(this is a repost cause the first one is screwed up )
Look, i'm a Computer Sciense and Studio Art BFA double major. You won't find another animal like this if you don't try hard.
Here is the deal,
1) There are some computer, digital art that is becoming more and more of popular media and getting more attention. For example the new Whitney Museum show (bitstream http://www.whitney.org/bitstreams/
) I have been to SVA a couple of times, they have excellent excellent digital/computer art. Grandly alot are geared toward one day realized in a Pixar type production. But there are alot abstract interactive computer art. It seems they are not easily done by authoring envirement like flash/max but rather done in hardcore c++. I personally know two artist use computer to make art, one of them use c++ which I loath despite my CS degree. They had a show in a gallery specialize in digital artist which i can not remember. I'm pulling my hair out.
2) There are always certain art form receive alot less attention than the others. Comedy never win any oscar. We all know fine action movie require a geniune artist to make yet nobody give much respect to John McTiernon (I prefer McTiernon over Woo mind you) As does comic, so does american mural, so does sit-com, etc etc. You KNEW what you are getting into when you chose your career. OTOH serious art always make less money. Where can you find another field like graphic art that it's pretty close to art yet so easy to make big money if you want to make your living in 3d animation. If a painter can't make it, he can't make it. He is fucked. There is not "sell-out" job he can use his skill to. I intern in a gallery, everyday there are a few young artists come in and ask their slices to be seen and the answer is the one-liner, "not right now, maybe in the fall." Frankly, going to the like of abstract sculpture kind of direction is like trying to make it big as an actor, failure rate much larger than your "graphic design"
3) In the fine art world, mostly digital stuff are done by people who major in fine art but choose to use the digital media. I will say it's a lot easier for a commercial photographer to move his career to fine art than a career programmer who try to move to art world. Yeah it's not fair but the world is not fair. The idea is you shouldn't be doing something so skill intensive that only you can do it. The work should be easy enough that most people can do it but only one is good enough to think of it.
4) Franky, it's not digital art that it's the problem, it's Mississippi for gods dake. You want to become an artist? Move to new york, period, bottom line, end of the story. You think the like of damian hirst will generate any buzz in Mississippi? come on. I don't even sound arrogant because it's the true.
5) I don't want to say this until i see your work, but photoshop'in a picture is just tip of ice of what you can use your computer to make art. It certain doesn't have to be 2d.
Look, i'm a Computer Sciense and Studio Art BFA double major. You won't find another animal like this if you don't try hard.
Here is the deal,
1) There are some computer, digital art that is becoming more and more of popular media and getting more attention. For example the new Whitney Museum show (bitstream http://www.whitney.org/bitstreams/
) I have been to SVA a couple of times, they have excellent excellent digital/computer art. Grandly alot are geared toward one day realized in a Pixar type production. But there are alot abstract interactive computer art. It seems they are not easily done by authoring envirement like flash/max but rather done in hardcore c++. I personally know two artist use computer to make art, one of them use c++ which I loath despite my CS degree. They had a show in a gallery specialize in digital artist which i can not remember. I'm pulling my hair out.
2) There are always certain art form receive alot less attention than the others. Comedy never win any oscar. We all know fine action movie require a geniune artist to make yet nobody give much respect to John McTiernon (I prefer McTiernon over Woo mind you) As does comic, so does american mural, so does sit-com, etc etc. You KNEW what you are getting into when you chose your career. OTOH serious art always make less money. Where can you find another field like graphic art that it's pretty close to art yet so easy to make big money if you want to make your living in 3d animation. If a painter can't make it, he can't make it. He is fucked. There is not "sell-out" job he can use his skill to. I intern in a gallery, everyday there are a few young artists come in and ask their slices to be seen and the answer is the one-liner, "not right now, maybe in the fall." Frankly, going to the like of abstract sculpture kind of direction is like trying to make it big as an actor, failure rate much larger than your "graphic design"
3) In the fine art world, mostly digital stuff are done by people who major in fine art but choose to use the digital media. I will say it's a lot easier for a commercial photographer to move his career to fine art than a career programmer who try to move to art world. Yeah it's not fair but the world is not fair. The idea is you shouldn't be doing something so skill intensive that only you can do it. The work should be easy enough that most people can do it but only one is good enough to think of it.
