"He'd have to kill many, many more to come close to the number of Afghans murdered by the Taliban, or Iraqis murdered by the Ba'ath regeime."
Like I said give him time. I know that right now he is less evil then the taliban because the number of people he killed is less then the taliban but I am sure he will catch up and be just as evil.
"Correction: there are three camps where POWs are being held."
These people are not POWs. The US does not recognize them as such. Also they are not on US soil. US is free to do whatever it wants to them because they are acting outside US law, UN mandates, and the geneva convention. As I said you and I are not allowed to know what is going in there but I imagine it's not pretty.
"The difference is that not one of the Japanese Americans that FDR imprisoned comitted any act of agression against their fellow citizens."
Same could be said for almost 100% of the so called illegal combatants.
"Gosh, aren't you cute?
Really, this overblown rhetoric just makes you easy to dismiss."
facts are a bitch aren't they. You know you can't deny that the residents of our concentration camps are living in chain link cages smaller then the one your dog has. You know that it's wrong to do that. You know that even somebody as evil as hitler provided walls and beds for his prisoners.
Knowing all that and being unable to argue against it you call me cute and choose to dismiss me.
You can dismiss me all you want, it won't change the facts.
"We need warp drives now to expand our resources and look at other worlds. I know this is a pipe dream but I wonder how long it will take to make this a reality. Stephen Hawkings mentioned this as well when he said by 2600, all humans will be living shoulder to shoulder if we do not research and develop space technology."
Gee why don't we try easier things first. Let's start with birth control.
"So far, neither have you. Is there any reason why I should expect this to change?"
Bush has killed lots of afghanis and iraqis. I haven't killed anybody. Bush is talking like he is going to kill iranians and syrians I have never said anything like that.
"One president has in fact rounded up US citizens and put them in conentration camps for no more cause than their race, and (surprise!) it was a democrat who did it."
Bush did it too. There are at least three concentration camps that I am aware of. One in cuba, one in afghanistan, and one in quatar. These are all filled with muslims.
I don't know what is going on in any of them (damn I wish I lived in a country with a free press) but I do know that the one in cuba consisted of cells made out of chain link. They were about the size of a typical dog kennel you might buy at your local hardware store.
Say what you want about hitler he at least provided walls for his prisoners.
It seems to me that everything Bruce praises about python also applies to most other dynamic typed scripting languages. Certainly ruby and even php or dare I say it perl.
He seems more in love with the idea of typeless, brief, dynamic and expressive languages in general. it's just that he learned python first and has gotten good at it. If he picked up Ruby first he would be saying the same things about it.
"You have no proof. So you are just slandering some Mormons which is ok because they must be repubicans in your thinking."
Why don't you do this. Why don't you go re-read all my posts on this thread and find one post in which I said anything about mormons. Go ahead I dare you.
You see now? I didn't say anything about mormons at all. If you are going to argue then you could at least have the decency to argue against the things I actually said rather then rail against the things you imagine I said. Maybe the voices in your head said bad things about mormons but that wasn't me. Got it?
I wonder how much of the earths natural resources will be be consumed to raise the standard of living for a quarter of the world's population.
All those TVs, cars, underarm deoderants, houses, carpeting, computers etc.
It will be interesting to see if they have enough water to even to get to 1/4th of our standard of living. Maybe the new dam will help.
I am pretty sure they won't have enough trees to meet their wood and paper needs so the US and Canadians will accelarate logging to meet that need. In the short term big win for the west, in the long term well that's another post.
Bush so far has not commited mass murder in the US. Of course nobody really knows how many people he killed in iraq and afghanistan because the US military is very adept at hiding those things.
To be fair though Bush just got started. He has yet to invade Iran and syria and will mostly likely kills lots of north koreans too.
Give the man some time, before he is done he may yet kill a million people or two.
"Using your logic all Mormons are dishonest and must be republicans too. "
Obviously you never took logic in school.
The facts are the facts.
People in Utah are overwhelmingly republican. Orrin Hatch is a powerful republican senator. Orrin Hatch "has ties to" the canopy group. The canopy group has hired a law firm which employs Orrin Hatch's son.
Speculation.
