As cheap as the GameCuber controller feels compared to the dual shock and xbox controller.. I've NEVER had one break.
I can't even begin to tell you how many dual shock's I've had to buy because something inside breaks off and the whole flipping thing stops working. It happens to me almost every year.
I haven't had too many problems with my old xbox controllers either. I think I have more of a problem losing the other half of the break away cable. I hate that even though it's a great idea and works perfectly.
You use your mouse on your computer every day. It doesn't take more than slight wrist movements. I'm sure for most games the same will be true with the Wii remote. It's very sensative and most games probably won't require you to swing your arm around wildly like an idiot. and like you said.. you get use to it. I don't see how a little exercise is a bad thing? Annoying at first, sure.
I agree. I wouldn't call it unsuccessful either. You're right that it has probably done better than any other non-nintendo portable.
There is one problem though. It hasn't been selling games very well.
I don't understand why people judge success of a console based on number of consoles sold and not the number of games sold for that console.
Who cares if a million people buy something that they never play or buy games for? The console maker doesn't make any money this way, the gamer doesn't have much fun this way so how is it a success?
I'd rather sell half a million consoles and 10 million games than 10 million consoles and half a million games. Wouldn't you?
The only reason selling the most consoles makes you #1 is because you have the largest group of people to sell your games to.
To be honest I've never gotten more than 6 or 7 hours out of my DS. 8 hours tops, but I don't think I've ever gotten 8 hours out of it and I've owned 2 of them and about 30 different games.
I'm not sure about 40 hours either, but I dunno. I've never let my SP die all the way and it just blows me away how long that thing lasts. 40 hours though?
the fact that they weren't even close to meeting demand == lost money.
the fact that they didn't come close to selling what they hoped they would sell.
the fact that they gave away nearly as many units as they sold (haha.. maybe not, but they gave away 1 every 10 mins for months with Mt. Dew. that's how my rooommate got his. That was only one of *many* promotions giving them away).
the fact that up until about 2 weeks ago the GameCube was out selling the 360 in Japan which is one of the markets Microsoft went after HEAVILY and are still flopping even after a re-launch or what ever the hell they called it.
the fact that Microsoft has yet to make any kind of profit on the 360. They lost over $200 million this quarter alone in the division of their company that includes the 360.
I guess if selling out of your supply means success then you're right. Even if their supply was next to nothing.
"Microsoft's Home and Entertainment segment, which includes the Xbox division, posted a $213 million quarterly operating loss, bringing its total losses to $388 million."
The SHIPPED numbers seem ok though.
Perhaps they might actually make some money back once they start selling more of those $60 games.
Theres a lot more to throwing a real football. The way you grip the ball, your arm throwing motion, the spin you put on the ball, the strength at which you can throw the ball, the accuracy of your throws.
With the Revolution controller you'll swing your wrist in the direction of the reciever. It's not even as complicated as playing FPS games with a mouse. It's more comparable to playing a game of darts but with less throwing motion. (From what I've read the Revolution remote is very sensative and you can control things with just wrist movements so it's not like you'll have to swing your entire arm to make something happen)
It sounds like a cool idea to me. I hope baseball is next. You could use the controller to pitch and to swing the bat. That would be cool.
So why is there such a big market for joystick style controllers for flight simulators if a standard controller should work fine? Why do PC users swear by mouse and keyboard combo's when they could easily hook up a PS2 controller to their computer? What was the point of virtual reality of a normal TV should be good enough?
If you put your self in a bubble where the entire room is the screen and give your self a new controller (maybe the movement of your body? and a gun for shooting things?) and you've got your self a completely new gaming environment. How is the controller not a huge piece of this?
In gaming you have the hardware, the screen, the controller and the game its self. If they were all equal the controller would make up 25% of that. Thats huge.
If we always used the same flat screen and same basic controller how would we ever go anywhere with games? There would be very little freedom of what we could do.
The problem people seem to be having is that they aren't using their imginations. They are trying to fit our standard type of games we play today into Nintendos new concept and they just don't see how they can play all their favorite games. They refuse to think about NEW games and NEW ways of playing games.
When people think about sword fighting games, golf or baseball games for the Revolution they think of you swinging the controller around wildly or acting like a real base ball player and to me this just seems kind of stupid. I mean it could be fun but it doesn't have to be that crazy.
