I have a friend that always shoots himself in the foot with this stupid crap. First, he tries to impress them with how "deep" he is and then with how smart he is. He's actually a great guy until the women come around and then it's like he puts on this "artiste" persona, which comes off as creepy and contrived. Obviously it never works. One of my favorite write-ups of this particular brand of behavior is here, regarding the "Male Feminist"... so deep, so complex, how could she not be interested? Well she's not, and she tells you why.
Wouldn't it make it so nice if everyone you worked with played the same game?
"Sorry, I have to leave at lunch, we have a tower coming out of reinforced this afternoon."
I hope that they at least have to use vacation time or something. Then they can demand cash compensation from CCP for the value of vacation time lost! Not that it'll work, but it will make the forums that much more interesting.
I have to applaud CCP for doing something against the macrominers, i.e. removing Ice from 0.8+ security systems (as of tomorrow).
While it doesn't defeat the more sophisticated of the OCR macroers, it's something positive at least. Although it makes me sad now that I won't be able to take my Armageddon battleship out on the last day of its insurance and smartbomb the dickens out of some macro-Mackinaws.
It's tough to know what to do sometimes, especially if you don't interact much with the community. And you're more likely to interact with the community if you're in an active corporation. That's one of the negative aspects of the freedom the game gives you, it's hard to know what to do sometimes.
And honestly... if you just sat afk in an industrial with a Miner II pointed at a Veldspar asteroid for an hour you'd make more than 300k. But trust me, I've worked hader for less in my younger Eve days, so I understand your frustration.
Some people do better with linerar stories, others with open-ended. I'm actually more of the former, so Eve has been a challenge for me. But there's a huge player-driven community behind it that really makes it an amazing game. Tons of resources, theories of optimization, all that. It honestly wouldn't be nearly as fun without the player interaction, both in game and OOG.
And again, you CAN live longer than 5 minutes in 0.0, just probably not solo. I have a friend who is working towards buying a carrier with the plan of "claiming" a low-security system. We'll see how long that lasts. But a well-run corporation as part of a bigger alliance, now that's a recipe for longevity in zero sec.
I have to agree completely, and I'm sure tons others have said this in the space below where I haven't read to yet.
I used to hang out in highsec (0.5+) Empire space, mining and ratting, and it was just this side of hella boring. oooo Pyrox and Plag while popping rat frigates, ever so exciting. I ran missions, and even got so bored I ended up running trade goods. The occasional foray in to 0.4 and 0.3 space to mine or rat was about as exciting as it got.
0.0 changed all that. I have a corp with a strong presence in 0.0 (and in BoB), and they run ops all the time.. be they mining, PvP, complexes.. not to mention the rats are more interesting and the ore quite tasty. Plus, you just make at least 3x what you'd make in highsec, and that money translates into freedom.
For the casual gamers who just want to dink around, highsec is probably the better choice. But if you're playing to play and enjoy the game, find a good 0.0 corp.
Indeed... I did so enjoy playing a fed DN vs 9 rom FR and 8 BP... turn around, hit warp 5, and keep firing torps.
Either that, or the lovely chain reaction that is an xplasma torpedo destroying both fleets.
But yes, I spent hours of my life on an old 286, waiting and waiting for the processor to crank through a cycle. Was always a surprise to see nothing happen for 5 seconds, then:XPlasma: #(yourship) DESTRUCT!!# appear.
Begin was, and is, amazingly solid, and I enjoyed the flexibility of the game almost as much as anything else. Also enjoyed telling Spock to go stuff his odds of winning.:D But I thought of Begin as soon as I started reading the article, and I'm glad someone mentioned it. Did anyone ever pay the $10 to get the Advanced Simulations Manual? I did; Fairly interesting glimpse into the game's mechanics, quite useful if you were hardcore. (told, for example, that each cycle was made up of 10 "mini-cycles", so if something like a mkvii torpedo went warp 30 [3000 distance units/cycle] it went 300 distance units per mini-cycle, meaning a proximity fuse of greater than 300 would be the order of the day as the torp "jumped" 300 distance units each time... this is the sort of information that crowds out whatever calculus I learned in college)
The local Dave & Busters and Jillian's, both of which are entertainment establishments with video games, pool, etc.. and I think likely most other places that use tickets as a reward system will weigh them now instead of counting them. Good strategy, although I thought one day what the impact would be if you took all your tickets home and put scotch tape all over them. But then I realized that such a scheme works out to a pretty bad per-hour rate. But there's got to be an easier way to do it....
"Budwine! Makes you glad you're thirsty." Or as a friend of mine put it, "One is pleased to thirst in its presence."
