No it isn't, compared to a proper PBX it's quite cheap. Now you can use totally top-end phones and end up with a huge bill (Cisco 7970's for example at ~ AU$1200ea), but if you buy sensible phones that's not an issue.
>stable SAN connectivity w/ NSPOF Works, if you use the right hardware.
>data and bare-metal backups w/ short time to recover SAN issue? Veritas?
>integration w/ 24x7 monitoring Don't know your monitoring system, but we monitor our own servers and those of many clients 24x7x365.25 without issue, mostly linux (including the boxes doing the monitoring)
>qualified support from multiple vendors (no custom/3rd party drivers or kernel build) Huh? you don't have that with Tru64, you have HP and um well, apologists for HP.
>lights-out management capability Any quality x86 server hardware has this.
>server cloning and deployment Somewhat linked to the previous, and something that's very easy to set up. (We set ours up in ~ 1 day using the new debian installer, no it doesn't go to the level you say, but that's becuase we don't want it to)
>on-line extendable filesystems w/ good performance into the terabyte file system range XFS -- I'd use nothing else even CLOSE to that size.
>cluster filesystem for both data and OS. CXFS($ from SGI) or GFS(GPL)
Huh? Have you never used enterprise manager? I know that at least for v7 and 2000 you can get an SQL dump from it with little hassels.
How useful that is due to all the MS proprietery stuff (datatypes etc) is a different matter, and one that could certainly be handled by an upgrade script.
However this is obviously not the way to handle anything more then a few hundred MB of data, any more and you start having serious issues (and at that size writing a small program to do the migration live would be beneficial anyway.
You know why I don't believe you? Becuase if you really were at a facility with 300-500 creative people (hey, even 100) you'd have at least a half dozen full time programmers supporting various in-house tools. And for them it would be a simple matter to fix any GIMP UI Issues. Why would artists want to continue using PS really: * Plug-Ins, unlikely as in a large facility that kind of stuff is standardised * Laziness, happens a lot among artists and designers * Scared of change, may have had a (fair) bad experience a while ago and not trust that its gotten better.
As others have pointed out the default GIMP keybindings are the same as photoshop, so if GIMP is bad for CTS then so is photoshop. (What do I use, both, but I choose my tool based on the use, these days it's mostly gimp except when editing some graphics that have many flattened elemets that were created using the PS5 anti-aliasing and editing in anything else makes the result look weird)
Sure it's pretty easy on windows, but setting up your first site on linux is also pretty easy, it's here's where apache looks by default, and make the files world readable so they can be read by the apache process. As soon as you go from one site to many on the same box you start to need to understand the reasons behind some of the options, no matter your platform.
And as for patching in linux - because that's all your're doing, WU is not a security fix - apt on my debian boxes (dozens of servers running stable, and a handful on testing) has never had a problem, and if I wanted to I could automate it via cron to remove all manual intervention. On Windows to be reliable I have to use MSBSA as WU does not cover even the most common MS server software (MSBSA misses some as well, but it's good enough for what we run), plus BSA does actually check some security settings unlike WU.
Of course it will happen, whether it's now or later is a different matter. The problem this time is that several of the core kernel devs want to keep 2.6 under active feature development, and doing that in 2.7 means that they don't get nearly as tested.
But it will happen, and probably this year (or early next).
Just tested this, proper 302 http redirects work, but meta redirects apparently donn't, so Don't Do That Then. Use proper 302's or have the page with the meta tag detect SP2 (someone had code posted elsewhere in this story) and display a page with a clicky (and personlly unless there's good reason I prefer to be told that the page has moved and here's a new link then redirected by a meta tag, as it lets me update things like POST FORMS.
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http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/linuxconfau.html
For those who don't know daniel personally.
(and yes that is Linus' autograph in the middle even if it's not as cool as my OpenBSD shirt signed by Linus)
Was a great speaker (and signed a friends Tshirt), had the view of someone between a total geek and Bdale, with enough business experience not to make a fool out of himself, but still enough of a hacker to not be out of place.
Any aussie's who havent been to an LCA before I highly recomend it, the next one is on in April 2005 in Canberra.
For those who haven't heard about Tridge & the samba team's cool patentable stuff (I was at the parents discussion with Tridge), they have some very neat fully automated protocol analysers/parsers/validators that is ahead of its time and is the sort of thing that contracts might soon start to require so if they can get in beforehand it will give them a defense against patent claims.
