...but I'm joining anyways. I think it's very worthwhile to support the distribution makers that make Linux popular and a viable OS option for the average Joe. If we (the geeks that already know about Linux) support things like this now, we can sit back in the future and watch the fruits of our small donations as the popularity of our OS grows. Wow, I sound like a save the children infomercial with Linus sitting on the ground wearing only some tattered shorts with a small penguin on his knee crying! Nevertheless, I'm joining anyways.
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This is a bit of an OT sidenote but I wonder if they'll have an Admiral's Club in space. I was in the one at Dallas/Ft. Worth last April and loved it. It made me want to shell out the $400/year for a membership. I don't travel much though but when I do, it would be worth it!
I'd hate to get overbooked on a space flight. You spend 3 months planning to leave your house and pets (and kids!) alone for a couple weeks and boom!, you find out that you're flight was overbooked 5:1 and you have to take an alternate flight in a year.
Forgot to respond to the *nix underpinnings response. Yeah the tools a pretty much the same. All, well, most of the basics are there. The rest have probably been ported or are packaged up by someone else. The directory structure is very much different. That's part of the problem for me. I have trouble going from one to the next quickly. For example, I consult at a number of different places. Many of these places just want a web server w/ administration. Easy. Of the course of a couple years I've changed my directory structure a bit. When I go from one client's system to the next, I always have to stop and relearn the different structure. It does matter and it's a pain when you think it should be there but it's not and you have to stop and think about what OS you're on. D'oh!
I've got a number of servers that are over 2 years uptime and many more pushing 1.5 years. If a box only does one task, say email or DNS, that box should continue to do it well for years unless their's a hardware failure. Pick a stable kernel and good hardware (ie SCSI) and you should be set. Now you will of course upgrade the daemon many times over the course of that machine's life but unless a major security hole has been found in the OS that you can't work around with a host-based packet filter, you won't have to reboot.
I've got other servers that are much more dynamic and they get rebooted every 6 months or so when I upgrade the kernel. A number of those machines were rebooted back on February 1 when my part of the midwest got hit with a major ice storm and we lost power. It was then discovered that a few machines hadn't been plugged into the "orange" outlets. Whoops!
I could understand rebooting a Windows-based server once a week. I can understand rebooting a *nix server a couple times a year. I can't understand rebooting a *nix server weekly. If it ain't broke, don't break it.:-)
I've seriously thought about Darwin. I just haven't had the time to try it on the machine to donate to the cause. OS X has excellent potential. Another major release (not a 10.1.3 but more like a 10.5 rewrite) and it will be much better I think. By that time many more of the open source tools I use today will recognize OS X as another platform they run on that I'll be able to make the switch much easier. I doubt I'll ever get rid of my true Linux boxes though. This will probably just be a nice replacement for my desktops.
at least not to me. OS X currently can't replace my PPC Linux needs. I need a box that's garunteed to run for long periods of time (2+ years) as a rock solid and stable system. I need to be able to run it headless, without a GUI, or replace/upgrade the GUI to fit my needs or fix it as needed without rebooting. OS X doesn't give me these things (yet).
I'm old school Mac. I've been using them for a long time (not nearly as long as some though). I love the Mac GUI. It's consistent and fits my graphical needs. I love the useability of Linux and the power it affords. Not to brag but I'm a fair admin of redhat-styled Linux boxes. I pride myself on my security while still being usable. I know both very well. That's why I always use a Mac and Linux box in pairs. The Mac is my GUI and that box has 3-4 terms open on the Linux box (or VNC). I integrate both. OS X is neither. I can't call it a Mac OS because it's just so damned funky. They had a great GUI and had to go and change it. For someone just starting out on Macs or not that familar with one, this is probably not a big deal to you. For someone like myself, it's a damned nightmare. The *nix underpinnings really aren't like any *nix I'm used to. Not Solaris, Linux, IRIX, or any of the BSDs I've played around on. It just isn't the same thing. The learning curve for a person in my position is incredibly steep. Now the OS kicks ass, don't get me wrong. It's amazing how good it is for the first (major) release of a completely new OS. I can't wait until the next major revision though. Maybe 10.5 or something similar. They are bound to fix the quirks that hurt most of us. They're bound to make it even better. Maybe then I can justify forcing it on myself. For now I only run it on my network sniffing box. Until it gets better, I'll stick with 9.2.2 and my Linux terms.
