you want but don't feel is good enough to pay for $h|t Bag.
"The ads appearing on the Exeem.com Web site and within eXeem(TM) application are delivered by our web advertising partner, Cydoor. Information about users of eXeem(TM) and Exeem.com, such as the number of times they have viewed an ad (but not user name, address, or other personal information), is used to serve ads to users."
Cydoor is given a 7/10 Threat Assessment level by lavasoft.de, makers of AdAware.
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The company behind Exeem (there is indeed a company, and they are going to be profiting, which raises some interesting legal questions) basically paid the creator of Suprnova for the rights to use his name and to basically say that Exeem is the next Suprnova. In layman's terms: They bought his credibility and userbase.
Personally, that doesn't matter that much to me. If it works, and gets as large as Suprnova with more protection and overall improvements...well, what do I care if they make money off of it. However, I will NOT tolerate any spyware/adware (a banner ad in the window is fine) bundled with it. Thankfully the makers of Exeemlite have taken care of this. I wonder how aggressively the folks at Exeem will handle this. The folks over at Sharman Networks (Kazaa) basically cut off everybody else on Kazaalite from their existing network.
So, in conclusion, I don't care if they make money as long as it helps protect me, and gives me more value than Suprnova did, and I will not tolerate any spyware/adware. If they screw that up, they've just screwed themselves.
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OK, I think I'll pass.
since its not openscource and there is no linux version we were discussing if there is any thruth to this:
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24,000 users and only 11 hits for porn
"supported by ad revenue ..." I stopped reading right there.
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Shouldn't this be "wine can run it too"? Wine, you know, works also under other operating systems than linux. Oh, you didn't care about them, sorry.
Forget it. Bittorrent as we have all come to know and love is not dead. It is just moved around a bit. Its still quite easy to find plenty of torrent files out there.
Exeem is a money making scheme and thats about it. Its not to be trusted.
With bittorrent everyone's IPs are in plain sight on a plainly visible central tracker. No matter what Exeem does I can't see how it could make it "much easier" to track people down.
That said I don't think the nominal point of Exseem is to "reduce the ability of copyright owners to sue pirates". Individual pirates will probably be as attackable as ever (you simply can't offer something to the public without them knowing it came from you in an efficient manner otherwise). It just aims to remove the risk of a central point of failure, the tracker, being attacked (legally or otherwise).
It's possible that Exeem could make users open to more prosecution though. Typically Bittorrent users can be seen uploading/downloading one piece of content at a time. If Exeem decentralises in such a way that their computers are also taking part in indexing and tracking downloads then arguably they are involving themselves with more copyright violation than with Bittorrent.
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If you want to install Cydoor, by all means try this beta. If you'd rather not install not spyware, stay away from this one folks.
./ editors should have included this in the article summary before they posted this one. Now Cydoor just got a bunch of new sucke^H^H^H^H^Hcustomers.
The
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We already have things like MUTE and others. Sure it's "de-centralized" but also unsecure (non-encrypted, maybe a fixed portrange) and closed source. And on top of all it has spyware!
Absoluetly nothing in this sounds tempting enough even to try it out. So i just ask: Why?
You might want to check out this FAQ, particularly point 2.
Say, are those popups jumping on your desktop?
Wine isn't an option. I was used to running my .torrents on a "gruntwork" box, I'd copy .torrent files I wanted to a public share on that box, which would be running a "screen btlaunchmanycurses.py ~", a console-mode version of bittorrent that continuously scans the folder (my home folder ~) for .torrents, and downloads them.
.torrents from exeem and then export them to oldschool bittorrent?
I'd check up on it by ssh'ing in and doing a "screen -x".
So, what's I to do now? Install all the bloat of X and Wine? Because frankly, Win98 runs better on this old box I use for the task (an old P200/MMX)
It's an outside shot, but any chances of an ncurses based exeem client in the mix?
Or, can I get
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a P2P company is going to be profiling its users - and you;re worried about spyware?
Can you imagine the legal field-day if the RIAA got hold of Exeem's user profiles, with records of everything they downloaded?
I have been a user for about 10 years. This ends Feb 2014. The site's been ruined. I'm off. Dice, FU
- it's multi protocol (Web + Donkey + Torrent + Gnutella + G2 + etc...)
- it has a client/server design, were you can let mlDonkey core run on your home Linux server 24/24, and remotly connect (with GUI, or with a webbrowser) to control downloads from your workstation.
