This would work great for us. Almost all of the towns in our area (teeny tiny mind you, -1000) are either a) flat as a board, b) slope slightly downhill towards the tracks, or c) have a tall water tower and/or a tall grain elevator that's many times higher than any other point in town. This would be a perfect setup IMHO.
How well do the client side of things work? Is it platform independant (ie, does a small wireless modem handles all things wireless and connects to the internal network via Ethernet?)? Mac, Linux, Solaris, PC support?
How do weather conditions affect your setup? The DFW area has a fair amount of humidity (although not nearly as bad as futher south in Texas I'm sure). I've noticed my own wireless networks being noticeably slower during 100% humidity days with extremely high heat. Any trouble there?
When you say $500 SU, you're saying it's $500 per customer, right? Ouch. That's as bad as our AFC equipment and consumer DSL router purchase. That's painful. It would be worth it to the rural customers I'm sure. It won't make a decent replacement for our customers within range of cable/dsl though (see my previous post for a description of our circumstances). Anyhow, thanks for the insight.
I contract with a local ISP that also covers teeny tiny towns, including the one I live in with a whooping 231 people (whoot!). This ISP happens to have a slight advantage over other ISPs (which is probably why there are NO other ISPs in the area). They are the phone company. They are also the cable TV company. They don't incur per-call costs when dumping outbound calls to the RAS onto a fiber trunk to another town. They cover around 15 towns here in Kansas and 3-4 in Nebraska. Now you'd think they'd only offer dialup for an asinine price. Well they do offer dialup and the price could be a little lower. They also offer DSL and cable. They have run long range DSL to a couple houses over 5 miles from the CO via fiber drops to their front door. They are using long range Ethernet in this particular town to reach houses too far from town and the CO for DSL. This small phone company does it all.
I've been chatting with the powers that be in meetings recently about offering wireless for the rural customers. It could be a lot cheaper for than then long range Ethernet, world's cheaper than DSL even across the alley from the CO (AFC equipment is ungodly expensive per port), and even a little cheaper than cable. Cable TV isn't offered in the country so cable internet access also isn't available. They'd use that if they could though since it's so much cheaper than DSL to run. Wireless would be an excellent all around solution though. Even using 802.11g with a couple omni-directional antennas would suffice for the most part.
Keep us informed on what you ultimately do cause I know at least some of us are really interested.
KISS: Keep It Simple Stupid. I submit that a simple, clean, elegant virus could spread faster and farther than the really fancy bastards that try to do everything under the sun. A simple virus that spreads via Outlook and doesn't get fancy with spreading to writeable volumes, doc files, etc could easily spread farther and faster than on that spends asinine amounts of time trying to cover it's tracks and spread via all possible (but much less likely) methods. KISS and you'll go a lot farther IMHO.
I thought it worth pointing out that ClamAV detected Bagel.A yesterday on my own boxes. My viruses.db file hadn't been updated since the 16th either. FYI
See, now why did you have to go and say something like that. You could have made your point without the disgraceful racial slur. No one likes a racist, pal.
There's nothing illegal about it. If they don't want their photo taken, they shouldn't go out in public. They shouldn't stand in/on his property (where here can photograph just about any damned thing he pleases). They might not like you doing it but there's nothing illegal about it. That doesn't mean they won't steal his camera or film. That doesn't mean he'd be doing anything illegal by doing that however.
You have to break it down into terms of money. Green backs, dinero, Franklin's, etc. That's the ONLY thing a suit can relate to. For example you have to show them that switching from GroupWise and NT to Linux on your desktops and servers will save them X in licensing costs, Y in support costs, and Z in pain and suffering. They can only relate to money. Don't stray from that mindset. Everything has to be related to $$. If you can't show how a problem is costing the suits $$ in their fleece-lined suit pockets, they won't give a damn.
