So, we need some ideas for laws to lobby for that will scare the pants off of these guys. And yet ones that are reasonable and even perhaps wildly beneficial for the actual creative people.
HAHA! Which planet do you live on? Sorry, but the goal of every company is to get as much money out of you as they can. They do that by offering services... not the other way around.
What?
I am trying to give them an idea to help them get that money. So far they keep failing with these things and not getting a whole lot of money from us...
I don't know about you, but as a buyer in the market place, I do my best not to give my business to companies I perceive as trying to rip me off.
For those who don't want to follow the link and check out all my other zuper ztuff...
eReaders and eBooks
Here is an idea for all of the companies trying to get this right.
You need a great reader at a great price. This $400 reader I just heard about from Amazon is not the great price by a long shot. $50 sounds ball park off the top of my head. $100 might be pushing it at today's dollar value for my part of the world.
eBooks should be way less than regular books people.
Have every regular book come with an eBook in a sleeve in the back or have a code printed in it that allows for a free download of the book.
Why this last bit? Best of both worlds for people who like physical books. You get the physical book with all of its advantages, plus you get the eBook with all of the searching, bookmarking, cross referencing possibilities.
Stop thinking about how to milk the people. We are not your cows and goats. Give the people a product that will make things better for them and settle for an honest, decent profit while doing so.
"Don't do that. Jusy boycott the big labels (the ones that support the RIAA). There are still lots if indie labels out there that are consumer friendly."
These days, if you are not using a Free license, and preferably a copyleft one, I don't consider you consumer friendly. Your works are always subject to being bought out and abused. Even if against your will.
Even if I like your stuff, unless I am getting paid, I try my best not to promote you or your stuff unless you are going the Free route. And after all, why should expect to be paid for your efforts but think you can count on mine for free?
Yeah Right! Everyone knows the real reason is...
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The Dying PC Market
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""The PC's role in Japanese homes is diminishing, as its once-awesome monopoly on processing power is encroached by gadgets such as smart phones that act like pocket-size computers, advanced Internet-connected game consoles, digital video recorders with terabytes of memory NEC's annual PC shipments in Japan shrank 6.2 percent to 2.72 million units in 2006, and the trend is continuing into the first quarter of fiscal 2007 with a 14 percent decline from a year earlier. Sony's PC shipments for Japan shrank 10 percent in 2006 from a year earlier."
Yeah, right! Everyone knows the real reason is the increasing spread of illegal online PC sharing/downloading by people habituated to piracy by the illegal sharing of music and video! The real thing we need to fear is when people start downloading food online. When you see that starting to happen, run for the hills!
"Presumably all this means is that Microsoft won't be going after developers, but it may still be going after anyone who makes use of those developers' efforts."
Probably including those same developers but in their role as users and not as developers.
"How would you feel if distribution were prohibited for every open source application that didn't provide and maintain comprehensive, correct documentation on all their interfaces and protocols?"
Simple solution to that problem, in place of said documentation, you can, at your option, provide the source code under a Free license instead. Problem solved.
"You may be interested to hear of the "boat," which is an invention even older than the train!"
Interesting. I seem to remember having heard of those things. I think I may even have been on one or two in my time.
These people have a decent one: http://www.city-discovery.com/bahamas/tour.php?id=1485 and in fact, If I am going from Nassau to Spanish Wells or Harbour Island, I prefer the Bo Hengy to flying. But for a lot of other in country destinations, a small charter is about the best you can do and too much more expensive if you can get enough people together.
As far as international travel via boat, that is very iffy as things stand now. I look for options quite often.
"but gave up on that after we (US taxpayers) were forced to bail them out after 9/11."
One thiong that would help fix wise in these sorts of situations (to my off the top thinking at least) is to give the bail out money to the customers and not to the businesses...
That's not really the point. The point is more who should bear the costs of implementing a country's laws... Entities in other countries? Or entities in the same country? One who may have some influence in getting the laws changed if the costs are too high.
Who do you think should shoulder the burden? And should you choose those in your situation A... should it only apply in cases of copyright law and no other laws?
"If you read their letter, they didn't ask him to shut down, they asked him to filter his IP addresses to prohibit accesses from regions where their copyright is still in force. That seems like a reasonable request to me."
