If you're the _only_ idiot left that likes IE, you sure do surf a _hell_ of a lot of websites! If _security issues_ were the only problems with IE, I'd be a _much_ happier web developer.
Screw that - he should reprise his role from Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, in the new Star Wars movies! Oh yeah. And Shannon Elizabeth can take over as Leia. I guess James Van Der Beek can be Luke - nobody really cares there. Piefucker can be C3PO. Kevin Smith as a new Sith, maybe. Jason Mewes as Darth Bong, for sure. Snootchie bootchie!
> which would imply that Luke would ultimately turn to the dark side > (presumably after training Lea).
Anyone who's actually met a real, live female would know it's gotta be Leia who would turn out to be a Sith. Men are from Mars, Women are Evil, ya know.:)
Also, to anyone who thinks the published books represent what Lucas would do with the series really doesn't get it. Lucas doesn't care about the books - only the movies are 'canon' in the Star Wars universe. Well, that and the money they bring in for Lucas.
I'm waiting for Google to open up gmail with POP3/IMAP/SMTP access before I really get into using it much.
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"Lemme SHOWYASOMETHIN'!
Let's say, kids, that you're in space, doing all those amaaaaaazing astronaut duties, like, say, performing a SOLDERING EXPERIMENT!
There you are, performing your scientific experiments on soldering in space, with SUPERHOTSOLDER! Suddenly, your astronaut compatriot, who had the little spaceman's mexican meal packet, farts REALLY POWERFULLY in your direction, distracting your attention, and the SUPERHOTSOLDER goes right into yours eyes, blinding you for life!
Be careful up there, kids - space is dangerous and full of monsters and SUPERHOTSOLDER!"
See, kids, this is what happens when you reply to a 12 day old message without first reading and understanding the rest of the thread. Take notes - there will be a test later!
I'm just hoping they left in the bit where the Stormtrooper entering the control room where C3PO & R2D2 are at whacks his head coming in. Friggin' hilarious. Or the part where Luke shouts "Carrie!" instead of "Leia!" at the end of Ep IV. Fun stuff like that should definitely be left in. Here's hopin'.
The thing is, I see very _little_ colour calibration going on. Oh sure, everyone agrees that it _should_ be done, but it's rather like producing standard web code - hardly anyone actually _does_ it. The shit I see being produced every day is quite depressing. That's why they're getting away with $10/15/hr employees - they don't really know what they're doing, but it's 'good enough' to pass off. *shrug*
You're talking about a limited application of graphic design. If you're designing something from scratch, you need to have your equipment colour calibrated FIRST. If you're trying to match something else, then yeah, you can work around it. If you want your print output to match your display output you'd best get that equipment calibrated, no matter what you're doing.
Well, the conversation here was headed in the direction of 'get everyone to agree on tab width before you start on a project,' so I'm arguing that if you can get people to agree to a tab width, you _should_ be able to get them agree to go the full distance and make everyone happy. Well, except for those poor emacs-using bastards. I'm amazed that, as feature-rich as that thing is, that the tab handling isn't configurable. *shrug*
Actually, I don't think there should BE a column limitation of any particular size. Just as one would set what indentation display for tabs, so too should they set whatever wrapping (if any) they wish.
It's like Burger King - I want it my way (only I don't want it to taste like ass), and I want others to have it their way, too. With properly-designed software, this shouldn't even be an issue anymore.
Actually, the easiest 'fix' I can think of for MSIE would be for them to release an update that merely includes IE7.css as the default CSS file (read before it reads any site's CSS file). That would fix the vast majority of CSS compliance problems (and PNG, too, if I recall correctly). They also need to pay Dean Edwards a million bucks for this thing, too - not even a rounding error to MS, really.
In the same way that there will BE no peace in the Middle East, there can be no peace between emacs and vi users. Just as I detest all sides in the Middle East conflict, same thing with emacs and vi. The world would be a better place without all involved, really; then the rest of us could just get on with things.
Um, yes. The page you quoted explains the situation adequately, then, DESPITE having the solution, advocates doing the exact wrong thing! Fucking amazing how people just don't get this.
Tabs ARE a character, and should be TREATED as a character (since they ARE). Therefore, the emacs way is fucking idiotic, and the vi way is correct. I've never advocated one over the other for any other reason, until now (I hate the interfaces of both programs, so it didn't matter to me before now; UI-wise, they both suck pretty badly).
By using tabs as a character (which they ARE, by definition), you solve this entire situation. If your editor doesn't treat tabs as a character, it's BROKEN, and should be fixed or replaced.
> there is no way to look at a piece of text and see that there are no spaces
Oh yeah, forgot this bit of nonsense. This is also either a case of not knowing what your text editor can do, or of using a _really_ crappy text editor. Your text editor should have a mode where you can display spaces & such, and you can _very_ easily tell the difference between spaces and tabs.
That this conversation is evening happening is amazing to me - how can so many people not know about the tab issue by now? How are people STILL putting up with crappy text editors in this day and age? Simply amazing.
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...and always will be. :)
If you're the _only_ idiot left that likes IE, you sure do surf a _hell_ of a lot of websites! If _security issues_ were the only problems with IE, I'd be a _much_ happier web developer.
Screw that - he should reprise his role from Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back, in the new Star Wars movies! Oh yeah. And Shannon Elizabeth can take over as Leia. I guess James Van Der Beek can be Luke - nobody really cares there. Piefucker can be C3PO. Kevin Smith as a new Sith, maybe. Jason Mewes as Darth Bong, for sure. Snootchie bootchie!