Keep it simple. Don't overwhelm them with technical details. If you see their eyes glaze over, you're providing them too much detail. Keep the answers short and concise. Give the suits the summary of the summary of the Cliff Notes for Dummies of the summary on the back of the paperback edition #2. I mean you have to eliminate almost all detail. Make them ask you for more detail BUT don't abuse it with too much detail when you do give them more. This is like the first date. Scratch that. This is you making the phone call that arranges the date. Scratch that. This is the wink that gets you the number to call. You can't give them too much detail or 1) you're scare them away, and 2) they'll already know everything about you (the project) and won't need you anymore. KISS-FSP. Keep It Simple Stupid, For Stupid People.
Don't be afraid to share problems. If you're in a job that you feel you can't share a problem with management then you're in the wrong job. Pack up and move out. Believe me, it's not worth the grief. You shouldn't have to watch your back for the next inbound sharpened object. Grow a set and lay it on the line.
Anyhow, that's my $.02 before taxes. Best of luck.
He should get a good lawyer and get the warrant quashed. Then that lawyer could have the judge demand that all this kid's personal property be returned. If the feds really didn't have grounds for a good warrant (ie they lied to the judge or didn't really meet all the requirements for a warrant) then a good lawyer could get it quashed. IANAL but that's what I'd sure look at doing.
Sure, he could have. They couldn't have done anything about it. He didn't know that though so their statement to the contrary kept him from whipping out is 35mm. It worked for them. Now if his buddies had come over and started rolling film from the sidewalk, the FBI and SS couldn't have prevented it. I'm more fuzzy on what he could do with them in the house. I know he could pick up a camera off the shelf and snap off some pictures and they couldn't stop him. I don't know if they can require him to stay in any old room though. IMHO I think he can go anywhere in the house he wants and long as he doesn't prevent them from fulfilling the warrant. They probably wouldn't like it though if he stood over their shoulders with a voice recorder dictating into it their every move. Best advice is consult a lawyer. Even though something might be your right doesn't mean the feds will let you do it. He could have probably walked out at any time legally but they might have tried to stop him. It may very well have been his right since he wasn't under arrest but that wouldn't necessarily prevent them from making him think he didn't have that right. They wouldn't dare violate that right if his lawyer was there though. IANAL
He could have left at any time. He was never detained in any way (really). If he wanted to use his telephone he could have and they couldn't have stopped him, legally anyways. He would have been wise to have called though. Even if he didn't have a lawyer he could have flipped through a phonebook and picked any old one he found. "Um, yeah, the FBI and SS are here raiding my house. Do you think you could stop by and interpret for me? Thanks."
It might make him an idiot for doing something right that will get him sued but that's doesn't make what he did wrong. Trademark law doesn't prevent a separate entity from using the exact same name for different purposes. For example I could have a garage called Apple Service Station. I could have a meat locker called Microsoft Meats. Neither violate trademark law. Neither example dilutes Microsoft's trademark because there is no way in hell one could be mistaken for the other. This lawsuit, if this kid doesn't turn into a candy-ass and back down, will be dismissed. There is more than enough precident to support the kids arguement.
I've used Finale for years on my Classic MacOS boxes and am very happy to see a new release. It really is a great tool once you learn how to use it (like any tool).
I read somewhere after the lander, um, landed that the pictures it were sending back were flawed. The arguement was that Mars, like Earth, was supposed to have blue skies. I can't say that this is a correct assesment but it seems plausible. I do recall watching C-SPAN last week or the week before when a group was talking about Spirit. One thing they talked about was a simple little 4-color chart that could be used to sync Spirit's camera color settings to once the rover landed. The plate the color chart was on also doubled as a sun dial (low tech at it's best!). Anyhow, I thought the blue sky idea was interesting. Is the red planet really red when you're standing on it's surface?