Think about a baseball game. you could use the joystick part of the controller to move your guy around by the plate and hold the remote in your hand. slight wrist movements would move the bat around. You could swing your wrist foward to swing the bat with out even having to move your entire arm. It would give you full control of how your guy holds the bat and how he swings it. It would add completely new level of skill and fun to the way the game is played.
There are tons of possibilities for a controller like the one for the Revolution but you're going to have to open your mind first.
No doubt. Docs for linux software aren't always the most helpful. I can very easily see why it would be frustrating for somebody who is new. It can be frustrating to people who aren't new some times too.
Then again there are some people who ask the same stupid question over and over again and refuse to learn it because they know they can just ask. That frustrates the hell out of me regardless of what OS it's for. Those same people are just as annoying when they ask Windows questions. I do try not to get angry at them but I will let them know I'm not answering that question again so they better learn it this time...
Not once you add all of the muscle, body fat and skin. The arm size shrinks a lot. Even if they didn't I've seen them and I don't see how it could possibly pick its self up with those arms. It might be able to do it but it would be a task. Maybe if it falls down next to a tree or something. Lets not forget that it can't catch its self from a fall easily and might break bones.
It might be fine taking an easy fall, but running full speed (what about 20-40mph or so? I dunno.) and taking a big fall? I don't think it could afford to do that.
The problem I have is that it seems like the first person who dug up a T-Rex bone took one look at it and said it's a predator and nobody has argued otherwise since then even though we have tons of other evidence to prove otherwise. Nobody wants to disapoint all of the little kids out there with their t-rex toys. shoot we were all one of those kids at one point in time right? maybe we don't want to disapoint our selves.
Take a look at the t-rex teeth and jaws. They were designed for crushing bones. Predators get first pick on meat and don't really have a need for all of that. The T-Rex looks like it was designed more for getting the left overs where you HAD to crush bones in order to get at the meat you want.
Yeah I wish they would re-release Meteos with online support that would be killer.
I read something on DSFanboy today. Looks like I might have jumped the gun on Meteos going out of production. Somebody sent mail to Nintendo and the response said the game was still being produced and shipping so no worries I guess.
Really? There are hacks and emulators out for the DS and not once has Nintendo released a firmware upgrade to try to stop it.
What firmware version are we on for the PSP again?
The point about money was that Sony HAS cheaper options but won't give them to us. The small memory cart that comes with the $250 option is worthless unless you only use it for playing games and even then you probably want something bigger eventually. What I was saying is where is the $200 option? I heard it was coming but I don't see it.
Who said the PSP lineup was mediocre because of lack of hardware?
You wouldn't say the situation was any better for the DS? What are you talking about?
When good games come out for the PSP I will be there to buy them. At this point we own maybe a combined total of 5 or 6 PSP games in our house. 3 of which I consider decent games. None of which still get any play time.
I don't mean to say the DS browser will be better because it's opera altho it has been around longer and is probably more feature complete (but I'm talking out my ass on that because I have no idea what features will be in the DS version).
I HAVE seen videos of it in action though and it looks a TON easier to use than the PSP version. You have a keyboard that you can easily type on or hand writing recognition (yup that is in there too) also there are different ways to surf on it you can have a zoomed in version with a little box you drag around to display the contents in that section on the upper screen or you have anormal mode that uses the top and bottom screens.
Plus you'll probably have less problems with memory since it comes with the Memory cart (which hopefully will let you save pages for offline browsing but I dunno if that'll happen)
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As cheap as the GameCuber controller feels compared to the dual shock and xbox controller.. I've NEVER had one break.
I can't even begin to tell you how many dual shock's I've had to buy because something inside breaks off and the whole flipping thing stops working. It happens to me almost every year.
I haven't had too many problems with my old xbox controllers either. I think I have more of a problem losing the other half of the break away cable. I hate that even though it's a great idea and works perfectly.
You use your mouse on your computer every day. It doesn't take more than slight wrist movements. I'm sure for most games the same will be true with the Wii remote. It's very sensative and most games probably won't require you to swing your arm around wildly like an idiot. and like you said.. you get use to it. I don't see how a little exercise is a bad thing? Annoying at first, sure.
I don't see why it would have to be any more aerobic than using a mouse on your computer.
