"My friend and colleague Stuart Halloway, one of the foremost experts on Ajax, begins a JavaScript class with a provocative statement: "By 2011, we will recognize JavaScript as a language with a better set of features for developing modern applications." He then says that JavaScript programs are often 10 times as dense as similar Java programs and goes on to show the language features that make it so."
The author seems to equate dense with good, not an association I make
I have used the OpenOffice.org write module to produce three 50,000+ word documents (around 200 A4 pages), plus almost everything else I have written in the last three years. I have never lost any work.
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Quick search on the nearest Job board Occurances of the word Java 3043 Occurances of the word Ruby 30 Reports of death seriously exaggerated
Every time OpenOffice gets a story someone says it is written in Java. I just want to get the pre-emptive comment that only a few components of OpenOffice depend on Java and it is possible to run OpenOffice on a machine with no Java whatsoever with very little loss of functionality.
I trained as a teacher and the Headfirst books use an approach that is designed about how most people learn, not simply to deliver information. They ran a risky course with the chance that people might find the illustrations distracting rather than educational. But it works for most people
"Hummm... at the end of the day, a USA corporation may be held legally liable. Do you really expect me to try to recover damages from a stinky teenager deep in Soviet Russia"
As opposed to the enormous success corporations have had in recovering damages from major commercial software vendors?
It seems to have very little to do with the purchase cost of the PC's. An analogy that might help comparison is if you decided to run a fleet of vehicles and decided to do in house maintenence. You would have significant costs in hiring the staff to work on the vehicles, the garage space for that work to be done, the tools for the staff, and other sundry costs. Now it might make far more sense to outsource that work but the article doesn't throw much light on it. From the end of your comment you don't seem to have read the article. Why not make a habit of learning a little about whatever it is you are commenting on in public, that way you will appear to be more informed.
Although there is merit in the thrust of your argument, PC hardware does cost more in the UK. You would be very hard pressed to buy a somewhat functional equivalent Linux workstation at the UK equivalent of Fry's for $199 (around £104). For example the cheapest machine from www.morgancomputers.co.uk is about $211 or around $400. Perhaps someone can find cheaper, and bulk buy would get you a discount but those are reasonable indicative prices.
Is it really the hard work that gets rewarded? I got the impression that there were millions of people in the US who work very hard indeed and are still relatively poor.
Yes you are right, Java is not popular at all. In fact I am always amazed at the way there are more adverts for Java jobs than just about any other skill (usually number 1 sometimes number 2) when hardly anyone uses it. I guess the companies just like paying for adverts for the fun of it.
Quick and dirty is always dirty and in the long run never as quick.
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Yes the awful Java requirements of OpenOffice.org has given me sooo many problems during the years I have been running it on a machine with no JVM at all. I find that the only things I can use it for are word processing (ODF and.DOC), slide shows, spreadsheets and a bit of drawing. I have felt crippled by the need for Java to run the auto pilots and export to docbook format, but I simply don't have the money to purchase a copy of the over priced Sun JVM. In fact I think I'll download that shiny version of KOffice for my WinXP machines right now, anyone got the URL of KOffice 1.6 for Win32?
As republican supporters were almost entirely catholic and loyalists were almost entirely protestant, it would be forgivable to conclude that there might have been an element of religion involved.
Ah, yes Small Talk was invented in that famous French research facility Xerox Parc. And for those that don't know Xerox is a Paris (France) based corporation and Parc is an acronym for Palo Alto Research Centre, Palo Alto being just to the North of Paris. When Steve Jobs went on his famous trip to see the Parc GUI development work he got on a plane to France for several hours, bla bla nonsense, dribble (Feel free to insert your own misleading rubbish as a response).
It seems you are not arguing against copyright per-se (which was the position of the original post) but against the length of copyright and possibly the extension of copyright after the death of the author. Seems like a very reasonable argument to me, and I agree. If the purpose of copyright is to encourage creativity by awarding a temporary monopoly on the control of reproduction, I cannot see how I will be encourage to be creative once I am dead.
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"My friend and colleague Stuart Halloway, one of the foremost experts on Ajax, begins a JavaScript class with a provocative statement: "By 2011, we will recognize JavaScript as a language with a better set of features for developing modern applications." He then says that JavaScript programs are often 10 times as dense as similar Java programs and goes on to show the language features that make it so."
The author seems to equate dense with good, not an association I make
I have used the OpenOffice.org write module to produce three 50,000+ word documents (around 200 A4 pages), plus almost everything else I have written in the last three years. I have never lost any work.
