it's not exactly a giant poster displaying an ad either.
product placement might not have been the best words to describe it.
it makes the game more realistic having all the different brands, but it's an uneeded ad. in my opinion. just one that i'm more capable of putting up with.
did GT1 and 2 need it? No. I just did the Turbo upgrade and I was happy. Why did I care if I was getting an HKS or GReddy turbo?
I don't. It doesn't add anything to the game. The gameplay is still be the same either way.
You know why I think they are starting to put ads in games more and more? Because development costs have risen so much. Why is that? because gamers think that the latest and greatest hardware that could possibly be dreamed up and the coolest graphics in the entire planet are REQUIRED to have a good game and as a result of that we all get to pay $60-$70 a pop for video games that have fucking ADS in them.
I'll be sticking with Nintendo this round. I'll probably get a 360 because my 2 roommates have them and I love multiplayer games with friends who are in the same room or house as me. Gears of War with all of us having our own TV will be sweet. But trust me. I don't look forward to spending all that money and you won't catch me buying games that I know have ads in them. If they ALL have ads I will be purchasing very few or no 360 at all.
Do you think Nintendo will throw ads in their first party games any time soon?
Fuck that you wouldn't be playing a game if you wanted realism for crying out loud.
Jesus christ people.
This is why I have become such a die hard Nintendo fan over the past few years.
I don't EVER see ads in first party Nintendo games.
So yes. I do speak with my wallet.
When I play games like Tony Hawk it almost makes me SICK. Not only is the game NOT any more fun than the first few versions it's got all kinds of sell out bull shit in it.
You guys sure seem to cry hard enough when it comes to seeing more and more ads in the movie theater and other places and you're actually going to sit back and say you ENJOY seeing ads in games?
Eventually games are going to turn into huge advertisments that you PAID to watch with little new game play, outstanding graphics and TONS of ads and we're going to think that's what gaming is all about.
What happens when you start seeing Coke and Pepsi ads in Star Wars games? You're going to be fine with that? That's going to be realistic to you? Greeeaaat.
I guess you guys won't mind when 3 mins of commercials on TV gets bumped up to 5 mins and 30 mins of them before a movie starts gets bumped up to an hour with a break half way through the movie for another 15 mins of ads.
Next thing you know they'll be beaming them into our heads while we sleep like in futureama.
How would you feel if you were paying for HBO and they started displaying ads in the corner of the screen during the movies you were watching?
If you're not paying for the game then whatever. They gotta make their money some how.
Why should you have to see ads in the game if you already spent $60 for it?
If people put up with it.. things won't get better.. they'll get worse.. eventually you'll start seeing more and more ads in your games and THEN it will become unbearable.
It's just like going to see a football game these days. The entire stadium is an ad. Each entrance is an ad (Yeah they're naming each entrance gate after brands now..).. in Reliant stadium the floor is painted on the inside like a big coke symbol (red with the white swerve) and then you have adds all around the inside of the stadium and displaying on the jumbotrons.. It fucking sucks and it's only getting worse. Eventually I bet the players have to wear ads on their uniforms and go by "Pepsi #35".
How can that be? I'm not fine with it. I'm not going to buy a game and then turn around and have in-game ads forced down my throat.
If it's product placement in like.. GT5 where you can buy a GReddy turbo what ever.. I can *put up* with that.
But billboards displaying real ads? Fuck that. No way. Especially when the game probably cost $60 bucks. I won't buy it. Period. Not if I know it has ads in it.
At this point in my life.. NO game is a must have. Except maybe a simple Nintendo game (New Super Mario Bros.) and Gears of War which I really want.
It wasn't really my logic I was just talking smack for fun.
But the whole price point still stands. Why should we be forced to buy games on Blu-Ray that would work perfectly fine on DVD disks (which are supported). They might run a little faster (or not I dunno) and cost less.
What and you have a valid argument? Give me a fucking break.
I've heard the arguments and they are stupid. Period.
I don't care to argue this anymore because arguing with a conspiracy theorist is like arguing with a kid or a religious person who uses the fact that god can do anything and everything it wants to shoot down any argument you throw at them.
Now don't get me wrong. There are valid conspiracies but this one is just stupid.
What about Video card upgrades to the system? We all know how big of an improvement that can make. Right?
Besides the specs haven't *officially* been released yet I don't think.. although I'm guessing these will probably end up being pretty accurate. Who knows.
You're right. I won't walk out with out spending $320 but it won't be because of the nunchuck attachment which probably comes with the Wii it'll be because of all the cheap games I will be buying.
Everything conspiracy theorists have come up with on this topic have been EASILY shot down.
