"Why would you want to read when you got the television set sitting right in front of you? There's nothing you can get from a book that you can't get from a television faster." Harry Wormwood
Email clients are like shoes for me
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Some look nice but are uncomfortable. Some are hardy and last for ages, no matter what happens. Others just aren't my style.
Rough chronology of Internet email clients:
1989 - mail(1)
1991 - elm
1995 - pine
1997 - NSMail
1997 - exmh
1998 - GNUS
2004 - mutt
I have also had to use MS Outlook, Lotus Notes, a mainframe email client at Amdahl Corp and DG's Office mail client at DG Corp. None of them are ideal as Internet mail is not their primary purpose. For instance, tracking headers is not straight-forward and GPG is not (easily) supported.
mutt has to be most dependable and flexible of these. I plan to go back to GNUS once I get around to replacing my useless "cheap" firewall/router and looking into problems I had with >10,000 messages.
Fundamentally GNU is a continual education exercise to ensure users of software understand the need for software freedom.
Educated consumers will demand hardware with open specs that free software can support. Educated users will demand books, entertainment and media that is useable by them in ways that they see fit, not restricted to the technical constraints imposed by the supplier. Educated users will contribute to Free software by way of documentation, support, education, money and code.
I am not surprised by the hostility towards RMS shown in this topic. I guess that as more and more people adopt Linux, we are seeing a greater proportion of comments from these people who naturally have little idea of the history of GNU, why it exists and where it is going.
Richard has always held a firm line on Freedom with respect to software for precisely the thoughts expressed here. GNU arose out of the rise of pragmatists over those who valued the free exchange of ideas(software). They traded away channels of collaboration for a restricitve environment where third parties dictate the terms of collaboration and use. The pragmatists have inherited GNU and are destined to lose it once again.
I have been with an org for 6 months and it has been my first Notes experience. Yes it is quirky, but I have never seen any other place that shares its information amongst itself so well. I think it had certainly enhnaced the way they go about their business. I agree there are a lot of quirky things that are deep design flaws.
My favourite is the marble quest. Encourages searching and exploring the entire MUD. I've only found 5 marbles, but I've only explored 1300 of the 113000 rooms, I think there are hundreds of marbles. It is satifying finding them as they are hidden in some strange places.
There are many reasons I can think of for this. Size; economic importance of the creature and its habitat along with the habitat's accessibility; size of their egesta (easier tracking larger animals). Large creatures usually have a larger range because of the greater food needs. Or they live in highly productive areas which are often attractive to humans for economic reasons. And finally, Pandas are extremely well-recognised around the world. A small rodent with a tail to a casual observer looks like a rat.
I can't believe this comment is at -1. Apple have been slack with responding to local vulnerabilities. A former colleague spent a day and found 5 in OS X. reported them all to Apple and never heard from the company again.
However, there is a major boundary between the Cretaceous and Tertiary strata, above which there are no dinosaurs, ammmonites and a bunch of other missing phyla. There has also been found in a number of places a coincident iridium anomaly, indicative of a wide-reaching impact event. Of course scientists look for all possible explanations and exceptions. The asteroid impact theory is the latest one that has a lot of evidence supporting it.
Is it the sole cause? probably not. Will another theory come along to supplant it? maybe. Science journalism is sometimes caught between the nebulous world of nascent theories and the need for understandable explanations.
The first computer I used was in 1975. We would ship off our 'mark-sense" cards with APL encoded to the Angle Park Computing Centre in South Australia. A week later we would get our output and see if it ran or not.
The first computer I bought was an Osbourne 1 in 1982. What incredible value for money! Twin floppies, 64k RAM, CP/M, MBASIC, Business Basic, WordStar and Supercalc. I bought one with my first job (COBOL programming on a 370/168) before I bought a car. I should have spent money on a decent programming language, but I got a car and that is when the savings became spendings.
The other major concern for this card (this bit actually answers your question), is that currently, the government departments can't share information about you between them. The database behind the card not only allows, but actually forces, them to. Suddenly anything any department of the government has about you is available to any public servant with the desire (or boredom) to look it up, for any reason, or no reason at all.
