Market clearing price to watch a movie – once, or 100 times by streaming – is lower than the cost to own it on Blu-Ray or DVD.
Studios may try to raise that price – temporarily – by not releasing the movie to Netflix streaming. But eventually they will, after disc sales fall off.
If you're going to play the everything is relative card, $3600 is still not very affordable today – 40 years later – when haters are still complaining about Apple's "overpriced" iMacs and Mac Pros at $2K and $3K and up. Or – at the other end of the spectrum – when you can buy a Raspberry Pi for under $30.
Compared to a $50K TI or HP mini back then, yeah, $3600 might seem more affordable. Certainly for businesses that could justify the cost and write it off on their taxes as an expense. If your parents were willing to pop $4K for you to have one – well lucky you. Not all of us weren't so lucky. For a kid who made $25 a month mowing lawns or delivering newspapers, $4K might as well have been $4M. And there were a lot of kids who didn't have a paper route or a lawn mowing job.
My brother and I did burn through hundreds of dollars on a TSO system writing some software that in retrospect was incredibly silly. But it was hundreds of dollars, not thousands of dollars. And we learned a lot, so it was money well spent really. All in all that "expensive" TSO was much more affordable than buying an Apple ][. (And BTW, a couple years later we did manage to buy ourselves our own Apple ][s, after the prices had come down quite a bit.)
Your argument is unconvincing. $3600 in 1977 was not affordable. And $50K and up for any kind of mini was – all things being relative – even less affordable.
The Apple II. (That is, an affordable, capable, expandable personal computer.)
I can say with some degree of certainty that $1300 in 1977 was anything but affordable. And for $1300 all you got was 4K of RAM. RAM cost nearly $600 for 16K, so a fully popped Apple ][ with 64K would have run you $3600.
You mean Mac OS 9 as in the successor of MacOS 8 as in the successor of Mac OS 7 as in the successor of Mac OS 6... as in the successor Mac OS from 1984?
Yes it was purely intentional the numbers chronologically lined up to the world dominating OS-9 from 1979.
Incorrect. The first release of Mac OS was 7.6. Before that it was called Macintosh System 7.5. And various dot releases before that. All the way down to System 1.
You neglected to tell us that C is portable, and assembly is not. One of the big points of the Unix and Linux kernels is that there is very nearly no assembly.
Also I don't really buy your statement that OO languages lack predictability in execution. While I would probably not suggest C++ for a kernel, my use of it – for storage software – did not not exhibit any unpredictability. To be sure, we used a very limited set of C++ features, and perhaps there are features we didn't use that might cause the unpredictability you're referring to – ymmv. I also have knowledge of another Open Source storage project written in C++ that uses every fricken last feature of C++ there is, and I have have heard a lot of things about it, but never that it had unpredictable execution. It's slow, but it's predictably slow.
I couldn't tell you about Rust, Golang, or Swift, as I haven't used those very much. Java's object ref counting and garbage collection seem like they'd be a can of worms – even if you were using a native compiler like GNU gcj – maybe that's what you're referring to.
So developers get a chance to play with all the new shiny toys for a while.
When the economy crashes again everyone will run back to the old tried and true, because they need to get work done.
This is about the fourth or fifth time I've seen this happen during my career.
Although IMO it would be nice to see something come along that could replace C for, e.g., kernels.
... more greenhouse gases than the EU, India, and Russia combined...
I travel to India frequently. When I see the smog in Delhi and all the dirty diesels and 2-stroke autos (auto being the term Indians use for powered rickshaws, a.k.a. tuck tucks) in Bangalore, I have a really tough time believing that the U.S. somehow produces more greenhouse gases than India. Especially with all of our regulations and how clean generally our cars and trucks and industry are.
Notice that that I'm only saying I have a tough time believing – I'm not saying I don't believe.
India needs to clean up its act as much as anyone does. There's no reason to let them off the hook.
Well, the Euro is sliding, but so is everything else. The Pound, the Yen, the Canadian Dollar, the Argentine Peso, and Indian Rupees, etc.
The US economy is doing well and it's really the Dollar's strength – against everything – as near as I can tell.
The Euro started life at $0.85 or so. It wouldn't surprise me to see it go back under a dollar. The Pound almost reached parity back in 1985, maybe it will do it again. Brexit hasn't helped either the Euro or the Pound. Also Europe's austerity measures. Look what we did after 2008 versus what Europe did. Keynesian economics FTW.
The electoral law in the United States of America is based on electoral college not popularity. It is precisely to prevent a small number of states (California, New York) from always determining the outcome.
Uh, tell us something we don't already know. And BTW, the electoral college is also there to prevent someone who is not qualified for the job from taking office. Something – IMO – they failed to do this time around.
In comparison...
In comparison to what?
... 302 votes to 232 votes, or thereabouts, is a relative landslide though not historic record breaking.