A republican administration, a republican controlled SEC, will not investigate a company with ties to one of the most powerful republican senators.
They live in Utah. They hired the son of the Republican senator for their counsel. I would bet solid money that they are republicans. I am pretty sure they feel immune from any SEC investigation, Orrin Hatch is a powerful senator and he can easily block any investigation as long as the Republicans hold the senate.
Here is a link http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000626S0017
Notice the phrase.
Outside observers, however, say Hatch's powerful role as head of the Senate Judiciary Committee, along with his ties to the two Utah companies, were reflected in the tone and substance of the Capitol Hill hearings, which helped pave the way for Microsoft's loss in U.S. District Court two years later.
" your phone would be fuckin' tapped. Nothing happens, they intrude your life a little, and realize you're a crank or a nut or just a weirdo, and they leave you alone. "
WRONG. Once the freerepublic.com posts your name, address, phone number and whatever else they have on you on their web site you will get death threats and maybe even be killed. If they post any financial information on you (or if it's posted on one of the bulletin boards) then you could go broke.
We were having all kinds of problems getting windows95 boxes to talk to AD. After a couple of days of trying we gave up and installed a winnt server just for them. Too bad we could not upgrade me machines but the some of the software on them did not run on windows 2000.
"Right now 'Java' is the en vogue thing to ask for on a resume. C# hasn't reached that level yet. It's still a buzzword to the HR types."
Don't you find that odd. C# has been around for almost three years now. I find it shocking that MS developers who only code for MS have not switched over to it by now.
Considering the amount of hype MS has spread around and the fact that they "bet the company" (a lie of course) on.NET you'd think they would have had widespread adoption of C# by now.
"I have to think about what I'd use to replace things like Blackbaud (school admin software - non-profits), MS ISA with Surfcontrol, or how to roll out public use Linux boxen with home directories."
"Do./ readers find Microsoft such a despicable entity that they need to post such articles to remind people that they also fail? May be it was meant as a joke, but still, very poor taste."
Get over it willya. So what? Why do you care so much? What if some corporation or another is hated, why do you care.
There are a hundred anti open source pro microsoft sites on the web. Do you go there and tell people not to spew their hatred towards open source? I don't think so.
What kind of a person defends the richest person in the world anyway? MS has huge public relationship firms to do their astroturfing, either you are being paid by them or you are a sucker. Trust me MS does not need your help and Bill Gates did not even notice your pathetic attempt to stick up for him. He certainly is not going to reward you for it.
"Still, it is never "seamless" to connect my Linux boxes to a windows network."
And it will never be. No matter how hard anybody works to do this MS will change windows to make it impossible.
Nothing can be done about it and people should not waste their time trying to do the impossible. It's better to spend that time trying to make a better linux and the hell with co-operating with windows. Remember MS has never ever tried to play nice with other technologies and it still ended up dominating the desktop.
If the adoption of Linux is slowed down by the SCO lawsuit in the US do you think it will impact the competitiveness of US companies VS foreign ones.
I think this suit has the serious potential to harm the US economy by preventing US companies from adopting cheaper and better technologies. A the same time that US industries are delaying or scaling back their open source plans Japan, China, India, and most of Europe and South America seem to be speeding ahead. What does this mean for American industry and the economy in the short, medium and long term.
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"He'd have to kill many, many more to come close to the number of Afghans murdered by the Taliban, or Iraqis murdered by the Ba'ath regeime."
Like I said give him time. I know that right now he is less evil then the taliban because the number of people he killed is less then the taliban but I am sure he will catch up and be just as evil.
"Correction: there are three camps where POWs are being held."
These people are not POWs. The US does not recognize them as such. Also they are not on US soil. US is free to do whatever it wants to them because they are acting outside US law, UN mandates, and the geneva convention. As I said you and I are not allowed to know what is going in there but I imagine it's not pretty.
"The difference is that not one of the Japanese Americans that FDR imprisoned comitted any act of agression against their fellow citizens."
Same could be said for almost 100% of the so called illegal combatants.
"Gosh, aren't you cute?