4) Franky, it's not digital art that it's the problem, it's Mississippi for gods dake. You want to become an artist? Move to new york, period, bottom line, end of the story. You think the like of damian hirst will generate any buzz in Mississippi? come on. I don't even sound arrogant because it's the true.
-tino
name0000@yahoo.com
.... Very few Americans know of the Tokyo raid towards the end of the war that killed around 100,000 civilians (more than were killed in Hiroshima or Nagasaki).
not as much as japanese army killed in NanJing, so what exactly is your point again?
nobody is begging you to apologize okay. We chinese has some way to get back at you, leaking something missile technology to north korean, for example. Look, the japanese young generation can be ignorance about the WWII and we wouldn't care a bit. Nobody is longing for your petty apology.
(and you ae right. this is not about fair. and this is not about truth either. this is about what we think it's fair. Well at least we don't shooting it out like the goons in isreal.
exactly, and IE on mac is better than Netscape6 anyway. Seriously, I don't worry about MS browser monopoly anymore because there won't be anymore new version on majority of the users IE6 will not be available on win98 win95, which is over 50% of the user base. If a good OS such as win2000 can't get people to upgrade, there's nothing else MS can do to make people upgrade.
I do most of my work on flash. (yechen.org) While I understand theres a few bugs on flash5 player. I'm not going to do anything flash6 only when it come out, cause flash4/flash5 that comes with the browsers IS going to be the standard for the next 5-8 years. That's it folks. There's no more browser war, there's no more standard compliment war. IE5+flash5 is the net.
(I'm a Cantonese, has lived in new york for about 6 yrs) I notice that a lot of these conflict come up prior to China going into WTO. I seriously think Chinese government is not too crazy about getting into WTO.
And one more thing. What's these "international law" you are speaking of. International gaming is like wild wild west. You get more when you have power. And I'm sure it's a bad thing.
what should replace js and java is flash, not these bullshit. I havn't seen one single java applet run as fast as an identical functioned swf file. Flash is optimize for graphic and render and interaction. Imagine a security updated netscape3 with latest flash plugin. It can do all the things the newest browser can do and footprint in probably 2 meg.
That's how bs html 4.0 and other bs VRML perprosal has become.
CY
(if you think i don't know anythng about web design, check out my homepage yeche.org)
I have a theory, the part of the reason Japanese are so obssess and pay so much attention to the future is that their past is not so holy (Italian, on the other hand, care so much about the past cause let's face it, they have the best past/ancestor)
It's like a person who has done something they are not pound of, and they would more likely to say "the past is past, what do you want me to do, let's move on) Japan, in alot of asian countries' minds, hasn't fully apology, take responsibility to what they did during wwII. Of cause they are more likely to look ahead.
Now I'm not saying this because I'm a cantonese, I really don't care if japan never apologize for what they did and feel guilty for it, and japanese youth know little about the war crime and stuff. I come up with this theory cause I like to use human beghavior to explain a country. (I know how many jews were killed by hitler in wwII, how many of you/.ers know how many chinese were killed in NanJin? See that, that's what i mean. asian, at least chinese like to use different way to resolve the historic problem. Keep making movie as a reminder is not one of them. Like I say, I'm too familier with japanese culture to "have a distaste in my month" when talk about them.)
but that's what people think when they already immigrted to US! Duh. Not what people think when they decide to stay. You have to think like that to justify the extra shittiness you encounter in the new country.
/me refuse to talk to my father, until he apologize for getting my ass to new york from canton without ever asking if I wanted to. And he has to apologize in front of everybody. I mean eveeeerrrrybooody[/gary oldman impression]
You can't tape over DVD you stupid. There are alot of people willing to pay big money for the highest quality Simpsons episodes possible. And the home sex video too.
