Why should this case cover something that wasn't an issue in this case?
As for cleanups, it depends on whether or not they're "creative". If the cleaner-uppers are smart, they won't take you to court, so that they won't lose in a case very similar to Bridgeman v. Corel.
You're confused about trademarks: they don't give you exclusive use of the word in all ares of life, only in a particular one. So since spicy ham in a can is unlike unwated email, they'd never be able to stop this usage anyway.
It doesn't matter how reasonable their wish is. Trademarks just don't work like that.
As an example of this overall idea, consider Apple vs. the Beatles company Apple, which had trademarked "Apple". Apple was OK using Apple to describe computers, as long as they didn't do music.
Particularly since most of the hype appears to merely be sour grapes from people who were on the wrong side of a power struggle and are now trying to tear down the project (as opposed to anyone with a valid beef).
Attitudes like this are exactly what's needed to begin the healing process.
I read the news article linked and didn't see any reference to D-Link releasing the source, nor any request by the GPL Violations group for them to do so.
That's more likely a defect in the article than proof that the GPL Violations Group did not explain this to D-Link. After all, the best possible solution is for the product to still exist and the GPL to be followed, by releasing the source.
But, if you really want to know, why don't you ask the GPL Violations Group instead of speculating on Slashdot?
Now you do have a good point -- the tools that people use should generate accessible pages. So we'll blame the "professionals" who created those tools, but also the people who bought them without ever thinking about accessibility.
What scares *me* is knee-jerk reactions like yours. Do you realize that the ADA limits lawsuits so that the owner has to make improvements, but the plaintif can't get damages? All the lawsuit is is a way to force property owners to comply with the law.
And in this case it's working exact like it was designed.
And any web designer who didn't do it the right way has only themselves to blame, because the ADA was passed in 1990.
Apparently you haven't read carefully about this case. Yes, testing is dangerous, and the subjects were informed about that. But it's 100x more dangerous when the testers are not following common sense protocols -- the first patient was showing symptoms of a huge problem before they injected some of the later patients.
And yes, it is reasonable that if an experimental drug destroys your life, the tester is liable for your destroyed life. This isn't the Victoria era, where people worked in unsafe factories, but it was OK because the workers knew they were unsafe factories.
This is why we need a civil court system. I hope the company gets reamed. They deserve it.
On the otherhand, I was very unimpressed with certain issues concerning lack of professionalism in the lecture.
Congratulations, you are NOT qualified to be a Google employee. In some industries, wearing particular clothes is not the definition of professionalism. Google is in such an industry.
Er, he deserves the credit for writing the bill which created a new IP-based interconnection network which was called the "Internet". Before that the interconnection was the DARPAnet.
It was only later that the term "Internet" became a generic term.
At the time, I remember thinking it was cool that a Congress-critter actually gave a damn about networking. But I had no doubt that slackers such as yourself would find some way to abuse him for it.
It's true that a majority of Americans are too stupid to do tech support, yet that doesn't mean that American tech support must suck. Calling me an overzealous apologist won't get around the fact that that you're an over-generalizing idiot.
By the way, why are you calling English a foreign language for Indians? For many, it's their *native* language, what they speak at home. India's a big country with a lot of people; there are 10s of millions of them for which this is true.
If I was thinking about buying Indian call-center support, I'd make sure that I paid to get good accents. If a company doesn't pay to get the right level of service, they deserve to be laughed at. But the entire concept of buying call center support from India should not be discarded because some Indians have poor accents.
Ah. I never realized that ALL 3rd world people didn't speak English with a comprehensible accent. I guess your Mom's example really proves it.
You know, I've been to Ghana, and I met quite a few people with excellent English accents. But I must have been dreaming. Ditto for all the Indians I've met who learned English, with a British accent, at home. Yeah, I must have been smoking something.
I used to think that certifications might be somewhat useful, but then I had to rescue a gaggle of Certified Types who had misconfigured an ethernet network... breaking the 3-4-5 rule, which was actually directly part of their certification training.
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Why should this case cover something that wasn't an issue in this case?
As for cleanups, it depends on whether or not they're "creative". If the cleaner-uppers are smart, they won't take you to court, so that they won't lose in a case very similar to Bridgeman v. Corel.
Bridgeman v. Corel
Um, there's still a big market for Fortran compilers... and F2003 has lots of "modern" features, so it's not really living in the past.
Merely launching fuel & water into orbit cheaply would be an incredible cost-saver for any travel beyond low earth orbit.
