I agree. I wonder how far the shooter would have gotten had the students been armed? The opposite argument could be made on the issue of video games in this case. You have 50 armed nerds who are aces at Counter Strike now facing off with one mad gunman.;-)
"What bothers me is that there seems to be a definite trend to try and move away from Microsoft controlled solutions to ones either controlled or assisted by Google."
You raise a good point and I agree. I was just directly addressing the idea of Google/Thunderbird being an Exchange replacement that the poster seemed to be inferring.
"One such example is the latest mashup between Thunderbird and Google Calendars [CC], providing bi-directional syncing of calendar information from both the client and internet. How long will it be before open-source software can provide a complete, accessible office suite for a fraction of the cost that Microsoft current impose?"
When Google builds an appliance that can host the apps locally. I am not going to put my companies email on a Google server across the Internet. Google needs to wake up and build an appliance that can be hosted locally within the bounds of a company's perimeter.
I have to disagree. After you purchase Windows then start adding on all of the other necessary software to run a enterprise Windows environment such as Ghost, Backup Exec, Disk keeper etc. and then tell me if it is cheaper than Linux.
I use to be a long time Red Hat user. I used Red Hat, since 4.2 up until version 9. When they went the Fedora route, I switched to Ubuntu and have never looked back since. Ubuntu is how Red Hat use to be before they got greedy. I like Ubuntu much better than Red Hat e.g. package management etc.
"they sell excellent quality Linux laptops, desktops, and servers." Just curious. Have you already purchased systems from them? How did you come to this conclusion?
I hope Ubuntu is an option. First, because it's a stable and easy to install distribution and it just works. I have installed it on a number of platforms and have been very pleased. Its package management system is awesome. I don't have the broken dependency issues I use to have with Fedora/Red Hat.
Second, it has both versions available to the public for free being the Long Term Support release and the more bleeding edge. Unlike Red Hat, Ubuntu is willing to "eat its own dog food." Even on the more bleeding edge releases of Ubuntu I don't get the impression that I am running a broken beta release like I did on Fedora.
Third, if you want to utilize it within the workplace you can sell it to management that there is official support available via Canonical, although there are other means of support as well. In addition it has already gained commercial acknowledgement through vendors such as Sun, IBM, and MySQL etc.
Last, but not least because it's completely free Dell can install it on a system and not have to add the associated cost of a license. Perhaps let the user make a donation for each installation of Ubuntu?
"After 17 years with the company, Jim Allchin retired from Microsoft as of Jan. 30, 2007 - the day on which Microsoft officially released the Windows Vista operating system to consumers." Here's his bio.
"remove a site that happened to archive a list of thousands of MySpace usernames and passwords" Why where these posted on the site? Was this part of disclosure regarding a security issue that MySpace wasn't willing to address?
If Wellington were alive today and was working for Microsoft, when looking at the Novell deal he would be heard stating again, "They came on in the same old way and we stopped them in the same old way."
I have worked with both Dell and HP business class solutions. Dell servers suck. I had RAID fail on me numerous times to include both hot spares failing to merge into an array to address a failed drive. In this instance I had to rebuild the entire volume and restore from tape. With Dell workstations lets talk about the GX270 constant issues with power supplies and capacitors going bad. These are known issues with this model yet Dell insists on a one for one swap for each PC. As soon as one PC is fixed and returned to the floor another one goes bad and we have to request either a motherboard or power supply to be replaced. On the other hand my HP DL series servers are like Maytag washers. I practically forget they are running in my racks. The same goes for HP business class workstations.
If I were average Joe who didn't want to take apart my iPod to replace the battery then yes. It's the only thing I hate about iPod. I am sure they designed it this way to. After all, by the time the battery dies, the mindless consumer will just want the latest iPod that is out.
Boy that's the truth brother! IPTABLE syntax is for those who like to write rule sets in C. pf is definitely the example of how a command line firewall syntax should be done. Easier to read is equal to less chance for mistakes.
I took a Windows 2000 class a few years ago and one other person besides me knew what Netware was. I administered 3.12 and 4.11, so I had a clue, but when the instructor mentioned Netware people were like, "what is Netware?"
How about intellectual property? Spend millions of dollars in the U.S. on research and development and then outsource the manufacturing to China and then wonder why the Chinese develop a very similar product. Duh!
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I agree. I wonder how far the shooter would have gotten had the students been armed? The opposite argument could be made on the issue of video games in this case. You have 50 armed nerds who are aces at Counter Strike now facing off with one mad gunman. ;-)
"What bothers me is that there seems to be a definite trend to try and move away from Microsoft controlled solutions to ones either controlled or assisted by Google."
You raise a good point and I agree. I was just directly addressing the idea of Google/Thunderbird being an Exchange replacement that the poster seemed to be inferring.