I don't smell anything, and I feel like an idiot because somebody just walked by and saw my sniffing my screen.
You're the one who needs to be modded Troll not the rest of us.
Everybody else posted legit reasons on why they think this will or won't work.
All you did was call the DS a "gay stylus Nintendo dual screen hunk of junk"
Wait, you mean Microsoft is the reason we aren't playing Pong on our TV's?
Gee how Insightful.
I agree. I wouldn't call it unsuccessful either. You're right that it has probably done better than any other non-nintendo portable.
There is one problem though. It hasn't been selling games very well.
I don't understand why people judge success of a console based on number of consoles sold and not the number of games sold for that console.
Who cares if a million people buy something that they never play or buy games for? The console maker doesn't make any money this way, the gamer doesn't have much fun this way so how is it a success?
I'd rather sell half a million consoles and 10 million games than 10 million consoles and half a million games. Wouldn't you?
The only reason selling the most consoles makes you #1 is because you have the largest group of people to sell your games to.
To be honest I've never gotten more than 6 or 7 hours out of my DS. 8 hours tops, but I don't think I've ever gotten 8 hours out of it and I've owned 2 of them and about 30 different games.
I'm not sure about 40 hours either, but I dunno. I've never let my SP die all the way and it just blows me away how long that thing lasts. 40 hours though?
Jesus christ. This crap gets modded up? I mean it's kind of funny, but it's not even close to being true. Mod it +1 funny if anything.
Except that it's also a little more sweat inducing I hear
I want the Navy Blue. The white turns me off... I got burned out on that with iPods a looong time ago. Does anybody buy white iPods anymore?
I think the launch was a failure because of...
the fact that they weren't even close to meeting demand == lost money.
the fact that they didn't come close to selling what they hoped they would sell.
the fact that they gave away nearly as many units as they sold (haha.. maybe not, but they gave away 1 every 10 mins for months with Mt. Dew. that's how my rooommate got his. That was only one of *many* promotions giving them away).
the fact that up until about 2 weeks ago the GameCube was out selling the 360 in Japan which is one of the markets Microsoft went after HEAVILY and are still flopping even after a re-launch or what ever the hell they called it.
the fact that Microsoft has yet to make any kind of profit on the 360. They lost over $200 million this quarter alone in the division of their company that includes the 360.
I guess if selling out of your supply means success then you're right. Even if their supply was next to nothing.
And don't forget this: http://www.joystiq.com/2006/04/28/3-2-million-xbox -360s-sold-388-million-in-operating-losses/
"Microsoft's Home and Entertainment segment, which includes the Xbox division, posted a $213 million quarterly operating loss, bringing its total losses to $388 million."
The SHIPPED numbers seem ok though.
Perhaps they might actually make some money back once they start selling more of those $60 games.
So if they only made 2 boxes this entire time, but sold them both you would consider it a success?
What makes you think you'll have to move your arm? I doubt this will take much more wrist movement than using a mouse.
Theres a lot more to throwing a real football. The way you grip the ball, your arm throwing motion, the spin you put on the ball, the strength at which you can throw the ball, the accuracy of your throws.
With the Revolution controller you'll swing your wrist in the direction of the reciever. It's not even as complicated as playing FPS games with a mouse. It's more comparable to playing a game of darts but with less throwing motion. (From what I've read the Revolution remote is very sensative and you can control things with just wrist movements so it's not like you'll have to swing your entire arm to make something happen)
It sounds like a cool idea to me. I hope baseball is next. You could use the controller to pitch and to swing the bat. That would be cool.
So why is there such a big market for joystick style controllers for flight simulators if a standard controller should work fine? Why do PC users swear by mouse and keyboard combo's when they could easily hook up a PS2 controller to their computer? What was the point of virtual reality of a normal TV should be good enough?
If you put your self in a bubble where the entire room is the screen and give your self a new controller (maybe the movement of your body? and a gun for shooting things?) and you've got your self a completely new gaming environment. How is the controller not a huge piece of this?
In gaming you have the hardware, the screen, the controller and the game its self. If they were all equal the controller would make up 25% of that. Thats huge.
If we always used the same flat screen and same basic controller how would we ever go anywhere with games? There would be very little freedom of what we could do.
The problem people seem to be having is that they aren't using their imginations. They are trying to fit our standard type of games we play today into Nintendos new concept and they just don't see how they can play all their favorite games. They refuse to think about NEW games and NEW ways of playing games.