Er, funny, articles I read about global warming DO discuss these questions.
You're confused about trademarks: they don't give you exclusive use of the word in all ares of life, only in a particular one. So since spicy ham in a can is unlike unwated email, they'd never be able to stop this usage anyway.
It doesn't matter how reasonable their wish is. Trademarks just don't work like that.
As an example of this overall idea, consider Apple vs. the Beatles company Apple, which had trademarked "Apple". Apple was OK using Apple to describe computers, as long as they didn't do music.
We're all safer from terrorism when the government knows I ask for vegetarian meals.
Attitudes like this are exactly what's needed to begin the healing process.
-- greg
Good thing we don't make Beowulf Clusters out of laptops, or then I could say...
That's more likely a defect in the article than proof that the GPL Violations Group did not explain this to D-Link. After all, the best possible solution is for the product to still exist and the GPL to be followed, by releasing the source.
But, if you really want to know, why don't you ask the GPL Violations Group instead of speculating on Slashdot?
My Dell laptop is so old that it isn't subject to the recall, but Virgin's ban is for all Dell laptops.
Ah well.
We were talking about target.com, in this case.
Now you do have a good point -- the tools that people use should generate accessible pages. So we'll blame the "professionals" who created those tools, but also the people who bought them without ever thinking about accessibility.
What scares *me* is knee-jerk reactions like yours. Do you realize that the ADA limits lawsuits so that the owner has to make improvements, but the plaintif can't get damages? All the lawsuit is is a way to force property owners to comply with the law.
And in this case it's working exact like it was designed.
And any web designer who didn't do it the right way has only themselves to blame, because the ADA was passed in 1990.
Hint: customers in Japan do not spend big at Christmas. The Playstation 2 was released in March in Japan, and in October in the US.
Apparently you haven't read carefully about this case. Yes, testing is dangerous, and the subjects were informed about that. But it's 100x more dangerous when the testers are not following common sense protocols -- the first patient was showing symptoms of a huge problem before they injected some of the later patients.
And yes, it is reasonable that if an experimental drug destroys your life, the tester is liable for your destroyed life. This isn't the Victoria era, where people worked in unsafe factories, but it was OK because the workers knew they were unsafe factories.
This is why we need a civil court system. I hope the company gets reamed. They deserve it.
-- greg
Er, all the computers on the Top500 run parallelized code.
Typically, they use libraries (not built-in language features) to do it.
And it's not done using multi-threading.
What isn't that common yet is consumer apps that are parallelized. Scientific apps got there a decade ago.
Congratulations, you are NOT qualified to be a Google employee. In some industries, wearing particular clothes is not the definition of professionalism. Google is in such an industry.
You want a job in accounting. Or at EDS.
Er, he deserves the credit for writing the bill which created a new IP-based interconnection network which was called the "Internet". Before that the interconnection was the DARPAnet.
It was only later that the term "Internet" became a generic term.
At the time, I remember thinking it was cool that a Congress-critter actually gave a damn about networking. But I had no doubt that slackers such as yourself would find some way to abuse him for it.
Fortunately, you opened your mouth and removed all doubt.
I track more than 2,000 play by mail and play by email games in my pbm list.
It's true that a majority of Americans are too stupid to do tech support, yet that doesn't mean that American tech support must suck. Calling me an overzealous apologist won't get around the fact that that you're an over-generalizing idiot.
By the way, why are you calling English a foreign language for Indians? For many, it's their *native* language, what they speak at home.
India's a big country with a lot of people; there are 10s of millions of them for which this is true.
If I was thinking about buying Indian call-center support, I'd make sure that I paid to get good accents. If a company doesn't pay to get the right level of service, they deserve to be laughed at.
But the entire concept of buying call center support from India should not be discarded because some Indians have poor accents.
Ah. I never realized that ALL 3rd world people didn't speak English with a comprehensible accent. I guess your Mom's example really proves it.
You know, I've been to Ghana, and I met quite a few people with excellent English accents. But I must have been dreaming. Ditto for all the Indians I've met who learned English, with a British accent, at home. Yeah, I must have been smoking something.
Thanks for setting me straight.
Oh, never mind.
There's this little standard called "POSIX". A very large number of OSes, including many that aren't Unix, support POSIX. OpenVMS is one example.
I used to think that certifications might be somewhat useful, but then I had to rescue a gaggle of Certified Types who had misconfigured an ethernet network... breaking the 3-4-5 rule, which was actually directly part of their certification training.
Eh? So much for book knowledge...