By what objective measure is this a "landslide." Answer: none.
You quoted many facts, but still failed to answer my question. If we take lights – and use them – the habitats won't be dark. Why would we choose to live in dark habitats?
...the people who voted for him... [are] a bunch of welfare losers..."
I'm not sure which way you're coming down on this, Are you trying to say that all 63M people who went trumpster diving on Nov. 8th are all on welfare? Whatever else I may think about them I'm pretty sure they're not all on welfare. Crack cocaine maybe, but not welfare – not all 63M of them.
You think anything Trump "promised" will actually happen?
Americans who thought they were going to be able to drop out of high school, get a job at the Ford plant, and buy a house with a swimming pool – like their dads did – are delusional.
(Yeah, I'm an American too, but I went to college and write software for a living. Now I just need to make it ten more years to retirement. Sometimes I wonder if I'll make it.)
I'm not holding my breath on tariffs. (And I agree that they're a bad idea.)
In this country, i.e. the USA, we could stop giving tax exemptions for more than two children. I don't know how other countries structure their taxes.
If you want to have a large family, fine, but you don't get a tax advantage for doing it.
The word you're looking for is "bred". They're being bred in zoos everywhere.
They may be being bred in zoos, but that's not a healthy situation for the species.
I recently reread Clarke's "Rendezvous with Rama" (I liked it as a teenager, but thought it was pretty crappy all these years later.) But I digress.
One notable thing though in the story is the idea of capping human population to one billion. I don't know if one billion is the right number, but it does make me wonder if there isn't some merit to the idea.
I suspect that would pretty much guarantee its demise. After all, what's another bankruptcy to him. He can use the loss to avoid paying even more taxes.
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Impeached, tried, found guilty. Meaningless formalities. A lot like Manning's trial I'd guess.
So yeah, keep telling yourself Blagojevich did nothing.
...harder for producers to hunt down and flag infringing material, since the videos are not shared publicly.
I've uploaded video of a dance routine that contained edited music – used under the Fair Use provision of the law.
It was not publicly shared.
That didn't stop the music owner from having it taken down.
I have to wonder how the music owner would otherwise have found it unless Google/Youtube themselves told the music owner about it.
Market clearing price to watch a movie – once, or 100 times by streaming – is lower than the cost to own it on Blu-Ray or DVD.
Studios may try to raise that price – temporarily – by not releasing the movie to Netflix streaming. But eventually they will, after disc sales fall off.
I'm in no hurry.
If you're going to play the everything is relative card, $3600 is still not very affordable today – 40 years later – when haters are still complaining about Apple's "overpriced" iMacs and Mac Pros at $2K and $3K and up. Or – at the other end of the spectrum – when you can buy a Raspberry Pi for under $30.
Compared to a $50K TI or HP mini back then, yeah, $3600 might seem more affordable. Certainly for businesses that could justify the cost and write it off on their taxes as an expense. If your parents were willing to pop $4K for you to have one – well lucky you. Not all of us weren't so lucky. For a kid who made $25 a month mowing lawns or delivering newspapers, $4K might as well have been $4M. And there were a lot of kids who didn't have a paper route or a lawn mowing job.
My brother and I did burn through hundreds of dollars on a TSO system writing some software that in retrospect was incredibly silly. But it was hundreds of dollars, not thousands of dollars. And we learned a lot, so it was money well spent really. All in all that "expensive" TSO was much more affordable than buying an Apple ][. (And BTW, a couple years later we did manage to buy ourselves our own Apple ][s, after the prices had come down quite a bit.)
Your argument is unconvincing. $3600 in 1977 was not affordable. And $50K and up for any kind of mini was – all things being relative – even less affordable.
Has Apple ever been first with anything?
The Apple II. (That is, an affordable, capable, expandable personal computer.)
I can say with some degree of certainty that $1300 in 1977 was anything but affordable. And for $1300 all you got was 4K of RAM. RAM cost nearly $600 for 16K, so a fully popped Apple ][ with 64K would have run you $3600.
You mean Mac OS 9 as in the successor of MacOS 8 as in the successor of Mac OS 7 as in the successor of Mac OS 6... as in the successor Mac OS from 1984?
Yes it was purely intentional the numbers chronologically lined up to the world dominating OS-9 from 1979.
Incorrect. The first release of Mac OS was 7.6. Before that it was called Macintosh System 7.5. And various dot releases before that. All the way down to System 1.
Easy enough to find out with a simple web search.
Thank you Captain Obvious.
You neglected to tell us that C is portable, and assembly is not. One of the big points of the Unix and Linux kernels is that there is very nearly no assembly.
