'My Brother and I' - Professional white collar public school rich bastards* (and the Royal Family**) 'My Brother and me' - Low menial workers in boiler suits and their orange faced bleach blonde bimbo wives (and the BBC).
'My brother and myself' - Daily Mail readers
Seriously though, the correct rule for both American English and English English has already been given in this thread. Just take out the "My brother and" bit and ask yourself whether you would say, "I" or "me". To a first approximation, "My brother and myself" is always wrong.
So what you're saying is that it's possible to *work around* the fact that the Windows filesystem doesn't work the same way as the UNIX. Hardly the same as the original (false) contention that it "has nothing to do with the filesystem". It has everything to do with the filesystem, but you can work around the filesystem problems if you have to.
I don't know about you, but if the "Login successful" screen did the stars shit every time *I* logged into a computer, I would drag the developer into a dark alley and beat him with a crowbar for a couple of hours.
You think you have it bad? At school I have to use Windows workstations and every time I print something a little pop-up appears at the bottom of the screen saying, "Your print job has been sent to the printer". Not an error message, or even a useful warning message - just a totally pointless message saying, "I've done what you asked me to do". Is it a surprising achievement or something? Is the print spooler on Windows so unreliable that actually managing to send something to the printer is something to boast about? Are the printers so crap that getting them to accept a print job is a major event?
If I ever catch up with the programmer responsible, he'll wish I just had him in a dark alley and was beating him with a crowbard.
If I'm to distribute my GPL'd app, you better believe it absolutely has to include the source code.
Not true. The requirement is merely that the source should be available (read the licence itself if you want to know the exact terms). You do not have to ship the app complete with source code.
And, if anyone wants to use it for their own purposes, their works have to be covered by the same license.
Again, not true - and dangerously close to the lies which Microsoft tells about the GPL's viral nature. *Use* of the software is quite unrestricted. The circumstance where you have to use the same licence is if you want to *re-distribute* the code. All the GPL says is that if you want to pass the code on to someone else then you have to give them the same rights which you received with the code.
There's an awful lot of FUD put about by those wanting to malign the GPL for their own profit - let's not add to it.
Not all backups are straight disk copies, but it's broken logic to conclude that therefore all disc copies are not backups.
It's perfectly reasonable to use straight disk copies as part of a backup strategy. If your strategy consists of just one target disc then it's not a good backup strategy, but it's still a backup.
Are there any people in financial institutions that can comment (anonymously) on this?
I'm happy to comment on it without being anonymous. I designed and oversaw the implementation of the LSE feeds (to and from) for the stockbroking part of a large UK high street bank which shall be NatW^H^Hmeless. If you tried to implement the internals using floating point arithmetic it would be pretty much impossible to get it to pass the LSE's conformance tests, which all assume you will use integer arithmetic and explicit rounding according to their rules.
Friends of mine went off to work "In The City", when I quizzed them about their use of numbers for stock prices etc they were equally dismayed that things were being passed around as doubles.
I'd be not only dismayed but very surprised to find anything which interfaces to the London Stock Exchange passing stock prices around as doubles, or as any other kind of floating point number.
The LSE feeds all use 18 digits for values, with the first 10 being implicitly before the decimal point and the remaining eight being after the implicit decimal point. This is very handy because it means all the values can be manipulated using 64 bit integers. The LSE rules also state very precisely how rounding must be handled. If you try to submit a multi-million pound deal and your calculation of the consideration is out by just one penny then the deal will be rejected.
No-one with the slightest clue about how to code would use floating point maths in any kind of financial program, particularly not one where they're working with the LSE.
To me A dongle is something that dangles off your pc.
ISTR a dongle which attached to the parallel port and came with an optional short bit of ribbon cable to stop it sticking out too far at the back of the box. This latter item was naturally known as a "dongle dangle".
Push the wrong buttons (like 'mute' or 'AV3') and they simply call in a TV repairman (or pester a relative) to "fix it".
I used to live next door to an oldish lady who had (for reasons I don't pretend to understand) about 8 VCRs in her living room, along with a slightly larger number of remote controls. I was endlessly getting called in to help her because, "My video doesn't work". Every time I'd find she'd been fiddling with the cables and had muddled up the remotes. I'd wire up just one VCR to her telly, put all the remotes but two (one for the telly and one for the working VCR) in a drawer and leave her with it all working, asking her not to attempt to re-configure it. And a few days later I'd get called again.
She always maintained that she didn't fiddle until it stopped working and that all her adjustments were attempts to get it going again.
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The idea of removing a _copy_ of the data is not loss, it is theft.
Taking a copy of someone's data (even without their permission) is not theft. Theft has a very precise definition and the fact that you've only taken a copy means it can't be theft. You'd have to take the owner's only copy (or copy the data and then erase the original) for it to be theft.
This incidentally is why F.A.C.T. and F.A.S.T. are both very badly named.
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'My brother and myself' - Daily Mail readers
Seriously though, the correct rule for both American English and English English has already been given in this thread. Just take out the "My brother and" bit and ask yourself whether you would say, "I" or "me". To a first approximation, "My brother and myself" is always wrong.
