He did not leave any proof and he provided no path to test his conjecture.
From TFS:
Hawking suggested that information could indeed be deleted through Hawking radiation, which is a type of theoretical radiation that can escape from inside a black hole. This process has never been empirically observed, but the radiation would supposedly be stripped of all information about its original properties -- and that would violate the rules of the universe as we know them. In his last paper, Hawking and his colleagues speculated that a phenomenon called "soft hair" might resolve the black hole information paradox. The idea is that trails of light and gravity particles might encircle the event horizon, and could store, at the very least, entropic information about matter that fell into the black hole.
On a more dreary note: The information on the drive may or may not have been deleted.
[insert Schrödinger's cat]
It would be accurate to say that we could not get to the information, but it could have been intact and merely inaccessible to us.
Here's my main point as applies to Hawking's "information loss:"
Even if WE wiped the drive, and set the bits to all zeros or ones or a combination, we did not lose information -- we changed the information into a pattern that's not useful to use. We can't rebuild that Excel spreadsheet we wiped.
The quandary, and where Hawking's hypotheses fails, is the definition of "information."
My position is that all of the information is there, it's just not something we could use in our quest to prove a deterministic universe, much like making a pig from a link of sausage.
... wherein bright theoretical scientists try to straighten a persistent bend in their discipline that moves away from their area of expertise.
Hawking essentially says that the information comes out of the black hole, but not in a useful form that could, in theory, be used to construct an original.
Useful to whom?
Just because we can't recognize the processed information and trace it back to its original state doesn't mean shit.
The universe made us. It doesn't need use to put it back together again.
Einstein went down a similar path. He worked all his life trying to extend his theories to perfection.
With almost predictable regularity, Einstein came up with a new Theory of Everything and, like Hawking, provided no opportunity to test the ideas.
Meanwhile, younger theorists, about the same age as Albert had been in his prime, had moved on.
Einstein died trying to take dice away from God.
Hawking, like Newton and Einstein, was one of the rare talents that pop up throughout history and he deserves accolades and honours for his work.
Let's say it takes 30 minutes (being very, very generous here) to do the patch, post the blurb and stuff. Appreciate I'm ignoring the time it takes to locate these puppies.
... to test my WiFi connections per the article: I run Who's On My Wifi. copied the IP column into Excel. Where cell A1 is 192.168.000.001 cell B1 is ="start http://"&A1&"/err.htm" For row 2 & 3: 192.168.000.002 ="start http://"&A2&"/err.htm" 192.168.000.004 ="start http://"&A3&"/err.htm" etc... Then I copied the contents of column B into Notepad and saved as a.bat file to the Desktop: -- start http://192.168.000.019/err.htm start http://192.168.000.001/err.htm start http://192.168.000.002/err.htm
exit -- I executed the.bat file and it opened 37 instances of Firefox. The only two hits I got were for my R7000 Netgear Router login page (none of the usernames/passwords in TFA worked because I had changed them) and an error page on my Brother printer (did not look like error in TFA). The other pages found nothing.
I used Opera back in the days when Moby Dick was a minnow *and it's still in my toolbox) because I could open shitloads of instances because the footprint was small.
There's something about it that just doesn't seem right.
I'd agree with you if your position that it's just me, OK?
I could run it while Network Monitor is up (I have WireShark but like NM better) so I could maybe see what's up, but I'm a retired and tired IT guy and I'm not in the mood to do a deep dive.
I use DuckDuckGo, Firefox in Private Browser, NoScript, ADBlock Plus, uBlock Origin and No Coin.
I erase all temp files, including browser history (that's not supposed to be there, right?) the auto-run ccleaner.
Changing subject, Y2K was a once-in-a-lifetime event, as I think you know.
The most entertaining part, for me, was all the trees killed on CYA boilerplate we (law firm) sent out to any address we could find and we didn't even vet to see if people, businesses, persons were even alive.
That cost thousands of dollars in postage, paper, toners, and time.
Me, I just made sure the system didn't go off the rails while they processed all that shit.
On the flip side, we demanded reciprocal letters of (legally binding) assurances from any address we could find and we didn't even vet to see if people, businesses, persons were even alive.
That whole crowd pre-defined "problems" as being due to some technical fault beyond any sender's/receiver's control.