Quick search on the nearest Job board
Occurances of the word Java
3043
Occurances of the word Ruby
30
Reports of death seriously exaggerated
Every time OpenOffice gets a story someone says it is written in Java. I just want to get the pre-emptive comment that only a few components of OpenOffice depend on Java and it is possible to run OpenOffice on a machine with no Java whatsoever with very little loss of functionality.
Meaningless apart from influencing the decision making of tens of thousands of developers.
I trained as a teacher and the Headfirst books use an approach that is designed about how most people learn, not simply to deliver information. They ran a risky course with the chance that people might find the illustrations distracting rather than educational. But it works for most people
"Hummm... at the end of the day, a USA corporation may be held legally liable. Do you really expect me to try to recover damages from a stinky teenager deep in Soviet Russia"
As opposed to the enormous success corporations have had in recovering damages from major commercial software vendors?
Is it any better than the source to IE?. Oh I forgot, we can't look at that so we cannot compare.
Why do you think that this is aimed at starving kids?
It seems to have very little to do with the purchase cost of the PC's. An analogy that might help comparison is if you decided to run a fleet of vehicles and decided to do in house maintenence. You would have significant costs in hiring the staff to work on the vehicles, the garage space for that work to be done, the tools for the staff, and other sundry costs. Now it might make far more sense to outsource that work but the article doesn't throw much light on it. From the end of your comment you don't seem to have read the article. Why not make a habit of learning a little about whatever it is you are commenting on in public, that way you will appear to be more informed.
Although there is merit in the thrust of your argument, PC hardware does cost more in the UK. You would be very hard pressed to buy a somewhat functional equivalent Linux workstation at the UK equivalent of Fry's for $199 (around £104). For example the cheapest machine from www.morgancomputers.co.uk is about $211 or around $400. Perhaps someone can find cheaper, and bulk buy would get you a discount but those are reasonable indicative prices.
According tol
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.htm
Median household income, 2003
$43,318
(Note that is household income not an individual).
So congratulations on your wealth, but don't be smug and dismissive.
Is it really the hard work that gets rewarded? I got the impression that there were millions of people in the US who work very hard indeed and are still relatively poor.
Did you mean simplistic? According to dictionary.com that word means
characterized by extreme simplism; oversimplified:
Yes you are right, Java is not popular at all. In fact I am always amazed at the way there are more adverts for Java jobs than just about any other skill (usually number 1 sometimes number 2) when hardly anyone uses it. I guess the companies just like paying for adverts for the fun of it.
Quick and dirty is always dirty and in the long run never as quick.
Yes the awful Java requirements of OpenOffice.org has given me sooo many problems during the years I have been running it on a machine with no JVM at all. I find that the only things I can use it for are word processing (ODF and .DOC), slide shows, spreadsheets and a bit of drawing. I have felt crippled by the need for Java to run the auto pilots and export to docbook format, but I simply don't have the money to purchase a copy of the over priced Sun JVM. In fact I think I'll download that shiny version of KOffice for my WinXP machines right now, anyone got the URL of KOffice 1.6 for Win32?
As republican supporters were almost entirely catholic and loyalists were almost entirely protestant, it would be forgivable to conclude that there might have been an element of religion involved.
It's not quite as simple as that. The UK puts on some lingerie before bending over.
What average size of documents do you work on (i.e. word count?)
Your sweeping, vague and unsubstantiated generalisations do not add to this discussion. Why not be slightly more specific?
The mozilla tools have a very strong history of supporting Win32 and Linux whereas Evolution has much less history with Win32.
Ah, yes Small Talk was invented in that famous French research facility Xerox Parc. And for those that don't know Xerox is a Paris (France) based corporation and Parc is an acronym for Palo Alto Research Centre, Palo Alto being just to the North of Paris. When Steve Jobs went on his famous trip to see the Parc GUI development work he got on a plane to France for several hours, bla bla nonsense, dribble (Feel free to insert your own misleading rubbish as a response).
"200 years was not necessarily hyperbole, just wait for the next series of continuing extensions"
So you can point to a juristiction that extends copyright to 200 years or you cannot? Could we have a URL.
It seems you are not arguing against copyright per-se (which was the position of the original post) but against the length of copyright and possibly the extension of copyright after the death of the author. Seems like a very reasonable argument to me, and I agree. If the purpose of copyright is to encourage creativity by awarding a temporary monopoly on the control of reproduction, I cannot see how I will be encourage to be creative once I am dead.