So what you're saying is that it's possible to *work around* the fact that the Windows filesystem doesn't work the same way as the UNIX. Hardly the same as the original (false) contention that it "has nothing to do with the filesystem". It has everything to do with the filesystem, but you can work around the filesystem problems if you have to.
John
No, it's "Pieces of seven! Pieces of seven!"
That's a parroty error.
Our school Windows workstations are so screwed down that that isn't an option.
Yes, 37 MPG is pretty feeble.
I get about 400 miles out of my 7 gallon tank. Our big car gets about 700 miles out of its 15 gallon tank.
Perhaps you need to upgrade your engine technology?
You think you have it bad? At school I have to use Windows workstations and every time I print something a little pop-up appears at the bottom of the screen saying, "Your print job has been sent to the printer". Not an error message, or even a useful warning message - just a totally pointless message saying, "I've done what you asked me to do". Is it a surprising achievement or something? Is the print spooler on Windows so unreliable that actually managing to send something to the printer is something to boast about? Are the printers so crap that getting them to accept a print job is a major event?
If I ever catch up with the programmer responsible, he'll wish I just had him in a dark alley and was beating him with a crowbard.
I can remember the days when 8 meg was a lot for a disk, never mind memory.
2.4M removable platters anyone?
Not true. The requirement is merely that the source should be available (read the licence itself if you want to know the exact terms). You do not have to ship the app complete with source code.
Again, not true - and dangerously close to the lies which Microsoft tells about the GPL's viral nature. *Use* of the software is quite unrestricted. The circumstance where you have to use the same licence is if you want to *re-distribute* the code. All the GPL says is that if you want to pass the code on to someone else then you have to give them the same rights which you received with the code.
There's an awful lot of FUD put about by those wanting to malign the GPL for their own profit - let's not add to it.
John
Not all backups are straight disk copies, but it's broken logic to conclude that therefore all disc copies are not backups.
It's perfectly reasonable to use straight disk copies as part of a backup strategy. If your strategy consists of just one target disc then it's not a good backup strategy, but it's still a backup.
I'll take your word for it.
I'm happy to comment on it without being anonymous. I designed and oversaw the implementation of the LSE feeds (to and from) for the stockbroking part of a large UK high street bank which shall be NatW^H^Hmeless. If you tried to implement the internals using floating point arithmetic it would be pretty much impossible to get it to pass the LSE's conformance tests, which all assume you will use integer arithmetic and explicit rounding according to their rules.
I'd be not only dismayed but very surprised to find anything which interfaces to the London Stock Exchange passing stock prices around as doubles, or as any other kind of floating point number.
The LSE feeds all use 18 digits for values, with the first 10 being implicitly before the decimal point and the remaining eight being after the implicit decimal point. This is very handy because it means all the values can be manipulated using 64 bit integers. The LSE rules also state very precisely how rounding must be handled. If you try to submit a multi-million pound deal and your calculation of the consideration is out by just one penny then the deal will be rejected.
No-one with the slightest clue about how to code would use floating point maths in any kind of financial program, particularly not one where they're working with the LSE.
Probably the same way my children do - by leaving them all over the bedroom floor and having them disappear into the vacuum cleaner.
My plastic money now has metal bits in it!
But on the plus side, it would be a great start for building a space elevator.
ISTR a dongle which attached to the parallel port and came with an optional short bit of ribbon cable to stop it sticking out too far at the back of the box. This latter item was naturally known as a "dongle dangle".
I used to live next door to an oldish lady who had (for reasons I don't pretend to understand) about 8 VCRs in her living room, along with a slightly larger number of remote controls. I was endlessly getting called in to help her because, "My video doesn't work". Every time I'd find she'd been fiddling with the cables and had muddled up the remotes. I'd wire up just one VCR to her telly, put all the remotes but two (one for the telly and one for the working VCR) in a drawer and leave her with it all working, asking her not to attempt to re-configure it. And a few days later I'd get called again.
She always maintained that she didn't fiddle until it stopped working and that all her adjustments were attempts to get it going again.
John
Weird. I used ApplixWare for years and found it very similar in style to Word 6, with the big difference that it would run for weeks on end.
I only moved because it seemed to have ceased development and OOo's Word filters are *much* better.
John
Nonsense. Middle-endian dates are pretty much unique to the USA (which despite what some of the inhabitants seem to think is not "most of the world").
Apart from the USA, the rest of the world uses either DD-MM-YYYY or YYYY-MM-DD, both of which are much more sensible than the USA format.
No need to set up your own Apache server - there's one in Tuttle, Oklahoma which you're welcome to load your own content onto.
Q: Is Visual Basic a good beginner's programming language.
A: No.
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Taking a copy of someone's data (even without their permission) is not theft. Theft has a very precise definition and the fact that you've only taken a copy means it can't be theft. You'd have to take the owner's only copy (or copy the data and then erase the original) for it to be theft.
This incidentally is why F.A.C.T. and F.A.S.T. are both very badly named.
Can they do a portable slashdot-proof web server?
"I development clustering software"!?!
I hope that was a typo and not another example of demented verbing.