1) try more than one chemical treatment option. Try Ritalin. If you don't see any positive results after a few months of treatment, ask your doctor to try something else. Treat ADHD as seriously as you would treat cancer, heart disease, or diabetes. ie, seek out the professional help of more than one doctor, even a specialist. Ask to speak with some of their current or past patients (or their families) for their thoughts on the good doctor. You're shopping for a doctor, the effectiveness of their treatment(s), and their willingness to try other treatments. Don't just try one form of chemical treatment or one doctor and call it quits. Keep your options open.
2) Evaluate your daughter's teachers. I have a background in education thanks primarily to my mother being a Title I reading teacher. She brings her work home with her and the whole family is greatly involved in it much of the time. I've also worked for 3 educational institutions, mainly as an IT guy but also as a aide. I can think of numerous teachers that have neither the training nor the patience to work with a ADHD child. Simply put, if my child was diagnosed with ADHD and happened to be in one of their classrooms, I'd have them moved to another teachers room. Failing that I'd pull them from my local school district and drive them to a school district that has staff capable of effectively teaching an ADHD child. You should determine if your daughter's teachers can cope with her disorder. Would the school put her into special ed (very bad idea)? Does the school have any past experience with ADHD children? Is your daughter's class size small enough to get an adequate amount of attention from the teacher or her aides? Does the school have any special programs for students of such disorders than can offer the individualized attention she needs without the negative treatment of being placed in special ed?
You have a long road ahead of you. The good news is you are not alone. The Internet is filled with information about ADHD, the possible treatments, support groups, and much more. Consider looking into the services of institutions that specialize in child care such as Shriners. You may not need their financial assistence but you're sure to benefit from their knowledge. Best of luck to you and your family.
Exactly. MacOS and System 7.x were perfect in my eyes (at least as far as the UI goes). Fancier things could have been added but it worked consistently and exactly as I'd expect. I was clicking buttons before they'd even appear simply because I knew exactly where they'd be.:) If I didn't have all that pre-X background I would be very comfortable with OS X. Hell I've been using OS X's great-grandfather (Rhapsody) since it was first mailed to us in Apple's Developer program. Even at that I'm still not nearly as comfortable with OS X as I was (and still am) with pre-X. My mother though has no trouble whatsoever. She's been using Macs as long as I have but is little more than an advanced user. She's much more confident than most users (which is good and bad;-) ). Even at that though she has no trouble switching back and forth between her 7300/200 running 9 and her eMac running 10.2.8. It's a big problem for me though.
I still support the newbie thought though. I submit that I if I introduced my grandfather (76 years old last week) to both OS X and XP, I predict that he'd find OS X much easier and more intuitive to use. He's a helluva smart guy. He's even a wee bit of a techie of old sorts--farmer, rancher, pilot, gun nut, entreprenuer, heavy equipment god, you name it he can do it. I think he'd do fine with OS X as a newbie.
I agree with your 'it's different so it sucks' thoughts. People are inherently afraid of change. Now I believe myself and all the other old Mac nuts have legit gripes with OS X (Tog for certain does). I do believe a lot of the anti-X sentiment is just due to change. Apple would have done well IMHO if they had preserved more of the traditional Mac UI instead of up and changing every single thing. They had it right (though it was getting dated) with 9. They could have built upon that I think.
Well, I need a century or so of beauty sleep. Thanks for the comments!
Ain't that the truth!:-) Sometimes I wish it really didn't exist. Usually I think that every time I try to scroll up or down in a window that's too close to the hidden dock on the RHS of my screen. ARGH!