Really, this overblown rhetoric just makes you easy to dismiss."
facts are a bitch aren't they. You know you can't deny that the residents of our concentration camps are living in chain link cages smaller then the one your dog has. You know that it's wrong to do that. You know that even somebody as evil as hitler provided walls and beds for his prisoners.
Knowing all that and being unable to argue against it you call me cute and choose to dismiss me.
You can dismiss me all you want, it won't change the facts.
"We need warp drives now to expand our resources and look at other worlds. I know this is a pipe dream but I wonder how long it will take to make this a reality. Stephen Hawkings mentioned this as well when he said by 2600, all humans will be living shoulder to shoulder if we do not research and develop space technology."
Gee why don't we try easier things first. Let's start with birth control.
"So far, neither have you. Is there any reason why I should expect this to change?"
Bush has killed lots of afghanis and iraqis. I haven't killed anybody. Bush is talking like he is going to kill iranians and syrians I have never said anything like that.
"One president has in fact rounded up US citizens and put them in conentration camps for no more cause than their race, and (surprise!) it was a democrat who did it."
Bush did it too. There are at least three concentration camps that I am aware of. One in cuba, one in afghanistan, and one in quatar. These are all filled with muslims.
I don't know what is going on in any of them (damn I wish I lived in a country with a free press) but I do know that the one in cuba consisted of cells made out of chain link. They were about the size of a typical dog kennel you might buy at your local hardware store.
Say what you want about hitler he at least provided walls for his prisoners.
Here is a simple way to do that.
Make July 4th voting day. Mandate that all elections for all things be held on july 4th.
why?
1) what better way to celebrate your freedom then to vote.
2) everybody has the day off.
You couln't find anything about mormons in my posts did you?
It's OK to give up when you are so obviously wrong. It's better then trying to defend yourself which makes you look even more foolish.
I am glad the voices in your head are giving you good advice now.
It seems to me that everything Bruce praises about python also applies to most other dynamic typed scripting languages. Certainly ruby and even php or dare I say it perl.
He seems more in love with the idea of typeless, brief, dynamic and expressive languages in general. it's just that he learned python first and has gotten good at it. If he picked up Ruby first he would be saying the same things about it.
"You have no proof. So you are just slandering some Mormons which is ok because they must be repubicans in your thinking."
Why don't you do this. Why don't you go re-read all my posts on this thread and find one post in which I said anything about mormons. Go ahead I dare you.
You see now? I didn't say anything about mormons at all. If you are going to argue then you could at least have the decency to argue against the things I actually said rather then rail against the things you imagine I said. Maybe the voices in your head said bad things about mormons but that wasn't me. Got it?
I wonder how much of the earths natural resources will be be consumed to raise the standard of living for a quarter of the world's population.
All those TVs, cars, underarm deoderants, houses, carpeting, computers etc.
It will be interesting to see if they have enough water to even to get to 1/4th of our standard of living. Maybe the new dam will help.
I am pretty sure they won't have enough trees to meet their wood and paper needs so the US and Canadians will accelarate logging to meet that need. In the short term big win for the west, in the long term well that's another post.
Bush so far has not commited mass murder in the US. Of course nobody really knows how many people he killed in iraq and afghanistan because the US military is very adept at hiding those things.
To be fair though Bush just got started. He has yet to invade Iran and syria and will mostly likely kills lots of north koreans too.
Give the man some time, before he is done he may yet kill a million people or two.
"There are plenty of Dem's who are Mormons."
What part of "overwhelming majority" didn't you understand?
"However I guess you hate all Mormons because you claim they are all evil Republicans who will never in your mind go to jail by breaking the law."
Huh? Where did I say this? It's no fun to argue against the stuff I said so you are going to make stuff up huh.
"WTF Orin Hatch has to do with is sons law firm only you know apperently."
Gee let me think. A company hires your son's law firm and makes your son lots of money. I wonder if that might have some influence on you.
"It's just you have offered no proof that The Canapoy group has given the GOP or Hatch any money ever."
They are giving money to Orrin Hatch's son. I don't think these people are stupid enough to acutally bribe him directly do you?
"Using your logic all Mormons are dishonest and must be republicans too. "
Obviously you never took logic in school.
The facts are the facts.
People in Utah are overwhelmingly republican.