Who discussed this recently, here's a good best of list:
Blondie: Hanging on the Telephone [A personal favourite that I've used] ELO: Telephone Line
Although there's a number of other interesting possibilities. Such as these on a queue that nobody is really all that bothered about answering:
Annie Lennox: Waiting in Vain Eurythmics: When Tomorrow Comes Moody Blues: Go Now PSB: Saturday Night Forever Pink Floyd: Time Tom Robinson: The Frozen Man Eurythmics: Forever
And as background on the voice menus: Backman-Turner Overdrive: You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet Queen: I Want to Break Free Divine Comedy: The Certainty of Chance B-52's: 6068-842 Tom Robinson: 2-4-6-8 Motorway Queen: I'm going Slightly Mad
Background for annoucements of queue position: Eurythmics: Would I Lie To You? Tom Lehrer: New Math
Finally getting through: Queen: The Miracle
On a premium-rate number, what else?: Pink Floyd: Money
Honourable mentins: Blondie: Call Me ELO: Ma Ma Ma Belle [OK, a tad tenuous]
Others: Annie Lennox: Waiting in Vain Eurythmics: When Tomorrow Comes Moody Blues: Go Now PSB: Saturday Night Forever Pink Floyd: Time Tom Robinson: The Frozen Man Eurythmics: Forever Rolling Stones: Time Is On My Side Tommy Tutone - 867 5309 Kim Wilde - 36580
Sure, when THEY come up with something origional, we'll heckle it in an origional way...
There's the audio miniconf (I'm sitting there now!)
No it isn't, compared to a proper PBX it's quite cheap. Now you can use totally top-end phones and end up with a huge bill (Cisco 7970's for example at ~ AU$1200ea), but if you buy sensible phones that's not an issue.
Hell, get up on top of townsville (there's only one hill...) and you can see that as soon as you leave townsville there's very little out there.
>stable SAN connectivity w/ NSPOF
Works, if you use the right hardware.
>data and bare-metal backups w/ short time to recover
SAN issue? Veritas?
>integration w/ 24x7 monitoring
Don't know your monitoring system, but we monitor our own servers and those of many clients 24x7x365.25 without issue, mostly linux (including the boxes doing the monitoring)
>qualified support from multiple vendors (no custom/3rd party drivers or kernel build)
Huh? you don't have that with Tru64, you have HP and um well, apologists for HP.
>lights-out management capability
Any quality x86 server hardware has this.
>server cloning and deployment
Somewhat linked to the previous, and something that's very easy to set up. (We set ours up in ~ 1 day using the new debian installer, no it doesn't go to the level you say, but that's becuase we don't want it to)
>on-line extendable filesystems w/ good performance into the terabyte file system range
XFS -- I'd use nothing else even CLOSE to that size.
>cluster filesystem for both data and OS.
CXFS($ from SGI) or GFS(GPL)
Ahem.
(And yes this has been my sig for years...)
Wonder if they tried THC.
(Was going to say WTF are you doing at this hour, but you're in Perth)
It's nice, reminds me of the "where am I" from Snow Crash.
Huh?
Have you never used enterprise manager?
I know that at least for v7 and 2000 you can get an SQL dump from it with little hassels.
How useful that is due to all the MS proprietery stuff (datatypes etc) is a different matter, and one that could certainly be handled by an upgrade script.
However this is obviously not the way to handle anything more then a few hundred MB of data, any more and you start having serious issues (and at that size writing a small program to do the migration live would be beneficial anyway.
Would you like me to:
* Notify next of kin
* Laugh maniaclly
* Irritate you until you bleed out
* Actually shut up and get on with fixing you
You know why I don't believe you?
Becuase if you really were at a facility with 300-500 creative people (hey, even 100) you'd have at least a half dozen full time programmers supporting various in-house tools. And for them it would be a simple matter to fix any GIMP UI Issues.
Why would artists want to continue using PS really:
* Plug-Ins, unlikely as in a large facility that kind of stuff is standardised
* Laziness, happens a lot among artists and designers
* Scared of change, may have had a (fair) bad experience a while ago and not trust that its gotten better.
As others have pointed out the default GIMP keybindings are the same as photoshop, so if GIMP is bad for CTS then so is photoshop.
