The Hero's journey archetype is also a philosophy. It is the philosophy of the tribe. I don't know the exact page, but Karl Popper has interesting things to say about tribal heroes in the Open Society and Its Enemies. Of course mythology and tribal ideology blend together well, so I guess we agree on this point.
StarWars Episode 1 is antidemocratic because the Jedis are elitist birth right aristocrats, the protagonist -- a later mass murderer -- has religious messianic origins (virgin birth). The main bad guy is the opposition leader in a democratic forum, the Senate, while the good guy/gal is a 14-year old pretty queen.
If this does not suck badly, I don't know what to think.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that the AI machines have been programmed to keep humans around and happy. So they keep around thousands of humans and provide them a fulfilled safe life in the Matrix.
There has to be some kind or robotic law a la Asimov that makes the machines depend on the human's existance. They kind or perverted the meaning, but they can not get rid of the humans.
Yeah, Star Wars is boring and has about the philosophical sophistication of George Bush Jr. It is really a movie for children and young teenagers. Later installments are also antidemocratic and full of bullshit.
OTOH Matrix was a pretty nice movie with a nice story and lots of insider jokes for adults interested in philosophical matters. Some ridiculous plot holes do not make the movie crap.
What they both have in common is awesome and ahead of their time special effects.
I guess you meant it the other way around, but seriously Star Wars sucks badly. I was so disappointed by Episode 1 that I will never spend one dime on a Star Wars movie.
This is one little gem. Cool 2D graphics done in a 3D engine. Minimalistic but beautiful. And the great simple game idea of Robotron on crack. Free Demo available. And yes it runs on Linux!!!
Free demo with 14 levels here: http://www.pompom.org.uk/
I spent the money for the full version and it is extremely cool.
Spacetripper is nice as well, but not as crazy and addictive as mutantstorm IMHO.
Actually Microsoft is the only company at all, that might be able to install Windows on 10000 boxes. After all, they are the only one, who does not have to pay for it.
It would be a horrible experience for google users though.(all of us?)
I hope you are pleased to have silenced criticism once more by moderating me down. It was intended to be funny, but I guess if you go to war, humour is only in the way, right?
And now back to News for Nationalistic Nerds, Stuff that matters to the States only.
Maybe Old Europe will havce the chance to save you from your dictators too now?
I am 6 trillion times smarter than everyone else. So 99.99 % of the world population are of below average intelligence.
What you mean is below median intelligence.
Why did you publish "Rainbow Mars"?
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I think this was the worst book I read in 2002 and I read a lot of books. It sucks so badly, it is unbelievable. It felt unfinished and unedited. It was also the last book I bought from you.
[Note this is not a troll: The book got less than 3 stars on amazon!]
Most of your later books are below the standards you set earlier.
Did you run out of ideas? What happened to the sense of wonder in the early Known Space series?
If an app didn't support it, or crashed on startup, the throbber would hang indefinately.
Are you lying? Have you last used KDE in 1997? You are wrong.
The (configurable) throbber will quit no matter what happens after 30 seconds.
I have yet to find an application that does not "SUPPORT" KDE startup notification. Netscape, Mozilla, all GNOME and KDE apps, OpenOffice, AcrobatReader, gv and lyx all support it.
Are you telling me that the GNOME startup notification will work only with GNOME apps and that it is more "robust and useful" because of this? I can't believe it.
Are there really any technical differences? AAFAICS, both GNOME and KDE agreed on a common protocol for X11 startup notification support:
Realize that some people make jokes about tragedies. It makes them feel better.
Just because YOU don't want to make jokes, you should not stop others from doing so. The world is cruel enough, it is better to laugh at hardships than to cry because of them.
What makes me really sad, is that now ALL the US money they spent on the space shuttle will go out to the US military probably.
we all know that space travwel is a riskless activity and the NASA technology has never failed before.
Just ridiculous. Did you also speculate that there were some students involved when the Challenger crashed? Maybe they wanted to get back at their teacher.
