It seems like they're tons out there, why do people keep making more?
Because developers for Mac are doing the same thing as Windows developers.. building dozens of titles that do the same exact thing, hence crushing the argument that "there isn't any software for Mac"
The difference is, in the Windows world there are hundreds of titles for each purpose, 90% of which may be crap. In the Mac universe, you may have only one or two titles for each purpose, but they're usually of very good quality.
Actually it might annoy users if their running iChat suddenly quits. They probably understand that if it says "hit this button to reboot" that they should finish their iChat conversation and then hit the button.
I could be wrong but if iChat is currently running it does not shut it down, because it doesn't affect a running app since its instance is already loaded in RAM and stays there until the user quits it. It only affects the binary that is on the hard drive.
This is how Safari (or any other normal app) is not changed when SoftwareUpdate actually patches it until you quit it and relaunch the app.
Stop trying to justify extremely poor design choices. It could try to HUP the process, and if it goes wrong, ask the user to do a logout or reboot. There's often no need to reboot at all.
It may be poor design to you, but to the majority of users it is no big deal. In fact, it is safer to reboot than to have to script a process hangup which may involve other running applications, which could get messy. Now, the installer does not force you to reboot, it merely puts up a modal dialog that a reboot is required for changes to take affect, which you can dismiss until you feel like returning to it to click "Reboot"... I'm pretty damn sure Apple could easily change the installer to kill -HUP a process, but what if you're currently using it? What if the kernel was patched and requires a reboot, but you're downloading a giant tarball? Wouldn't you rather have the option of rebooting later? If you REALLY don't want to reboot, force quit the installer so it doesn't bother you (or update via command line instead). Who knows, maybe Tiger will allow for HUP'd upgrades. Apple plays it safe by suggesting a reboot for core system item upgrades. It DOES NOT ask for a reboot when a sofwareupdate upgrades stuff like iMovie or XCode, which are self-contained apps that do not have shared libraries or hooks into system files.
Why can't the installer do that for them? #1 It's rude for the OS to just instantly reboot the machine. It just makes a STRONG suggestion to reboot. What if you have unsaved work that you really NEED to finish now? At least the OS is not crippled during the install.
#2 Rather than risking the probability that a process doesn't HUP properly, it's safer for Apple just to reboot the Mac so that simple Mac users will get a proper reset of all processes. Helps avoid customer service issues if a HUP doesn't go correctly. Advanced users can usually avoid a reboot and just restart the process that was affected.
Why is that everyone in the FOSS community always wants EVERYTHING to be a web-based application.
I dunno. Isn't that why Java exists? Write simple db transaction code into a standalone java app using Swing for the UI (develop it with something like NetBeans, XCode) and let each platform's JVM do the rest.
imovie is a joke compared to the stuff you actually buy for a pc
That's why iMovie and iDVD are FREE while you still have to buy the video suite for the PC? Oh yeah, MS MovieMaker is free and guess what, iMovie is rated better by critics. So while we're talking about payware video suites, try to compare Final Cut Pro HD, DVD Studio Pro, Motion, and Shake to stuff on the PC.
I bought a Rev A. iMac, it was my sixth Apple computer. It was also my last.
You get what you pay for. iMacs are meant for grannies who would never upgrade the system.
Unlike you, I bought a tower Mac, which was obviously upgradeable. So years later it still runs great with more than four ATA/133 hard drives, an upgraded AGP video card, CPU 3x faster than the original, optical drive replaced with a DVD-RW/CD-RW from Pioneer. It plays games great, is awesome for DV video and sound editing, and best of all, posts on Slashdot quickly!:)
why bother? real games [sic] dont buy Mac any way since there's merely not enough games on it and the game release of mac edition is much slower than pc edition.
This may have been true years ago, but times have changed.
I find it intriguing that in the book the main character, Rico, is not a blond surfer boy with a butt-chin.. but a filipino from Buenas Aires (how'd he end up there?)... Wow, maybe in the future the Philippines doesn't pull troops out of hotspots at the first sign of terrorism!:)
Yes, but by graduation the non-replaceable battery will surely be toast leaving you with nothing but an overpriced hunk of plastic to go with your overpriced degree.
Huh? Well, trollboy, once the battery's endurance gives out about three or four years from now you can always replace it with one of these, these, or these.
Image a virus that infects Word documents at a large organization that goes unnoticed for a year because it doesn't actually do anything but replicate itself quietly and subtly, and infects any document it can over the course of the year.
I know of a small pharmaceutical company whose product database is kept, and updated to frequently, in a MS Word file of all things. No CVS, no MySQL. A Word file!