CY
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First of all, you are the first time I hear this term "honorary asian" O I mean honorary white bullshit.
And it's not the word you speak of, but the frankly way you bring up this term that make you come off a racist. You sir, are a fucking racist.
(Let's do this the democratic way, let's vote whether you are a racist. My 0.02 goes to yes.)
Who do you think make the 20G hard drive, toshiba of course. Go to the adorable Libretto page and check for installation of 20G hard drives.
Old subnotebook you say, 2 years has passed and nobody has come up with a smaller subnotebook compare to my libby110. Those Sony stuff are just fancy looking.
In the moment of true, he showed that he has no ambition whatsoever. Isn't that a reason to get rid of him? Especially for a tiny company. You are assuming the higher up managerment are morons. That is possible for people in a big corporatetion where middle managerment come from college. But if this boss is a high school drop out who started from nothing, he is likely to be pissed off by the lack of responsibility of the said worker.
And another thing, the chances are, people in higher up is smarter than people in lower down, including the engineers. (You don't have to believe me, I'm a computer science and Studio Art BFA double major in making:) Really )
The more technical-savvy the system, the lamer the song selections. I'm downloading cutthroat island score right now, try that on openNap. And normally opennap doeesn't even retrun results within a minute. I do use napigator to jump between napster servers.
of course if napster got their ass kicked, everyone will be DoSing opennap and I'll never get anything.
because 1) It make sense to have 2 children from 2 adults, right?
2) They can't do anything to stop them anyway. How do you punish they. The only way to punish people in city to have second child is not giving the couple new house apartment. (You get your apartment for free from the country-own companies, remember? at least that's in theory.) The poeple in country side already live in their own house, so what can you do.
You should get some Huong Jian-Xing (or Jiang-Xing ?) movie, which is hard to find. He is as good as Barry Levinson. Some of them deal with the "getting new house" situation as good as any Barry Levinson outputs, the grossly underrated "Tin Man" for example.
(can't figure out the correct spelling, email me if u interest, name0000@yahoo.com -ye chen)
As a chinese, I was quike taken by his first book. (I got the soundtarck btw, much better than John McWhatever's film) It has chinese version in china (mainland) and Taiwan. Not sure if it has HK version. By the time I follow him to that Nuclear/Super Bowl book I got totally bored out. I barely make it throught.
The guy is done, really. A long time ago. EW said it has alot of Arian racism slang going on. The only thing puzzle me is that how can he make such a boring subject into a 1000 pages epic? What exactly is the new technology he can write about for the Chinese side??? And chinese spy system is never active outside of its chinese circle. (looks different, remember.)
People with half brian know that Chinese economic system hasn't been socialistic for last 10 years. They keep this strange situation all due various reasons. You can blame it all to russian, however. Their capitalisation has been a disaster. And we know us won't save our ass if needed.
I have been reading some urban japanese anthropology books. I havn't aware of any chinese counterparts. So you have to look around. The only social reseach book of comtemperary chinese I encounter (that is not in chinese) is a new york chinatown gangs and their interwin. It's very hardcore anthor. book. The author wrote both the english and the chinese versions, check it out. Also Jia Ping-Wa may well be the greatest rural novalist of the 90's. I promise you he is a lot better than us best seller types (because novelist has alot more freedom in chinese than the film makers) Find english translation if you can.
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(this is a repost cause the first one is screwed up )
Look, i'm a Computer Sciense and Studio Art BFA double major. You won't find another animal like this if you don't try hard.
Here is the deal,
1) There are some computer, digital art that is becoming more and more of popular media and getting more attention. For example the new Whitney Museum show (bitstream http://www.whitney.org/bitstreams/
) I have been to SVA a couple of times, they have excellent excellent digital/computer art. Grandly alot are geared toward one day realized in a Pixar type production. But there are alot abstract interactive computer art. It seems they are not easily done by authoring envirement like flash/max but rather done in hardcore c++. I personally know two artist use computer to make art, one of them use c++ which I loath despite my CS degree. They had a show in a gallery specialize in digital artist which i can not remember. I'm pulling my hair out.
