The Big-5 keep telling us that CD's are reasonably priced at $17. That we're stealing bread out of Britney Spear's babies, or something. We come back and say, "Hey, Cd's cost pennies to make, where the hell is my money going".
They respond by saying it's all in the marketing, the advertising, distribution (that they own 100%) to cover the 90% of the bands that lose money for them, etc, etc, etc.
Well if that's the case, they should make these SACD's the EXACT same price of CD's. They should discontinue the normal CD, and only sell the Hibred CD. No one should complain, as long as they can play them in normal CD players.
Since the marketing and distribution costs stay the same (it's not like they have some a multi million dollar ad campaign out there promoting SACD's) then the only cost difference should come from producing the product. I doubt it would cost them much more to only press SACD)
The result? Instant converts with every sale. Have a normal cd player? No big deal, it still plays. Itching to hear the magic of SACD? Then buy a player in the future.
I don't see why they're pussyfooting around this one.
It is a cool feeling. I had a watch that would sync up my running times when I entered my computer room. It was funky. I'm sure my children (10 years from now) will think of this stuff as utterly non-cool as "TV remotes".
I would be happy with the cure to cancer no matter what the cost. A cure is a cure, and the information will dissiminate.
Besides, chemo can't be very cheap. And dying isn't very profitable.
However, your points are very valid. It would be NICE if they spent some front-time on their goals and methods like SETI so clearly did back in the beginning.
"The door (would be) wide open for abuse by the copyright owner and harm to computer users," Sohn said. "For example, the limitations on altering and deleting files...conceivably would not prevent a copyright owner from cutting a user's DSL (digital subscriber line) or even his phone line or knocking his satellite dish off his roof."
Not only that, but this opens the door for all kinds of shady business practices (Not that this is a big leap for the Big-5)
They could look around your computer, find other legal mp3's (from non-RIAA) and delete them. Or more likely corrupt them so it mysteriously doesn't work. They could plant Trojan Horses on your computer so that whenever anyone in the FUTURE connects to your computer, they can then track that person.
It doesn't have to end with RIAA and MPAA. It could open the door for Software companies. Root around your computer and see if ANY application is pirated. If so, then fubar your whole machine.
"There has been a lot of misinformation about this bill," said Hilary Rosen, CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America. "Some have characterized it as allowing copyright vigilantism or letting record companies and movie studios hack into people's computers and crash networks. These irresponsible descriptions at best reveal a misunderstanding of the text and purpose of the bill, and at worst purposely cloud the real issues."
Nice try Hilary. I think we all see what happens to artists who sign a contract with you.
I'm sure it doens't say anywhere in your contracts that you're allowed to make indentured servants out of your artists, but you are able to get your lawyers to do just that!
I envision a dream parody where all the senators are lined up to sign this bill. And afterwards Hilary cackles in glee, "All your future bills are belong to us!"
And then we see congressmen having to actually PAY money at the end of the year, just to stay in office. They propose bill after bill, but the RIAA denies all the ones they don't like. And then someday on slashdot, we'll all be asking, "Dude, why would anyone want to become a politician?", and we'll all answer, "Because the Big-5 lure them with big $$$ and fame!"
....and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly looking people on the bench there.
Mother rapers.
Father stabbers.
Father rapers!
Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly 'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me and said,
"Kid, whad'ya get?"
I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $50 and delete my mp3's."
He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Trading Mp3's".
And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I said,
"And creating a nuisance."
And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing, father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench.
I don't feel picked on. I wish I could have thought of a better example, since I know that child pornography involves abusing a child to begin with. And that is the argument everyone brought up.
You Hentai example was much, much better, thanks. But then again, that's not illegal. Either is bestiality?
How about this... Why is it illegal for minors to view 18+ content? But it's ok to learn driving skill in GTA3 and join gangs and shoot people.
I don't know where I'm going with this. I'm mostly surprised to see the article. Seems to me that violent video games being a "solution" to anything means that we must have some pretty bad symptoms in this day and age.
It's like George bitching in "Seinfeld" about his grandparents eating bacon, eggs and sausage every day of their lives, and living to be 90 years old, while he's there trying without success to watch his health eating vegetables and tofu. We live in a stressful ramen & coke world.
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You know, you've got a great point.
The Big-5 keep telling us that CD's are reasonably priced at $17. That we're stealing bread out of Britney Spear's babies, or something. We come back and say, "Hey, Cd's cost pennies to make, where the hell is my money going".
They respond by saying it's all in the marketing, the advertising, distribution (that they own 100%) to cover the 90% of the bands that lose money for them, etc, etc, etc.
Well if that's the case, they should make these SACD's the EXACT same price of CD's. They should discontinue the normal CD, and only sell the Hibred CD. No one should complain, as long as they can play them in normal CD players.
Since the marketing and distribution costs stay the same (it's not like they have some a multi million dollar ad campaign out there promoting SACD's) then the only cost difference should come from producing the product. I doubt it would cost them much more to only press SACD)
The result? Instant converts with every sale. Have a normal cd player? No big deal, it still plays. Itching to hear the magic of SACD? Then buy a player in the future.
I don't see why they're pussyfooting around this one.