The potential disaster there is terrifying, to say the least.
It's only a major threat if you haven't updated your machine. If you are behind in updates, then you should be infected.
Actually, even if you didn't update your Mac and left all the services off (like Apache and SSH) it's completely safe. Simple as that. How can you remotely root a computer with no open ports?
A dialog box would pop up asking for the root password Default installs of OSX ship with the root account disabled, BTW. Of course sudo works.. but if the comp is being used by a non-admin user a "root password dialog popup worm" is useless
Perspective: people are surprised by all the security updates that Apple releases.
Fact: By default, NONE of the exploitable holes are available by DEFAULT out of the box. There are ZERO services running, so no remote vulnerabilities....which is a ton more secure than a Windows PC out of the box (and some linux boxes). The only time the Mac OS X system can be compromised is if the exploitable services are turned on. Most of these are exploits to open-source software such as Apache, OpenSSL, CUPS. Recently, AFS was patched and that isn't even running when you turn on a Mac.
I tried to compile this and it crapped out during make. Here are some of the last few lines before it stopped:
In file included from neti.cpp:38: neti_netof.h:64:1: warning: "IN_BADCLASS" redefined In file included from flows.h:25,
from neti.cpp:35: /usr/include/netinet/in.h:287:1: warning: this is the location of the previous definition neti.cpp: In function `int main()': neti.cpp:469: error: `suseconds_t' undeclared (first use this function) neti.cpp:469: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once for each
function it appears in.) neti.cpp:469: error: parse error before `=' token neti.cpp:650: error: `useconds' undeclared (first use this function) make: *** [neti.o] Error 1
This is why I maintain a Rhapsody subscription at the same time as buying a bunch of music from iTunes. I can listen to streaming music with my Rhapsody subscription
You pay money monthly for that? Hahaha streaming music from iTunes is FREE, plus you can add more stations from the web easily.
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and i'm really happy that WoW is mac playable at launch date.
Simultaneous Mac and PC version launches are nothing new from Blizzard. They know Mac users have tons of spendable cash and like polished software
How about some featured new games for Mac and a [large] partial list of the already available games... not to mention a whole massive list of games from independent companies
It seems like they're tons out there, why do people keep making more?
Because developers for Mac are doing the same thing as Windows developers.. building dozens of titles that do the same exact thing, hence crushing the argument that "there isn't any software for Mac"
The difference is, in the Windows world there are hundreds of titles for each purpose, 90% of which may be crap. In the Mac universe, you may have only one or two titles for each purpose, but they're usually of very good quality.
Personally, I use "reboot".
"shutdown -r now" also works (r stands for reboot). To shut down, use -h (for halt).
Personally i use sudo reboot because I would never login as root for security/safety reasons.
Actually it might annoy users if their running iChat suddenly quits. They probably understand that if it says "hit this button to reboot" that they should finish their iChat conversation and then hit the button.
I could be wrong but if iChat is currently running it does not shut it down, because it doesn't affect a running app since its instance is already loaded in RAM and stays there until the user quits it. It only affects the binary that is on the hard drive.
This is how Safari (or any other normal app) is not changed when SoftwareUpdate actually patches it until you quit it and relaunch the app.
Stop trying to justify extremely poor design choices. It could try to HUP the process, and if it goes wrong, ask the user to do a logout or reboot. There's often no need to reboot at all.
... I'm pretty damn sure Apple could easily change the installer to kill -HUP a process, but what if you're currently using it? What if the kernel was patched and requires a reboot, but you're downloading a giant tarball? Wouldn't you rather have the option of rebooting later? If you REALLY don't want to reboot, force quit the installer so it doesn't bother you (or update via command line instead). Who knows, maybe Tiger will allow for HUP'd upgrades. Apple plays it safe by suggesting a reboot for core system item upgrades. It DOES NOT ask for a reboot when a sofwareupdate upgrades stuff like iMovie or XCode, which are self-contained apps that do not have shared libraries or hooks into system files.
It may be poor design to you, but to the majority of users it is no big deal. In fact, it is safer to reboot than to have to script a process hangup which may involve other running applications, which could get messy. Now, the installer does not force you to reboot, it merely puts up a modal dialog that a reboot is required for changes to take affect, which you can dismiss until you feel like returning to it to click "Reboot"
Why can't the installer do that for them?
#1 It's rude for the OS to just instantly reboot the machine. It just makes a STRONG suggestion to reboot. What if you have unsaved work that you really NEED to finish now? At least the OS is not crippled during the install.
