In the American Legal system. Once the police have arrested you the best possible outcome for you (presuming you are 100% innocent) is that you will lose your job and have to declare bankrupcy.
The most likely outcome is that you will lose your job, your wife will leave you, you will be bankrupt but you will be found not guilty within five years.
Worst outcome is that you will be killed in a gas chamber.
PHPs are stupid. They will make decisions based on product names and who takes them to golf. If they can't deal with peeople telling the truth (and they can't because they lie so many times every day) then so be it.
The alternative to telling the truth and calling people liars is to do nothing. Doing nothing will crush you.
In the end you are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Tell the truth and alienate the PHPs or do nothing and get crushed by MS and SCO. To me I'd rather tell the truth and go down fighting. Laying down so that Bill Gates can fuck you is not an option.
You could GPL your code and turn the copyright over to the FSF.
Of course it still might not help un the US. There is no law in the US other then "rich people do whatever they want and you can go suck Bill Gates' cock bitch"
"Sure. So? What if this dumb brick of rock could sign a $x0,000 contract if things went its way?"
Like I said I would think you could sell anything to somebody that stupid. You could put a dead rat on a stick and call it a lollipop and charge him $500.00.
God please tell me his name and the company he works for. I bet I can retire early selling shit to a nincompoop like that.
"Linux is not 'pretty' by default."
I disagree with this. KDE and GNOME are both prettier in their default installation then windows. Of course nobody beats MacOSX in that dept.
"NAMES ARE IMPORTANT."
If you are selling this as an ISV then you cna legally rename the product. The GPL does not say anything about that. Take Mysql and sell it "superduperdabase enterprise edition especially made to make you more attractive to Britney Spears" and the dumfuck braindead CIO will jump at it. Of course he may sue you when Britney Spears does not return his phone calls and his dreams of a blowjob from britney get dashed but that's another story altogether.
Anybody who won't adapt a piece of software just because of the name is dumber then a box of rocks.
You can try to defend them all you want but ignoring price, performance, scalibility, support and all other factors and rejecting a piece of software because of the name is a decision that not even Britney Spears would make.
Oooh people we standardized on visual basic.NET because that's such a cool name but we are going to reject mysql because that name is like so icky and lame. And besides Justin would never kiss a girl that deploys a silly product like Mysql. Does this.NET make my ass look fat?
"MySQL? Aww, what a cute name. Now go get us something that sounds professional." I've heard that. Literally. Twice."
Holy shit. You'd think you could anything to somebody that dumb.
Come to think about this dunce probably drives a car whose name is es450 or 750i or something like that. Just tell him it's database ab800. Thell him it's much better then the 500 series because it's faster and gets better gas milage. If he starts asking questions just tell him you have to go put the token back into the token ring network and excuse yourself.
"I think there is another point of view, and that is when India starts to emerge economically so that they are producing as a country, we will start to benefit and get jobs through them."
I think this is wildly optimistic. As the wages rise in india jobs will move to russia, turkey, nigeria or wherever it's possible to hire people for fifty cents less an hour.
The standard of living in india will rise a bit then fall as corporations move to cheaper countries. It's a classic boom and bust cycle.
You are too stupid to understand any facts. Your mind is unable to grasp complexity. Anything more complex then a bumper sticker slogan goes right above your head.
I know I should not expect much from a marine but for gods sake talking to you is like talking to dead fly. I swear to god my dog is smarter then you are.
Go read a book or something. Maybe you should read Quigleys book. That way you can at least critize it after you read it.
"You ignore facts and draw your own conclusion with that holier than thou attitude with out ever having to sacrifice anything."
I know I said it like five times but here we go again. You used depeleted uranium armament. That's a war crime. You deliberately targeted civilian infrastructure. That's a war crime.
Those are simple facts and simple conclusions even you ought to be able to follow them.
"Fool, that's war."
I keep forgetting that I am speaking with an evil person. But here we go again.
There is a difference between war and war crimes. It's possible to wage war and not commit war crimes. It's also possible to avoid going to war in the first place.
You went to war without exhausting all possible peaceful means and you commited war crimes.