It's not even worth trying to argue about anymore. There is proof out there but people just don't feel like doing any real research.
You'd think if we staged the whole thing the Russians would have said SOMETHING about it seeing that they listened in to the ENTIRE FREAKING MISSION as did the rest of the world.
The latest rumored price right now is $250. $200... $250.. either way I'm getting it.
I'm def. getting a 360 now too. I just wish they'd make a game other than an FPS. GOW looks cool. Could care less about Halo 3, but if you look at the lineup half the damn games are FPS's. The 360 needs to spread out a little more.
My roommates both own one and the only games on it that I find worth playing are FPS's.. COD2, Graw, PDZ and Condemed. Sigh.
The confirmed that as a yes a long time ago. Infact they confirmed it at last years E3. Not only that the top of the Wii has a panel that opens up and has GameCube ports for backwards compatibility
Not only that the hardcore gamer market has probably the LEAST amounts of profit. They want the latest and greatest, fastest hardware they can get and they want it for under $500. They want games that have had millions and millions poured into them and then when it's all said and done they still complain that it isn't perfect and so if nobody buys the game you're out of a lot of freaking money. It makes it too expensive to take a chance and indy developers won't have enough to make games for your system.
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it's not exactly a giant poster displaying an ad either.
product placement might not have been the best words to describe it.
it makes the game more realistic having all the different brands, but it's an uneeded ad. in my opinion. just one that i'm more capable of putting up with.
did GT1 and 2 need it? No. I just did the Turbo upgrade and I was happy. Why did I care if I was getting an HKS or GReddy turbo?
I don't. It doesn't add anything to the game. The gameplay is still be the same either way.
You know why I think they are starting to put ads in games more and more? Because development costs have risen so much. Why is that? because gamers think that the latest and greatest hardware that could possibly be dreamed up and the coolest graphics in the entire planet are REQUIRED to have a good game and as a result of that we all get to pay $60-$70 a pop for video games that have fucking ADS in them.
I'll be sticking with Nintendo this round. I'll probably get a 360 because my 2 roommates have them and I love multiplayer games with friends who are in the same room or house as me. Gears of War with all of us having our own TV will be sweet. But trust me. I don't look forward to spending all that money and you won't catch me buying games that I know have ads in them. If they ALL have ads I will be purchasing very few or no 360 at all.
Do you think Nintendo will throw ads in their first party games any time soon?
Fuck that you wouldn't be playing a game if you wanted realism for crying out loud.
Jesus christ people.
This is why I have become such a die hard Nintendo fan over the past few years.
I don't EVER see ads in first party Nintendo games.
So yes. I do speak with my wallet.
When I play games like Tony Hawk it almost makes me SICK. Not only is the game NOT any more fun than the first few versions it's got all kinds of sell out bull shit in it.
You guys sure seem to cry hard enough when it comes to seeing more and more ads in the movie theater and other places and you're actually going to sit back and say you ENJOY seeing ads in games?
Eventually games are going to turn into huge advertisments that you PAID to watch with little new game play, outstanding graphics and TONS of ads and we're going to think that's what gaming is all about.
What happens when you start seeing Coke and Pepsi ads in Star Wars games? You're going to be fine with that? That's going to be realistic to you? Greeeaaat.
I guess you guys won't mind when 3 mins of commercials on TV gets bumped up to 5 mins and 30 mins of them before a movie starts gets bumped up to an hour with a break half way through the movie for another 15 mins of ads.
Next thing you know they'll be beaming them into our heads while we sleep like in futureama.
How would you feel if you were paying for HBO and they started displaying ads in the corner of the screen during the movies you were watching?
If you're not paying for the game then whatever. They gotta make their money some how.
Why should you have to see ads in the game if you already spent $60 for it?
If people put up with it.. things won't get better.. they'll get worse.. eventually you'll start seeing more and more ads in your games and THEN it will become unbearable.
It's just like going to see a football game these days. The entire stadium is an ad. Each entrance is an ad (Yeah they're naming each entrance gate after brands now..).. in Reliant stadium the floor is painted on the inside like a big coke symbol (red with the white swerve) and then you have adds all around the inside of the stadium and displaying on the jumbotrons.. It fucking sucks and it's only getting worse. Eventually I bet the players have to wear ads on their uniforms and go by "Pepsi #35".
Sigh.
How can that be? I'm not fine with it. I'm not going to buy a game and then turn around and have in-game ads forced down my throat.
If it's product placement in like.. GT5 where you can buy a GReddy turbo what ever.. I can *put up* with that.