- it written in a managed language (NO WAY to do buffer overruns : very secure)
It's my favorite and that what I run on my home linux server.
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What no bittorrent download?
3. Do I need a serial? No, you DO NOT need a serial to use eXlite, simply close the serial window that pops up on startup
Yeah, the paper I am sharing is called "Amateur *nal sluts" err does that count as copyright infringement?
Everyone was hoping that this would replace Suprnova.
Sad news- it doesn't.
The dead memory of Suprnova has been replaced by a spyware infested program that is marketed under the guise of being a Suprnova replacement.
If you like clogging your system up with programs such as Cydoor, be my guest. But if not, reject this filth.
So, now that the trackers and torrents are distributed, the first person to cobble together an aggregating site wtih categories will be shut down for what reason exactly?
The eXeem links work:
Kylie_Minogue_no_underwear_clip.mpg
You could easily build a community around them. Will bloggers be 'cease and deceased' for posting eXeem links? Will Google filter out all exeem links that it crawls?
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The Sourceforge page incorrectly lists the license as BSD. The COPYING file in the archive contains the GPL2 license. Unfortunately, none of the source files contain a license header.
Does anyone know if this is a problem?
The Grateful Dead and a couple of thousand other bands (including, as of a couple of years ago, the estate of Jimi Hendrix) allow non-commercial distribution of their concert recordings. Non-commercial! But by making this an ad-driven product, the bozos behind eXeem have ensured that it can't even be used to legally distribute most music that can ordinarily be legally traded on the Internet. Thanks but no thanks. I'll stick with ordinary bittorrent, which at least has some measurable legal uses. :)
Well firstly, it's already been said in previous Slashdot posts that it's a company responsible for this, who the former owner of Suprnova has some sort of agreement with, which gives them credibility that they don't necessarily deserve (yet.)
But in the grand scheme of things, the client isn't open source, so you really don't know what's going on in there. And what's worse, the EULA revokes your right to disassemble / reverse-engineer the software, so they may well crack down on anyone trying to distribute an open source version:
Secondly, from the privacy policy:
So the app spams you with ads, and what's worse, Wikipedia has this to say about Cydoor:
So you're not only spammed with ads, you're installing spyware. This is confirmed by eXeem Lite's FAQ:
A closed source, advert spamming, spyware installing pile of crap that you are expressly forbidden from reverse engineering... sounds like a whole barrel of laughs.
As far as I'm concerned, eXeem can go and fornicate itself with an iron stick.
I can't even do half-assed wine emulation to run this kind of thing. Way to take an open source and open platform protocol and make a spyware ridden windows program with it dudes. I never used Suprnova anyway, I stick to sites which require user logins and have a real community.
where are the mod points when you need them ?
In response to their lame inclusion of spyware in this application everyone should post this link (or one like it): http://www.spywareguide.com/product_show.php?id=7 in: irc://irc.suprnova.org/suprnova.org Enjoy...it is too bad suprnova is dead :(
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From within the program: "Future updates will include bug fixes, more customizable program, skinning program, linux console version, and additional functions to ease the use of the program! "
So there you have it, your headless linux version is on the way. And of course there is always WINE.
eXeem seems to work by keeping a list of peers in the registry. on installation, the list is preloaded with a set of central servers with bizarre dns names like domina.joethelover.com, muffin.tropicalbambus.com, godzilla.sloppyslippers.com and carrot.tomato6pack.com (incidently they all seem to resolve to the same host - 83.149.87.156 located in the netherlands). on the first run, these servers are contacted and act somewhat like normal bittorrent trackers (just a basic peer discovery service). they return a list of other peer's addresses and ports, which is stored so they don't need to be consulted on every run.
the downsides to this arrangement are:
a) this single host is a prime target for legal and network attacks. if it were to be taken down, no new people could join the network.
b) there's a possiblity that the list of peers goes so stale that reconnecting to the network is impossible. maybe exeem will try the above central servers again in this case. if not, it's very very possible that the network will splinter and split.
-bg9k
ok , so it supports torrents, but includes cydoor
crap so you can get ads.
here is what i want.
no fcsking ads.
a decntralized torrent client, that masks your IP and does not contain logs anywhere.
now that will be a much nicer clients.
so they took some good elements of torrent, but did not improve on it. and the worst elements of other p2p software.
bleh
Has cydoor apps - a spyware company.