I'm almost ready to switch to X. I'm really Really REALLY sick of Nutscrape 4.7.9 taking a big fat dump 5-6 times a day on my classic installation. I'm old school Mac & Linux and X is just too damned funky to please me right off the bat. I think I can force myself to suffer through it until whatever major changes Apple's bound to make to X in the future (too many people are having trouble and this is such a new GUI implementation to not make some major changes soon, maybe 10.5 or something). On X I can't justify using Mozilla. It's lack of decent javascript support is what's holding me back. I have to have that support. The web interface to my Packeteer won't work right without it. I do like Opera. I don't think I've tested the JS support in it yet though. Mozilla developers, if you're listening, fix the JS issues and you've scored at least one more user.
Is that why they spam (or allow the spamming) the shit out of us in the US? They want to convince us to change the history books? Baa ha haa hah haaaaa
I admin multiple servers and would love to block all of China. Personally I've been doing on my own mail spools for years and I've never filtered one piece of mail that wasn't spam. If they ever want out of my blacklists, they are damned sure going to have to earn it.
I found a rope that would work. It's of suitable size and strength. Unfortunately it's wrapped around a music CD case and figure out how it was wrapped around the jewl case, unwrap it, and use it for another purpose would violate the DMCA and the RIAA would crawl up my crack. Hope they like the smell.
...that the cities, counties, states, and nation are just as responsible for my speeding because they built the streets, roads, highways, interstates, and turnpikes.
Better yet, it's like saying that FedEx, UPS, PayPal, eBay, and the USPS are just as responsible for me getting stiffed as the person actually stiffing me.
I had a seller back out on me after I'd already paid. Paypal was supposed to refund the $$ to me but refused. They said there was nothing I could do about it. I told the woman on the phone (after numerous calls) that there sure as hell was something I could do about it. I made the payment with me bank's check card. My bank's check card is a Visa Check Card and it affords all the same protection that any other card carrying the Visa logo carries, including fruad protection. I told her all of that and that I'd simply contest the charge and let Visa sort it out for me. She immediately told me to hold on the line and transfered me elsewhere. A guy quickly answered and was pissed from the word go. He was all but yelling. He spewed out some dribble about how if I contested the charge, their many lawyers on retainer would bring a suit against me and this and that and on and on and on. I laughed at him. Literally. And I told him I was contesting the charges immediately and a few other choice phrases. I contested the charges, my bank account was credited by the bank, and I never heard another peep about it. Screw me? No, screw you paypal.
True but it's a horribly difficult thing to keep up with. I have a very extensive Sendmail access list full of spamming domains and providers' netblocks. I'm up to 4682 entries. That took a helluva lot of time to do. It's not easy by any means. Domains are a dime a dozen nowadays. Spammers buy a couple domains every time they send out a new set of spam. Domains are throw away nowadays. It's almost not worth it. I still do it though. A community effort is greatly needed I think. I use a bunch of DNS blacklists and I contribute back to them with submissions.
I did something better. I don't block them on my servers but I do have a procmail recipe to quarentine mail from, say, hotmail.com that doesn't have a Received line with "hotmail.com" in it. You would be amazed at the sheer amount of spam that it caught. Now mind you this filters out legit mail from someone that sends mail from their ISP with a From: of their hotmail.com account. It blocks ebay and paypal mail of the like manner, with the From and Received not matching up. It did catch a lot of spam though. Someone with more procmail logic that I have could extend that to a scoring method that would work really well. Also, add eudoramail.com to you list.
I also filter message bodies for the common remove sites like autoremoveemail.com and others. That's garunteed to work.
