actually, that campaign has been going on for a while.. theres been a board like that not too far from my house for about 6-8 months now, and various other ones around the city for at least as long..
Justin
University of the Incarnate Word in San Antonio, TX is in the beginning phases of implementing this right now in conjunction with IBM. We're also part of the IBM Laptop University program, and the wireless cards are given to all the students for free.. So far we have 5 buildings that we can use it at, inside and immediately outside, but by the fall, they're supposed to have the entire campus wired, so to speak..
Actually, they were far from first on the market with CD.. TurboGrafx16 (aka TurboDUO, PCEngine in Japan) beat out the Sega CD by at least a year or 2.. Cant explain how cool it was to see a Y's game with something at least reasonably resembling full-motion video/animation back in the day;)
well, if you had researched into anything about the PS2 games, and being able to download them, you'd know that only maybe 3 games out so far use anything near DVD capacity.. many games have already been ripped for download (albeit some with video and sounds either downsampled or removed), and it works with regular 80-minute cds. Just because it can play dvd games doesnt mean they're all dvd games.
Justin
:::History has proven that just because one is the head of an industry doesn't mean that people will buy blindly into it (except maybe in the case of PS2). MSFT might be the new guy, but it certainly knows games (or has paid enough people to know games for them).
Dont you find that statement a little hypocritical? I mean, isnt that exactaly what MSFT is hoping to do with X-Box? Use the fact that its an industry leader already (not in the same market, mind you), hoping people will buy it instead of the PS2 or Gamecube, because of the Microsoft logo?
Personally, I think Gamecube has a better chance, because a lot of video gamers find one or 2 companies, and stick to them like glue.. (Most the anime freaks here in San Antonio hate Sony, but adore Nintendo and Sega..) If nothing else, you have the people who are Nintendo buffs buying it cuz its Nintendo, kids buying it for Pokemon, and old gamers buying it for nostalgia (new metroid game, how is that not a reach for nostalgia sales?).. Microsoft is going to have to prove itself to the gamers that they can handle a console, and make it successful.. Nintendo wont have that obstacle, because people will know that they'll support it for the length of its life..
:::I'd count Squaresoft as a loss but their quality has dropped miles from their days with Nintendo. FFVII and VIII were laughable at best.
thank god someone on this board agrees with me.. Everytime theres a video game conversation on/., someone mentions rpgs, and someone else says how "FF7 is the greatest rpg ever".. I couldnt bear to play halfway through the first disc.. I got so sick of a buncha pointless fights just to watch a crappy movie.. OTOH, they still do some things right.. Xenogears and Chrono Cross are both incredible games (tho, I always say Chrono Cross would be 5x better on dreamcast, just for jaggedy cleanup), and I've heard FF9 isnt too bad, but 7 and 8 were just lousy..
anyway, off my tangent, I think that Nintendo and Sega will both always survive, because there's always at least a market of gamers with a lot of cash to burn, willing to try anything new, and they're both pretty well known for steady innovation..
Nintendo's using a GD-ROM format, like dreamcast, IIRC.. its only a matter of creating a format on a normal cd that the drive will read, and occasionally scaling down movies/audio to make it fit on the disc.. You think the fact that many games on PS2 are DVD is stopping people from getting them? No, in fact, most the games out for PS2 already are already available for download..
The fact that it uses a proprietary format is just gonna be another obstacle for bored hackers to overcome.. thats whats happened on Dreamcast, thats whats happened on PS2, and thats what will happen with Gamecube.
final fantasy 7 COULD have been developed on a cart console, and, in fact, was initially.. When development for FF7 started, square was still in bed with Nintendo, and they started writing the game for it back when it was just a glimmer in the gaming industry's eye, as the Ultra 64.. They developed it about 1/3 through the game, IIRC, and were planning to release it using the proposed N64 Bulky Drive (think zip drive for a console (I think it later became known as the 64DD before being dropped)).. But at about that point, square thought it'd be too costly to put it on multiple carts or discs like it would have required on the 64, and turned development towards the PSX..
I've got all that information somewhere in all my old Electronic Gaming Monthly issues, if someone wants a reference I could prolly dig it out..