But billboards displaying real ads? Fuck that. No way. Especially when the game probably cost $60 bucks. I won't buy it. Period. Not if I know it has ads in it.
At this point in my life.. NO game is a must have. Except maybe a simple Nintendo game (New Super Mario Bros.) and Gears of War which I really want.
Yeah it seems they're already doing this: http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/ps3-load-times-17 4292.php
What will load times be like the first time you play the game though? How quickly will HD space fill up I wonder?
I'm actually more concerned with the price of games on Blu-Ray vs DVD than load times. If games cost $70 that's going to suck.
It wasn't really my logic I was just talking smack for fun.
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But the whole price point still stands. Why should we be forced to buy games on Blu-Ray that would work perfectly fine on DVD disks (which are supported). They might run a little faster (or not I dunno) and cost less.
Oh and there was a recent blog on kotaku here: http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/ps3-load-times-1
that talks about how the warhammer game pre-loads content onto the hard drive when you first run the game to keep load times down.
I wonder how much data they have to load and if that means the first time you play games it might take a min to load stuff on to the HD?
I'm also wondering how quickly that'll fill up the HD.
I didn't actually bother to find any of that out ;) I was just spouting stuff out off the top of my head.
What and you have a valid argument? Give me a fucking break.
I've heard the arguments and they are stupid. Period.
I don't care to argue this anymore because arguing with a conspiracy theorist is like arguing with a kid or a religious person who uses the fact that god can do anything and everything it wants to shoot down any argument you throw at them.
Now don't get me wrong. There are valid conspiracies but this one is just stupid.
What about Video card upgrades to the system? We all know how big of an improvement that can make. Right?
Besides the specs haven't *officially* been released yet I don't think.. although I'm guessing these will probably end up being pretty accurate. Who knows.
You're right. I won't walk out with out spending $320 but it won't be because of the nunchuck attachment which probably comes with the Wii it'll be because of all the cheap games I will be buying.
What if every game for the PS3 is on a Blu-Ray disk.
How much will they cost compared to DVD games?
Blu-Ray on the PS3 runs at only 2x. Xbox 360 DVD runs at 12x.
How bad are those load times going to be for the PS3?
What about huge RPG's like Oblivion that are already kind of slow because of constantly accessing the disk?
When will we actually ever see a Blu-Ray movie released?
How many of us will actually be able to watch the freaking movie in all its glory?
Fuck Sony.
Except for the fact that you can't actually DO anything with the $300 xbox 360 with out spending atleast $40 more to save games.
Even at $250 the Wii would be $90 cheaper than any realistic 360 option.
Anybody who thinks we didn't is a fucking retard.
Everything conspiracy theorists have come up with on this topic have been EASILY shot down.
It's not even worth trying to argue about anymore. There is proof out there but people just don't feel like doing any real research.
You'd think if we staged the whole thing the Russians would have said SOMETHING about it seeing that they listened in to the ENTIRE FREAKING MISSION as did the rest of the world.
Well except for Sega vs Nintendo
The latest rumored price right now is $250. $200... $250.. either way I'm getting it.
I'm def. getting a 360 now too. I just wish they'd make a game other than an FPS. GOW looks cool. Could care less about Halo 3, but if you look at the lineup half the damn games are FPS's. The 360 needs to spread out a little more.
My roommates both own one and the only games on it that I find worth playing are FPS's.. COD2, Graw, PDZ and Condemed. Sigh.
If you break into a store and take it without paying it's a steal.
Okay Jared.
Shaking. Get it right.
You've got to be fucking kidding me. Your girlfriend bought an HDTV from WalMart?!
Just give it a Wii bit
How did I prove your point when I wasn't even complaining?
I don't think most people were complaining about Microsoft.
You're just mad that most of us don't think it's a good idea.
The confirmed that as a yes a long time ago. Infact they confirmed it at last years E3. Not only that the top of the Wii has a panel that opens up and has GameCube ports for backwards compatibility
On a side note I do agree with you that xbox live is pretty great.
My two roommates have 360's and when Gears of War comes out I'll be getting one too.
You can't even save your games with the 360 core unit. You almost HAVE to spend around $350. Also I doubt Wii games will cost $60/pop.
Do you really think the wii will cost $300? My guess is $250 would be tops.
Not only that the hardcore gamer market has probably the LEAST amounts of profit. They want the latest and greatest, fastest hardware they can get and they want it for under $500. They want games that have had millions and millions poured into them and then when it's all said and done they still complain that it isn't perfect and so if nobody buys the game you're out of a lot of freaking money. It makes it too expensive to take a chance and indy developers won't have enough to make games for your system.