I must say, you're lucky. I've been LARTing spam for years to Asian providers (when I can find valid contact info in the worthless APNIC WHOIS) and I've never gotten a response. For a while I used a fresh spamtrap account to LART the spam to the provider and within days (sometimes hours) it was being spammed too. Until someone proves me wrong, I'll go on thinking that they are all spamming SOBs in Asia.
A good example of when warning or trying to educate an ISP doesn't work is Broadwing.net. Alan Ralsky, one of the fathers of spam, uses them all the damned time. They provide connectivity for spamming operations that abuse open relay, host spamertised sites, and much more. They have been warned by everyone and their dogs. I used to LART them all the time before I finally gave up. I just blacklist their network. At last count that was 3/14s, a/24, and a/28. They can rot in my blacklist of hell for all I care.
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Well at least the moderator's agreed with my saying my post was OT. Schmucks.
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This is a bit of an OT sidenote but I wonder if they'll have an Admiral's Club in space. I was in the one at Dallas/Ft. Worth last April and loved it. It made me want to shell out the $400/year for a membership. I don't travel much though but when I do, it would be worth it!
I'd hate to get overbooked on a space flight. You spend 3 months planning to leave your house and pets (and kids!) alone for a couple weeks and boom!, you find out that you're flight was overbooked 5:1 and you have to take an alternate flight in a year.
Forgot to respond to the *nix underpinnings response. Yeah the tools a pretty much the same. All, well, most of the basics are there. The rest have probably been ported or are packaged up by someone else. The directory structure is very much different. That's part of the problem for me. I have trouble going from one to the next quickly. For example, I consult at a number of different places. Many of these places just want a web server w/ administration. Easy. Of the course of a couple years I've changed my directory structure a bit. When I go from one client's system to the next, I always have to stop and relearn the different structure. It does matter and it's a pain when you think it should be there but it's not and you have to stop and think about what OS you're on. D'oh!
I've got other servers that are much more dynamic and they get rebooted every 6 months or so when I upgrade the kernel. A number of those machines were rebooted back on February 1 when my part of the midwest got hit with a major ice storm and we lost power. It was then discovered that a few machines hadn't been plugged into the "orange" outlets. Whoops!
I could understand rebooting a Windows-based server once a week. I can understand rebooting a *nix server a couple times a year. I can't understand rebooting a *nix server weekly. If it ain't broke, don't break it. :-)
I've seriously thought about Darwin. I just haven't had the time to try it on the machine to donate to the cause. OS X has excellent potential. Another major release (not a 10.1.3 but more like a 10.5 rewrite) and it will be much better I think. By that time many more of the open source tools I use today will recognize OS X as another platform they run on that I'll be able to make the switch much easier. I doubt I'll ever get rid of my true Linux boxes though. This will probably just be a nice replacement for my desktops.
I'm old school Mac. I've been using them for a long time (not nearly as long as some though). I love the Mac GUI. It's consistent and fits my graphical needs. I love the useability of Linux and the power it affords. Not to brag but I'm a fair admin of redhat-styled Linux boxes. I pride myself on my security while still being usable. I know both very well. That's why I always use a Mac and Linux box in pairs. The Mac is my GUI and that box has 3-4 terms open on the Linux box (or VNC). I integrate both. OS X is neither. I can't call it a Mac OS because it's just so damned funky. They had a great GUI and had to go and change it. For someone just starting out on Macs or not that familar with one, this is probably not a big deal to you. For someone like myself, it's a damned nightmare. The *nix underpinnings really aren't like any *nix I'm used to. Not Solaris, Linux, IRIX, or any of the BSDs I've played around on. It just isn't the same thing. The learning curve for a person in my position is incredibly steep. Now the OS kicks ass, don't get me wrong. It's amazing how good it is for the first (major) release of a completely new OS. I can't wait until the next major revision though. Maybe 10.5 or something similar. They are bound to fix the quirks that hurt most of us. They're bound to make it even better. Maybe then I can justify forcing it on myself. For now I only run it on my network sniffing box. Until it gets better, I'll stick with 9.2.2 and my Linux terms.
