I think the whole karma thing is taken as far as it's going to go. You now have the choice to filter out these trolls and flamebait entries but you still choose to complain.
While I agree the whole delay between multiple posts thing has potential, where are these temporary posts going to be kept? In a temp database? Should there be a daemon running that is constantly sorting the database by timestamps and the total number of posts for the day and popping the one of the top into the normal database... I think Slashdot is already slow enough.....
A better answer would be to make a few code improvements that would stop most low level cracks and slow down the more advanced ones. It's obvious that these can still be by-passed but it would take considerable more work.
1) Check to see if the method is a GET or POST. It's much easier to whip up a quick script for a GET since it reads the variables from the URL string.
2) Check the referring URL. Yes, this can be spoofed and you can turn it off in some clients but it's yet another speed bump.
3) Add the users IP into the database for each post (They may already do this..) so it can be used later. If the user is a constant problem, ipchains -J DENY them or their subnet for a while.
Doesn't slashdot's code check the referring URL? It appears someone likes PERL's LWP and URI modules. --
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>> Don't let the browser do the error correction. >> Do it on the server side through your CGI >> program where you have complete control.
> That's usually not a great solution > either. Doing it that way you wind up > printing some sort of(hopefully > non-cryptic) error message to the > customers' browser, and you STILL > haven't solved the problem. And the > user is still messed up, often not > understanding the error message.
I agree but it's still better than blocking the browser. The trick is writing useful error codes;)
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about more than column widths and page layout.
Let's say there's lot's of code already in place that uses Javascript to make sure the form fields are correct. In the banking industry, a misplaced decimal can make for a very unhappy customer, even if it's the customers fault. Older browsers and newer browsers with javascript problems suddenly become a huge headache.
I would agree with you if the site was blocking you because of aesthetics but I'm pretty sure that's not the case. More constructive criticism would be:
Don't let the browser do the error correction. Do it on the server side through your CGI program where you have complete control. --
"The important part is that the software is doing something that it doesn't advertise and that isn't necessary for the operation of the software - sending information about your computer back to id software, which is mentioned nowhere in documentation, readme, EULA, website or installation."
Michael's (if that reeeally isss his real name/* It's sarcasm for those of you who are humor impaired. */) statement is completely ignorant. It's pretty obvious that he didn't read the doc and if he did, maybe he should have read it twice. Where is/. getting these people (I'm guessing Andover. I kinda thought it would be a bad thing).
I'm running a p2-350 w/ 128Meg RAM, and a voodoo3 PCI 2000 under Mandrake 6.1 w/ KDE and the frames in single player were great but when I jumped into a server, the frames dropped horribly.
I'm not sure if it was something I was doing wrong but it was so bad that I couldn't even play. I downloaded the latest 3dfx drivers that were released on the 15th but didn't see any increase in performance. I'm hoping it's just something wrong on my end. Otherwise, Id / 3dfx / Linux users have a long road ahead of them. --
That isn't really a good solution. What happens if the network goes down, or one of the servers goes down.. It'd be a real pain un-hooking the "main console"'s monitor and connecting it to the "bad server". This shouldn't happen a while lot in a perfect world but guess what....
We've got a great switch at work. It's running 2 SCO unix systems (Yeah, I know), an NT server (even worse), and a Linux box. It seems to work great. I'll get the name/model and post it tommorrow. --
The Dwarves and early (pre 85) Bad Religion is great. I'm not sure the Dwarves put me into any kind of a coding mood, more like a drunk lazy mood. That'd kinda be like coding to the Meatmen or GG Allin.
Punk Music to write good code by:
EconoChrist Born Against Flipper (only the Generic album and maybe American Grafishy) Misfits
Oh, and one other thing. "T S O L are sissies" -- Meatmen
Catching on?? I thought he was loosing him even more.. Since when is giving out DNS illegal (someone better inform internic)??? Not like it matters, that wasn't even what he was asking. --
I laughed a little when I saw your sig.. When I realized that it actually works, I laughed even more. Very nicely put. --
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I support / admin several hundred SCO servers (ouch) and I often have to visit the SCO website for technical articles and online registration of licenses. The other day (about 2 weeks ago) the word 'linux' in their 'news' section caught my eye so I took a quick gander.
The section contained about 5 or 6 links to articles from various online news sources (ranging from zdnet to msnbc) about Linux's downfalls. They even had a link to an article about IT personnel who had lost their jobs for installing Linux servers! They looked *really* scared.
