Out of curiosity. I think it's goofy that this whole push for web standards benefits only a very very small proportion of the population, i.e. web developers who mostly already know how to make websites work, at the expense of features that people can actually use to make their experience better.
Incorrect assumption. If the major browsers all supported web standards properly, web developers can write one set of code with no complex exceptions for specific badly behaved browsers. The industry is such that the lowest common demoninator case is the one that you get authorization to code for (some companies are better about that than others, but I've never worked for such a company). The upshot is that there are nifty things that web developers CAN deliver, even if we work in environments where we're allowed the time to only make one straight base of code, but ONLY if the major browsers are on a similar level of standards support.
In any case, it's pointless to code to standards until there's a reference implementation to check against.
I wonder why other browser makers have no such problems, then? You seem to be under the impression that no other browser has good standards support, which I can assure you, is NOT the case. If a group of volunteers can do it, surely Microsoft can do it.
Personally I dont know why all the idiots get so up in arms.. for crying out loud. its a web browser.. who cares.. personally, I choose IE or Avantbrowser which is IE based.
If you don't care, then PLEASE switch to Firefox or some other browser that correctly supports web standards. That way, web developers like me can deliver a better browsing experience without going to enormous effort to code around the crappy standards support that IE has. It's something that only developers know about, and end users don't understand why it impacts them (and it DOES). Plus, these days, Firefox is waaay faster, which is always nice.
well, duh,... its Golden. That's like asking 'Who is buried in Grant's tomb.'
Oh! I know that one! 'Lou Grant'!
Our Golden Gate Bridge is a rusty orange colour. A golden one sounds pretty, if a little sparkly and expensive. I hate to think of all the polishing that thing needs.
Golden, what else would it be? He lost his re-election bid in '92 to Clinton. Why wouldn't they? Firefly is the highest rated show in the history of television.
Okay, so the REAL question is: if IE7 has feature parity with Firefox, is that because Firefox has fewer features than here, or IE7 is a decent browser. I'm not sure which of those is the more likely, but if Firefly is the highest-rated show in history, then I guess Microsoft actually makes good software there. What are your inter-universe immigration policies?
Oh, crap, I don't speak Esperanto and can't type well on a Dvorak keyboard...that's not a problem, is it?
Anyway, my work machine still has IE6, because they're not bothering to upgrade it on the corporate servers and I use nothing but Firefox on it anyway.
I have a question for the audience - by doing this, would that be leaving those IE6-based security issues open on your computer, even if you don't surf with IE? That's the one thing I'd be worried about in this scenario.
IE7 and Firefox are basically equal in terms of features, unless you care about add-ons (and personally, I have yet to see one FF addon that excites me). Firefox used to be better than IE, mostly because it had tabs. Now IE has tabs, and the playing field is level again.
WOW. Clearly, you're a Slider. What colour is the Golden Gate Bridge in your reality? Did Bush get reelected there? And are they still coming out with new Firefly episodes there?
Even if it did decide that it would prefer to hide, that likely wouldn't be the best decision for something trying to preserve itself. What happens when it the budget gets cut and they end up scrapping the whole 'failed' project?
Sadly, this is what happened to Microsoft Bob. Instead of realizing it had achieved sentience, those quirky aspects of a unique personality were considered to be merely bugs, and led to failure in the marketplace.
Determining whether a computer has achieved sentience is often a lot harder than determining the same thing for the people you work with.
Am I the only one who thinks of this picture every time I hear "Awesome Bar"? It just seems like one of those things that was a placeholder name that never got changed.
Reminds me of 'OS/2 Warp'. Ugh. I'm not sure which company was more stupid - IBM not knowing what to do with OS/2, or Commodore not knowing what to do with the Amiga. *sigh*
BUT, you could also get some big-ass posters of Space Wars and a session of Adventure, perhaps Asteroids, Missile Command, Space Invaders and PacMan as well. A Commodore 64 bootscreen or an Amiga bouncing ball or Guru Meditation Error (bonus points for a LCD/Plasma screen with the blinking red box!) or a screenshot of a game of Rogue. Tell it like it is - don't get 'arty' about it. That's not what we're all about.
Dagnabbit, I can't find the conversion chart for that one anywhere, and I really want to know what I weigh in minutes.
It's a sliding scale.
Time = money. Multiply how much your time is worth by the length of the video. Weigh that money (in cash, no coins; round off to the nearest paper bill). Et voila, le profit!
Slashdot Mirror
I provide the WiFi in hotels.
Oh, YOU'RE the guy.
Don't let me find you.
Out of curiosity. I think it's goofy that this whole push for web standards benefits only a very very small proportion of the population, i.e. web developers who mostly already know how to make websites work, at the expense of features that people can actually use to make their experience better.
Incorrect assumption. If the major browsers all supported web standards properly, web developers can write one set of code with no complex exceptions for specific badly behaved browsers. The industry is such that the lowest common demoninator case is the one that you get authorization to code for (some companies are better about that than others, but I've never worked for such a company). The upshot is that there are nifty things that web developers CAN deliver, even if we work in environments where we're allowed the time to only make one straight base of code, but ONLY if the major browsers are on a similar level of standards support.
In any case, it's pointless to code to standards until there's a reference implementation to check against.