2) There are always certain art form receive alot less attention than the others. Comedy never win any oscar. We all know fine action movie require a geniune artist to make yet nobody give much respect to John McTiernon (I prefer McTiernon over Woo mind you) As does comic, so does american mural, so does sit-com, etc etc. You KNEW what you are getting into when you chose your career. OTOH serious art always make less money. Where can you find another field like graphic art that it's pretty close to art yet so easy to make big money if you want to make your living in 3d animation. If a painter can't make it, he can't make it. He is fucked. There is not "sell-out" job he can use his skill to. I intern in a gallery, everyday there are a few young artists come in and ask their slices to be seen and the answer is the one-liner, "not right now, maybe in the fall." Frankly, going to the like of abstract sculpture kind of direction is like trying to make it big as an actor, failure rate much larger than your "graphic design"
3) In the fine art world, mostly digital stuff are done by people who major in fine art but choose to use the digital media. I will say it's a lot easier for a commercial photographer to move his career to fine art than a career programmer who try to move to art world. Yeah it's not fair but the world is not fair. The idea is you shouldn't be doing something so skill intensive that only you can do it. The work should be easy enough that most people can do it but only one is good enough to think of it.
4) Franky, it's not digital art that it's the problem, it's Mississippi for gods dake. You want to become an artist? Move to new york, period, bottom line, end of the story. You think the like of damian hirst will generate any buzz in Mississippi? come on. I don't even sound arrogant because it's the true.
5) I don't want to say this until i see your work, but photoshop'in a picture is just tip of ice of what you can use your computer to make art. It certain doesn't have to be 2d.
-tino
name0000@yahoo.com
Look, i'm a Computer Sciense and Studio Art BFA double major. You won't find another animal like this if you don't try hard. Here is the deal, 1) There are some computer, digital art that is becoming more and more of popular media and getting more attention. For example the new Whitney Museum show (bitstream http://www.whitney.org/bitstreams/ ) I have been to SVA a couple of times, they have excellent excellent digital/computer art. Grandly alot are geared toward one day realized in a Pixar type production. But there are alot abstract interactive computer art. It seems they are not easily done by authoring envirement like flash/max but rather done in hardcore c++. I personally know two artist use computer to make art, one of them use c++ which I loath despite my CS degree. They had a show in a gallery specialize in digital artist which i can not remember. I'm pulling my hair out. 2) There are always certain art form receive alot less attention than the others. Comedy never win any oscar. We all know fine action movie require a geniune artist to make yet nobody give much respect to John McTiernon (I prefer McTiernon over Woo mind you) As does comic, so does american mural, so does sit-com, etc etc. You KNEW what you are getting into when you chose your career. OTOH serious art always make less money. Where can you find another field like graphic art that it's pretty close to art yet so easy to make big money if you want to make your living in 3d animation. If a painter can't make it, he can't make it. He is fucked. There is not "sell-out" job he can use his skill to. I intern in a gallery, everyday there are a few young artists come in and ask their slices to be seen and the answer is the one-liner, "not right now, maybe in the fall." Frankly, going to the like of abstract sculpture kind of direction is like trying to make it big as an actor, failure rate much larger than your "graphic design" 3) In the fine art world, mostly digital stuff are done by people who major in fine art but choose to use the digital media. I will say it's a lot easier for a commercial photographer to move his career to fine art than a career programmer who try to move to art world. Yeah it's not fair but the world is not fair. The idea is you shouldn't be doing something so skill intensive that only you can do it. The work should be easy enough that most people can do it but only one is good enough to think of it. 4) Franky, it's not digital art that it's the problem, it's Mississippi for gods dake. You want to become an artist? Move to new york, period, bottom line, end of the story. You think the like of damian hirst will generate any buzz in Mississippi? come on. I don't even sound arrogant because it's the true. -tino name0000@yahoo.com
.... Very few Americans know of the Tokyo raid towards the end of the war that killed around 100,000 civilians (more than were killed in Hiroshima or Nagasaki).
not as much as japanese army killed in NanJing, so what exactly is your point again?
nobody is begging you to apologize okay. We chinese has some way to get back at you, leaking something missile technology to north korean, for example. Look, the japanese young generation can be ignorance about the WWII and we wouldn't care a bit. Nobody is longing for your petty apology.