No, I'm not referring to something from NeXT. I'm referring to the Dock's predecessor from previous MacOS releases. I'm referring to the Launcher. *puts on flame-retardent long underwear!* Now I know many of you didn't like the Launcher but for me as a diehard Mac guru I found it indespensible. My Launcher was highly organized. It had a dozen categories at a minimum. I ran more than one Launcher on a number of systems (the hack was trivial and the outcome was most useful IMHO). The Launcher was perfect for me. Apple, however, made a change to the Launcher that I never will forgive them for. I'm trying to remember when exactly they made this change. I believe it was with OS 9 or there abouts but I'd have to do some serious reflecting to be certain. Around the time of OS 9 Apple started changing many of their long-time control panels into full-fledged applications. As we all know running applications show up separately under the Application menu, whereas control panels don't show up at all (they are considered part of the Finder process). One of the control panels they changed was the Launcher. This had a very unfortunate and annoying side effect for me. I used to quickly access the Launcher by clicking outside of whatever application I was in and onto the Desktop. All Finder windows (including control panels) popped to the foreground and my Launcher window(s) was readily accessible at the bottom of my screen. When they changed the Launcher from control panel to full-fledged application (with no additional features I might add) clicking on the desktop no longer brought the Launcher window(s) forward. Now this may seem like a very trivial thing to you but to me it was a major pain in the ass. I'd have to go hunting through the Application menu (or the Application window once they introduced that) for the Launcher. I used every trick in the book to squeeze the absolute most out of my Macs. I knew every time-saving key stroke by heart. This change was very annoying to me.
I personally find the Dock to be very annoying. I positioned mine on the right hand side of the screen, shrank it to the smallest possible size, only enabled a tiny amount of magnifcation, and made the dock automatically disappear. That's the only way I can make it somewhat useful. I still find that it's always in my way when I have a couple dozen windows open. I'll mouse over to the right hand side of the screen to scroll up or down in a window only to have the dock popup under my arrow. If I'm not paying attention or moving to fast I may switch to another running application or launch a new instance of an app in my dock. This is annoying as hell. It's almost as annoying as the bastardized Apple menu which now has no function whatsoever. With the Classic Mac OS I fly. I can out work even my G4. With OS X I find I have to hunt and peck around all the little annoyances that I can't get used to.
IMHO OS X is a great OS for a newbie, or at least someone that's not terribly familiar with the ways of the Classic Mac OS. OS X is a royal pain in the ass for a Classic Mac OS guru though.
LOL. Leave it to one of us band geeks to be caught in a photo with an enormous flower. LOL. All we need now is an enormous keg and some growing lights and we'd have a kick ass party. I'm a band geek so I'm allowed to poke fun of my own kind.;-)
I too admin mail systems for dozens of domains. None of the domains I admin will use this and I will blacklist any and all domains that utilize this system. I will not under any circumstances support any non-standards compliant email implementations. I configure my MTAs to flat out reject all non-RFC2822 compliant email messages already. The Internet email community DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER CISCO. Standards are what ties us together. Half-assed and poorly thought out implementations serve no one in the end.
True, as long as you don't plan on following the minimum specified requirements. 8MB yes, 4MB no unless you stripped out all the useless fluff features that few ever used, even us diehards. Our PB520 that shipped with 4 wouldn't boot 7.5 until after a rather costly 12MB upgrade. Actually it was a 16MB upgrade because they didn't make a 12MB upgrade at that time, even though only 12MB could be addressed. Ah the good ole days.:-) PPC 601s made their debute in March and 7.5 in June, unless of course you were an AppleDev. We got it sooner. God I wish I maintained that. Rhapsody was so much fun. *dreamy-eyed*
You mean System ABC install, right?;-) FYI the LC II shipped with System 7.0 and was followed almost instantly by 7.0.1 which was a show-stopping bug fix (minor little thing like disappearing files!). The LC shipped with varying versions of System 6. The LC III shipped with 7.1. The 7.1 series lasted quite some time with no update. The 601 PPCs made their debute with 6100/60, 7100/66, and 8100/80 (delayed) on March 14, 1994 (a day for all to remember!). Contray to extremely popular belief they didn't run 7.5. They shipped with it starting in June of that year but it wasn't installed. They installation disks were just copied to the HD due to the fact that the systems only shipped with 4 or 8MB of RAM and System 7.5 required 12MB. So what was the OS that first ran on the PPC 601 machines? None other than 7.1.2. I don't know if you wanted to know all that but I needed to stretch my brain a little this morning anyways.:-)
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How well do the client side of things work? Is it platform independant (ie, does a small wireless modem handles all things wireless and connects to the internal network via Ethernet?)? Mac, Linux, Solaris, PC support?