One of my favorite college memories was driving from Athens, GA to Augusta, GA to buy cases (and cases) of Budwine directly from Southern Beverage Packers.
Anyway. the whole purpose of this particular post is to miss Budwine. Again.
I'm an adult and I should have the right to do what I want provided I don't hurt anyone else in the process, besides, alcohol or cigarettes kill more people each year than pot ever could
I love that both of these thoughts are expressed in the same sentence.
Troll my ass, do you really want security wasting their time making purely random checks?
Exactly. You hear in the US how we don't want to have "profiling", but then there's complaints and QQing when an 89 year old grandmother gets stopped and searched at the airport gates. Well random is exactly that, random, and that grandma is going to get stopped as often as the "real" bad guy.
Racial profiling is wrong if that's all that's used. Profiling, in general, should actually be quite useful when done properly. In fact, CBS debued a very good show last night after Survivor, called "Criminal Minds", about a profiler working with the FBI to catch criminals. If profiling helps eliminate an 89 year old grandma from the pool of poeple so that we don't waste time searching her, then that's good.
(I'm using the 89 year old grandma as an illustration of someone who is always, 100% innocent. In [Slashdot] reality I know this is potentially impractical, but the chance that she is a terrorst or other criminal is far far lower than the norm)
What we have to realize is the information disparity: We know we're not terrorists (right?) but they don't. Because of imperfect information, mistakes will be made.. like when you buy something for twice as much as you could have spent elsewhere because you didn't comparison shop. Imperfect information causes people to make mistakes all the time. Unfortunately, some of those mistakes are more visible (and have more far-reaching consequences) than others.
I agree completely. Reading all of this makes me nostalgic for the X-Wing/B-Wing/Tie Fighter series. I loved that series and it would be perfectly playable now. The thing I hate is that really GOOD concepts get lots in the "It's been done before" bin.
Better graphics, better sounds, a better physics engine, all would be wonderful to see in a remake of X-Wing. But ffs just give me the gameplay.
Exactly. It's a "gee whiz" thing, nothing useful per se. Think of all the people who had their names aboard the comet impactor. Not like they were going anywhere where they could be recovered, but lots of folks still did it. Same with this; It's a fun thing that raises awareness.
I guess in a way it's like having a star named after you or your child or your wife. It's not like aliens will one day land here to reconcile their star charts with our naming conventions.
But yes, in essence you're correct. It's just amazing how much time and effort nowadays is spent on changing numbers in a database somewhere. Very etherial.
That would actually be really interesting. More and more I'm starting to like games where you can make progress even if you're not online. (Eve Online and Planetarion are the first two that come to mind but only because they're the only ones I play).
I know all this is non-profit and volunteer, but I would love to see something substantive in return for making the office bedroom 10 degrees (F) hotter than the rest of the house.
I've been wondering about that. I have d.net running on the same computer as BONIC, and I thought they got along nicely and shared and whatnot, but then I noticed that BONIC wasn't moving progress-wise. I'd also noticed some time ago that I wasn't able to get any updates.
My real question about this is am I killing my laptop faster than I'm killing my desktops using these clients? I would guess yes. Unfortunately the laptop is the fastest machine and I'm a d.net stats.addict.:P
Well thank you for both sentiments.:) As a parent now myself, I'm amazed at the stuff you do to make your kid's life easier that they'll never even be aware of. Kinda humbling to look back with that in mind.
I had this too, and have been racking my brain to remember what it was. OK maybe "racking my brain" is a little strong, but I do remember.. before I got my Intellivision (Thanks Mom & Dad!), they gave me this neat little game with six games (if memory serves)... Pong and variants, and two target-shooting games. White blocks instead of ducks, but at least an animated dog didn't laugh at you if you missed (although maybe your little brother did).
In an effort to tell a funny story and get this post modded up, my parents bought me an Intellivision and three games for Christmas. It came with Poker & Blackjack but they got me a few others, once of which was Space Battle (I think Astrosmash was another but I can't be sure). They hooked it up and, my dad being a dad after all, playtested it to make sure everything worked okay. They quickly realized that the fleets in Space Battle were White, Yellow, and Blue... and that it was impossible to distinguish White and Yellow on a Black and White TV. So there are my parents, out on Christmas Eve, RENTING a color TV so I can play my games when I wake up the next morning.
The more I think about it, the more it makes me respect them.
Failure of one out of four sensors is not catastrophic. It's like an 18 wheeler losing a tire.... bad (especially if you're behind it, but I digress), but not fatal. It can get along with 17. In the same way, the ET has four sensors for each of the two tanks (hydrogen and oxygen). Two of these four need to register low fuel levels before commanding engine shutoff.