There is nothing wrong with reusing software. But we already have libraries for dealing with FTP, SSH, WebDav, and all those other protocols.
I am not aware of a set of libraries that would support nearly as many protocols as the kioslaves with the same API. Pray, Mr. Troll, where would I find those miraculous libraries?
Do you know that the kioslaves are often mostly WRAPPERS? audiocd:// uses cdparanoia, smb:// uses libsmb, floppy:// uses the mtools, https:// usses openssl.
Tell us how you would provide a single API to all these different libs?
However, I prefer the Mist theme for GTK2 [ximian.com] above all those, they look good, clean, and imho pretty sophisticated. They look good while avoiding being theme overkill. It's completely personal opinion though, these things always are. I think Keramik is a bit fat.
I agree. Check out the Light Styles (2 and 3) in KDE, looks like that is where Ximian good the inspiration for their "Mist", which means crap in German btw.:-) Check it out!
KDE likes to see itself as a close thing to windows, as far as I can gather. Or at least, many slashdotters see KDE as the optimal migration aid for windows users. On the other hand, I don't know of many "power-users" of linux that use KDE - this may merely represent short-sightedness on my behalf/mixing with a unique subset of users, but in my experience people who actually want to get work done don't stay with KDE - they migrate to more memory efficient, faster WMs and either use a better file manager than konqueror or simply use the CLI.
I don't think KDE is any closer to Windows(Luna or Classic) than to Liquid or OS/2 Workplace, Beos,... KDE wants to be easy to use for people coming to linux which means Windows users. But I consider myself a power user and I have never even used windows. My experiments with other WMs have always disappointed me for their lack of features or comfort (icewm is my favorite minimalist WM). KDE is so tweakable and customizable, that I consider it as perfect for the power user. Also, which file manager is superior to konqueror? rox and nautilus are a lot less powerful.
But this whole sub-thread came about because of someone pointing out that you couldn't move the time slider in noatun with the left mouse button. And this behaviour is exactly what windows users are used to - try xmms or winamp and you'll see what I mean.
I also prefer xmms interface to noatun, especially because the playlists in noatun suck. But you can very well move the slider with the left mouse button by clicking on it and dragging it in noatun. Putting the middle click jumping into the interface does not hurt the newbie and is great for the KDE power user. In fact I miss the functionality in lyx (xforms, 1.3 will feature a qt interface and does jump on middle click), openoffice and xmms. There is no valid reason against it.
Look Mr. smart-ass, KDE is a unix dektop. It "looks" like Windows by default, to convince lamers like you that they can use it, but it also uses standard X11 style cut'n'paste. BTW, konqueror/kfm was filemanager and browser before windows98. In fact the idea is ingenious and KDE has been internet enabled much more radically than Windows. Try saving from MS Word to an ftp folder.
KDE in fact can be configured to look like a Motif Desktop. If jumping by middleclick annoys you, just choose a crippled looknfeel, that changes this behaviour.
Now would you please also tell me what is archaic about jumping to a certain point in a slider by using mouse button 3? Are GNOME and KDE archaic? Is it better to have no way of jumping to a certain point like Windows?
I would shout my mouth if I were as clueless as you.
it IS unfinished. SuSE has not put much refinement into the GNOME2 packages, they more or less take the release of GNOME2 as it is released. So please complain to the GNOMEs, not to SuSE. It is not a distributors job to finish and fix a desktop environment. SuSE has not broken these packages with their changes, they were crap to begin with. Redhat broke KDE with their changes.
I know that OTOH KDE releases feel finished, because I compile them myself and there is nothing broken or unpolished in them. KDE-3.1 will be better than ever!
> Firstly, I don't think Slashdot has a tendancy either way, > I see just as many stupid trolls for and against both.
Excuse me? Are you joking? Look e.g at the announcement of safari, which was totally hidden. Next came an article from Mozilla/Gecko users ans how they can't sleep at night because khtml was chosen.