I'm sure GameCube'll at least have a mario game and a pokemon game or 3 (read: same game, different pokemon) at launch, if not a new Zelda or Metroid game.. theres almost always a golf game or some other sports game that noone'll ever play too..;)
Justin
actually, I'm here in SA too, and I was wondering much the same thing.. I live out near fiesta texas, in a neighborhood thats phone lines are all split into half the normal channel, because SWB doesnt wanna drop new copper.. I had to go for cable, but i've been pretty satisfied with it so far.. but anyway, the point is, my street is the san antonio city limit, and we arent known for getting things real fast, so I'm just hoping they're thorough in their configuration..
as was mentioned in the article as well, SanDisk also makes a USB compact-flash reader.. I believe theres a serial or parallel version as well, but mine's USB.. it works quite well.. it ran me $30 for a fairly high speed removable disk solution, as well as unloading my digital camera in an instant..
THe only problem with it is any flash ram over about 16/32mb is extremely overpriced.. fortunately, my camera came with an 8mb one, and an extra 16mb one for purchase..;)
sounds like my 11th grade Java programming class.. I think we looked at any actual information on java once.. the rest of the time was spent playing unreal, tribes, or starcraft..
ahh, those were the days;)
of course, the next year, the network was restricted to the point that all we could play was tetrinet.. but it all worked out;)
well, you're wrong on quite a few of your points..
Turbo Graphix 16 was never a real big success in the states, but in Japan, the PC Engine (same machine, different name) and its cd add-on were one of the best selling/longest running systems of the time.. and the people who did buy it here, had a pretty loyal fanbase to it..
jaguar did have 64 bits, kinda.. it was 4 16 bit processors running parallel;P
Virtual Boy was the worst bomb I can think of, worse than CD-I or 3D0.. I believe, 10 games (and I'm being generous) were released for it before it died.. 3D0 at least had good ports of Super Street Fighter 2 and Samauri Shodown 2 going for it;)
and Neo-Geo's home systems never were very big in the states or elsewhere due to the price ($200+ a game!), but they've been a common sight in video arcades for at least 7, 8 years.. the hardware is still pretty much the same (I believe there was a video upgrade or 2 in there..), but up until they shut their doors just this year, they put out games.. King of Fighters ran up til 1999..
Sega CD did have way too many FMV games, but it also had quite a few good games.. the most notable in my mind was the perfect port of Secret of Monkey Island.. I still dig out my sega cd to play that one;D
If you want a bomb of a system, look for the one NEC put out around '92, I believe it was called the PC-FX, or something like that.. I think they had 3 games out for it that played more like a demo movie.. it did have fairly revolutionary graphics capabilities for its time, and was 32-bit.. came out about a year before saturn or PSX too.. but, it never got support and eventually died..
I'm sure theres some others I'm forgetting, but no system's ever bombed as big as the Virtual Boy did.. only system I've ever seen that one week was selling for $180, and the next was selling for $19.95;)
you know, if you really wanna type faster, all you gotta do is become an irc addict. that ups your wpm by 30-40 or more easily.. I know this, because I'm a recovering addict myself, and have addicted entirely too many friends.. they all say they type much faster since starting..
what about Girl from LA? you know, Kathy Ireland as a geek, gets trapped in another dimension or something like that... and Laserblast is easily one of the best episodes..
Well, thats kinda the other reason that Last Action Hero or Hackers never showed up on mst3k.. They did have to pay royalties to the movie producers, etc.. That got them into a bit of trouble after the first 3 or so seasons if I remember right.. but hey, noone was about to shut down a show that won like 4 straight peabody awards *grin*
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actually, that campaign has been going on for a while.. theres been a board like that not too far from my house for about 6-8 months now, and various other ones around the city for at least as long.. Justin
We're still trying to figure out the last part of the message, sir..
Justin
University of the Incarnate Word in San Antonio, TX is in the beginning phases of implementing this right now in conjunction with IBM. We're also part of the IBM Laptop University program, and the wireless cards are given to all the students for free.. So far we have 5 buildings that we can use it at, inside and immediately outside, but by the fall, they're supposed to have the entire campus wired, so to speak..