Relies on ad revenues, is NOT open-source, uses a non-bittorrent-compatible file format, runs in Linux on an emulator..... two words, -> NOT GOOD.
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This program is NOT written by the guys at SuprNova.org. It is simply endorsed by the guys at SuprNova.org. Listen to the radio interviews with for verification.
Anyone else forsee the doom of the technology for simply being mentioned on Slashdot? I always thought that would be an obvious effect. Mentioning it on slashdot is like broadcasting what our new secret weapon is before we can even use it. I see things crashing down on Exeem faster than any other Torrent related program or site simply because of this article, and its previous association with Suprnova
Please can someone tell me what is the difference with this and eMule
a)You don't need to set up a honeypot. Any public tracker will just tell you the IP addresses of anyone connected to it. It would be effortless to gather that data over a period of time and identify some heavy users (particularly seeders) to pursue seriously.
b)For all intents and purposes Bittorrent operates over well defined ports anyway.
I simply can't see how Exeem can make it easier to automate the process of suing people. Everything with bittorrent happens in plain sight at a well known address.
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The company that created Exeem is located in the carribean. The MPAA/RIAA can't touch them.
The site/servers seem to be hosted in the netherlands. The RIAA/MPAA might be able to get something done there, but that won't stop Swarm Systems from moving their servers to another country, even the carribean.
So, what legitimate, legal use does this program have? Yep, I didn't think so.
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There's a big probleme with commercial application going to linux. For most enterprises : "Linux" = "A windows compatible x86 machine running Linux instead of Windows". I bet their linux console version will be just a x86 binary, compiled on a Fedora Core machine (a that could run maybe on SuSE Linux if you fix a couple of missing libraries). Hello ! There a lot of other architectures on which Linux runs ! And this specially important for internet related software, because there's a lot of MIPS-powered hardware hacked to run Linux. (I'm not speaking about the Linksys WT54G - it doesn't have a harddisc. I'm speaking about a lot of Linux+MIPS based file servers running Samba. They are good candidate to run p2p downloaders). And I won't even mention Wine : It requires a X11 server and it's everything but what is needed for a headless server.
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Yes I do.
As I do know that buffer overruns aren't the only available way to compromise a system.
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Suprnova.. Torrent happiness right?
...Fair use. You leave us alone.
RIAA/MPAA: Close Suprnova!
Suprnova: No! Fair use! Fair use!
RIAA/MPAA: We'll sue your pants off in court.
Suprnova:
RIAA/MPAA: Even if we lose, you'll be bankrupt.
Suprnova: Ok. We give up.
RIAA/MPAA: Good. Now, produce a "decentralized" P2P program that lets us find all the old ladies and 9 year olds who are trading mp3s and movies and destroy their souls forever with our blade of lawsuits +5!
Suprnova: But... Damn... Pwned...
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I hope their new trackerfree bittorrent network will be faster it takes to download their program...
I think we can keep recursing like this until someone returns 1
It doesn't. But fortunately it is irrelevant for us, for we only use torrent to download Knoppix ISOs and Linux kernels in the first place, right?
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eXeem has nothing going for it except for the de-centralized tack on. Theres also the fact that the network is NOT opensource meaning only eXeem can connect to the eXeem network. My personal opinion: Waste of time and effort.
Torrent is so 2004. Don't you have an eXeem download link?
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From the FAQ:
:)
"Is Exeem Open Source?
No, Exeem is not open source."
That means that it doesn't work on my platform, won't share with people I want to share with on other platforms, and it's against my Free Software principles too. So, to quote Good Will Hunting, "I'm holding out for something better."
"stuff i am looking for" filetype:torrent
smash.
I run: Windows, OS X, Linux, FreeBSD. Just because you have a hammer, doesn't mean everything is a nail.
hmmm ... windows only
hmmmmm ... source unavailible
hmmmmmmmmm ... ADWARE
*peeks over to azureus*
hm, does the thing just as good. And why would I want decentralized bittorent when I'm just downloading distribution ISO files?
Screw the FSM - Real geeks believe in the Invisible Pink Unicorn
eXeem Lite 0.18
Giving it a spin in VPC7/Win2ksp4 on 10.3(Panther) and it seems to run great, even in the background.
And since it's a virtual machine, I don't really care if it gets mucked up.
I saw this post on the libtorrent mailing list a while ago.
If its true, the authors of Exeem modified libtorrent and used it in their application. I am sure that the authors of libtorrent are quite happy that some people can earn money by advertising using some of their work.