How do weather conditions affect your setup? The DFW area has a fair amount of humidity (although not nearly as bad as futher south in Texas I'm sure). I've noticed my own wireless networks being noticeably slower during 100% humidity days with extremely high heat. Any trouble there?
When you say $500 SU, you're saying it's $500 per customer, right? Ouch. That's as bad as our AFC equipment and consumer DSL router purchase. That's painful. It would be worth it to the rural customers I'm sure. It won't make a decent replacement for our customers within range of cable/dsl though (see my previous post for a description of our circumstances). Anyhow, thanks for the insight.
I've been chatting with the powers that be in meetings recently about offering wireless for the rural customers. It could be a lot cheaper for than then long range Ethernet, world's cheaper than DSL even across the alley from the CO (AFC equipment is ungodly expensive per port), and even a little cheaper than cable. Cable TV isn't offered in the country so cable internet access also isn't available. They'd use that if they could though since it's so much cheaper than DSL to run. Wireless would be an excellent all around solution though. Even using 802.11g with a couple omni-directional antennas would suffice for the most part.
Keep us informed on what you ultimately do cause I know at least some of us are really interested.
KISS: Keep It Simple Stupid. I submit that a simple, clean, elegant virus could spread faster and farther than the really fancy bastards that try to do everything under the sun. A simple virus that spreads via Outlook and doesn't get fancy with spreading to writeable volumes, doc files, etc could easily spread farther and faster than on that spends asinine amounts of time trying to cover it's tracks and spread via all possible (but much less likely) methods. KISS and you'll go a lot farther IMHO.
I thought it worth pointing out that ClamAV detected Bagel.A yesterday on my own boxes. My viruses.db file hadn't been updated since the 16th either. FYI
I had this worm yesterday AND Clam AntiVirus (free open-source AV utility that works great with mail servers) already knew about it.
*plonk*
There's nothing illegal about it. If they don't want their photo taken, they shouldn't go out in public. They shouldn't stand in/on his property (where here can photograph just about any damned thing he pleases). They might not like you doing it but there's nothing illegal about it. That doesn't mean they won't steal his camera or film. That doesn't mean he'd be doing anything illegal by doing that however.
Keep it simple. Don't overwhelm them with technical details. If you see their eyes glaze over, you're providing them too much detail. Keep the answers short and concise. Give the suits the summary of the summary of the Cliff Notes for Dummies of the summary on the back of the paperback edition #2. I mean you have to eliminate almost all detail. Make them ask you for more detail BUT don't abuse it with too much detail when you do give them more. This is like the first date. Scratch that. This is you making the phone call that arranges the date. Scratch that. This is the wink that gets you the number to call. You can't give them too much detail or 1) you're scare them away, and 2) they'll already know everything about you (the project) and won't need you anymore. KISS-FSP. Keep It Simple Stupid, For Stupid People.
Don't be afraid to share problems. If you're in a job that you feel you can't share a problem with management then you're in the wrong job. Pack up and move out. Believe me, it's not worth the grief. You shouldn't have to watch your back for the next inbound sharpened object. Grow a set and lay it on the line.
Anyhow, that's my $.02 before taxes. Best of luck.
He should get a good lawyer and get the warrant quashed. Then that lawyer could have the judge demand that all this kid's personal property be returned. If the feds really didn't have grounds for a good warrant (ie they lied to the judge or didn't really meet all the requirements for a warrant) then a good lawyer could get it quashed. IANAL but that's what I'd sure look at doing.