Orrin Hatch is a powerful republican senator.
Orrin Hatch "has ties to" the canopy group.
The canopy group has hired a law firm which employs Orrin Hatch's son.
Speculation.
A republican administration, a republican controlled SEC, will not investigate a company with ties to one of the most powerful republican senators.
Yes i'll bet money on it.
In this case I could not. You see versions of windows are not always backward compatible.
Mmmmm lets see.
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They live in Utah. They hired the son of the Republican senator for their counsel. I would bet solid money that they are republicans. I am pretty sure they feel immune from any SEC investigation, Orrin Hatch is a powerful senator and he can easily block any investigation as long as the Republicans hold the senate.
Here is a link http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20000626S001
Notice the phrase.
Outside observers, however, say Hatch's powerful role as head of the Senate Judiciary Committee, along with his ties to the two Utah companies, were reflected in the tone and substance of the Capitol Hill hearings, which helped pave the way for Microsoft's loss in U.S. District Court two years later.
You'd think MS would be smart enough to distribute a patch or something. Or would that be too much to ask?
" your phone would be fuckin' tapped. Nothing happens, they intrude your life a little, and realize you're a crank or a nut or just a weirdo, and they leave you alone. "
WRONG. Once the freerepublic.com posts your name, address, phone number and whatever else they have on you on their web site you will get death threats and maybe even be killed. If they post any financial information on you (or if it's posted on one of the bulletin boards) then you could go broke.
There is a real chance that you could die.
We were having all kinds of problems getting windows95 boxes to talk to AD. After a couple of days of trying we gave up and installed a winnt server just for them. Too bad we could not upgrade me machines but the some of the software on them did not run on windows 2000.
Windows is more fragmented then linux is.
"Right now 'Java' is the en vogue thing to ask for on a resume. C# hasn't reached that level yet. It's still a buzzword to the HR types."
.NET you'd think they would have had widespread adoption of C# by now.
Don't you find that odd. C# has been around for almost three years now. I find it shocking that MS developers who only code for MS have not switched over to it by now.
Considering the amount of hype MS has spread around and the fact that they "bet the company" (a lie of course) on
You really think the bush administration would pursue a large republican donor like the canopy group.
Really they need MS servers and domains? They can't use an LDAP server or have other authentication mechanisms?
"I have to think about what I'd use to replace things like Blackbaud (school admin software - non-profits), MS ISA with Surfcontrol, or how to roll out public use Linux boxen with home directories."
He said servers.
"Do ./ readers find Microsoft such a despicable entity that they need to post such articles to remind people that they also fail? May be it was meant as a joke, but still, very poor taste."
Get over it willya. So what? Why do you care so much? What if some corporation or another is hated, why do you care.
There are a hundred anti open source pro microsoft sites on the web. Do you go there and tell people not to spew their hatred towards open source? I don't think so.
What kind of a person defends the richest person in the world anyway? MS has huge public relationship firms to do their astroturfing, either you are being paid by them or you are a sucker. Trust me MS does not need your help and Bill Gates did not even notice your pathetic attempt to stick up for him. He certainly is not going to reward you for it.
"Still, it is never "seamless" to connect my Linux boxes to a windows network."
And it will never be. No matter how hard anybody works to do this MS will change windows to make it impossible.
Nothing can be done about it and people should not waste their time trying to do the impossible. It's better to spend that time trying to make a better linux and the hell with co-operating with windows. Remember MS has never ever tried to play nice with other technologies and it still ended up dominating the desktop.
License terms are important. It has nothing to do with emotional baggage.
If the adoption of Linux is slowed down by the SCO lawsuit in the US do you think it will impact the competitiveness of US companies VS foreign ones.
I think this suit has the serious potential to harm the US economy by preventing US companies from adopting cheaper and better technologies. A the same time that US industries are delaying or scaling back their open source plans Japan, China, India, and most of Europe and South America seem to be speeding ahead. What does this mean for American industry and the economy in the short, medium and long term.
I would love to hear your views.
" I don't remember the name of the person (and probably would get into trouble when I told you) but the company was Philips Semiconductors."
I will be sure to avoid buying any stock in that company. Thanks.