Having four sensors is optimal. Having three operational is a fail-safe position. You can operate from fail-safe, but you don't want to start that way. That is why NASA scrubbed the 13 July launch.
One sensor out of eight is showing this, and intermittently at that. They've not seen this behavior on prior launches. And once they have ET separation, the sensor ceases to become an issue.
This is emphatically NOT the same as the O-ring or debris-strike scenarios. In both cases there were multiple cases where the damage was observed, reported, and investigated. This sensor is NOT a single point of failure, unlike the O-rings and damage to the RCC TPU. It makes the remaining three sensors in the ET more important, to be sure, but its failure does not in and of itself doom the shuttle or even create a huge cause for concern. You want everything to be as perfect as possible when you launch, either working to specs or working outside specs but understood and accepted. This latter category isn't optimal but on a device as complicated as the Shuttle is necessary.
Also, from what I understand, should the sensor in question 'fail' and somehow cause the engines to run without fuel (remember, two are needed to cause engine shutdown), there would be 'uncontained damage' to the engines, but such damage would not be catastrophic and the shuttle would likely land safely. Yes, "likely" isn't the same as "certainly", but as we all know the Shuttle is still an experimental vehicle. Sometimes you take what you can get. In this case, it's been 2 1/2 years, and you make the "Go" decision because it will provide vast stores of information as to the improvments NASA has made to the Shuttle stack. Weigh that against one faulty sensor with three backups and I'm impressed that NASA scrubbed the first time.
But to make this acutally substantive, I have a hard time imagining a job where keystroke logging, even just for counting purposes, is the ONLY way to track productivity. Productivity implies you are producing something, making progress somewhere. That has to be trackable somehow. If nothing else, make the guy account for his time in certain increments. I know that's not a great thing to do and not foolproof either, but what I'm saying is there have to be better, more objective, more thorough solutions that counting keystrokes. If not, I'll just jam down my Enter key and take a 3 hour lunch.
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Wouldn't it make it so nice if everyone you worked with played the same game?
"Sorry, I have to leave at lunch, we have a tower coming out of reinforced this afternoon."
I hope that they at least have to use vacation time or something. Then they can demand cash compensation from CCP for the value of vacation time lost! Not that it'll work, but it will make the forums that much more interesting.
I have to applaud CCP for doing something against the macrominers, i.e. removing Ice from 0.8+ security systems (as of tomorrow).
While it doesn't defeat the more sophisticated of the OCR macroers, it's something positive at least. Although it makes me sad now that I won't be able to take my Armageddon battleship out on the last day of its insurance and smartbomb the dickens out of some macro-Mackinaws.
It's tough to know what to do sometimes, especially if you don't interact much with the community. And you're more likely to interact with the community if you're in an active corporation. That's one of the negative aspects of the freedom the game gives you, it's hard to know what to do sometimes.
And honestly... if you just sat afk in an industrial with a Miner II pointed at a Veldspar asteroid for an hour you'd make more than 300k. But trust me, I've worked hader for less in my younger Eve days, so I understand your frustration.
Some people do better with linerar stories, others with open-ended. I'm actually more of the former, so Eve has been a challenge for me. But there's a huge player-driven community behind it that really makes it an amazing game. Tons of resources, theories of optimization, all that. It honestly wouldn't be nearly as fun without the player interaction, both in game and OOG.
And again, you CAN live longer than 5 minutes in 0.0, just probably not solo. I have a friend who is working towards buying a carrier with the plan of "claiming" a low-security system. We'll see how long that lasts. But a well-run corporation as part of a bigger alliance, now that's a recipe for longevity in zero sec.
I have to agree completely, and I'm sure tons others have said this in the space below where I haven't read to yet.
I used to hang out in highsec (0.5+) Empire space, mining and ratting, and it was just this side of hella boring. oooo Pyrox and Plag while popping rat frigates, ever so exciting. I ran missions, and even got so bored I ended up running trade goods. The occasional foray in to 0.4 and 0.3 space to mine or rat was about as exciting as it got.
0.0 changed all that. I have a corp with a strong presence in 0.0 (and in BoB), and they run ops all the time.. be they mining, PvP, complexes.. not to mention the rats are more interesting and the ore quite tasty. Plus, you just make at least 3x what you'd make in highsec, and that money translates into freedom.
For the casual gamers who just want to dink around, highsec is probably the better choice. But if you're playing to play and enjoy the game, find a good 0.0 corp.
I have version 1.6 and would be glad to send it to you if you can't find it. Just email me at my username(at)gmaildotcom.