(and you ae right. this is not about fair. and this is not about truth either. this is about what we think it's fair. Well at least we don't shooting it out like the goons in isreal.
-tino
You can say it again, brother. Amen.
The cross broser support is so impossible that I have moved to flash for most stuff.
exactly, and IE on mac is better than Netscape6 anyway. Seriously, I don't worry about MS browser monopoly anymore because there won't be anymore new version on majority of the users IE6 will not be available on win98 win95, which is over 50% of the user base. If a good OS such as win2000 can't get people to upgrade, there's nothing else MS can do to make people upgrade.
I do most of my work on flash. (yechen.org) While I understand theres a few bugs on flash5 player. I'm not going to do anything flash6 only when it come out, cause flash4/flash5 that comes with the browsers IS going to be the standard for the next 5-8 years. That's it folks. There's no more browser war, there's no more standard compliment war. IE5+flash5 is the net.
Tino
doesn't work for IE5, besides, it should search dictionary.com, not google
I meant to say "I'm not so sure is a bad thing."
(I'm a Cantonese, has lived in new york for about 6 yrs) I notice that a lot of these conflict come up prior to China going into WTO. I seriously think Chinese government is not too crazy about getting into WTO.
And one more thing. What's these "international law" you are speaking of. International gaming is like wild wild west. You get more when you have power. And I'm sure it's a bad thing.
CY
You mean send out godzillion F111 to bomb china, bomb where? Do you know how big China is, stooopid.
CY
what should replace js and java is flash, not these bullshit. I havn't seen one single java applet run as fast as an identical functioned swf file. Flash is optimize for graphic and render and interaction. Imagine a security updated netscape3 with latest flash plugin. It can do all the things the newest browser can do and footprint in probably 2 meg.
That's how bs html 4.0 and other bs VRML perprosal has become.
CY
(if you think i don't know anythng about web design, check out my homepage yeche.org)
I have a theory, the part of the reason Japanese are so obssess and pay so much attention to the future is that their past is not so holy (Italian, on the other hand, care so much about the past cause let's face it, they have the best past/ancestor)
/.ers know how many chinese were killed in NanJin? See that, that's what i mean. asian, at least chinese like to use different way to resolve the historic problem. Keep making movie as a reminder is not one of them. Like I say, I'm too familier with japanese culture to "have a distaste in my month" when talk about them.)
It's like a person who has done something they are not pound of, and they would more likely to say "the past is past, what do you want me to do, let's move on) Japan, in alot of asian countries' minds, hasn't fully apology, take responsibility to what they did during wwII. Of cause they are more likely to look ahead.
Now I'm not saying this because I'm a cantonese, I really don't care if japan never apologize for what they did and feel guilty for it, and japanese youth know little about the war crime and stuff. I come up with this theory cause I like to use human beghavior to explain a country. (I know how many jews were killed by hitler in wwII, how many of you
but that's what people think when they already immigrted to US! Duh. Not what people think when they decide to stay. You have to think like that to justify the extra shittiness you encounter in the new country.
/me refuse to talk to my father, until he apologize for getting my ass to new york from canton without ever asking if I wanted to. And he has to apologize in front of everybody. I mean eveeeerrrrybooody[/gary oldman impression]
CY
You can't tape over DVD you stupid. There are alot of people willing to pay big money for the highest quality Simpsons episodes possible. And the home sex video too.
CY
First of all, you are the first time I hear this term "honorary asian" O I mean honorary white bullshit.
And it's not the word you speak of, but the frankly way you bring up this term that make you come off a racist. You sir, are a fucking racist.
(Let's do this the democratic way, let's vote whether you are a racist. My 0.02 goes to yes.)