I wish it was easier to find something that can be controled like WASTE.
I'm trying to setup a private network between me and a couple of friends, but it needs to be cross platform because some have mac's and some use linux. the problem is WASTE's Mac client sucks and none of the people who use Mac's can get it to work it just crashes constantly.
Anyone have any suggestions?
moo.
how is this better than KaZaA i mean the creator even said it's going to be ad loaded? i'm definatly not installing this.
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I like BitTorrent because you can start a torrent, it runs at 50-100% of http speeds, and finishes quickly. I don't like other p2p apps, because downloads take ages to start, and when they do they go slowly, even for popular files (maybe because of my router, but the point remains). So, I start up eXeem (with wine). I try to download remove_cydoor_from_exeem.exe. I wait. I wait some more. Has the download started? No.
Not impressed.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134449&cid=112 24706
Anyhow, I've booted it up a few times. When I click refresh on new files, it starts making TCP/IP connections to port 4000 of various hosts. I then send the TCP/IP header plus the packet itself. In hexidecimal value, these packets usually begin "02-04-05". Then I send "b4-04-02-08-0a". Then I send "00-XX-XX-XX-00-00-00-00-01-03-03-00". The X's change each connection - they seem to be incrementing. So that's my handshake. The response also begins "02-04-05" with 9 bytes after that. Then I send 10 bytes. That's when the remote host starts sending me big packets.
Well, I just started looking at it so it's still a mystery although I think I've seen some patterns. Anyhow, anyone interested in this can discuss it here, or go on the usual Freenode IRC channels (#p2p-hackers, #bittorrent etc.)
The company that created Exeem is located in the carribean. The MPAA/RIAA can't touch them.
:-)
;-)
It would help if you explained why?
You mean, as in no airport? lol, just kidding
I mean, they've managed to take international actions before, quite recently.
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
naaah.. everyone HERE uses p2p for perfectly legal stuff
it's the people on other sites that use P2P for illegal activities.
I believe sex is highly over rated... unless it involves me
This is an excellent explanation of the problems and solutions to peer to peer privacy.
I scanned with my Ad aware SE ( newest update) and it didnt pick up any spyware after installing Exeem..
As far as i can tell (and adaware can tell), there isn't any spyware installed, at least no outside of the exeem executable itself. No such DLLs exist... no such registry addresses exist... of course i don't care much about my windows partition anyway i figure they just use said company for ads, and maybe when they're out of beta they'll add that nice spyware, but so far no ads even show up so i don't think they've even integerated anything from CyDoor yet
I admit, I was very skeptical about eXeem but after giving it a quick try, i'm pleasantly surprised. Of course, I'm going to uninstall it immediately and clean my computer from the filth that is cydoor but i'm getting eXeem lite as soon as it comes out.
If people flock to it, this'll be the greatest p2p app yet.
ON'T-DAY ENTIONMAY IRATEPAY BAYAY! Now repeat after me: "With Suprnova gone I don't even know where to go to get my .torrent files. I can't seem to find them after the **AA shut down all my favorite copyright-infringing sites. Instead of downloading Elektra and Ashlee Simpson's new album, I purchased them from a retail store at the manufacturer's suggested retail price. Thank you MPAA and RIAA for making the world a better place. You can rest easy knowing you've stopped piracy forever."
Wherever he goes and hides from now on, his credibility rating just dropped way below absolute zero for this. Let these words always follow him around;
Sloncek - YOU are now the very definition of L8m3. Forever.
Someone out there with a crowbar, find him and tell him that personally.
see here
In order to take international action, they need the consent of governments in those countries. Some just don't give a damn or don't like the US trying to be international police. Sweden, i guess, is one of these. RIAA/MPAA/Corporate America can do nothing, as they have no jurisdiction.
More, this doesn't give us anything more than the traditional p2p proggies, so why use it?
Hmm, let's see...
There are three generations of p2p protocols. The 1st are the centralized protocols. This isn't. The 2nd are descentralized. The 3rd gives us stuff like efficiency, reliability and anonymity. This doesn't.
I undertand why thy did this (I'm quite sure they'll win some good money with it...) but I don't understand why will people still use old-generation p2p proggies...
Take a look on GNUnet, Freenet, I2P, Entropy...
Mind Booster Noori
I only have one word to describe this program: UGH.
