I think you're on the right track with your OEM para: people will only buy it in great numbers when PC World refuses to sell them Windows XP.
I've spoken to a few people (non-geeks, but interested in computers), and the consensus has been that it offers nothing they need, and their current machines will probably run slower with it than they do now.
Personally, I think MS has run out of 'big ideas'. The commoditisation of operating systems has reached tipping point, and people in general will only buy this when they buy their next machine and they effectively have no choice.
You see, the weird thing is, I read that and I can sum it up as follows:
1) Eye Candy 2) Somewhat more secure 3) Improved backup facilities 4) "We unbroke the XP search facility"
"Plus we copied a lot of the features in FireFox and added some DRM, which will help prevent people copying your music/video/porn collection. Including you."
People should understand that all of mathematics is an abstract concept created by humans.
What utter cobblers.
Consider that other animals show the capacity to do maths. Monkeys are surprised when, for example, a box is shown to them containing two apples, then another three apples are put in a box and when the box is opened there are only four in there. They have understanding of addition, subtraction and probably commutation.
A lot of mathematics is stuff the brain (human or animal) has observed about the universe. 2+3=5 in this universe, no matter what you think. The only invention we have put into that is the codification.
...and just when you're creeping up on a bad bug, your phone goes "bep-bep bip-burrrr" and the bug overhears and runs away and you have to chase it. Am I over-stretching the analogy yet?
But it looks like the only option will be music services such as Yahoo! Unlimited that charge me $60 a year to listen to whatever I want.
For me, that'll mean 'Radio'. Free, and ubiquitous.
Try telling someone aged about 16 about the 'digital music services' that're 'streamed everywhere, in real time, capable of being received and decoded by cheap chips built into modern mobile phones'. They get really excited, then you tell them it's called 'rad-ee-oo' and they get pissed off;-)
Whereas getting oil out of the environment is luckily free and non-polluting...?
Ah yes, I remember. Those pumping rigs grow on pumping rig trees, and the great oil-hungry bore-worm provides us with pre-drilled holes in only the right places.
If we could only train enough pelicans, the distribution network would be free too.
(I know you're not actually claiming the above, but it bears observing that the same can be said for oil if the environmental costs are included.)
Not all solder comes with flux in it. The stuff with flux is made for ease-of-use for homebrew/amateur stuff. Sometimes you need more (relative to the solder), sometimes less, depending on what you're doing, and then you use separate flux and pure solder.
"Our military is quite capable of dealing with Iraq, or just about any other nation on earth."
Apologies if your post wasn't meant to sound quite so gung-ho as it does, but...
You do realise that military action is part of the process for making new terrorists, don't you?
If you destroyed Iraq, then there would be an upsurge in terrorism volunteers in other countries. You'd have to move on to destroy Iran... then Syria, maybe Lebanon, sooner or later Egypt and Turkey, and by then I might be thinking the UK, France, Germany, Japan, Australia etc, would have a bit of a downer on the US.
Perhaps military action, which after all usually hurts far more civilians than terrorists, is not the answer? Perhaps it's part of the problem?
Anyway, the Apple solution to buggy software requiring elevated privileges is "you can't run that software" - not very helpful if you need it.
Frankly, if you can't see that 'the Apple solution' is the one and only correct answer to crap software that wants admin level privileges to run, then you are part of the problem.
That feeds in directly to your first point: given that most malware comes in via the browser (or any other software that 'sees out' of the computer in any way, from SMTP daemons to thin clients), allowing excessive privileges (or worse, making IE part of the OS rather than just an app!) causes a substantial part of the overall insecurity of a system.
You appear to be neglecting the down-side of using cement, which is what turns broken up old concrete into new concrete.
Manufacture and use of cement requires large amounts of energy and thus large release of CO2. Some wind turbines, for example, need such large bases that they can only be used on bedrock or the emissions creating them would outweigh the gains in generation.
Slow breakdown of old rubber - which is going to happen somewhere after all - may well be better overall.
The reason they didn't is because all their suits are based on the same evidence: an IP address (which really has file-shared) and the name of the person who pays the account bill.
This case means anyone who shares out their internet access has a defence. Hell, anyone with an insecure wireless net can presumably plead the fifth and walk away.
And given that the 'super massive black hole' at the centre of the galaxy is actually thought to be a multiple system, then this nes suggests that the entities at the centre of our galaxy do snowballs. Ewww.
I think that's as far as we can take this. I hope so.
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I think you're on the right track with your OEM para: people will only buy it in great numbers when PC World refuses to sell them Windows XP.
I've spoken to a few people (non-geeks, but interested in computers), and the consensus has been that it offers nothing they need, and their current machines will probably run slower with it than they do now.
Personally, I think MS has run out of 'big ideas'. The commoditisation of operating systems has reached tipping point, and people in general will only buy this when they buy their next machine and they effectively have no choice.
J.
You see, the weird thing is, I read that and I can sum it up as follows:
1) Eye Candy
2) Somewhat more secure
3) Improved backup facilities
4) "We unbroke the XP search facility"
"Plus we copied a lot of the features in FireFox and added some DRM, which will help prevent people copying your music/video/porn collection. Including you."
