I agree, they seem over the top. but imma provide a bit of knowledge, maybe you'll find it interesting. Much of 1st amendment law is controlled by a landmark, precedent-setting case, brandenberg v. ohio which laid out definitions like "imminent threat exemption." This superceded the often-misunderstood "fire in a crowded theater" idea from the 1910's. The three components of the "brandenberg test" are intent, imminence, and likelihood. The troll comments fall short of imminence and likelihood, at the very least.
A question for you, no trolling, what's it like in Greece with the fiscal stuff? is everybody freaking out? is it like being on an out-of-control freight train?
here's the problem though. there's nothing remotely illegal about the statements that were made. almost all speech is protected under the first amendment, especially speech about political matters. There are some specific exemptions, including making imminent and specific threats. So something like, "I'm going to go to this judge's house at X address on Y date and do this thing". The commenters didn't do that.
So it's clear on its face that the comments are free speech and not actionable. so why was the govt looking into taking action? that is the question mark.
I'm a bit puzzled by this. Reason has no responsibility to police its comments, so the govt leaning on them won't push them to do so. It could send a chilling effect among internet commenters, but only if people knew about it, so what was the gag for? they could have legitimately wanted to investigate these particular people, but that wouldn't have held up. one possibility is a hissy fit by the judge who was the author of the article.
SCOTUS has long recognized Congress' right to regulate interstate commerce. A lot of things are rights for people but not allowed for businesses to do.
what illegal government actions? what is the government doing that's illegal? the only implication in TFA is that the govt isn't cracking down on uber as much as the taxi drivers would like. this is hardly an illegal action.
By the way, the bat mobile in this game is awesome. Pull the left trigger and it turns into one of those vehicles that moves in all directions, plus a tank to boot. Also, if you're falling from a tower you can summon it with a whistle and land in the drivers seat.
many of your points are true. but at the same time, there are many possible programs that the govt could fund across all human endeavors, and it has to choose a suite of projects that will move forward. it makes sense that considering the demands for funding are much greater than the available funding, to fund a suite of projects that in aggregate will have the greatest impact.
actually, we (by this I mean americans) don't need clean air right now. Our air is cleaner than it's been in 50 years. and it's only going to get better over the next 20 years as old tech is phased out in favor of tech we have today. This will happen without further advancement in this technology.
nuclear doesn't have carbon emissions during operation, but the construction and decommissioning activities are so massive that there are many emissions occurring then. Also consider the emissions associated with uranium mining, purification. so it's not a silver (very dense) bullet.
Another way to put it, I don't know of any mac av products that add any sort of value that exceed the hit to resources. Is there a rational av solution that is not based in FUD?
there are two goals here. one, keep people safe. Two, take back the streets from the automobile. building tunnels or walkways just cedes more territory to cars. we want walkable, vibrant communities, not traffic islands and expressways. cars will slow down and they will take heed.
yeah, rounabouts destroy cities, too. converts a vibrant intersection with cars, peds, bikes, shops, parking, businesses to a sterile area that feels like a perpetual onramp. it's like a mass fish kill event for the city life.
if you've ever been to paris, you've likely seen the arc de triumphe - the fanciest traffic circle in the world.
I suppose, perhaps, depending on regional availability of these app stores and language support for non-English languages. I can only speak to the US experience.
there are plenty of online curated guides to help you cut through the crap, like toucharcade.com. steam and console platforms allow indies to post games for online download for a couple bucks. yes, before anybody could distribute their own shareware games and people could download them off their website, but that's not like today with massive distribution channels.
I was corrected in another thread, it's the silver age of gaming.
the OP had it best. they can be effectively banned if they won't sell. the publishers will self censor and focus on games that will sell. if walmart, target, gamestop etc refuse to sell a game then that scares the publishers. Combine this with an industry-wide rating system that evaluates content for appropriateness and you have a pretty effective censorship system, at least under the old industry structure. The new way, with google play and other online stores, publishers have much more freedom to explore game content. Apple is still pretty strict about content guidelines, but otherwise there's more freedom.
I agree, in US fewer and fewer games are banned (as a percent of all video games). This is because the number of avenues for games publishing is mushrooming, opening the door for many devs to publish games that wouldn't have gotten wide exposure before. At the same time, the costs of game development is dropping, creating a space for indie devs who aren't making the next AAA shooter.
This creates a vibrant scene where we're seeing games about topics that would have been unthinkable before, because they would have been considered unviable and not worth the investment. Games about censorship. Games about cancer. Games about all sorts of topics, including ones that would be banned under traditional media, either by a govt agency or through self-censorship.
oh gawd, we didn't even get to units for photographers. what the eff is an f-stop? I never understood it, other than to intuit that it is the inverse fraction of something that may otherwise make sense.
Catastrophic is a bit of an overstatement... It's easy, an ounce of any drinkable liquid weighs an ounce... (for the same variations as your silly 1 liter weighs 1 kilogram things...)
holy shit you're right. I never realized that before. That makes it so easy! And, as the person says below, a pint of water weighs a pound.
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I agree, they seem over the top. but imma provide a bit of knowledge, maybe you'll find it interesting. Much of 1st amendment law is controlled by a landmark, precedent-setting case, brandenberg v. ohio which laid out definitions like "imminent threat exemption." This superceded the often-misunderstood "fire in a crowded theater" idea from the 1910's. The three components of the "brandenberg test" are intent, imminence, and likelihood. The troll comments fall short of imminence and likelihood, at the very least.