Do I say this because the program itself is bad? Not really. I only ran it once, played around with it a little, and decided I might use it sometime if I had a hard time locating something on gnutella and such.
Now I generally use Avant as my browser, but by pure coincidence, I happened to open up IE this evening. After closing it, I got some kind of popup for some comedy place. An icon appeared in my system tray. Then another popup. I suddenly realized what had happened.
UGH is to describe the fact that eXeem is now classified as garbage software in my book. The very idea that they would include spyware and adware with it has tarnished their reputation with me forever. It's just plain wrong to distribute trash like that with an application.
I decided to give Microsoft's AntiSpyware a run for its money and started it up. LOW AND BEHOLD, the spyware and adware started being detected. I want to point out that I ran this very scan only a few days ago, with nothing found. Nothing has been installed since which would have installed this stuff. And since eXeem is known to install adware/spyware, I know that it's responsible for ALL of this garbage, as I'm very very careful as to what I put on here for that very reason.
I actually want to give kudos to Microsoft for it doing such a good job at finding and removing everything. They did some good work with this program it seems.
Just to note, one of the pieces of junk in particular is said to allow other software to be downloaded and installed. WTF? Who writes this garbage?
I'll tell you who. Greedy, greedy people. The internet is becoming overrun with ads by such people. Even television is being raped by ads, which appear all over your television shows while you're trying to watch'em. The same is happening with websites, where these Flash ads will appear all over the screen when you're trying to see something. It's pathetic. What has our media come to? But the worst evil of all of this is adware.
So, I say this to every person out there that sees this and writes adware/spyware. I'm anxious for the day when the laws come into place, which will send you all to jail. This is where you deserve to be, for writing this virus-like software. It's no less destructive than anything else any "hacker" puts together, with the exception of sticking ads in peoples faces. There's no excuse for it, and people won't tolerate it.
I suggest that everyone boycott eXeem in whatever way possible. Don't use it, don't mention it (at least in anything other than negative light), refuse advertisements on your sites for it, don't let people link to it on comments or forums (by editing the post to remove the url or something, or posting a follow-up about the adware), etc.
And I don't just mean this particular program. I'm talking about all the software of this nature which installs junk like this. If enough people spread the bad word about them and prevent anyone from possibly downloading it, these people will slowly get forced out of business. I have no problem with these people standing in the unemployment line to look for real jobs.
The fact of the matter is, if something isn't done about the explosion of advertising, there's just not going to be anything left BUT ads.
While it indeed sucks that not only is this software not open source, but also includes spyware, at least it still seems to work just fine after removing Cydoor. While it holds promise, the lack of an open source project (especially when it includes GPL code, grrrr) will certainly hinder its progress. Now, if the authors actively moderated the network like they did Suprnova,org, I could see the justification for ad revenue, but this would open them up to legal liability, obviously, so that's not going to happen. We'll see how the peer review feature works. The implementation in eMule works fairly well (though far from perfect) so at least there's hope. eMule is still, IMO, the most technically impressive network, especially when considering the incredible success of Kademlia But it's just so much slower than Bittorrent and uses so many connections and ports that every single software firewall I have tried has caused speed problems with it and/or excessive CPU/memory usage. This is why I have high hopes for eXeem; the speed and leanness of the bittorrent protocol when compared with others if its generation.
While installing eXeem, simply agree to the license agreement for the spyware and then on the next screen click 'cancel' - you continue with the config process without installing any spyware at all. I've done a searh and had it running for a few minutes now. No ads within the app and Ad-Aware confirms that my system lacks spyware. Somehow, I doubt this'll last very long.
exeem is not free software.
exeem is not open source software.
exeem is not your friend.
exeem IS a million headaches waiting to happen.
exeem IS a steaming pile of crap piece of software designed by retards who love to do nothing more than turn peoples computers into broken piles of shit that do nothing but comprimise the privacy of the owner and make money for the shit piles that think their human that make this garbage.
Says based on bittorrent protocol: Not the case. It's based on the bittorrent IDEA.
Not a Twitter sockpuppet... but I wish I was.
do a little research guys. Cydoor is actually a respecteble ADware comapny now. NOT spyware. If you don't want to use it because you choose not to believe, then fine. Anyone who visited suprnova.org before got ads from the EXACT same ad company.
I was under the impression that the only files being traded through P2P were research papers, Linux distributions, and independent music files.
Some would claim that "independent music files" are illegal, as the major music publishers have enough clout to talk a judge into believing that they own all possible melodies.