Indeed... I did so enjoy playing a fed DN vs 9 rom FR and 8 BP... turn around, hit warp 5, and keep firing torps.
:XPlasma: #(yourship) DESTRUCT!!# appear.
:D But I thought of Begin as soon as I started reading the article, and I'm glad someone mentioned it. Did anyone ever pay the $10 to get the Advanced Simulations Manual? I did; Fairly interesting glimpse into the game's mechanics, quite useful if you were hardcore. (told, for example, that each cycle was made up of 10 "mini-cycles", so if something like a mkvii torpedo went warp 30 [3000 distance units/cycle] it went 300 distance units per mini-cycle, meaning a proximity fuse of greater than 300 would be the order of the day as the torp "jumped" 300 distance units each time... this is the sort of information that crowds out whatever calculus I learned in college)
Either that, or the lovely chain reaction that is an xplasma torpedo destroying both fleets.
But yes, I spent hours of my life on an old 286, waiting and waiting for the processor to crank through a cycle. Was always a surprise to see nothing happen for 5 seconds, then
Begin was, and is, amazingly solid, and I enjoyed the flexibility of the game almost as much as anything else. Also enjoyed telling Spock to go stuff his odds of winning.
TOTAL LIFETIME GROSSES
Domestic: $25,514,517 65.7%
+ Overseas: $13,314,144 34.3%
-----
= Worldwide: $38,828,661
Don't ignore overseas, m'kay? I know it doesn't swing the movie to profitability, but it's closer.
The local Dave & Busters and Jillian's, both of which are entertainment establishments with video games, pool, etc.. and I think likely most other places that use tickets as a reward system will weigh them now instead of counting them. Good strategy, although I thought one day what the impact would be if you took all your tickets home and put scotch tape all over them. But then I realized that such a scheme works out to a pretty bad per-hour rate. But there's got to be an easier way to do it....
"Budwine! Makes you glad you're thirsty." Or as a friend of mine put it, "One is pleased to thirst in its presence."
One of my favorite college memories was driving from Athens, GA to Augusta, GA to buy cases (and cases) of Budwine directly from Southern Beverage Packers.
Anyway. the whole purpose of this particular post is to miss Budwine. Again.
Or would you claim that the Mississippi River divides the country into two distinct landmasses?
The FCC would say so.
Nitpick, sorry... but something that occured to me.
I'm an adult and I should have the right to do what I want provided I don't hurt anyone else in the process, besides, alcohol or cigarettes kill more people each year than pot ever could
I love that both of these thoughts are expressed in the same sentence.
Not a commentary on anything but the irony.
Troll my ass, do you really want security wasting their time making purely random checks?
Exactly. You hear in the US how we don't want to have "profiling", but then there's complaints and QQing when an 89 year old grandmother gets stopped and searched at the airport gates. Well random is exactly that, random, and that grandma is going to get stopped as often as the "real" bad guy.
Racial profiling is wrong if that's all that's used. Profiling, in general, should actually be quite useful when done properly. In fact, CBS debued a very good show last night after Survivor, called "Criminal Minds", about a profiler working with the FBI to catch criminals. If profiling helps eliminate an 89 year old grandma from the pool of poeple so that we don't waste time searching her, then that's good.
(I'm using the 89 year old grandma as an illustration of someone who is always, 100% innocent. In [Slashdot] reality I know this is potentially impractical, but the chance that she is a terrorst or other criminal is far far lower than the norm)
What we have to realize is the information disparity: We know we're not terrorists (right?) but they don't. Because of imperfect information, mistakes will be made.. like when you buy something for twice as much as you could have spent elsewhere because you didn't comparison shop. Imperfect information causes people to make mistakes all the time. Unfortunately, some of those mistakes are more visible (and have more far-reaching consequences) than others.
Also forgot to speculate what a Beowulf cluster of these would be like. And the ever popular
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I agree completely. Reading all of this makes me nostalgic for the X-Wing/B-Wing/Tie Fighter series. I loved that series and it would be perfectly playable now. The thing I hate is that really GOOD concepts get lots in the "It's been done before" bin.
Better graphics, better sounds, a better physics engine, all would be wonderful to see in a remake of X-Wing. But ffs just give me the gameplay.
Exactly. It's a "gee whiz" thing, nothing useful per se. Think of all the people who had their names aboard the comet impactor. Not like they were going anywhere where they could be recovered, but lots of folks still did it. Same with this; It's a fun thing that raises awareness.
I guess in a way it's like having a star named after you or your child or your wife. It's not like aliens will one day land here to reconcile their star charts with our naming conventions.