> The GNOME/GTK world has a strong set of UI guidelines in the form of the HIG that even > non-gnome apps are complying with (like xchat, gaim etc) because despite its lack of perfection, > it gives a clear direction and it makes sense to follow it.
> Last time I checked, I couldn't even find the KDE equivalents on usability.kde.org (though I > have seen at least one before) and I've been told there are two such guides, both unfinished.
Please have a look at the KDE User interface guide, which exists in a usable form for longer than GNOME-1.0. http://developer.kde.org/documentation /standards/k de/style/basics/ Generally due to the more modular code, KDE behaves more consistently than GNOME/GTK.
The GNOMES, should have adapted the same Interface GUIDE, but no, they had to start from scratch, just to be different.
Finally the statments about noatun -- which I btw find worse than xmms --, which made me laugh hard: > Excellent tripped me up several times, for instance it took me quite a while to figure out > how to click on a part of the time slider to make it jump to a part of the song. Left clicking > moves it in increments. Right clicking? No. Double clicking? No. Ohhh, that's right, middling > clicking lets you move the slider to the part under the mouse. Obvious.
Yes. It is totally obious. Middle clicking a slider has meant jump here for over ten years on X11. All sliders in KDE obey it.[Unless you choose a different look'n'feel style] BTW, even my GTK apps obey this.
That you don't know this shows your own ignorance.
The Hero's journey archetype is also a philosophy. It is the philosophy of the tribe. I don't know the exact page, but Karl Popper has interesting things to say about tribal heroes in the Open Society and Its Enemies. Of course mythology and tribal ideology blend together well, so I guess we agree on this point.
/gal is a 14-year old pretty queen.
StarWars Episode 1 is antidemocratic because the Jedis are elitist birth right aristocrats, the protagonist -- a later mass murderer -- has religious messianic origins (virgin birth). The main bad guy is the opposition leader in a democratic forum, the Senate, while the good guy
If this does not suck badly, I don't know what to think.
The only explanation that makes sense to me is that the AI machines have been programmed to keep humans around and happy. So they keep around thousands of humans and provide them a fulfilled safe life in the Matrix.
There has to be some kind or robotic law a la Asimov that makes the machines depend on the human's existance. They kind or perverted the meaning, but they can not get rid of the humans.
Yeah, Star Wars is boring and has about the philosophical sophistication of George Bush Jr. It is really a movie for children and young teenagers. Later installments are also antidemocratic and full of bullshit.
OTOH Matrix was a pretty nice movie with a nice story and lots of insider jokes for adults interested in philosophical matters. Some ridiculous plot holes do not make the movie crap.
What they both have in common is awesome and ahead of their time special effects.
I guess you meant it the other way around, but seriously Star Wars sucks badly. I was so disappointed by Episode 1 that I will never spend one dime on a Star Wars movie.
I can't find Gill Sans on my obsolete Windows XP Professional partition. Are you sure it does not come with MS Office or where did you get it?
This is one little gem. Cool 2D graphics done in a 3D engine. Minimalistic but beautiful. And the great simple game idea of Robotron on crack. Free Demo available. And yes it runs on Linux!!!
Free demo with 14 levels here:
http://www.pompom.org.uk/
I spent the money for the full version and it is extremely cool.
Spacetripper is nice as well, but not as crazy and addictive as mutantstorm IMHO.
Actually Microsoft is the only company at all, that might be able to install Windows on 10000 boxes. After all, they are the only one, who does not have to pay for it.
It would be a horrible experience for google users though.(all of us?)
I hope you are pleased to have silenced criticism once more by moderating me down. It was intended to be funny, but I guess if you go to war, humour is only in the way, right?
And now back to News for Nationalistic Nerds, Stuff that matters to the States only.
Maybe Old Europe will havce the chance to save you from your dictators too now?
Otherwise the Bush administration might have to bomb those cute little Martians to free them of their oppressive government.
OTOH those who survive would be taught democracy by an American military government. Mabye not so bad after all. And they would get McDonalds!
I am 6 trillion times smarter than everyone else. So 99.99 % of the world population are of below average intelligence.