CY
Who do you think make the 20G hard drive, toshiba of course. Go to the adorable Libretto page and check for installation of 20G hard drives.
Old subnotebook you say, 2 years has passed and nobody has come up with a smaller subnotebook compare to my libby110. Those Sony stuff are just fancy looking.
CY
In the moment of true, he showed that he has no ambition whatsoever. Isn't that a reason to get rid of him? Especially for a tiny company. You are assuming the higher up managerment are morons. That is possible for people in a big corporatetion where middle managerment come from college. But if this boss is a high school drop out who started from nothing, he is likely to be pissed off by the lack of responsibility of the said worker.
:) Really )
And another thing, the chances are, people in higher up is smarter than people in lower down, including the engineers. (You don't have to believe me, I'm a computer science and Studio Art BFA double major in making
CY
I would really interest in how he get the Karate Girl. More human story, Linus. Hollywood it up.
CY
But the PS2 is already twice as expensive as the DC here. $300 vs. $150 here in US
You guys are paying sucker money man.
CY
You know, Palm already can sell the m100 at 100 and still make a profit. They simply don't have any competition at the low end market.
By the time this thing is out, m100plus will be something like 59.99. And Tiger Electronic will be selling purple Barbie Palm.
More low-end keyring PDA to keep Palm honest, yes. A better OS than PalmOS, I don't think so.
CY
I agree with you subscribe software is not a bad idea (at least MS admit that they can never "patch" their software enough)
But are you on crack? How the hell do you charge subscribe fee for a GPL software.
CY
The dam is nowhere near tibet. Don't read everything according to the map. The local culture is day and night with tibetian culture.
CY
The more technical-savvy the system, the lamer the song selections. I'm downloading cutthroat island score right now, try that on openNap. And normally opennap doeesn't even retrun results within a minute. I do use napigator to jump between napster servers.
of course if napster got their ass kicked, everyone will be DoSing opennap and I'll never get anything.
CY
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no!
because 1) It make sense to have 2 children from 2 adults, right?
2) They can't do anything to stop them anyway. How do you punish they. The only way to punish people in city to have second child is not giving the couple new house apartment. (You get your apartment for free from the country-own companies, remember? at least that's in theory.) The poeple in country side already live in their own house, so what can you do.
You should get some Huong Jian-Xing (or Jiang-Xing ?) movie, which is hard to find. He is as good as Barry Levinson. Some of them deal with the "getting new house" situation as good as any Barry Levinson outputs, the grossly underrated "Tin Man" for example.
(can't figure out the correct spelling, email me if u interest, name0000@yahoo.com -ye chen)
CY
As a chinese, I was quike taken by his first book. (I got the soundtarck btw, much better than John McWhatever's film) It has chinese version in china (mainland) and Taiwan. Not sure if it has HK version. By the time I follow him to that Nuclear/Super Bowl book I got totally bored out. I barely make it throught.
The guy is done, really. A long time ago. EW said it has alot of Arian racism slang going on. The only thing puzzle me is that how can he make such a boring subject into a 1000 pages epic? What exactly is the new technology he can write about for the Chinese side??? And chinese spy system is never active outside of its chinese circle. (looks different, remember.)
People with half brian know that Chinese economic system hasn't been socialistic for last 10 years. They keep this strange situation all due various reasons. You can blame it all to russian, however. Their capitalisation has been a disaster. And we know us won't save our ass if needed.
I have been reading some urban japanese anthropology books. I havn't aware of any chinese counterparts. So you have to look around. The only social reseach book of comtemperary chinese I encounter (that is not in chinese) is a new york chinatown gangs and their interwin. It's very hardcore anthor. book. The author wrote both the english and the chinese versions, check it out. Also Jia Ping-Wa may well be the greatest rural novalist of the 90's. I promise you he is a lot better than us best seller types (because novelist has alot more freedom in chinese than the film makers) Find english translation if you can.
CY
Exactly, here's a dollar and get your butts to a decent Chinese restaurant in Chinatown (the ones that are 3 store big and serve mostly _Chinese_)
CY