Sorry. Data matching between Centrelink and ATO las been going on since the "Data Matching Project" initiated around 1990. TFN is generally what they use but I'm sure there is some other matching (Hidden Markov) as well. There are a couple of other agencies as well IIRC.
That being said, is interesting how Labour govts in Australia and UK are the ones to put up these ideas. Public servants love the idea because it makes their computer systems more efficient.
On the other hand, as other posters have pointed out, UK, US, Oz and NZ might be the few countries that don't have ID cards. Either they are out of step or are onto something significant. I would suggest valuing personal liberty and trusting the majority of its citizens to do the right thing might be at the top of the list.
Interesting anecdote. It has been my experience also that the biggest power problems have involved "U"PSs! In my last contract we had two "one-in-280 year events", 3 weeks apart. Another site was was constantly going off the air because the building management would hold weekly "U"PS tests.
I don't think I felt 'grown up' until I hit 42. Living a peaceful existence with low physical and emotional stress compared to hunter gatherers, farmers, soldiers etc may have something to do with it.
I keep coming back to 3k.org. Great fun, low on CPU requirements and an ever-expanding game where char death has significant consequences. First char in 1994. Latest incarnation a month ago after a hiatus of a few years.
Sensible, Passionate, Helpful, Friendly, Intelligent, Communicative, Considerate. These are not the criteria for a FSF award, but these are the attributes that comes to mind from the years I have known Tridge. A driving force in the formation of CLUG and getting Linus to visit Canberra all those years ago. Of course he is not a god, but he is certainly deserving of any award the world chooses bestow upon him.
Or the press release comes first? I am interested in seeing something more meaty. I have found some related papers but not a specific one. That or just lazy.
Sorry. ID is in the same genus as creationism with the same goals but uses different pseudo-scientific claims. See "Origins and Promotions" of this Wikipedia entry for a quick synopsis of the deceit.
Had a quest where I had to kill some innocents who were standing in between me and my objective. It was also against my alignment (at the time - A neutral priest tends to sway across the line). In the end I got the Quest Points...
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"Why would you want to read when you got the television set sitting right in front of you? There's nothing you can get from a book that you can't get from a television faster." Harry Wormwood
I have also had to use MS Outlook, Lotus Notes, a mainframe email client at Amdahl Corp and DG's Office mail client at DG Corp. None of them are ideal as Internet mail is not their primary purpose. For instance, tracking headers is not straight-forward and GPG is not (easily) supported.
mutt has to be most dependable and flexible of these. I plan to go back to GNUS once I get around to replacing my useless "cheap" firewall/router and looking into problems I had with >10,000 messages.
Fundamentally GNU is a continual education exercise to ensure users of software understand the need for software freedom.
Educated consumers will demand hardware with open specs that free software can support. Educated users will demand books, entertainment and media that is useable by them in ways that they see fit, not restricted to the technical constraints imposed by the supplier. Educated users will contribute to Free software by way of documentation, support, education, money and code.
I am not surprised by the hostility towards RMS shown in this topic. I guess that as more and more people adopt Linux, we are seeing a greater proportion of comments from these people who naturally have little idea of the history of GNU, why it exists and where it is going.
Richard has always held a firm line on Freedom with respect to software for precisely the thoughts expressed here. GNU arose out of the rise of pragmatists over those who valued the free exchange of ideas(software). They traded away channels of collaboration for a restricitve environment where third parties dictate the terms of collaboration and use. The pragmatists have inherited GNU and are destined to lose it once again.
I have been with an org for 6 months and it has been my first Notes experience. Yes it is quirky, but I have never seen any other place that shares its information amongst itself so well. I think it had certainly enhnaced the way they go about their business. I agree there are a lot of quirky things that are deep design flaws.
I'm impressed you didn't post as an AC :)
Here's a non-fatal crash. We'll see how they go with their new maintenance crew restructuring/offshoring.
My favourite is the marble quest. Encourages searching and exploring the entire MUD. I've only found 5 marbles, but I've only explored 1300 of the 113000 rooms, I think there are hundreds of marbles. It is satifying finding them as they are hidden in some strange places.