What you mean is below median intelligence.
I think this was the worst book I read in 2002 and I
read a lot of books. It sucks so badly, it is unbelievable. It felt unfinished and unedited.
It was also the last book I bought from you.
[Note this is not a troll: The book got less than 3 stars on amazon!]
Most of your later books are below the standards you set earlier.
Did you run out of ideas?
What happened to the sense of wonder in the early Known Space series?
I have never understood the hoopla about MOO. If you compare it to the complexity and fun Stars! offers, it is blown right out of the water.
:-)
p here: news://rec.games.computer.stars
Also Stars! will work with your old copy of Windows-3.11 for Workgroups
Free demo here: http://crisium.com/stars/stars/demo.htm
Newsgrou
I promise that the spammers will have suffered. :-)
In related news: spamassassin 2.5 with bayesian filtering has reached BETA and works fine on my system.
See http://www.spamassassin.org
QT for the desktop (X11/Win/Mac) does NOT have a runtime license fee.
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QT/Embedded does have one, starting at 6$:
http://www.trolltech.com/products/embedded/p
QT for the desktop only has a moderate one time developer fee, if you don't want to use GPL:
http://www.trolltech.com/products/qt/pricin
Are you lying? Have you last used KDE in 1997?
You are wrong.
The (configurable) throbber will quit no matter what happens after 30 seconds.
I have yet to find an application that does not "SUPPORT" KDE startup notification. Netscape, Mozilla, all GNOME and KDE apps, OpenOffice, AcrobatReader, gv and lyx all support it.
Are you telling me that the GNOME startup notification will work only with GNOME apps and that it is more "robust and useful" because of this? I can't believe it.
Are there really any technical differences? AAFAICS, both GNOME and KDE agreed on a common protocol for X11 startup notification support:
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https://listman.redhat.com/pipermail/xdg-list/2
I mean seriously, KDE has all the features as well. And it is not below GNOME despite all the money that was poured into GNOME:
innovative use of CORBA
DCOP, kparts? KDE even used CORBA before GNOME-1.0 but they ditched it, because it is too slow and complicated
easy access to data wherever it might be located
Sounds like kioslaves to me. Imagine gnome-vfs from the ground up.
and so on.
Realize that some people make jokes about tragedies. It makes them feel better.
Just because YOU don't want to make jokes, you should not stop others from doing so.
The world is cruel enough, it is better to laugh at hardships than to cry because of them.
What makes me really sad, is that now ALL the US money they spent on the space shuttle will go out to the US military probably.
we all know that space travwel is a riskless activity and the NASA technology has never failed before.
Just ridiculous. Did you also speculate that there were some students involved when the Challenger crashed? Maybe they wanted to get back at their teacher.
There is nothing wrong with reusing software. But we already have libraries for dealing with FTP, SSH, WebDav, and all those other protocols.
I am not aware of a set of libraries that would support nearly as many protocols as the kioslaves with the same API. Pray, Mr. Troll, where would I find those miraculous libraries?
Do you know that the kioslaves are often mostly WRAPPERS? audiocd:// uses cdparanoia, smb:// uses libsmb, floppy:// uses the mtools, https:// usses openssl.
Tell us how you would provide a single API to all these different libs?
- Go to Settings->Configure Toolbars
- Go to Settings-> Configure Shortcuts
This is configurable, you know?Add the close current tab to the main toolbar, I put it behind the stop button.
Change the shortcut for Open Terminal and Open new Tab to your liking.
I agree. Check out the Light Styles (2 and 3) in KDE, looks like that is where Ximian good the inspiration for their "Mist", which means crap in German btw. :-) Check it out!
I don't think KDE is any closer to Windows(Luna or Classic) than to Liquid or OS/2 Workplace, Beos,...
KDE wants to be easy to use for people coming to linux which means Windows users. But I consider myself a power user and I have never even used windows. My experiments with other WMs have always disappointed me for their lack of features or comfort (icewm is my favorite minimalist WM). KDE is so tweakable and customizable, that I consider it as perfect for the power user. Also, which file manager is superior to konqueror? rox and nautilus are a lot less powerful.