Sure, he could have. They couldn't have done anything about it. He didn't know that though so their statement to the contrary kept him from whipping out is 35mm. It worked for them. Now if his buddies had come over and started rolling film from the sidewalk, the FBI and SS couldn't have prevented it. I'm more fuzzy on what he could do with them in the house. I know he could pick up a camera off the shelf and snap off some pictures and they couldn't stop him. I don't know if they can require him to stay in any old room though. IMHO I think he can go anywhere in the house he wants and long as he doesn't prevent them from fulfilling the warrant. They probably wouldn't like it though if he stood over their shoulders with a voice recorder dictating into it their every move. Best advice is consult a lawyer. Even though something might be your right doesn't mean the feds will let you do it. He could have probably walked out at any time legally but they might have tried to stop him. It may very well have been his right since he wasn't under arrest but that wouldn't necessarily prevent them from making him think he didn't have that right. They wouldn't dare violate that right if his lawyer was there though. IANAL
He could have left at any time. He was never detained in any way (really). If he wanted to use his telephone he could have and they couldn't have stopped him, legally anyways. He would have been wise to have called though. Even if he didn't have a lawyer he could have flipped through a phonebook and picked any old one he found. "Um, yeah, the FBI and SS are here raiding my house. Do you think you could stop by and interpret for me? Thanks."
It might make him an idiot for doing something right that will get him sued but that's doesn't make what he did wrong. Trademark law doesn't prevent a separate entity from using the exact same name for different purposes. For example I could have a garage called Apple Service Station. I could have a meat locker called Microsoft Meats. Neither violate trademark law. Neither example dilutes Microsoft's trademark because there is no way in hell one could be mistaken for the other. This lawsuit, if this kid doesn't turn into a candy-ass and back down, will be dismissed. There is more than enough precident to support the kids arguement.
I've used Finale for years on my Classic MacOS boxes and am very happy to see a new release. It really is a great tool once you learn how to use it (like any tool).
I read somewhere after the lander, um, landed that the pictures it were sending back were flawed. The arguement was that Mars, like Earth, was supposed to have blue skies. I can't say that this is a correct assesment but it seems plausible. I do recall watching C-SPAN last week or the week before when a group was talking about Spirit. One thing they talked about was a simple little 4-color chart that could be used to sync Spirit's camera color settings to once the rover landed. The plate the color chart was on also doubled as a sun dial (low tech at it's best!). Anyhow, I thought the blue sky idea was interesting. Is the red planet really red when you're standing on it's surface?
2) Evaluate your daughter's teachers. I have a background in education thanks primarily to my mother being a Title I reading teacher. She brings her work home with her and the whole family is greatly involved in it much of the time. I've also worked for 3 educational institutions, mainly as an IT guy but also as a aide. I can think of numerous teachers that have neither the training nor the patience to work with a ADHD child. Simply put, if my child was diagnosed with ADHD and happened to be in one of their classrooms, I'd have them moved to another teachers room. Failing that I'd pull them from my local school district and drive them to a school district that has staff capable of effectively teaching an ADHD child. You should determine if your daughter's teachers can cope with her disorder. Would the school put her into special ed (very bad idea)? Does the school have any past experience with ADHD children? Is your daughter's class size small enough to get an adequate amount of attention from the teacher or her aides? Does the school have any special programs for students of such disorders than can offer the individualized attention she needs without the negative treatment of being placed in special ed?
You have a long road ahead of you. The good news is you are not alone. The Internet is filled with information about ADHD, the possible treatments, support groups, and much more. Consider looking into the services of institutions that specialize in child care such as Shriners. You may not need their financial assistence but you're sure to benefit from their knowledge. Best of luck to you and your family.
I still support the newbie thought though. I submit that I if I introduced my grandfather (76 years old last week) to both OS X and XP, I predict that he'd find OS X much easier and more intuitive to use. He's a helluva smart guy. He's even a wee bit of a techie of old sorts--farmer, rancher, pilot, gun nut, entreprenuer, heavy equipment god, you name it he can do it. I think he'd do fine with OS X as a newbie.