Management came up with a neat idea for me, "Captain... just set the clocks back to the future; see what fails; roll back the clocks, and fix stuff."
Some people actually did that.
Servers went nuts because timing on desktops didn't agree, licenses expired (my favourite) and backups were looking at some NTP server and failed.
It was a hoot.
I had applied all the best practices available and spent New Year's Eve and part of Jan 1 babysitting the system.
Absolutely nothing went wrong except...
We had a Novel 4.1 server (legacy) that didn't make the jump, but it was damned near dead by then, anyway.
Slashdot Mirror
... proof ...
He did not leave any proof and he provided no path to test his conjecture.
From TFS:
Hawking suggested that information could indeed be deleted through Hawking radiation, which is a type of theoretical radiation that can escape from inside a black hole. This process has never been empirically observed, but the radiation would supposedly be stripped of all information about its original properties -- and that would violate the rules of the universe as we know them. In his last paper, Hawking and his colleagues speculated that a phenomenon called "soft hair" might resolve the black hole information paradox. The idea is that trails of light and gravity particles might encircle the event horizon, and could store, at the very least, entropic information about matter that fell into the black hole.
That's funny, and I feel you loss.
On a more dreary note: The information on the drive may or may not have been deleted.
[insert Schrödinger's cat]
It would be accurate to say that we could not get to the information, but it could have been intact and merely inaccessible to us.
Here's my main point as applies to Hawking's "information loss:"
Even if WE wiped the drive, and set the bits to all zeros or ones or a combination, we did not lose information -- we changed the information into a pattern that's not useful to use. We can't rebuild that Excel spreadsheet we wiped.
The quandary, and where Hawking's hypotheses fails, is the definition of "information."
My position is that all of the information is there, it's just not something we could use in our quest to prove a deterministic universe, much like making a pig from a link of sausage.
... wherein bright theoretical scientists try to straighten a persistent bend in their discipline that moves away from their area of expertise.
Hawking essentially says that the information comes out of the black hole, but not in a useful form that could, in theory, be used to construct an original.
Useful to whom?
Just because we can't recognize the processed information and trace it back to its original state doesn't mean shit.
The universe made us. It doesn't need use to put it back together again.
Einstein went down a similar path. He worked all his life trying to extend his theories to perfection.
With almost predictable regularity, Einstein came up with a new Theory of Everything and, like Hawking, provided no opportunity to test the ideas.
Meanwhile, younger theorists, about the same age as Albert had been in his prime, had moved on.
Einstein died trying to take dice away from God.
Hawking, like Newton and Einstein, was one of the rare talents that pop up throughout history and he deserves accolades and honours for his work.
... gonna want an unsend undo because terrorism.
... a static I didn't like.
LOL
They should have used a car analogy.
... the pulse of laser light said, "I've been framed."
What I'd like to see is a double login: one for access, the other for self-destruct (or at least a wipe until iCloud restore).
So, for FaceID, blink three times and for touch, pinky and for PIN, an alternate.
When those are detected, it's brick time.
Yep.
There are two classes of information involved in searches: Things you have and things you know.
Bio-metrics are things you have. Pass codes are things you know.
The things you have are subject to search. The things you know are protected by the 5rh amendment.
... to consider:
Let's say it takes 30 minutes (being very, very generous here) to do the patch, post the blurb and stuff. Appreciate I'm ignoring the time it takes to locate these puppies.
100,000 routers X 30 minutes = 3,000,000 router-minutes ÷ 60 = 50,000 router-hours ÷ 24 = 2,083 router-days ÷ 365.25 = 5.7 router-years.
What OS do you recommend?
... to test my WiFi connections per the article: ... .bat file to the Desktop:
I run Who's On My Wifi. copied the IP column into Excel.
Where cell A1 is 192.168.000.001 cell B1 is ="start http://"&A1&"/err.htm"
For row 2 & 3:
192.168.000.002 ="start http://"&A2&"/err.htm"
192.168.000.004 ="start http://"&A3&"/err.htm"
etc
Then I copied the contents of column B into Notepad and saved as a
--
start http://192.168.000.019/err.htm
start http://192.168.000.001/err.htm
start http://192.168.000.002/err.htm
exit .bat file and it opened 37 instances of Firefox.