"One such example is the latest mashup between Thunderbird and Google Calendars [CC], providing bi-directional syncing of calendar information from both the client and internet. How long will it be before open-source software can provide a complete, accessible office suite for a fraction of the cost that Microsoft current impose?"
When Google builds an appliance that can host the apps locally. I am not going to put my companies email on a Google server across the Internet. Google needs to wake up and build an appliance that can be hosted locally within the bounds of a company's perimeter.
"I used to be in the IT industry, and it is precisely this situation that made me decide to get into another line of work."
So, what do you do now?
I have to disagree. After you purchase Windows then start adding on all of the other necessary software to run a enterprise Windows environment such as Ghost, Backup Exec, Disk keeper etc. and then tell me if it is cheaper than Linux.
"they have a large business unit (including R&D for drivers and several F/OSS applications) purely for Linux." :-)
Where, so I can move there?
ROFL LMAO I am in tears. That is so perfect! :-)
Alan Cox, is that you?
"RHEL is about the server. Fedora, Ubuntu and other are about the desktop."
Not true. Ubuntu 6.06 LTS is great for the server.
I use to be a long time Red Hat user. I used Red Hat, since 4.2 up until version 9. When they went the Fedora route, I switched to Ubuntu and have never looked back since. Ubuntu is how Red Hat use to be before they got greedy. I like Ubuntu much better than Red Hat e.g. package management etc.
"they sell excellent quality Linux laptops, desktops, and servers."
Just curious. Have you already purchased systems from them? How did you come to this conclusion?
Thanks
I hope Ubuntu is an option. First, because it's a stable and easy to install distribution and it just works. I have installed it on a number of platforms and have been very pleased. Its package management system is awesome. I don't have the broken dependency issues I use to have with Fedora/Red Hat.
Second, it has both versions available to the public for free being the Long Term Support release and the more bleeding edge. Unlike Red Hat, Ubuntu is willing to "eat its own dog food." Even on the more bleeding edge releases of Ubuntu I don't get the impression that I am running a broken beta release like I did on Fedora.
Third, if you want to utilize it within the workplace you can sell it to management that there is official support available via Canonical, although there are other means of support as well. In addition it has already gained commercial acknowledgement through vendors such as Sun, IBM, and MySQL etc.
Last, but not least because it's completely free Dell can install it on a system and not have to add the associated cost of a license. Perhaps let the user make a donation for each installation of Ubuntu?
This site practically looks like the Ubuntu site. :-)
"After 17 years with the company, Jim Allchin retired from Microsoft as of Jan. 30, 2007 - the day on which Microsoft officially released the Windows Vista operating system to consumers." Here's his bio.
"remove a site that happened to archive a list of thousands of MySpace usernames and passwords"
Why where these posted on the site? Was this part of disclosure regarding a security issue that MySpace wasn't willing to address?
Professor Stephen W. Falken is that you? If we aren't here will nature start over with the Bees next time?
If Wellington were alive today and was working for Microsoft, when looking at the Novell deal he would be heard stating again, "They came on in the same old way and we stopped them in the same old way."
I have worked with both Dell and HP business class solutions. Dell servers suck. I had RAID fail on me numerous times to include both hot spares failing to merge into an array to address a failed drive. In this instance I had to rebuild the entire volume and restore from tape. With Dell workstations lets talk about the GX270 constant issues with power supplies and capacitors going bad. These are known issues with this model yet Dell insists on a one for one swap for each PC. As soon as one PC is fixed and returned to the floor another one goes bad and we have to request either a motherboard or power supply to be replaced. On the other hand my HP DL series servers are like Maytag washers. I practically forget they are running in my racks. The same goes for HP business class workstations.
If I were average Joe who didn't want to take apart my iPod to replace the battery then yes. It's the only thing I hate about iPod. I am sure they designed it this way to. After all, by the time the battery dies, the mindless consumer will just want the latest iPod that is out.
Thanks for the awesome OpenSSH summary. :-)
My first question will be when is ACS coming out? The release of this product is becoming synonymous with Duke Nukem Forever.
Boy that's the truth brother! IPTABLE syntax is for those who like to write rule sets in C. pf is definitely the example of how a command line firewall syntax should be done. Easier to read is equal to less chance for mistakes.
I took a Windows 2000 class a few years ago and one other person besides me knew what Netware was. I administered 3.12 and 4.11, so I had a clue, but when the instructor mentioned Netware people were like, "what is Netware?"
How about intellectual property? Spend millions of dollars in the U.S. on research and development and then outsource the manufacturing to China and then wonder why the Chinese develop a very similar product. Duh!
No, can I? I know that sounds like a stupid question, but IANAL.