Would it not be more reasonable to ask for the filtering to be done closer to home? Ask ISPs in their jurisdictions where their laws apply to filter his IP addresses.
(Not that I think either is all that reasonable mind you. I am making no claims as to that.)
"Sorry about the rant, but comments like this (and people who mod them up) drive me up the wall! Its amazing how many people simply don't this whole liberty business."
I like the liberty business just fine, but I often find calls for government intervention come in areas where the free market is already distorted.
Does the NFL get and "special" treatments? Lots of other businesses in our supposedly free market seem to.
OK, so here is an idea for the next time someone tries this.
Seed you own torrents for the file. Have an option on the payment site:
I am paying $_____ but I already got the thing from the torrents or I will be doing so to save you bandwidth.
Perhaps an option something like:
My buddies and I got _____ copies with bittorrent and we are paying $______ to cover all of them.
Give people the option of paying without downloading from you if they choose. Give them the option of paying later when traffic dies down. If you are letting them choose a price of $0, what can it hurt?
If anyone decides to use this business plan and it makes them bundles of cash, it would be nice of them to send some honest percentage my way. At least those who are using non-Free copyright licenses for their works...
1. Mount a sting type operation against those guys with the recent hard drive patents. 2. Get huge judgment. 3. Take patents as settlement. 4. Hard drive tax... 4.a. No more hard drives...
"Charging royalties for unwanted intrusions of music is the most absurd damn thing I've ever heard of, and tries to claim economic value where none exists."
Here is an angle to push:
Putting copyrighted, non-Free licensed music in public spaces should be considered pollution. Keep performances of your copyrighted works out of public spaces or license them under Free licenses. Anything else pollutes creators' minds causing them to run the risk of unconscious copyright infringement.
Let's clean up the public spaces. STOP THE POLLUTION NOW!
"I don't like twisting the language to fit anyone's marketing agenda, and the way the FSF use the word free strikes me as doing that, so I tend to avoid it."
I think it is more a function of the English language but to each his own. I tend to use the terms "Free Software" and "Freeware" when I refer to libre and gratis meanings for free. Or I use Free and free with Free being libre and free being gratis. It is confusing, but short of rewriting the language or adopting libre and gratis, what can we do?
"I am talking about software being free in a purely financial sense."
Wanna see how confusing that is?...
Oh, so like you mean free as in free markets... Oh wait!
Slashdot Mirror
Ask them if they think any crime of rape should carry a lesser punishment than any copyright infringement. And if so, which ones and why...
all the best,
drew
"I think that about covers it. Any more that I missed?"
They are good ones, especially the first, but you might want to look at these:
http://zotzbro.blogspot.com/2007/04/some-thoughts-on-copyright-offensive.html
all the best,
drew
So, we need some ideas for laws to lobby for that will scare the pants off of these guys. And yet ones that are reasonable and even perhaps wildly beneficial for the actual creative people.
See for instance some ideas here:
http://zotzbro.blogspot.com/2007/04/some-thoughts-on-copyright-offensive.html
all the best,
drew
HAHA! Which planet do you live on? Sorry, but the goal of every company is to get as much money out of you as they can. They do that by offering services... not the other way around.
What?
I am trying to give them an idea to help them get that money. So far they keep failing with these things and not getting a whole lot of money from us...
I don't know about you, but as a buyer in the market place, I do my best not to give my business to companies I perceive as trying to rip me off.
all the best,
drew
Hey fyngyrz,
your post prompted me to write this in my blog... ~;-)
eReaders and eBooks
http://zotzbro.blogspot.com/2007/11/ereaders-and-ebooks.html
For those who don't want to follow the link and check out all my other zuper ztuff...
eReaders and eBooks
Here is an idea for all of the companies trying to get this right.
You need a great reader at a great price. This $400 reader I just heard about from Amazon is not the great price by a long shot. $50 sounds ball park off the top of my head. $100 might be pushing it at today's dollar value for my part of the world.
eBooks should be way less than regular books people.
Have every regular book come with an eBook in a sleeve in the back or have a code printed in it that allows for a free download of the book.