Torrent is so 2004.
And eDonkey is so 2003, but that's where all the (non-pornographic) amputee videos are.
Don't you have an eXeem download link [to get eXeem]?
Likewise, how do you compile your C compiler?
Elaborate, please. BitTorrent itself is released under the MIT license.
The license for BitTorrent 3.9.0 and later has changed to something called the "BitTorrent Open Source License". No, I don't know whether this new license is GPL compatible, because Google doesn't seem to find the text of the license anywhere on the web.
http://www.livejournal.com/users/bramcohen/7932.ht ml
"I don't work for Valve Software any more, and haven't for a while."
why?
"I suggest reading The Mythical Man-Month, in particular pay attention to what it says about adding people to troubled projects."
The proper link:
mlDonkey
Repeat: Do not follow parent link!
It may just be me... the fact that nobody else is complaining about it makes me think that it may just be me... but I can do searches, but never start a download. I can't see anything being blocked at my HW firewall.
The FAQ says it can take an hour or so to start a download... say WHAT? Why don't I just use Azureus? By the time Exeem starts the download, I'll have already downloaded 2 or 3 copies of the files using Az!
Yes, I've already removed the adware. And now goes the app...
Why not get a JOB so you won't have to STEAL ? Seems like a reasonable question to ask. Can you answer it ? Or this no-job-no-pay the whole idea of OSs/Linux/FreeAsBeer ideal ?
An X11 server. An.
Moderate parent down. Grammatical mistake makes post complete garbage and not worth reading.
It's unfortunate that they aren't opening this protocol as BitTorrent was.
So they've cerated a new P2P network with the intetion of being the sole point of control? What's the point? If they're ever getting to anything like a decent network size then the sole point of control comes under legal or other attack. This is just stupid. They're obviously not interested in learning from the past. Complete waste of effort.
Spyware? Hardly. It installs adware, which is an entirely different thing.
That should be a +6.
okay, so i shouldn't give the non open-source :P that runns on the always-on ...
camp any ideas, but it's been buggyinh me for a
while now.
you see i have this linux server (suse) and it's
connected with one eth to the router. with another
to the lan.
now, my request would be to have a server version
of the client
server. now if someone wants to do p2p, instead
of having to put up this forwarding rule (which
can only forward to ONE machine at a time), why
not "burden" the server? so to speak, connect
to the local server, tell it what to get. maybe
even turn of the workstation and let the server
do the downloading over night
yeah know and since we're having stupid ideas, why
not make this p2p swarm program in java, which
i can host on my local apache?
thak you for your time! have a nice day!
Hay i herd it has spiwar si tat tru????
WARNIN :
:
I DIDN'T CHECK MY URLS !!!
There's a missing dot in the url
it should be http://www.mldonkey.net/ !!!
Not wwwmldonkey.net
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
Thank you for pointing me the error.
:
I missed the first dot.
The url should be
http://www.mldonkey.net
wwwmldonkey.net is a fake/dialer site.
(To AC: Of course I don't use the dialer.)
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Thank you for pointing the error :
:
I made a typo and missed the first dot.
The URL should be
www.mldonkey.net
wwwmldonkey (no dot) is a FAKE/Dialer site.
"Sufficiently advanced satire is indistinguishable from reality." - [Tips: 1DrYakQDKCQ6y52z6QbnkxHXAocMZJE61o ]
The eXeem central server is located in a trap-ridden lair, below an active volcano. Routinely infiltrated by secret agents, of course.
Yea, the tool bar is spy ware. If they put it in the IE tool bar I wouldn't be at all suprised to find it tucked away in the application. Very disappointing coming from the people who gave us suprnova... *sign*
If you must!
So long as the blowers don't fail the service will stay up ;)
Apparently there are two libtorrent projects. One of them is GPL, and the other is BSD.
Ok I installed it, didn't have time to bother with trying it out so I just ignored it for a few hours. I quickly noticed major computer slowdown and a few pop ups (also I could not get outlook to connect to my mail server for some reason??) I uninstalled it (fixed outlook problem) but not all the adware was removed. My attempts to remove it with spy bot and norton antiviris 2004 made the problem worse. I can't get that computer onto any network now (LAN or dialup) and I'm contemplating staying up all night to reinstall everything (have to find a few drivers first) but I'm praying I can find another option first. (It's a brand new comp and I finaly got it how I want it)