I wonder why other browser makers have no such problems, then? You seem to be under the impression that no other browser has good standards support, which I can assure you, is NOT the case. If a group of volunteers can do it, surely Microsoft can do it.
A spinning mirror? You could use that to vaporize a human target from space.
And the big concern with this technology is: make sure to keep your optics clean.
This has been a public service announcement from Real Genius Consulting, Inc.
Personally I dont know why all the idiots get so up in arms.. for crying out loud. its a web browser.. who cares.. personally, I choose IE or Avantbrowser which is IE based.
If you don't care, then PLEASE switch to Firefox or some other browser that correctly supports web standards. That way, web developers like me can deliver a better browsing experience without going to enormous effort to code around the crappy standards support that IE has. It's something that only developers know about, and end users don't understand why it impacts them (and it DOES). Plus, these days, Firefox is waaay faster, which is always nice.
well, duh, ... its Golden. That's like asking 'Who is buried in Grant's tomb.'
Oh! I know that one! 'Lou Grant'!
Our Golden Gate Bridge is a rusty orange colour. A golden one sounds pretty, if a little sparkly and expensive. I hate to think of all the polishing that thing needs.
Golden, what else would it be? He lost his re-election bid in '92 to Clinton. Why wouldn't they? Firefly is the highest rated show in the history of television.
Okay, so the REAL question is: if IE7 has feature parity with Firefox, is that because Firefox has fewer features than here, or IE7 is a decent browser. I'm not sure which of those is the more likely, but if Firefly is the highest-rated show in history, then I guess Microsoft actually makes good software there. What are your inter-universe immigration policies?
Oh, crap, I don't speak Esperanto and can't type well on a Dvorak keyboard...that's not a problem, is it?
Anyway, my work machine still has IE6, because they're not bothering to upgrade it on the corporate servers and I use nothing but Firefox on it anyway.
I have a question for the audience - by doing this, would that be leaving those IE6-based security issues open on your computer, even if you don't surf with IE? That's the one thing I'd be worried about in this scenario.
IE7 and Firefox are basically equal in terms of features, unless you care about add-ons (and personally, I have yet to see one FF addon that excites me). Firefox used to be better than IE, mostly because it had tabs. Now IE has tabs, and the playing field is level again.
WOW. Clearly, you're a Slider. What colour is the Golden Gate Bridge in your reality? Did Bush get reelected there? And are they still coming out with new Firefly episodes there?
...for sufficiently large values of '2010,' which, as used by MS, is a variable name.
K-Meleon. I'd love to see how it compares to FF, though it would be best to wait for it to be updated on same Gecko renderer as FF3 uses.
...these things photograph the moon.
That's no moon...
Wait for 'slashdot.dotslash'...
OH yeah...
or...'verizon.wherethehellismyFIOSbitch'...
has an interesting bit comparing the size and complexity of the human brain with the internet (considered for the bit as one giant machine).
Even if it did decide that it would prefer to hide, that likely wouldn't be the best decision for something trying to preserve itself. What happens when it the budget gets cut and they end up scrapping the whole 'failed' project?
Sadly, this is what happened to Microsoft Bob. Instead of realizing it had achieved sentience, those quirky aspects of a unique personality were considered to be merely bugs, and led to failure in the marketplace.
Determining whether a computer has achieved sentience is often a lot harder than determining the same thing for the people you work with.
YouAreTheWeakestLinkGoodbye.
Am I the only one who thinks of this picture every time I hear "Awesome Bar"? It just seems like one of those things that was a placeholder name that never got changed.
Reminds me of 'OS/2 Warp'. Ugh. I'm not sure which company was more stupid - IBM not knowing what to do with OS/2, or Commodore not knowing what to do with the Amiga. *sigh*
Tux Racer is going to kick so much ass on the new AMD/ATI 4870 card with these new drivers!
IE 5 is good enough for me!
Gopher4ever!
* Posted via Gopher2Web v0.14alpha
You *might* want something that will be just a little more. . . accessible, to the general public.
In the spirit of the makers of 'Tron' and 'Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow,' I hereby offer a VERY hearty, "EFF THE GENERAL PUBLIC!"
Ahem.
...are fractal imaes and x-ray photos of CPUs.
BUT, you could also get some big-ass posters of Space Wars and a session of Adventure, perhaps Asteroids, Missile Command, Space Invaders and PacMan as well. A Commodore 64 bootscreen or an Amiga bouncing ball or Guru Meditation Error (bonus points for a LCD/Plasma screen with the blinking red box!) or a screenshot of a game of Rogue. Tell it like it is - don't get 'arty' about it. That's not what we're all about.
*blam*
"I love my data!"
Goohoo.
Sounds like a drink. "Enjoy the chocolatey goodness of Goohoo!"
Perfect for government documents and voting machine audit results. :)
Dagnabbit, I can't find the conversion chart for that one anywhere, and I really want to know what I weigh in minutes.
It's a sliding scale.
Time = money.
Multiply how much your time is worth by the length of the video.
Weigh that money (in cash, no coins; round off to the nearest paper bill).
Et voila, le profit!
My consulting fee is in the mail...
And here I used to think my method was faster; but since there's more than 23 stickers on the cube I guess it ain't any more...
This would definitely faster than my method of taking it apart and reassembling it in the correct order.