I agree with your 'it's different so it sucks' thoughts. People are inherently afraid of change. Now I believe myself and all the other old Mac nuts have legit gripes with OS X (Tog for certain does). I do believe a lot of the anti-X sentiment is just due to change. Apple would have done well IMHO if they had preserved more of the traditional Mac UI instead of up and changing every single thing. They had it right (though it was getting dated) with 9. They could have built upon that I think.
Well, I need a century or so of beauty sleep. Thanks for the comments!
Ain't that the truth! :-) Sometimes I wish it really didn't exist. Usually I think that every time I try to scroll up or down in a window that's too close to the hidden dock on the RHS of my screen. ARGH!
I personally find the Dock to be very annoying. I positioned mine on the right hand side of the screen, shrank it to the smallest possible size, only enabled a tiny amount of magnifcation, and made the dock automatically disappear. That's the only way I can make it somewhat useful. I still find that it's always in my way when I have a couple dozen windows open. I'll mouse over to the right hand side of the screen to scroll up or down in a window only to have the dock popup under my arrow. If I'm not paying attention or moving to fast I may switch to another running application or launch a new instance of an app in my dock. This is annoying as hell. It's almost as annoying as the bastardized Apple menu which now has no function whatsoever. With the Classic Mac OS I fly. I can out work even my G4. With OS X I find I have to hunt and peck around all the little annoyances that I can't get used to.
IMHO OS X is a great OS for a newbie, or at least someone that's not terribly familiar with the ways of the Classic Mac OS. OS X is a royal pain in the ass for a Classic Mac OS guru though.
It's hard to hate something if you don't believe it exists.
Well put. :)
LOL. Leave it to one of us band geeks to be caught in a photo with an enormous flower. LOL. All we need now is an enormous keg and some growing lights and we'd have a kick ass party. I'm a band geek so I'm allowed to poke fun of my own kind. ;-)
I too admin mail systems for dozens of domains. None of the domains I admin will use this and I will blacklist any and all domains that utilize this system. I will not under any circumstances support any non-standards compliant email implementations. I configure my MTAs to flat out reject all non-RFC2822 compliant email messages already. The Internet email community DOES NOT NEED ANOTHER CISCO. Standards are what ties us together. Half-assed and poorly thought out implementations serve no one in the end.
Man, I really feel for that guy. Proof that 5-day old pizza really isn't edible.
True, as long as you don't plan on following the minimum specified requirements. 8MB yes, 4MB no unless you stripped out all the useless fluff features that few ever used, even us diehards. Our PB520 that shipped with 4 wouldn't boot 7.5 until after a rather costly 12MB upgrade. Actually it was a 16MB upgrade because they didn't make a 12MB upgrade at that time, even though only 12MB could be addressed. Ah the good ole days. :-) PPC 601s made their debute in March and 7.5 in June, unless of course you were an AppleDev. We got it sooner. God I wish I maintained that. Rhapsody was so much fun. *dreamy-eyed*
You mean System ABC install, right? ;-) FYI the LC II shipped with System 7.0 and was followed almost instantly by 7.0.1 which was a show-stopping bug fix (minor little thing like disappearing files!). The LC shipped with varying versions of System 6. The LC III shipped with 7.1. The 7.1 series lasted quite some time with no update. The 601 PPCs made their debute with 6100/60, 7100/66, and 8100/80 (delayed) on March 14, 1994 (a day for all to remember!). Contray to extremely popular belief they didn't run 7.5. They shipped with it starting in June of that year but it wasn't installed. They installation disks were just copied to the HD due to the fact that the systems only shipped with 4 or 8MB of RAM and System 7.5 required 12MB. So what was the OS that first ran on the PPC 601 machines? None other than 7.1.2. I don't know if you wanted to know all that but I needed to stretch my brain a little this morning anyways. :-)