Justin
Actually, they were far from first on the market with CD.. TurboGrafx16 (aka TurboDUO, PCEngine in Japan) beat out the Sega CD by at least a year or 2.. Cant explain how cool it was to see a Y's game with something at least reasonably resembling full-motion video/animation back in the day ;)
Justin
well, if you had researched into anything about the PS2 games, and being able to download them, you'd know that only maybe 3 games out so far use anything near DVD capacity.. many games have already been ripped for download (albeit some with video and sounds either downsampled or removed), and it works with regular 80-minute cds. Just because it can play dvd games doesnt mean they're all dvd games. Justin
Yeah, it had nice sound.. too bad the rest of the game was crap..
;)
Ultima XII til I die!
Justin
yeah, everyone knows that they should have only left the scene when Leo died anyway.. I'da paid to watch that 25 times! ;)
Justin
shouldnt that be heroin?
;)
and me, personally, I like meth.. 4 day programming binges... cleanest code in the world, tho
Justin
are you kidding?? This is my hobby! I've been trimming down cds, into the shapes of presidents heads, for years! its great fun!
Seriously tho, the last time I read anything about Gamecube, it said that it was using gd-rom format, like dreamcast.. I guess I was wrong =P
Justin
:::History has proven that just because one is the head of an industry doesn't mean that people will buy blindly into it (except maybe in the case of PS2). MSFT might be the new guy, but it certainly knows games (or has paid enough people to know games for them).
Dont you find that statement a little hypocritical? I mean, isnt that exactaly what MSFT is hoping to do with X-Box? Use the fact that its an industry leader already (not in the same market, mind you), hoping people will buy it instead of the PS2 or Gamecube, because of the Microsoft logo?
Personally, I think Gamecube has a better chance, because a lot of video gamers find one or 2 companies, and stick to them like glue.. (Most the anime freaks here in San Antonio hate Sony, but adore Nintendo and Sega..) If nothing else, you have the people who are Nintendo buffs buying it cuz its Nintendo, kids buying it for Pokemon, and old gamers buying it for nostalgia (new metroid game, how is that not a reach for nostalgia sales?).. Microsoft is going to have to prove itself to the gamers that they can handle a console, and make it successful.. Nintendo wont have that obstacle, because people will know that they'll support it for the length of its life..
Justin
:::I'd count Squaresoft as a loss but their quality has dropped miles from their days with Nintendo. FFVII and VIII were laughable at best.
/., someone mentions rpgs, and someone else says how "FF7 is the greatest rpg ever".. I couldnt bear to play halfway through the first disc.. I got so sick of a buncha pointless fights just to watch a crappy movie.. OTOH, they still do some things right.. Xenogears and Chrono Cross are both incredible games (tho, I always say Chrono Cross would be 5x better on dreamcast, just for jaggedy cleanup), and I've heard FF9 isnt too bad, but 7 and 8 were just lousy..
thank god someone on this board agrees with me.. Everytime theres a video game conversation on
anyway, off my tangent, I think that Nintendo and Sega will both always survive, because there's always at least a market of gamers with a lot of cash to burn, willing to try anything new, and they're both pretty well known for steady innovation..
Justin
Nintendo's using a GD-ROM format, like dreamcast, IIRC.. its only a matter of creating a format on a normal cd that the drive will read, and occasionally scaling down movies/audio to make it fit on the disc.. You think the fact that many games on PS2 are DVD is stopping people from getting them? No, in fact, most the games out for PS2 already are already available for download..
The fact that it uses a proprietary format is just gonna be another obstacle for bored hackers to overcome.. thats whats happened on Dreamcast, thats whats happened on PS2, and thats what will happen with Gamecube.
Justin
final fantasy 7 COULD have been developed on a cart console, and, in fact, was initially.. When development for FF7 started, square was still in bed with Nintendo, and they started writing the game for it back when it was just a glimmer in the gaming industry's eye, as the Ultra 64.. They developed it about 1/3 through the game, IIRC, and were planning to release it using the proposed N64 Bulky Drive (think zip drive for a console (I think it later became known as the 64DD before being dropped)).. But at about that point, square thought it'd be too costly to put it on multiple carts or discs like it would have required on the 64, and turned development towards the PSX..
I've got all that information somewhere in all my old Electronic Gaming Monthly issues, if someone wants a reference I could prolly dig it out..