#2 Rather than risking the probability that a process doesn't HUP properly, it's safer for Apple just to reboot the Mac so that simple Mac users will get a proper reset of all processes. Helps avoid customer service issues if a HUP doesn't go correctly. Advanced users can usually avoid a reboot and just restart the process that was affected.
Why is that everyone in the FOSS community always wants EVERYTHING to be a web-based application.
I dunno. Isn't that why Java exists? Write simple db transaction code into a standalone java app using Swing for the UI (develop it with something like NetBeans, XCode) and let each platform's JVM do the rest.
imovie is a joke compared to the stuff you actually buy for a pc
That's why iMovie and iDVD are FREE while you still have to buy the video suite for the PC? Oh yeah, MS MovieMaker is free and guess what, iMovie is rated better by critics. So while we're talking about payware video suites, try to compare Final Cut Pro HD, DVD Studio Pro, Motion, and Shake to stuff on the PC.
I bought a Rev A. iMac, it was my sixth Apple computer. It was also my last.
:)
You get what you pay for. iMacs are meant for grannies who would never upgrade the system.
Unlike you, I bought a tower Mac, which was obviously upgradeable. So years later it still runs great with more than four ATA/133 hard drives, an upgraded AGP video card, CPU 3x faster than the original, optical drive replaced with a DVD-RW/CD-RW from Pioneer. It plays games great, is awesome for DV video and sound editing, and best of all, posts on Slashdot quickly!
why bother? real games [sic] dont buy Mac any way since there's merely not enough games on it and the game release of mac edition is much slower than pc edition.
This may have been true years ago, but times have changed.
http://www.apple.com/games/features/
http://www.macgamefiles.com/
http://www.macgamer.com/
I find it intriguing that in the book the main character, Rico, is not a blond surfer boy with a butt-chin.. but a filipino from Buenas Aires (how'd he end up there?) ... Wow, maybe in the future the Philippines doesn't pull troops out of hotspots at the first sign of terrorism! :)
...do not get along well with most compression utilities.
Apple has not used resource forks for anything since OSX.
Can someone explain to me why a Mac would need such a powerful gaming card?!
So mac users can happily play games like Command & Conquer: Generals, Doom 3, Shrek 2, Battlefield 1942, Delta Force: Black Hawk Down, Space Colony, Unreal Tournament 2004, Warcraft 3, Call of Duty, etc etc...
Yes, but by graduation the non-replaceable battery will surely be toast leaving you with nothing but an overpriced hunk of plastic to go with your overpriced degree.
Huh? Well, trollboy, once the battery's endurance gives out about three or four years from now you can always replace it with one of these, these, or these.
Image a virus that infects Word documents at a large organization that goes unnoticed for a year because it doesn't actually do anything but replicate itself quietly and subtly, and infects any document it can over the course of the year.
I know of a small pharmaceutical company whose product database is kept, and updated to frequently, in a MS Word file of all things. No CVS, no MySQL. A Word file!
The potential disaster there is terrifying, to say the least.
It's only a major threat if you haven't updated your machine. If you are behind in updates, then you should be infected.
Actually, even if you didn't update your Mac and left all the services off (like Apache and SSH) it's completely safe. Simple as that. How can you remotely root a computer with no open ports?
Period. End of story.
1. The AFS daemon runs as root. ...and is OFF by default in all installs. That should cover about 90% of the users...
A dialog box would pop up asking for the root password Default installs of OSX ship with the root account disabled, BTW. Of course sudo works.. but if the comp is being used by a non-admin user a "root password dialog popup worm" is useless
Perspective: people are surprised by all the security updates that Apple releases.
...which is a ton more secure than a Windows PC out of the box (and some linux boxes). The only time the Mac OS X system can be compromised is if the exploitable services are turned on. Most of these are exploits to open-source software such as Apache, OpenSSL, CUPS. Recently, AFS was patched and that isn't even running when you turn on a Mac.
Fact: By default, NONE of the exploitable holes are available by DEFAULT out of the box. There are ZERO services running, so no remote vulnerabilities.
I've run security updates on dozens of Macs over the last two years and have yet to see one break anything. This isn't like Microsoft Windows, y'know
PC=personal computer. Why do Mac people never seem to understand this?
MAC != Macintosh. Why do PC people never seem to understand this?
With regards to the article, what's so wrong with shuffling songs? Does the author imply that people who like variety are idiots?
Maybe the author wears the same underwear every day and eats plain oat bran for breakfast daily.
This is why I maintain a Rhapsody subscription at the same time as buying a bunch of music from iTunes. I can listen to streaming music with my Rhapsody subscription
You pay money monthly for that? Hahaha streaming music from iTunes is FREE, plus you can add more stations from the web easily.