But this whole sub-thread came about because of someone pointing out that you couldn't move the time slider in noatun with the left mouse button. And this behaviour is exactly what windows users are used to - try xmms or winamp and you'll see what I mean.
I also prefer xmms interface to noatun, especially because the playlists in noatun suck. But you can very well move the slider with the left mouse button by clicking on it and dragging it in noatun. Putting the middle click jumping into the interface does not hurt the newbie and is great for the KDE power user. In fact I miss the functionality in lyx (xforms, 1.3 will feature a qt interface and does jump on middle click), openoffice and xmms. There is no valid reason against it.
Look Mr. smart-ass,
KDE is a unix dektop. It "looks" like Windows by default, to convince lamers like you that they can use it, but it also uses standard X11 style cut'n'paste. BTW, konqueror/kfm was filemanager and browser before windows98. In fact the idea is ingenious and KDE has been internet enabled much more radically than Windows. Try saving from MS Word to an ftp folder.
KDE in fact can be configured to look like a Motif Desktop. If jumping by middleclick annoys you, just choose a crippled looknfeel, that changes this behaviour.
Now would you please also tell me what is archaic about jumping to a certain point in a slider by using mouse button 3? Are GNOME and KDE archaic? Is it better to have no way of jumping to a certain point like Windows?
I would shout my mouth if I were as clueless as you.
it IS unfinished. SuSE has not put much refinement into the GNOME2 packages, they more or less take the release of GNOME2 as it is released. So please complain to the GNOMEs, not to SuSE. It is not a distributors job to finish and fix a desktop environment.
SuSE has not broken these packages with their changes, they were crap to begin with. Redhat broke KDE with their changes.
I know that OTOH KDE releases feel finished, because I compile them myself and there is nothing broken or unpolished in them. KDE-3.1 will be better than ever!
> Openoffice/staroffice...same thing only you get
> one and only one UI - a windoze interface.
Nope. Choose Options, OpenOffice.org, View and Choose a Look&Feel.
You can choose between Macintosh(MacOS9),OS/2, Xwindows (Gnustep??) and Default (Windows lookalike).
I prefer "Macintosh" in combination with colored tabs from OS/2.
> Firstly, I don't think Slashdot has a tendancy either way,
n /standards/k de/style/basics/
> I see just as many stupid trolls for and against both.
Excuse me? Are you joking? Look e.g at the announcement of safari, which was totally hidden. Next came an article from Mozilla/Gecko users ans how they can't sleep at night because khtml was chosen.
> The GNOME/GTK world has a strong set of UI guidelines in the form of the HIG that even
> non-gnome apps are complying with (like xchat, gaim etc) because despite its lack of perfection,
> it gives a clear direction and it makes sense to follow it.
> Last time I checked, I couldn't even find the KDE equivalents on usability.kde.org (though I
> have seen at least one before) and I've been told there are two such guides, both unfinished.
Please have a look at the KDE User interface guide, which exists in a usable form for longer than GNOME-1.0.
http://developer.kde.org/documentatio
Generally due to the more modular code, KDE behaves more consistently than GNOME/GTK.
The GNOMES, should have adapted the same Interface GUIDE, but no, they had to start from scratch, just to be different.
Finally the statments about noatun -- which I btw find worse than xmms --, which made me laugh hard:
> Excellent tripped me up several times, for instance it took me quite a while to figure out
> how to click on a part of the time slider to make it jump to a part of the song. Left clicking
> moves it in increments. Right clicking? No. Double clicking? No. Ohhh, that's right, middling
> clicking lets you move the slider to the part under the mouse. Obvious.
Yes. It is totally obious. Middle clicking a slider has meant jump here for over ten years on X11. All sliders in KDE obey it.[Unless you choose a different look'n'feel style] BTW, even my GTK apps obey this.
That you don't know this shows your own ignorance.