Why this last bit? Best of both worlds for people who like physical books. You get the physical book with all of its advantages, plus you get the eBook with all of the searching, bookmarking, cross referencing possibilities.
Stop thinking about how to milk the people. We are not your cows and goats. Give the people a product that will make things better for them and settle for an honest, decent profit while doing so.
drew
Check my NaNoWriMo Novel in progress:
http://dangernovel.blogspot.com/
Danger - A Safe Bahamian Novel
Then blame the manufacturers.
And then blame the standards bodies as well.
There needs to be a reliable, automatic, technical way to let people know it is ok tou use your wifi.
People who want to use the only way available, so as things stand, blame the manufacturers for having this as the default as well.
The standards bodies could have forseen this and had a seperate open and not-open broadcast...
all the best,
drew
"Don't do that. Jusy boycott the big labels (the ones that support the RIAA). There are still lots if indie labels out there that are consumer friendly."
These days, if you are not using a Free license, and preferably a copyleft one, I don't consider you consumer friendly. Your works are always subject to being bought out and abused. Even if against your will.
Even if I like your stuff, unless I am getting paid, I try my best not to promote you or your stuff unless you are going the Free route. And after all, why should expect to be paid for your efforts but think you can count on mine for free?
all the best,
drew
I was hinting at more issue specific targeting I think.
all the best,
drew
"I don't think that there is a good reason why it needs to be a felony."
The felony game...
Simple game.
At least if a felony brings a loss of voting rights where you are...
Make it a felony, convict your opposition, now they can't vote you out...
(Not saying it is done... but it sure must tempt some...)
all the best,
drew
http://dangernovel.blogspot.com/
Danger - A Safe Bahamian Novel
""The PC's role in Japanese homes is diminishing, as its once-awesome monopoly on processing power is encroached by gadgets such as smart phones that act like pocket-size computers, advanced Internet-connected game consoles, digital video recorders with terabytes of memory NEC's annual PC shipments in Japan shrank 6.2 percent to 2.72 million units in 2006, and the trend is continuing into the first quarter of fiscal 2007 with a 14 percent decline from a year earlier. Sony's PC shipments for Japan shrank 10 percent in 2006 from a year earlier."
Yeah, right! Everyone knows the real reason is the increasing spread of illegal online PC sharing/downloading by people habituated to piracy by the illegal sharing of music and video! The real thing we need to fear is when people start downloading food online. When you see that starting to happen, run for the hills!
all the best,
drew
http://dangernovel.blogspot.com/
Danger - A Safe Bahamian Novel
Being written for NaNoWriMo 2007
"Presumably all this means is that Microsoft won't be going after developers, but it may still be going after anyone who makes use of those developers' efforts."
Probably including those same developers but in their role as users and not as developers.
Itch scratching and all that.
all the best,
drew
http://openphoto.net/gallery/index.html?user_id=178
Underwater Fun and more...
"How would you feel if distribution were prohibited for every open source application that didn't provide and maintain comprehensive, correct documentation on all their interfaces and protocols?"
Simple solution to that problem, in place of said documentation, you can, at your option, provide the source code under a Free license instead. Problem solved.
all the best,
drew
http://openphoto.net/gallery/index.html?user_id=178
"You may be interested to hear of the "boat," which is an invention even older than the train!"
Interesting. I seem to remember having heard of those things. I think I may even have been on one or two in my time.
These people have a decent one: http://www.city-discovery.com/bahamas/tour.php?id=1485 and in fact, If I am going from Nassau to Spanish Wells or Harbour Island, I prefer the Bo Hengy to flying. But for a lot of other in country destinations, a small charter is about the best you can do and too much more expensive if you can get enough people together.
As far as international travel via boat, that is very iffy as things stand now. I look for options quite often.
all the best,
drew
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=zotzbro&search=Search
Paper planes and UFOs...
"Or howabout more environmentally friendly and fuel efficient modes of transport, ie rail."
Fine with me, but I live in the Bahamas, rail is likely a no go for us...
all the best,
drew
http://code.google.com/p/drradioutils/
Miscellaneous Utilities and Programs for Radio.
"but gave up on that after we (US taxpayers) were forced to bail them out after 9/11."
One thiong that would help fix wise in these sorts of situations (to my off the top thinking at least) is to give the bail out money to the customers and not to the businesses...