(What do I use, both, but I choose my tool based on the use, these days it's mostly gimp except when editing some graphics that have many flattened elemets that were created using the PS5 anti-aliasing and editing in anything else makes the result look weird)
Sure it's pretty easy on windows, but setting up your first site on linux is also pretty easy, it's here's where apache looks by default, and make the files world readable so they can be read by the apache process. As soon as you go from one site to many on the same box you start to need to understand the reasons behind some of the options, no matter your platform.
And as for patching in linux - because that's all your're doing, WU is not a security fix - apt on my debian boxes (dozens of servers running stable, and a handful on testing) has never had a problem, and if I wanted to I could automate it via cron to remove all manual intervention. On Windows to be reliable I have to use MSBSA as WU does not cover even the most common MS server software (MSBSA misses some as well, but it's good enough for what we run), plus BSA does actually check some security settings unlike WU.
So far pretty great for a first time confrence. The dinner wasn't bad either...
Damian was a great speaker on Perl 6 and has got me (a PHP guy) seriously looking at it for some stuff that's on the to-do list.
Of course it will happen, whether it's now or later is a different matter. The problem this time is that several of the core kernel devs want to keep 2.6 under active feature development, and doing that in 2.7 means that they don't get nearly as tested.
But it will happen, and probably this year (or early next).
I got the "nothing for you to see here" again when trying to look at this story. Is /. really starting to fall under the load after all these years?
Which is why the ones at work are trained not to. Always surprises people...
Just tested this, proper 302 http redirects work, but meta redirects apparently donn't, so Don't Do That Then. Use proper 302's or have the page with the meta tag detect SP2 (someone had code posted elsewhere in this story) and display a page with a clicky (and personlly unless there's good reason I prefer to be told that the page has moved and here's a new link then redirected by a meta tag, as it lets me update things like POST FORMS.
http://www.luv.asn.au/overheads/linuxconfau.html For those who don't know daniel personally. (and yes that is Linus' autograph in the middle even if it's not as cool as my OpenBSD shirt signed by Linus)
Linus would have to be the only person to call HURD big and professional...
Was a great speaker (and signed a friends Tshirt), had the view of someone between a total geek and Bdale, with enough business experience not to make a fool out of himself, but still enough of a hacker to not be out of place.
Any aussie's who havent been to an LCA before I highly recomend it, the next one is on in April 2005 in Canberra.
Forget the underware thing, just make sure you erase the bloody hard drive before selling your laptop off...
For those who haven't heard about Tridge & the samba team's cool patentable stuff (I was at the parents discussion with Tridge), they have some very neat fully automated protocol analysers/parsers/validators that is ahead of its time and is the sort of thing that contracts might soon start to require so if they can get in beforehand it will give them a defense against patent claims.
But seriously, the question is when they go to cut off their third leg will the blade not stop until they can no longer have kids?
Who discussed this recently, here's a good best of list:
Blondie: Hanging on the Telephone [A personal favourite that I've used]
ELO: Telephone Line
Although there's a number of other interesting possibilities. Such as these
on a queue that nobody is really all that bothered about answering:
Annie Lennox: Waiting in Vain
Eurythmics: When Tomorrow Comes
Moody Blues: Go Now
PSB: Saturday Night Forever
Pink Floyd: Time
Tom Robinson: The Frozen Man
Eurythmics: Forever
And as background on the voice menus:
Backman-Turner Overdrive: You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet
Queen: I Want to Break Free
Divine Comedy: The Certainty of Chance
B-52's: 6068-842
Tom Robinson: 2-4-6-8 Motorway
Queen: I'm going Slightly Mad
Background for annoucements of queue position:
Eurythmics: Would I Lie To You?
Tom Lehrer: New Math
Finally getting through:
Queen: The Miracle
On a premium-rate number, what else?:
Pink Floyd: Money
Honourable mentins:
Blondie: Call Me
ELO: Ma Ma Ma Belle [OK, a tad tenuous]
Others:
Annie Lennox: Waiting in Vain
Eurythmics: When Tomorrow Comes
Moody Blues: Go Now
PSB: Saturday Night Forever
Pink Floyd: Time
Tom Robinson: The Frozen Man
Eurythmics: Forever
Rolling Stones: Time Is On My Side
Tommy Tutone - 867 5309
Kim Wilde - 36580
It's bad, and not just for OSS developers. Software patents, a DMCA-alike and more.