--
I executed the
The only two hits I got were for my R7000 Netgear Router login page (none of the usernames/passwords in TFA worked because I had changed them) and an error page on my Brother printer (did not look like error in TFA).
The other pages found nothing.
I used Opera back in the days when Moby Dick was a minnow *and it's still in my toolbox) because I could open shitloads of instances because the footprint was small.
We have tabs for that, now.
Syriasly?
... and advocated back in the day when Facebook got uptight about, Merged Women and oh wait ...
It was about photos showing breasts.
Down went Breast Feeding Moms, Breast Cancer, Breast self-checks ... you name it.
A bunch of us encouraged any and all Facebook members to post breast pictures wrapped in art or social issues but Facebook pulled out early.
I was glad, but some women had a problem with it on another level.
Retired IT guy.
I had bugs now and then. Sometimes the bug would be out of my wheelhouse and I'd call technical support.
Luckily, I had SLAs that were very good (expensive) and I got direct vendor support.
Maybe Google has to call their tech support in India?
Anyway, Google should get the extended warranty on their stuff.
Pale Moon makes me break out in a rash.
I'm not saying that to piss you off.
There's something about it that just doesn't seem right.
I'd agree with you if your position that it's just me, OK?
I could run it while Network Monitor is up (I have WireShark but like NM better) so I could maybe see what's up, but I'm a retired and tired IT guy and I'm not in the mood to do a deep dive.
I use DuckDuckGo, Firefox in Private Browser, NoScript, ADBlock Plus, uBlock Origin and No Coin.
I erase all temp files, including browser history (that's not supposed to be there, right?) the auto-run ccleaner.
Here's my .bat file (look at the RunDll32.exe):
taskkill /f /im iexplore.exe /f /im firefox.exe /f /im chrome.exe /f /im MicrosoftEdge.exe /f /im MicrosoftEdgeCP.exe /auto
taskkill
taskkill
taskkill
taskkill
RunDll32.exe InetCpl.cpl,ClearMyTracksByProcess 4351
cd\
cd C:\Program Files\CCleaner
ccleaner64
exit
FAT32 or NTFS?
Changing subject, Y2K was a once-in-a-lifetime event, as I think you know.
The most entertaining part, for me, was all the trees killed on CYA boilerplate we (law firm) sent out to any address we could find and we didn't even vet to see if people, businesses, persons were even alive.
That cost thousands of dollars in postage, paper, toners, and time.
Me, I just made sure the system didn't go off the rails while they processed all that shit.
On the flip side, we demanded reciprocal letters of (legally binding) assurances from any address we could find and we didn't even vet to see if people, businesses, persons were even alive.
That whole crowd pre-defined "problems" as being due to some technical fault beyond any sender's/receiver's control.
Management came up with a neat idea for me, "Captain ... just set the clocks back to the future; see what fails; roll back the clocks, and fix stuff."
Some people actually did that.
Servers went nuts because timing on desktops didn't agree, licenses expired (my favourite) and backups were looking at some NTP server and failed.
It was a hoot.
I had applied all the best practices available and spent New Year's Eve and part of Jan 1 babysitting the system.
Absolutely nothing went wrong except ...
We had a Novel 4.1 server (legacy) that didn't make the jump, but it was damned near dead by then, anyway.
Good times.
... is going after our guns.
Where's the NRA when you need them and stuff?
... , a non-profit association dedicated to supporting enterprise use of Unmanned Aerial Systems ...
Is that like a special interest group for "for-profits", kinda like lobbyists or a PACs or stuff?
... I'm going back to IE on my XP.
Not as much as I used to be.
I'm 72 and I had enough drugs back in the 60s dude (or dudette as may apply) so Viagra's out, but thanks for the kudos.
You're dope yersef.
You do not know what the fuck you're talking about.
What the hell?
There's a whole world out there that involves aircraft carriers, helicopters, prop jobs capable of cruising at 200 feet above the sea, jets, ...
I worked on the P-3 Orion (hurricane hunter) out of NAS Jax, as well, and it's a shame that you're stepping up like this.
Let's end this on a positive note, OK?
To those who served before me
To those with whom I served
To those who serve us now
Thank you for your service
CaptainDork
Out.
Thanks.