Both of these points are well taken. However, let's turn the tables.
What I'm about to suggest is something I've thought a lot about.
Let's trade tit for tat.
Let's let the cameras stay. Additionally, let's allow the public to view the cameras in public and record their presence to the public.
Spying has always been a two way street.
We see where citizens are recording police. That's fair. The police work for the public, and what they do is often in public view. Their salaries belong to the public. Their weapons, safety equipment and their actions while on duty belong to the public.
The same applies to the FBI or the CIA or the NSA or a governor or a congressperson or a mayor or a street sweeper.
Your passive descriptions, "... doesn't look as...," and "It seems...," "... which bears a date...,"... the documents seem...," make my point, precisely.
1.
a fossil reptile of the Mesozoic era, often reaching an enormous size.
2.
a person or thing that is outdated or has become obsolete because of failure to adapt to changing circumstances.
bird brd/ noun noun: bird; plural noun: birds
1.
a warm-blooded egg-laying vertebrate distinguished by the possession of feathers, wings, and a beak and (typically) by being able to fly.
synonyms: fowl; More
chick, fledgling, nestling;
informalfeathered friend, birdie;
budgie;
technicalavifauna
"feeding the birds"
North Americaninformal
an aircraft, spacecraft, satellite, or guided missile.
"the crews worked frantically to ready their birds for flight"
2.
informal
a person of a specified kind or character.
"I'm a pretty tough old bird"
A central app is aggregating separate apps and some of the separate app owners don't like it. It's about money. It's not about convenience to other app users.
Slashdot Mirror
By definition, a public place is ...
Both of these points are well taken. However, let's turn the tables.
What I'm about to suggest is something I've thought a lot about.
Let's trade tit for tat.
Let's let the cameras stay. Additionally, let's allow the public to view the cameras in public and record their presence to the public.
Spying has always been a two way street.
We see where citizens are recording police. That's fair. The police work for the public, and what they do is often in public view. Their salaries belong to the public. Their weapons, safety equipment and their actions while on duty belong to the public.
The same applies to the FBI or the CIA or the NSA or a governor or a congressperson or a mayor or a street sweeper.
Let's all spy on each other and call it even.
Your passive descriptions, " ... doesn't look as ... ," and "It seems ... ," " ... which bears a date ... ," ... the documents seem ... ," make my point, precisely.
... everybody.
... just as soon as I fabricate it.
Let's all rush to Google® and look up the definitions of "provenance," and the concept of, "chain of custody."
In court, defendants have a right to face their accusers.
Wikileaks promises that it will not reveal its sources.
We're all nerds here and some of you, like me, have hand-crafted emails that look perfectly real, including the header information.
Great prank material, but certainly not admissible in court.
NOTE: My interest is matters of digital law; not politics.
Ignorance is not improved by by lengthy narrative nor faux complexity.
Grab a dictionary. Any dictionary.
Fuck you.
dinosaur
dnsôr/
noun
plural noun: dinosaurs
1.
a fossil reptile of the Mesozoic era, often reaching an enormous size.
2.
a person or thing that is outdated or has become obsolete because of failure to adapt to changing circumstances.
bird
brd/
noun
noun: bird; plural noun: birds
1.
a warm-blooded egg-laying vertebrate distinguished by the possession of feathers, wings, and a beak and (typically) by being able to fly.
synonyms: fowl; More
chick, fledgling, nestling;
informalfeathered friend, birdie;
budgie;
technicalavifauna
"feeding the birds"
North Americaninformal
an aircraft, spacecraft, satellite, or guided missile.
"the crews worked frantically to ready their birds for flight"
2.
informal
a person of a specified kind or character.
"I'm a pretty tough old bird"
... are different.
This is not wild honey.
This is a blantant ploy to legalize profits for big business.
... they can even keep and bear arms.
For reference, see Citizens United.
... Assange hasn't been in the news.
Coincidence?
No.
Birds have a definition.
Dinosaurs have another.
Lineage doesn't provide equivalence.
About four billion years ago, Earth, Venus and Mars may have all been habitable.
That's when they were created.
Things were quite messy back then.
You're on to something and there's another component:
Of all the life forms on this planet, only one has developed the capability to deliberately fuck with stuff on the planet.
While that makes us unique, it doesn't mean we won't shit in our own mess kit.
I can dig the extinction hypothesis because humans will probably be among the shortest-lived animals on this planet and stuff.
Look at the dinosaurs. They lasted 200 million years and were minding their own business (and not consciously altering shit).
Who here among us seriously entertain the idea that humans can coexist for more than a negligible fraction of that time?
You asked if some shopping comparison sites still use web scraping.
Therein lies the rub.
You don't know how they do it.
Companies often PAY to be included in shopping-comparison.
They want their name out there.
!.) What's the chances of travel sites allowing their data to appear along a competitor's without the same objections?
2.) YOU are suggesting a business model for companies you don't own.
Call Apple and see what you can do for them while you're at it.
Answer: Who owns the web pages?
You certainly can't "scrape," cnn.com.
Somebody gotta do it.
A central app is aggregating separate apps and some of the separate app owners don't like it. It's about money. It's not about convenience to other app users.
Or maybe the reader is less than average.
Or ...
Use three fucking apps and do the maths?
Not this.
The objective is to communicate. If you can't decipher the shti, thn mayb u shud edyouk8t ursef.
This is a matter of siphoning data. It's a 45 degree drill into someone else's property via API.
Owners of the "P" in "API" can, and do, grant or deny third party access.
Often, API access is a licensing revenue stream.
This concept has years of case history that favours Uber.
... anyone thought of this before?
How fucking clever.
Oh, wait ...
I had this goddam discussion with management back in 1996 all the way up until I retired in 2014.
They said, while it's a problem, it's an IT problem, and we get no funding for training, best-practice firewalls and shit like that.
My insistence that they change passwords at least once a decade, and to refrain from using the same simple password for EVERYTHING went ignored.
As a courtesy, I just sent them a mass email saying that I put every one of their emails into haveibeenpwned and they need to get their shit together.
They want me to CALL and explain.
If they won't listen in person over a period of years, a fucking phone call is a waste of my time.
I sent one more email pointing to retirement.
The other day it was 200.
Today it's 1000.
This goddam petition is bloating, so clearly, Microsoft is behind it.
Wrong.
The fucking problem is the greed of CEOs and the shareholders.
Their currency is ______.
(Hint: stocks).