I was going to email the link to the SCO 'news' site to Slashdot but eventually blew it off thinking it wasn't news worthy but the links are gone now. It would have been nice to have documented this on slashdot before they changed their attitude on linux. --
sub sarcasm { Hell, if they say you're guilty then you must be. I'm not quite sure why the even bothered with keeping him in jail for 4 years without a trial when it has been stated that he was guilty. They shoulda just sent him along his way to a medium security prison. Wow, you are a ground breaker...!!!! with your savvy modern thinking, you could solve all of the judicial system's congestion problems. Hat's off to you sir. }
You've missed a huge point in this whole process. People are guaranteed a right to a speedy trial. I don't care if people have been in jail longer without a trial. It doesn't discount anything! It's sad, I agree. The fact remains that nobody should be able to say you are guilty of a crime and then wait 4 years (much less a few months) to decide your guilt based on actual facts.
Not everyone is saying that "Kevin Mitnick is the most scandalous case of the all American justice". They are only saying that it was wrong. I have to say I agree. --
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Mozilla x (Perl + Python) = New IDE
Attention to details!
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(sorry but I call 'em as I see them).
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While I agree the whole delay between multiple posts thing has potential, where are these temporary posts going to be kept? In a temp database? Should there be a daemon running that is constantly sorting the database by timestamps and the total number of posts for the day and popping the one of the top into the normal database... I think Slashdot is already slow enough.....
A better answer would be to make a few code improvements that would stop most low level cracks and slow down the more advanced ones. It's obvious that these can still be by-passed but it would take considerable more work.
1) Check to see if the method is a GET or POST. It's much easier to whip up a quick script for a GET since it reads the variables from the URL string.
2) Check the referring URL. Yes, this can be spoofed and you can turn it off in some clients but it's yet another speed bump.
3) Add the users IP into the database for each post (They may already do this..) so it can be used later. If the user is a constant problem, ipchains -J DENY them or their subnet for a while.
Any other suggestions?
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Slashdot accepts login and passwd's from a GET vs. a POST.
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>> Do it on the server side through your CGI
>> program where you have complete control.
> That's usually not a great solution
> either. Doing it that way you wind up
> printing some sort of(hopefully
> non-cryptic) error message to the
> customers' browser, and you STILL
> haven't solved the problem. And the
> user is still messed up, often not
> understanding the error message.
I agree but it's still better than blocking the browser. The trick is writing useful error codes
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Let's say there's lot's of code already in place that uses Javascript to make sure the form fields are correct. In the banking industry, a misplaced decimal can make for a very unhappy customer, even if it's the customers fault. Older browsers and newer browsers with javascript problems suddenly become a huge headache.
I would agree with you if the site was blocking you because of aesthetics but I'm pretty sure that's not the case. More constructive criticism would be:
Don't let the browser do the error correction. Do it on the server side through your CGI
program where you have complete control.
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Michael's (if that reeeally isss his real name
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I'm not sure if it was something I was doing wrong but it was so bad that I couldn't even play. I downloaded the latest 3dfx drivers that were released on the 15th but didn't see any increase in performance. I'm hoping it's just something wrong on my end. Otherwise, Id / 3dfx / Linux users have a long road ahead of them.
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We've got a great switch at work. It's running 2 SCO unix systems (Yeah, I know), an NT server (even worse), and a Linux box. It seems to work great. I'll get the name/model and post it tommorrow.
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It's a pretty simple idea... I'm surprised nobody has done this already.
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Punk Music to write good code by:
EconoChrist
Born Against
Flipper (only the Generic album and maybe American Grafishy)
Misfits
Oh, and one other thing.
"T S O L are sissies" -- Meatmen
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The section contained about 5 or 6 links to articles from various online news sources (ranging from zdnet to msnbc) about Linux's downfalls. They even had a link to an article about IT personnel who had lost their jobs for installing Linux servers! They looked *really* scared.
I was going to email the link to the SCO 'news' site to Slashdot but eventually blew it off thinking it wasn't news worthy but the links are gone now. It would have been nice to have documented this on slashdot before they changed their attitude on linux.
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Hell, if they say you're guilty then you must be. I'm not quite sure why the even
bothered with keeping him in jail for 4 years without a trial when it has been stated
that he was guilty. They shoulda just sent him along his way to a medium security
prison. Wow, you are a ground breaker...!!!! with your savvy modern thinking, you
could solve all of the judicial system's congestion problems. Hat's off to you sir.
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You've missed a huge point in this whole process. People are guaranteed a right to a
speedy trial. I don't care if people have been in jail longer without a trial. It doesn't
discount anything! It's sad, I agree. The fact remains that nobody should be able to
say you are guilty of a crime and then wait 4 years (much less a few months) to
decide your guilt based on actual facts.
Not everyone is saying that "Kevin Mitnick is the most scandalous case of the all
American justice". They are only saying that it was wrong. I have to say I agree.
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Welcome to the real world.
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