Thoughts...???
all the best,
drew
http://openphoto.net/gallery/index.html?user_id=178
"Which would you be more livid about?"
That's not really the point. The point is more who should bear the costs of implementing a country's laws... Entities in other countries? Or entities in the same country? One who may have some influence in getting the laws changed if the costs are too high.
Who do you think should shoulder the burden? And should you choose those in your situation A... should it only apply in cases of copyright law and no other laws?
all the best,
drew
http://openphoto.net/gallery/index.html?user_id=178
"If you read their letter, they didn't ask him to shut down, they asked him to filter his IP addresses to prohibit accesses from regions where their copyright is still in force. That seems like a reasonable request to me."
Would it not be more reasonable to ask for the filtering to be done closer to home? Ask ISPs in their jurisdictions where their laws apply to filter his IP addresses.
(Not that I think either is all that reasonable mind you. I am making no claims as to that.)
all the best,
drew
http://openphoto.net/gallery/index.html?user_id=178
Underwater Fun and more...
"Sorry about the rant, but comments like this (and people who mod them up) drive me up the wall! Its amazing how many people simply don't this whole liberty business."
I like the liberty business just fine, but I often find calls for government intervention come in areas where the free market is already distorted.
Does the NFL get and "special" treatments? Lots of other businesses in our supposedly free market seem to.
all the best,
drew
http://openphoto.net/gallery/index.html?user_id=178
OK, so here is an idea for the next time someone tries this.
Seed you own torrents for the file. Have an option on the payment site:
I am paying $_____ but I already got the thing from the torrents or I will be doing so to save you bandwidth.
Perhaps an option something like:
My buddies and I got _____ copies with bittorrent and we are paying $______ to cover all of them.
Give people the option of paying without downloading from you if they choose. Give them the option of paying later when traffic dies down. If you are letting them choose a price of $0, what can it hurt?
If anyone decides to use this business plan and it makes them bundles of cash, it would be nice of them to send some honest percentage my way. At least those who are using non-Free copyright licenses for their works...
~;-)
all the best,
drew
http://openphoto.net/gallery/index.html?user_id=178
Underwater Fun and more....
1. Mount a sting type operation against those guys with the recent hard drive patents.
2. Get huge judgment.
3. Take patents as settlement.
4. Hard drive tax...
4.a. No more hard drives...
all the best,
drew
I think you are missing the point that it is actually about double dipping. (Or at least not mentioning it directly.)
all the best,
drew
"Charging royalties for unwanted intrusions of music is the most absurd damn thing I've ever heard of, and tries to claim economic value where none exists."
Here is an angle to push:
Putting copyrighted, non-Free licensed music in public spaces should be considered pollution. Keep performances of your copyrighted works out of public spaces or license them under Free licenses. Anything else pollutes creators' minds causing them to run the risk of unconscious copyright infringement.
Let's clean up the public spaces. STOP THE POLLUTION NOW!
~;-)
all the best,
drew
http://rukiddinmez.blogspot.com/
RUKiddinMe?
"Are you joking?"
Of course they were joking.
"And a local affair?"
The humour is in the understatement...
Just in case YOU weren't joking... If you were:
"Surely you must have heard the name Boston Tea Party?"
Isn't that the one that Alice went to in that oddball Greek Tragedy by some greek fellow by the last name of Louis?
all the best,
drew
http://openphoto.net/gallery/index.html?user_id=178
"I don't like twisting the language to fit anyone's marketing agenda, and the way the FSF use the word free strikes me as doing that, so I tend to avoid it."
I think it is more a function of the English language but to each his own. I tend to use the terms "Free Software" and "Freeware" when I refer to libre and gratis meanings for free. Or I use Free and free with Free being libre and free being gratis. It is confusing, but short of rewriting the language or adopting libre and gratis, what can we do?
"I am talking about software being free in a purely financial sense."
Wanna see how confusing that is?...
Oh, so like you mean free as in free markets... Oh wait!
~;-)
all the best,
drew
Can you rewrite your post using Free or Libre and free or gratis where they belong so that what you are getting at will be totally clear.
I think I can guess, but it would be better if you cleared it uptotally.
all the best,
drew