When people think about sword fighting games, golf or baseball games for the Revolution they think of you swinging the controller around wildly or acting like a real base ball player and to me this just seems kind of stupid. I mean it could be fun but it doesn't have to be that crazy.
Think about a baseball game. you could use the joystick part of the controller to move your guy around by the plate and hold the remote in your hand. slight wrist movements would move the bat around. You could swing your wrist foward to swing the bat with out even having to move your entire arm. It would give you full control of how your guy holds the bat and how he swings it. It would add completely new level of skill and fun to the way the game is played.
There are tons of possibilities for a controller like the one for the Revolution but you're going to have to open your mind first.
No doubt. Docs for linux software aren't always the most helpful. I can very easily see why it would be frustrating for somebody who is new. It can be frustrating to people who aren't new some times too.
Then again there are some people who ask the same stupid question over and over again and refuse to learn it because they know they can just ask. That frustrates the hell out of me regardless of what OS it's for. Those same people are just as annoying when they ask Windows questions. I do try not to get angry at them but I will let them know I'm not answering that question again so they better learn it this time...
Not once you add all of the muscle, body fat and skin. The arm size shrinks a lot. Even if they didn't I've seen them and I don't see how it could possibly pick its self up with those arms. It might be able to do it but it would be a task. Maybe if it falls down next to a tree or something. Lets not forget that it can't catch its self from a fall easily and might break bones.
It might be fine taking an easy fall, but running full speed (what about 20-40mph or so? I dunno.) and taking a big fall? I don't think it could afford to do that.
The problem I have is that it seems like the first person who dug up a T-Rex bone took one look at it and said it's a predator and nobody has argued otherwise since then even though we have tons of other evidence to prove otherwise. Nobody wants to disapoint all of the little kids out there with their t-rex toys. shoot we were all one of those kids at one point in time right? maybe we don't want to disapoint our selves.
Take a look at the t-rex teeth and jaws. They were designed for crushing bones. Predators get first pick on meat and don't really have a need for all of that. The T-Rex looks like it was designed more for getting the left overs where you HAD to crush bones in order to get at the meat you want.
Hmm interesting.
I thought it was just a very basic upgrade to the gameboy to allow color games but was still basically a gameboy.
I never owned one so I dunno.
It sure seems like more of a half step than a full step to me though.
Yeah I wish they would re-release Meteos with online support that would be killer.
I read something on DSFanboy today. Looks like I might have jumped the gun on Meteos going out of production. Somebody sent mail to Nintendo and the response said the game was still being produced and shipping so no worries I guess.
You're right, but on top of that I place money on them releeasing the browser in the US.
There is no reason for them not too.
It's opera browser. It's probably already translated into so many languages. Why wouldn't they release it here?
Really? There are hacks and emulators out for the DS and not once has Nintendo released a firmware upgrade to try to stop it.
What firmware version are we on for the PSP again?
The point about money was that Sony HAS cheaper options but won't give them to us. The small memory cart that comes with the $250 option is worthless unless you only use it for playing games and even then you probably want something bigger eventually. What I was saying is where is the $200 option? I heard it was coming but I don't see it.
Who said the PSP lineup was mediocre because of lack of hardware?
You wouldn't say the situation was any better for the DS? What are you talking about?
When good games come out for the PSP I will be there to buy them. At this point we own maybe a combined total of 5 or 6 PSP games in our house. 3 of which I consider decent games. None of which still get any play time.
I don't mean to say the DS browser will be better because it's opera altho it has been around longer and is probably more feature complete (but I'm talking out my ass on that because I have no idea what features will be in the DS version).
I HAVE seen videos of it in action though and it looks a TON easier to use than the PSP version. You have a keyboard that you can easily type on or hand writing recognition (yup that is in there too) also there are different ways to surf on it you can have a zoomed in version with a little box you drag around to display the contents in that section on the upper screen or you have anormal mode that uses the top and bottom screens.
Plus you'll probably have less problems with memory since it comes with the Memory cart (which hopefully will let you save pages for offline browsing but I dunno if that'll happen)
it's groovy?
I think it's "Don't sweat the petty stuff, and dont pet the sweaty stuff"
I think he meant 'you r'
Only kids dream about being Mature.