There are many reasons I can think of for this. Size; economic importance of the creature and its habitat along with the habitat's accessibility; size of their egesta (easier tracking larger animals). Large creatures usually have a larger range because of the greater food needs. Or they live in highly productive areas which are often attractive to humans for economic reasons. And finally, Pandas are extremely well-recognised around the world. A small rodent with a tail to a casual observer looks like a rat.
I can't believe this comment is at -1. Apple have been slack with responding to local vulnerabilities. A former colleague spent a day and found 5 in OS X. reported them all to Apple and never heard from the company again.
However, there is a major boundary between the Cretaceous and Tertiary strata, above which there are no dinosaurs, ammmonites and a bunch of other missing phyla. There has also been found in a number of places a coincident iridium anomaly, indicative of a wide-reaching impact event. Of course scientists look for all possible explanations and exceptions. The asteroid impact theory is the latest one that has a lot of evidence supporting it.
Is it the sole cause? probably not. Will another theory come along to supplant it? maybe. Science journalism is sometimes caught between the nebulous world of nascent theories and the need for understandable explanations.
And how many of those scientists were in Earth and Life Sciences?
The first computer I used was in 1975. We would ship off our 'mark-sense" cards with APL encoded to the Angle Park Computing Centre in South Australia. A week later we would get our output and see if it ran or not.
The first computer I bought was an Osbourne 1 in 1982. What incredible value for money! Twin floppies, 64k RAM, CP/M, MBASIC, Business Basic, WordStar and Supercalc. I bought one with my first job (COBOL programming on a 370/168) before I bought a car. I should have spent money on a decent programming language, but I got a car and that is when the savings became spendings.
The other major concern for this card (this bit actually answers your question), is that currently, the government departments can't share information about you between them. The database behind the card not only allows, but actually forces, them to. Suddenly anything any department of the government has about you is available to any public servant with the desire (or boredom) to look it up, for any reason, or no reason at all.
Sorry. Data matching between Centrelink and ATO las been going on since the "Data Matching Project" initiated around 1990. TFN is generally what they use but I'm sure there is some other matching (Hidden Markov) as well. There are a couple of other agencies as well IIRC.
That being said, is interesting how Labour govts in Australia and UK are the ones to put up these ideas. Public servants love the idea because it makes their computer systems more efficient.
On the other hand, as other posters have pointed out, UK, US, Oz and NZ might be the few countries that don't have ID cards. Either they are out of step or are onto something significant. I would suggest valuing personal liberty and trusting the majority of its citizens to do the right thing might be at the top of the list.
Interesting anecdote. It has been my experience also that the biggest power problems have involved "U"PSs! In my last contract we had two "one-in-280 year events", 3 weeks apart. Another site was was constantly going off the air because the building management would hold weekly "U"PS tests.
That would make it the Swiss flag then. When I was at primary school, my teacher told me that was where the symbol came from.
I don't think I felt 'grown up' until I hit 42. Living a peaceful existence with low physical and emotional stress compared to hunter gatherers, farmers, soldiers etc may have something to do with it.
I keep coming back to 3k.org. Great fun, low on CPU requirements and an ever-expanding game where char death has significant consequences. First char in 1994. Latest incarnation a month ago after a hiatus of a few years.
Sensible, Passionate, Helpful, Friendly, Intelligent, Communicative, Considerate. These are not the criteria for a FSF award, but these are the attributes that comes to mind from the years I have known Tridge. A driving force in the formation of CLUG and getting Linus to visit Canberra all those years ago. Of course he is not a god, but he is certainly deserving of any award the world chooses bestow upon him.
The funny thing is that diamonds at standard temperature and pressure are NOT forever.
Whereas spelling is universally bad.
Lazy it was.
Or the press release comes first? I am interested in seeing something more meaty. I have found some related papers but not a specific one. That or just lazy.
Sorry. ID is in the same genus as creationism with the same goals but uses different pseudo-scientific claims. See "Origins and Promotions" of this Wikipedia entry for a quick synopsis of the deceit.
As slashdot make sure there is really no life left in this once-sick horse.
Had a quest where I had to kill some innocents who were standing in between me and my objective. It was also against my alignment (at the time - A neutral priest tends to sway across the line). In the end I got the Quest Points...