And this is worth 350 bucks or 200 quid?
Justin.
Well, pyro comes on laptops with Sony batteries, and 'Terra' is being made to work on O/S2.
Ubuntu will probably ship a GUI called 'Quintessence' as soon as they catch on.
J.
www.acronymfinder.com gives "Transportation Security Administration (Department of Homeland Security)".
J.
This thread reminded of the Stooges. You must be Mho.
J.
It's a classic "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong".
The system needs to be made to ensure that a password is changed before operation can begin. Duh.
J.
What utter cobblers.
Consider that other animals show the capacity to do maths. Monkeys are surprised when, for example, a box is shown to them containing two apples, then another three apples are put in a box and when the box is opened there are only four in there. They have understanding of addition, subtraction and probably commutation.
A lot of mathematics is stuff the brain (human or animal) has observed about the universe. 2+3=5 in this universe, no matter what you think. The only invention we have put into that is the codification.
Justin.
(Also a mathematician. And a physicist.)
And this grammar nazism comes from a /.er with a typoed sig?! Good grief.
J.
Showing a fine lack of understanding of the phrase "talk like" there, I see ;-)
(Not talking like a pirate cos it's tomorrow now).
J.
...and just when you're creeping up on a bad bug, your phone goes "bep-bep bip-burrrr" and the bug overhears and runs away and you have to chase it. Am I over-stretching the analogy yet?
I'm in Britain. We have proper radio - local independent or national independent.
As I understood it, vast swathes of the states are covered by local independent radio stations, but I could be thirty years out of date...
J.
For me, that'll mean 'Radio'. Free, and ubiquitous.
Try telling someone aged about 16 about the 'digital music services' that're 'streamed everywhere, in real time, capable of being received and decoded by cheap chips built into modern mobile phones'. They get really excited, then you tell them it's called 'rad-ee-oo' and they get pissed off ;-)
Justin.
Whereas getting oil out of the environment is luckily free and non-polluting...?
Ah yes, I remember. Those pumping rigs grow on pumping rig trees, and the great oil-hungry bore-worm provides us with pre-drilled holes in only the right places.
If we could only train enough pelicans, the distribution network would be free too.
(I know you're not actually claiming the above, but it bears observing that the same can be said for oil if the environmental costs are included.)
Justin.
Not all solder comes with flux in it. The stuff with flux is made for ease-of-use for homebrew/amateur stuff. Sometimes you need more (relative to the solder), sometimes less, depending on what you're doing, and then you use separate flux and pure solder.
Speaking as a Linux nerd, there is only a tiny minority who keep pushing that line... ignore them?
Apologies if your post wasn't meant to sound quite so gung-ho as it does, but...
You do realise that military action is part of the process for making new terrorists, don't you?
If you destroyed Iraq, then there would be an upsurge in terrorism volunteers in other countries. You'd have to move on to destroy Iran... then Syria, maybe Lebanon, sooner or later Egypt and Turkey, and by then I might be thinking the UK, France, Germany, Japan, Australia etc, would have a bit of a downer on the US.
Perhaps military action, which after all usually hurts far more civilians than terrorists, is not the answer? Perhaps it's part of the problem?
Justin.
I'm curious... what are you buying it *for*? I haven't come across a single business intending to buy it until you...?
Frankly, if you can't see that 'the Apple solution' is the one and only correct answer to crap software that wants admin level privileges to run, then you are part of the problem.
That feeds in directly to your first point: given that most malware comes in via the browser (or any other software that 'sees out' of the computer in any way, from SMTP daemons to thin clients), allowing excessive privileges (or worse, making IE part of the OS rather than just an app!) causes a substantial part of the overall insecurity of a system.
Justin.
You appear to be neglecting the down-side of using cement, which is what turns broken up old concrete into new concrete.
Manufacture and use of cement requires large amounts of energy and thus large release of CO2. Some wind turbines, for example, need such large bases that they can only be used on bedrock or the emissions creating them would outweigh the gains in generation.
Slow breakdown of old rubber - which is going to happen somewhere after all - may well be better overall.
Justin.
Make a virtual drive file, call it /dev/frandom and they won't even notice it next to /dev/random and /dev/urandom.
[Thinks, checks bus schedule for routes to Patent Office...]
Justin.
Suitable because human shaped, so able to navigate our environment (better han a 'traditional' short, wide, wheeled 'bot anyway). J.
The reason they didn't is because all their suits are based on the same evidence: an IP address (which really has file-shared) and the name of the person who pays the account bill.
This case means anyone who shares out their internet access has a defence. Hell, anyone with an insecure wireless net can presumably plead the fifth and walk away.
Justin.
And given that the 'super massive black hole' at the centre of the galaxy is actually thought to be a multiple system, then this nes suggests that the entities at the centre of our galaxy do snowballs. Ewww.
I think that's as far as we can take this. I hope so.
J.
"This is not an instruction."
Justin.
I know it's offtopic, but could I just point out the grammatical error in your sig? You should quotate the final 'your', giving:
;-)
"You're an asshole if you spell it as 'your'."
Thanks, I feel better now
Justin.