I'm almost ready to switch to X. I'm really Really REALLY sick of Nutscrape 4.7.9 taking a big fat dump 5-6 times a day on my classic installation. I'm old school Mac & Linux and X is just too damned funky to please me right off the bat. I think I can force myself to suffer through it until whatever major changes Apple's bound to make to X in the future (too many people are having trouble and this is such a new GUI implementation to not make some major changes soon, maybe 10.5 or something). On X I can't justify using Mozilla. It's lack of decent javascript support is what's holding me back. I have to have that support. The web interface to my Packeteer won't work right without it. I do like Opera. I don't think I've tested the JS support in it yet though. Mozilla developers, if you're listening, fix the JS issues and you've scored at least one more user.
Is that why they spam (or allow the spamming) the shit out of us in the US? They want to convince us to change the history books? Baa ha haa hah haaaaa
His right to free speech on the Internet ends at my inbox. Period.
I admin multiple servers and would love to block all of China. Personally I've been doing on my own mail spools for years and I've never filtered one piece of mail that wasn't spam. If they ever want out of my blacklists, they are damned sure going to have to earn it.
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I found a rope that would work. It's of suitable size and strength. Unfortunately it's wrapped around a music CD case and figure out how it was wrapped around the jewl case, unwrap it, and use it for another purpose would violate the DMCA and the RIAA would crawl up my crack. Hope they like the smell.
This guy should work for Apple!
Better yet, it's like saying that FedEx, UPS, PayPal, eBay, and the USPS are just as responsible for me getting stiffed as the person actually stiffing me.
I've been blocking all mail from them for going on 2 years now. I also quarentine all mail with "doubleclick.net" in the body. Works like a champ.
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Spam and ye shall be beheaded.
I had a seller back out on me after I'd already paid. Paypal was supposed to refund the $$ to me but refused. They said there was nothing I could do about it. I told the woman on the phone (after numerous calls) that there sure as hell was something I could do about it. I made the payment with me bank's check card. My bank's check card is a Visa Check Card and it affords all the same protection that any other card carrying the Visa logo carries, including fruad protection. I told her all of that and that I'd simply contest the charge and let Visa sort it out for me. She immediately told me to hold on the line and transfered me elsewhere. A guy quickly answered and was pissed from the word go. He was all but yelling. He spewed out some dribble about how if I contested the charge, their many lawyers on retainer would bring a suit against me and this and that and on and on and on. I laughed at him. Literally. And I told him I was contesting the charges immediately and a few other choice phrases. I contested the charges, my bank account was credited by the bank, and I never heard another peep about it. Screw me? No, screw you paypal.
If knowledge is power, and power is sexy, than how come I'm still single. Spawned lots of debate. ;-)
True but it's a horribly difficult thing to keep up with. I have a very extensive Sendmail access list full of spamming domains and providers' netblocks. I'm up to 4682 entries. That took a helluva lot of time to do. It's not easy by any means. Domains are a dime a dozen nowadays. Spammers buy a couple domains every time they send out a new set of spam. Domains are throw away nowadays. It's almost not worth it. I still do it though. A community effort is greatly needed I think. I use a bunch of DNS blacklists and I contribute back to them with submissions.
I also filter message bodies for the common remove sites like autoremoveemail.com and others. That's garunteed to work.
I must say, you're lucky. I've been LARTing spam for years to Asian providers (when I can find valid contact info in the worthless APNIC WHOIS) and I've never gotten a response. For a while I used a fresh spamtrap account to LART the spam to the provider and within days (sometimes hours) it was being spammed too. Until someone proves me wrong, I'll go on thinking that they are all spamming SOBs in Asia.
A good example of when warning or trying to educate an ISP doesn't work is Broadwing.net. Alan Ralsky, one of the fathers of spam, uses them all the damned time. They provide connectivity for spamming operations that abuse open relay, host spamertised sites, and much more. They have been warned by everyone and their dogs. I used to LART them all the time before I finally gave up. I just blacklist their network. At last count that was 3 /14s, a /24, and a /28. They can rot in my blacklist of hell for all I care.