Justin
I'm sure GameCube'll at least have a mario game and a pokemon game or 3 (read: same game, different pokemon) at launch, if not a new Zelda or Metroid game.. theres almost always a golf game or some other sports game that noone'll ever play too.. ;)
Justin
yeah, well.. maybe he was talking to me.. my name IS Shirley...
no..
wait a minute..
no its not.. nevermind.
Justin
thats checkers, I believe *grin*
Justin
actually, I'm here in SA too, and I was wondering much the same thing.. I live out near fiesta texas, in a neighborhood thats phone lines are all split into half the normal channel, because SWB doesnt wanna drop new copper.. I had to go for cable, but i've been pretty satisfied with it so far.. but anyway, the point is, my street is the san antonio city limit, and we arent known for getting things real fast, so I'm just hoping they're thorough in their configuration..
Justin
as was mentioned in the article as well, SanDisk also makes a USB compact-flash reader.. I believe theres a serial or parallel version as well, but mine's USB.. it works quite well.. it ran me $30 for a fairly high speed removable disk solution, as well as unloading my digital camera in an instant..
;)
THe only problem with it is any flash ram over about 16/32mb is extremely overpriced.. fortunately, my camera came with an 8mb one, and an extra 16mb one for purchase..
Justin
if you had thoroughly read the article, you'd know that this isnt about all of motorola's products, just the Radius line of 2-way radios..
Justin
sounds like my 11th grade Java programming class.. I think we looked at any actual information on java once.. the rest of the time was spent playing unreal, tribes, or starcraft..
;)
;)
ahh, those were the days
of course, the next year, the network was restricted to the point that all we could play was tetrinet.. but it all worked out
well, you're wrong on quite a few of your points.. Turbo Graphix 16 was never a real big success in the states, but in Japan, the PC Engine (same machine, different name) and its cd add-on were one of the best selling/longest running systems of the time.. and the people who did buy it here, had a pretty loyal fanbase to it.. jaguar did have 64 bits, kinda.. it was 4 16 bit processors running parallel ;P
Virtual Boy was the worst bomb I can think of, worse than CD-I or 3D0.. I believe, 10 games (and I'm being generous) were released for it before it died.. 3D0 at least had good ports of Super Street Fighter 2 and Samauri Shodown 2 going for it ;)
and Neo-Geo's home systems never were very big in the states or elsewhere due to the price ($200+ a game!), but they've been a common sight in video arcades for at least 7, 8 years.. the hardware is still pretty much the same (I believe there was a video upgrade or 2 in there..), but up until they shut their doors just this year, they put out games.. King of Fighters ran up til 1999..
Sega CD did have way too many FMV games, but it also had quite a few good games.. the most notable in my mind was the perfect port of Secret of Monkey Island.. I still dig out my sega cd to play that one ;D
If you want a bomb of a system, look for the one NEC put out around '92, I believe it was called the PC-FX, or something like that.. I think they had 3 games out for it that played more like a demo movie.. it did have fairly revolutionary graphics capabilities for its time, and was 32-bit.. came out about a year before saturn or PSX too.. but, it never got support and eventually died..
I'm sure theres some others I'm forgetting, but no system's ever bombed as big as the Virtual Boy did.. only system I've ever seen that one week was selling for $180, and the next was selling for $19.95 ;)
you know, if you really wanna type faster, all you gotta do is become an irc addict. that ups your wpm by 30-40 or more easily.. I know this, because I'm a recovering addict myself, and have addicted entirely too many friends.. they all say they type much faster since starting..
why irc? why not go for a mud/mush? hehe, cuz that way, we could create where we are as we went ;D
Justin
what about Girl from LA? you know, Kathy Ireland as a geek, gets trapped in another dimension or something like that... and Laserblast is easily one of the best episodes..
Justin
"He TRIED to kill me with a forklift.."
Well, thats kinda the other reason that Last Action Hero or Hackers never showed up on mst3k.. They did have to pay royalties to the movie producers, etc.. That got them into a bit of trouble after the first 3 or so seasons if I remember right.. but hey, noone was about to shut down a show that won like 4 straight peabody awards *grin*
Justin
"EEEEGAAAH"