Also I don't really buy your statement that OO languages lack predictability in execution. While I would probably not suggest C++ for a kernel, my use of it – for storage software – did not not exhibit any unpredictability. To be sure, we used a very limited set of C++ features, and perhaps there are features we didn't use that might cause the unpredictability you're referring to – ymmv. I also have knowledge of another Open Source storage project written in C++ that uses every fricken last feature of C++ there is, and I have have heard a lot of things about it, but never that it had unpredictable execution. It's slow, but it's predictably slow.
I couldn't tell you about Rust, Golang, or Swift, as I haven't used those very much. Java's object ref counting and garbage collection seem like they'd be a can of worms – even if you were using a native compiler like GNU gcj – maybe that's what you're referring to.
Before C we had B
Are you Brian Kernighan?
No
Brian has a beard. I don't.
Before C we had B
Are you Brian Kernighan?
No
C is the Primal Language. Before C we have clicks and whistles.
Before C we had B, and APL, PL/1, Cobol, and Fortran, just to name a few.
Come up for air sometime, it really helps clear your head.
So developers get a chance to play with all the new shiny toys for a while.
When the economy crashes again everyone will run back to the old tried and true, because they need to get work done.
This is about the fourth or fifth time I've seen this happen during my career.
Although IMO it would be nice to see something come along that could replace C for, e.g., kernels.
... more greenhouse gases than the EU, India, and Russia combined...
I travel to India frequently. When I see the smog in Delhi and all the dirty diesels and 2-stroke autos (auto being the term Indians use for powered rickshaws, a.k.a. tuck tucks) in Bangalore, I have a really tough time believing that the U.S. somehow produces more greenhouse gases than India. Especially with all of our regulations and how clean generally our cars and trucks and industry are.
Notice that that I'm only saying I have a tough time believing – I'm not saying I don't believe.
India needs to clean up its act as much as anyone does. There's no reason to let them off the hook.
Well, the Euro is sliding, but so is everything else. The Pound, the Yen, the Canadian Dollar, the Argentine Peso, and Indian Rupees, etc.
The US economy is doing well and it's really the Dollar's strength – against everything – as near as I can tell.
The Euro started life at $0.85 or so. It wouldn't surprise me to see it go back under a dollar. The Pound almost reached parity back in 1985, maybe it will do it again. Brexit hasn't helped either the Euro or the Pound. Also Europe's austerity measures. Look what we did after 2008 versus what Europe did. Keynesian economics FTW.
The electoral law in the United States of America is based on electoral college not popularity. It is precisely to prevent a small number of states (California, New York) from always determining the outcome.
Uh, tell us something we don't already know. And BTW, the electoral college is also there to prevent someone who is not qualified for the job from taking office. Something – IMO – they failed to do this time around.
In comparison...
In comparison to what?
By what objective measure is this a "landslide." Answer: none.
Because on /.'s last century platform we can't post a €500,000.
Oh look, € actually works. Most other stuff doesn't though.
You quoted many facts, but still failed to answer my question. If we take lights – and use them – the habitats won't be dark. Why would we choose to live in dark habitats?
...the people who voted for him ... [are] a bunch of welfare losers..."
I'm not sure which way you're coming down on this, Are you trying to say that all 63M people who went trumpster diving on Nov. 8th are all on welfare? Whatever else I may think about them I'm pretty sure they're not all on welfare. Crack cocaine maybe, but not welfare – not all 63M of them.
Other concepts had astronauts living in caves, or underground, or in dark, heavily shielded habitats.
Would we not take lights with us?
You think anything Trump "promised" will actually happen?
Americans who thought they were going to be able to drop out of high school, get a job at the Ford plant, and buy a house with a swimming pool – like their dads did – are delusional.
(Yeah, I'm an American too, but I went to college and write software for a living. Now I just need to make it ten more years to retirement. Sometimes I wonder if I'll make it.)
I'm not holding my breath on tariffs. (And I agree that they're a bad idea.)
In this country, i.e. the USA, we could stop giving tax exemptions for more than two children. I don't know how other countries structure their taxes.
If you want to have a large family, fine, but you don't get a tax advantage for doing it.
The word you're looking for is "bred". They're being bred in zoos everywhere.
They may be being bred in zoos, but that's not a healthy situation for the species.
I recently reread Clarke's "Rendezvous with Rama" (I liked it as a teenager, but thought it was pretty crappy all these years later.) But I digress.
One notable thing though in the story is the idea of capping human population to one billion. I don't know if one billion is the right number, but it does make me wonder if there isn't some merit to the idea.
And Newegg has already pulled the listing. Double Fail.
I'll just turn my phone off at night.
I suspect that would pretty much guarantee its demise. After all, what's another bankruptcy to him. He can use the loss to avoid paying even more taxes.
Incentivize? I don't recognize that as a word except when I'm playing buzzword bingo during a meeting.
Maybe he "... would provide incentives for Apple to build plants..." ?
#justsayin'