A question for you, no trolling, what's it like in Greece with the fiscal stuff? is everybody freaking out? is it like being on an out-of-control freight train?
so you think it was just heavy handed thuggery. I agree, that's like the only thing that makes sense.
here's the problem though. there's nothing remotely illegal about the statements that were made. almost all speech is protected under the first amendment, especially speech about political matters. There are some specific exemptions, including making imminent and specific threats. So something like, "I'm going to go to this judge's house at X address on Y date and do this thing". The commenters didn't do that.
So it's clear on its face that the comments are free speech and not actionable. so why was the govt looking into taking action? that is the question mark.
I'm a bit puzzled by this. Reason has no responsibility to police its comments, so the govt leaning on them won't push them to do so. It could send a chilling effect among internet commenters, but only if people knew about it, so what was the gag for? they could have legitimately wanted to investigate these particular people, but that wouldn't have held up. one possibility is a hissy fit by the judge who was the author of the article.
SCOTUS has long recognized Congress' right to regulate interstate commerce. A lot of things are rights for people but not allowed for businesses to do.
in Britain they have crossing guards at school entrances who hold up round stop signs on sticks. they are called lollipop men or lollipop ladies.
or the guys with the lollipos guiding the planes to the terminal.
you're british. this is a british idiom.
what illegal government actions? what is the government doing that's illegal? the only implication in TFA is that the govt isn't cracking down on uber as much as the taxi drivers would like. this is hardly an illegal action.
By the way, the bat mobile in this game is awesome. Pull the left trigger and it turns into one of those vehicles that moves in all directions, plus a tank to boot. Also, if you're falling from a tower you can summon it with a whistle and land in the drivers seat.
many of your points are true. but at the same time, there are many possible programs that the govt could fund across all human endeavors, and it has to choose a suite of projects that will move forward. it makes sense that considering the demands for funding are much greater than the available funding, to fund a suite of projects that in aggregate will have the greatest impact.
actually, we (by this I mean americans) don't need clean air right now. Our air is cleaner than it's been in 50 years. and it's only going to get better over the next 20 years as old tech is phased out in favor of tech we have today. This will happen without further advancement in this technology.
nuclear doesn't have carbon emissions during operation, but the construction and decommissioning activities are so massive that there are many emissions occurring then. Also consider the emissions associated with uranium mining, purification. so it's not a silver (very dense) bullet.
Another way to put it, I don't know of any mac av products that add any sort of value that exceed the hit to resources. Is there a rational av solution that is not based in FUD?
TIL people on the internet are douches.
What is TIL
there are two goals here. one, keep people safe. Two, take back the streets from the automobile. building tunnels or walkways just cedes more territory to cars. we want walkable, vibrant communities, not traffic islands and expressways. cars will slow down and they will take heed.
yeah, rounabouts destroy cities, too. converts a vibrant intersection with cars, peds, bikes, shops, parking, businesses to a sterile area that feels like a perpetual onramp. it's like a mass fish kill event for the city life.
if you've ever been to paris, you've likely seen the arc de triumphe - the fanciest traffic circle in the world.
I suppose, perhaps, depending on regional availability of these app stores and language support for non-English languages. I can only speak to the US experience.
there are plenty of online curated guides to help you cut through the crap, like toucharcade.com. steam and console platforms allow indies to post games for online download for a couple bucks. yes, before anybody could distribute their own shareware games and people could download them off their website, but that's not like today with massive distribution channels.
I was corrected in another thread, it's the silver age of gaming.
the OP had it best. they can be effectively banned if they won't sell. the publishers will self censor and focus on games that will sell. if walmart, target, gamestop etc refuse to sell a game then that scares the publishers. Combine this with an industry-wide rating system that evaluates content for appropriateness and you have a pretty effective censorship system, at least under the old industry structure. The new way, with google play and other online stores, publishers have much more freedom to explore game content. Apple is still pretty strict about content guidelines, but otherwise there's more freedom.
fine, it's the silver age, like marvel/stan lee.
I agree, in US fewer and fewer games are banned (as a percent of all video games). This is because the number of avenues for games publishing is mushrooming, opening the door for many devs to publish games that wouldn't have gotten wide exposure before. At the same time, the costs of game development is dropping, creating a space for indie devs who aren't making the next AAA shooter.
This creates a vibrant scene where we're seeing games about topics that would have been unthinkable before, because they would have been considered unviable and not worth the investment. Games about censorship. Games about cancer. Games about all sorts of topics, including ones that would be banned under traditional media, either by a govt agency or through self-censorship.
It's the golden age of gaming!
Try asking how many people have been raped in that prison.
That's why they have to put the sheets over the bars.
oh gawd, we didn't even get to units for photographers. what the eff is an f-stop? I never understood it, other than to intuit that it is the inverse fraction of something that may otherwise make sense.
Catastrophic is a bit of an overstatement... It's easy, an ounce of any drinkable liquid weighs an ounce... (for the same variations as your silly 1 liter weighs 1 kilogram things...)
holy shit you're right. I never realized that before. That makes it so easy! And, as the person says below, a pint of water weighs a pound.