Depends on the eBay market. :)
But yes, in essence you're correct. It's just amazing how much time and effort nowadays is spent on changing numbers in a database somewhere. Very etherial.
Yeah. I work for an entire month and all that happens is some numbers change on a computer screen when I log in to my online banking. :)
That would actually be really interesting. More and more I'm starting to like games where you can make progress even if you're not online. (Eve Online and Planetarion are the first two that come to mind but only because they're the only ones I play).
I know all this is non-profit and volunteer, but I would love to see something substantive in return for making the office bedroom 10 degrees (F) hotter than the rest of the house.
I've been wondering about that. I have d.net running on the same computer as BONIC, and I thought they got along nicely and shared and whatnot, but then I noticed that BONIC wasn't moving progress-wise. I'd also noticed some time ago that I wasn't able to get any updates.
:P
My real question about this is am I killing my laptop faster than I'm killing my desktops using these clients? I would guess yes. Unfortunately the laptop is the fastest machine and I'm a d.net stats.addict.
Well thank you for both sentiments. :) As a parent now myself, I'm amazed at the stuff you do to make your kid's life easier that they'll never even be aware of. Kinda humbling to look back with that in mind.
I had this too, and have been racking my brain to remember what it was. OK maybe "racking my brain" is a little strong, but I do remember.. before I got my Intellivision (Thanks Mom & Dad!), they gave me this neat little game with six games (if memory serves)... Pong and variants, and two target-shooting games. White blocks instead of ducks, but at least an animated dog didn't laugh at you if you missed (although maybe your little brother did).
In an effort to tell a funny story and get this post modded up, my parents bought me an Intellivision and three games for Christmas. It came with Poker & Blackjack but they got me a few others, once of which was Space Battle (I think Astrosmash was another but I can't be sure). They hooked it up and, my dad being a dad after all, playtested it to make sure everything worked okay. They quickly realized that the fleets in Space Battle were White, Yellow, and Blue... and that it was impossible to distinguish White and Yellow on a Black and White TV. So there are my parents, out on Christmas Eve, RENTING a color TV so I can play my games when I wake up the next morning.
The more I think about it, the more it makes me respect them.
"Hey, Coop! When was the last time you made a home run without La-Z-Boy??"
*sniff*
This is... well, this is sort of different.
Failure of one out of four sensors is not catastrophic. It's like an 18 wheeler losing a tire.... bad (especially if you're behind it, but I digress), but not fatal. It can get along with 17. In the same way, the ET has four sensors for each of the two tanks (hydrogen and oxygen). Two of these four need to register low fuel levels before commanding engine shutoff.
Having four sensors is optimal. Having three operational is a fail-safe position. You can operate from fail-safe, but you don't want to start that way. That is why NASA scrubbed the 13 July launch.
One sensor out of eight is showing this, and intermittently at that. They've not seen this behavior on prior launches. And once they have ET separation, the sensor ceases to become an issue.
This is emphatically NOT the same as the O-ring or debris-strike scenarios. In both cases there were multiple cases where the damage was observed, reported, and investigated. This sensor is NOT a single point of failure, unlike the O-rings and damage to the RCC TPU. It makes the remaining three sensors in the ET more important, to be sure, but its failure does not in and of itself doom the shuttle or even create a huge cause for concern. You want everything to be as perfect as possible when you launch, either working to specs or working outside specs but understood and accepted. This latter category isn't optimal but on a device as complicated as the Shuttle is necessary.
Also, from what I understand, should the sensor in question 'fail' and somehow cause the engines to run without fuel (remember, two are needed to cause engine shutdown), there would be 'uncontained damage' to the engines, but such damage would not be catastrophic and the shuttle would likely land safely. Yes, "likely" isn't the same as "certainly", but as we all know the Shuttle is still an experimental vehicle. Sometimes you take what you can get. In this case, it's been 2 1/2 years, and you make the "Go" decision because it will provide vast stores of information as to the improvments NASA has made to the Shuttle stack. Weigh that against one faulty sensor with three backups and I'm impressed that NASA scrubbed the first time.
Sometimes, you go with 17 wheels.
"How did people ever look busy before computers?"
But to make this acutally substantive, I have a hard time imagining a job where keystroke logging, even just for counting purposes, is the ONLY way to track productivity. Productivity implies you are producing something, making progress somewhere. That has to be trackable somehow. If nothing else, make the guy account for his time in certain increments. I know that's not a great thing to do and not foolproof either, but what I'm saying is there have to be better, more objective, more thorough solutions that counting keystrokes. If not, I'll just jam down my Enter key and take a 3 hour lunch.