> which would imply that Luke would ultimately turn to the dark side
:)
> (presumably after training Lea).
Anyone who's actually met a real, live female would know it's gotta be Leia who would turn out to be a Sith. Men are from Mars, Women are Evil, ya know.
Also, to anyone who thinks the published books represent what Lucas would do with the series really doesn't get it. Lucas doesn't care about the books - only the movies are 'canon' in the Star Wars universe. Well, that and the money they bring in for Lucas.
And I don't think Korben Dallas would approve.
I'm waiting for Google to open up gmail with POP3/IMAP/SMTP access before I really get into using it much.
"Lemme SHOWYASOMETHIN'!
Let's say, kids, that you're in space, doing all those amaaaaaazing astronaut duties, like, say, performing a SOLDERING EXPERIMENT!
There you are, performing your scientific experiments on soldering in space, with SUPERHOTSOLDER! Suddenly, your astronaut compatriot, who had the little spaceman's mexican meal packet, farts REALLY POWERFULLY in your direction, distracting your attention, and the SUPERHOTSOLDER goes right into yours eyes, blinding you for life!
Be careful up there, kids - space is dangerous and full of monsters and SUPERHOTSOLDER!"
See, kids, this is what happens when you reply to a 12 day old message without first reading and understanding the rest of the thread. Take notes - there will be a test later!
Okay, for a lot less than those prices, I'll take me a multiprocessor Opteron machine, thankyouverymuch.
I'm just hoping they left in the bit where the Stormtrooper entering the control room where C3PO & R2D2 are at whacks his head coming in. Friggin' hilarious. Or the part where Luke shouts "Carrie!" instead of "Leia!" at the end of Ep IV. Fun stuff like that should definitely be left in. Here's hopin'.
One could argue the world actually benefitted from their greed - it inspired the creation of the vastly superior format, PNG. Thanks, Unisys! :)
The thing is, I see very _little_ colour calibration going on. Oh sure, everyone agrees that it _should_ be done, but it's rather like producing standard web code - hardly anyone actually _does_ it. The shit I see being produced every day is quite depressing. That's why they're getting away with $10/15/hr employees - they don't really know what they're doing, but it's 'good enough' to pass off. *shrug*
You're talking about a limited application of graphic design. If you're designing something from scratch, you need to have your equipment colour calibrated FIRST. If you're trying to match something else, then yeah, you can work around it. If you want your print output to match your display output you'd best get that equipment calibrated, no matter what you're doing.
Okay, you just proved you don't know what a 'calibrated monitor' means. Some advice: when in doubt, keep your mouth shut.
...you still won't have a colour-calibrated monitor unless you're a graphics professional, and probably not even then. :(
> we helped the McMaster University team build "Fireball II."
I don't think 'Fireball' is the greatest thing to be naming a _vehicle_, 'kay?
That's like MS making the official name of Longhorn, 'BSOD.'
Well, the conversation here was headed in the direction of 'get everyone to agree on tab width before you start on a project,' so I'm arguing that if you can get people to agree to a tab width, you _should_ be able to get them agree to go the full distance and make everyone happy. Well, except for those poor emacs-using bastards. I'm amazed that, as feature-rich as that thing is, that the tab handling isn't configurable. *shrug*
Whatever.
Actually, I don't think there should BE a column limitation of any particular size. Just as one would set what indentation display for tabs, so too should they set whatever wrapping (if any) they wish.
It's like Burger King - I want it my way (only I don't want it to taste like ass), and I want others to have it their way, too. With properly-designed software, this shouldn't even be an issue anymore.
> Can any other IT company
See, that's the thing - Microsost isn't an IT company, they're a _marketing_ company. And no, I'm not joking.
Actually, the easiest 'fix' I can think of for MSIE would be for them to release an update that merely includes IE7.css as the default CSS file (read before it reads any site's CSS file). That would fix the vast majority of CSS compliance problems (and PNG, too, if I recall correctly). They also need to pay Dean Edwards a million bucks for this thing, too - not even a rounding error to MS, really.
In the same way that there will BE no peace in the Middle East, there can be no peace between emacs and vi users. Just as I detest all sides in the Middle East conflict, same thing with emacs and vi. The world would be a better place without all involved, really; then the rest of us could just get on with things.
*mostly joking*
One thing I've wondered about - what kind of battery life goes he get? (And what model is it?)
Um, yes. The page you quoted explains the situation adequately, then, DESPITE having the solution, advocates doing the exact wrong thing! Fucking amazing how people just don't get this.
Tabs ARE a character, and should be TREATED as a character (since they ARE). Therefore, the emacs way is fucking idiotic, and the vi way is correct. I've never advocated one over the other for any other reason, until now (I hate the interfaces of both programs, so it didn't matter to me before now; UI-wise, they both suck pretty badly).
By using tabs as a character (which they ARE, by definition), you solve this entire situation. If your editor doesn't treat tabs as a character, it's BROKEN, and should be fixed or replaced.
You've already mentioned Visio works for you - why are you looking for something else? Do you need something that's Linux native?
> there is no way to look at a piece of text and see that there are no spaces
Oh yeah, forgot this bit of nonsense. This is also either a case of not knowing what your text editor can do, or of using a _really_ crappy text editor. Your text editor should have a mode where you can display spaces & such, and you can _very_ easily tell the difference between spaces and tabs.
That this conversation is evening happening is amazing to me - how can so many people not know about the tab issue by now? How are people STILL putting up with crappy text editors in this day and age? Simply amazing.