I needed to get a DVD player so that I could play all the SVCD's I downloaded.
Don't forget DVD really kicked in for the christmas season of 2001. Just wait til the 2002 numbers come in.
The advent of decent $99 dvd players is converting everyone.
They could simply just start giving away more hours for free.
Maybe 1,000,000 free hours*!
* for the first month only...
Anyone notice that microsoft has keywords next to the boy from the stock pictures?
Words like "Pre-Adolescent Child" , "One Boy Only"
Kind of weird.
It is a cool feeling. I had a watch that would sync up my running times when I entered my computer room. It was funky. I'm sure my children (10 years from now) will think of this stuff as utterly non-cool as "TV remotes".
As Dr. Evil found out... one meelion dollars doesn't go very far.
The XXAA's "contributions" are reoccuring. 1 million wouldn't last long to get their attention.
+5, Salute-worthy!!
I would be happy with the cure to cancer no matter what the cost. A cure is a cure, and the information will dissiminate.
Besides, chemo can't be very cheap. And dying isn't very profitable.
However, your points are very valid. It would be NICE if they spent some front-time on their goals and methods like SETI so clearly did back in the beginning.
Wow, removing that stupid favorites heart and changing scroll arrows is really some serious tweaking.
Zexplain zis drag and drop you zpeak of...
What's scary is that if things went differently, he wouldn't have been considered evil.
Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, then Hitler.
but if we made all our actions legal, then they wouldn't do any of this.
How come there weren't any pictures on the linked site? It would be nice to see
"The door (would be) wide open for abuse by the copyright owner and harm to computer users," Sohn said. "For example, the limitations on altering and deleting files...conceivably would not prevent a copyright owner from cutting a user's DSL (digital subscriber line) or even his phone line or knocking his satellite dish off his roof."
Not only that, but this opens the door for all kinds of shady business practices (Not that this is a big leap for the Big-5)
They could look around your computer, find other legal mp3's (from non-RIAA) and delete them. Or more likely corrupt them so it mysteriously doesn't work. They could plant Trojan Horses on your computer so that whenever anyone in the FUTURE connects to your computer, they can then track that person.
It doesn't have to end with RIAA and MPAA. It could open the door for Software companies. Root around your computer and see if ANY application is pirated. If so, then fubar your whole machine.
It would be more expensive for you.
"There has been a lot of misinformation about this bill," said Hilary Rosen, CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America. "Some have characterized it as allowing copyright vigilantism or letting record companies and movie studios hack into people's computers and crash networks. These irresponsible descriptions at best reveal a misunderstanding of the text and purpose of the bill, and at worst purposely cloud the real issues."
Nice try Hilary. I think we all see what happens to artists who sign a contract with you.
I'm sure it doens't say anywhere in your contracts that you're allowed to make indentured servants out of your artists, but you are able to get your lawyers to do just that!
I envision a dream parody where all the senators are lined up to sign this bill. And afterwards Hilary cackles in glee, "All your future bills are belong to us!"
And then we see congressmen having to actually PAY money at the end of the year, just to stay in office. They propose bill after bill, but the RIAA denies all the ones they don't like. And then someday on slashdot, we'll all be asking, "Dude, why would anyone want to become a politician?", and we'll all answer, "Because the Big-5 lure them with big $$$ and fame!"
how else would they fund their legal battles?
Or newsgroups
that's hilarious
....and there was all kinds of mean nasty ugly looking people on the bench there.
Mother rapers.
Father stabbers.
Father rapers!
Father rapers sitting right there on the bench next to me! And
they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the
bench next to me. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest
father raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean 'n' ugly
'n' nasty 'n' horrible and all kind of things and he sat down next to me
and said,
"Kid, whad'ya get?"
I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay $50 and delete my mp3's."
He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Trading Mp3's".
And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, till I
said,
"And creating a nuisance."
And they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin about crime, mother stabbing,
father raping, all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench.
I guess I shouldn't have been the first one to turn myself in.
My trial is next week....
It'll just show up cracked on the P2P network.
Just like Kazaa Lite shows up on the Kazaa network.
Other software in the "cracking" industry show up out there too, even though they think they can sell copies.
WinRar, CDClone, newsgroup readers, etc, always crack me up.
Yea, but maybe the company isn't called "Morpheus". Maybe it's Bob Shill. Who is Bob? There's lots of Bob's.
Maybe Amazon just hasn't secured the patent to it yet.
I don't feel picked on. I wish I could have thought of a better example, since I know that child pornography involves abusing a child to begin with. And that is the argument everyone brought up.
You Hentai example was much, much better, thanks. But then again, that's not illegal. Either is bestiality?
How about this... Why is it illegal for minors to view 18+ content? But it's ok to learn driving skill in GTA3 and join gangs and shoot people.
I don't know where I'm going with this. I'm mostly surprised to see the article. Seems to me that violent video games being a "solution" to anything means that we must have some pretty bad symptoms in this day and age.
It's like George bitching in "Seinfeld" about his grandparents eating bacon, eggs and sausage every day of their lives, and living to be 90 years old, while he's there trying without success to watch his health eating vegetables and tofu. We live in a stressful ramen & coke world.