"What a fool, UN resolution 1441 acknowledged they were a failure. That's why the UN voted passed 1441, check your facts."
the UN resolution passed because we twisted the arms of many countries. Check your facts.
"Hypocrite, that's violation of international law. Again you speak out of pure ignorance and sense of reality."
Once again you are a truly evil person. When presented with a range of options you choose the most evil one. The one that will cause the most suffering to most people. For example if I said you had three choices.
1) capture saddam hussein and try him the Hauge. 2) Assasinate him 3) wage war
your choice would be "We should wage war, commit war crimes, target civillian infrastructre AND try to assisane him all the same time. It makes no sense to just do one evil thing we should do all evil things possible"
Just yesterday we assassinated both of his sons.
"My God you're a fool, still again I'm skeptical about you being a Vet with comments like this."
I don't know what you did with the 13 year old boys there. Maybe you raped them, maybe you used them for target practice, maybe you cut off their ears and made a necklace. you keep repeatedly saying that you can do whatever you want because "it's war". You must have said that 10 times in this discussion. It's obvious that one you declare war all moral distinctions and sense of humanity goes out the window.
"We don't care if the butcher continues violating the cease fire agreement. We don't care if he invaded, raped, pillage, and conducted a scorched earth policy."
We do care. It's just that the solution is not to scorch the iraqi earth and rape and pillage the iraqi people. You are no different the saddam hussein.
"I was giving an example of how Slick Willy gave up out technical edge. How he was in bed with China after accusing the first Bush of being to close to China. Let's look at what I posted"
Once again you retarded monkey.
There is nothing legally or morally wrong with buying and selling chinese products. China is not an enemy, they are not at war with us. They are a most favored nation when it comes to trading. They are helping us negotiate with north korea.
US is not some sort of a world leader in technology. The chinese could have bought computers form anywhere including japan, korea, taiwan, and europe.
I don't know what kind of a racist rage you have against the chinese but get over it. You probably have at least a dozen products that were made in china and I guarantee that before you die you will work for a company who sells to china.
racist ignorant people like you really piss me off.
"Total income tax collected in the 80's went from $312 Bil to $349"
So what's your point? Reagan raised taxes? So what? Why don't you actually make an argument. Do you know what that means? For example say "the taxes collected in the 80s went up by 1 percent therefore the moon is made out of green cheese". Because you keep drawing insane conclusions based on crappy and incomplete data.
You honestly think that one stat held out out of context expresses the state of the economy? You honestly think that the measurem
Wow imagine that. A browser to make surfing easier and more pleasant for you. As opposed to a browser whose main purpose is to make you load MSN 50 times a day so they can sell more advetising.
Only after commiting war crimes by bombing civillian infrastructure and using depleted uranium weapons.
"So what would you do, bury your head and hope Saddam becomes a man of peace?"
unlike you I have higher order thinking powers. I can see more then two options and more then two possible causes of action. You only see two. Do nothing or commit war crimes.
"No it's not, it's messy, bloody and horrific, that is why it is to be avoided."
There is a difference between war and war crimes. When you were there killing people did you also rape 13 year old boys? Why not? It's war right? Did you loot and steal? Why not? It's war right? It's one thing to wage war it's another to commit war crimes. You apparently don't know the difference and are willing to do anything to anybody as long as "it's war".
Also war was not the last option. It was the first and only option on the table. No peaceful methods were explored or tried.
"Your hypocrisy knows no bounds."
No you dumb ape. It's a different scenario altogether. We did not invade, we did not impose an unelected puppet of our choice as leaders, we did not take over their oil wells or other natural resources, we did not commit war crimes. As soon as they surrendered we turned the country over to a UN peace keeping force and held war crimes trials in the Hauge. We certainly did not round up people and locked them in chain link cages in a concentration camp in Cuba. Even Hitler provided walls for his prisioners.
"So Bill Clinton had no justification either?"
Bill Clinton did not bomb bagdad. He did not target civillian infrastructure. If he did he would have justification either.
"I never stated that I held the Iraqi people responsible."
You didn't say it. You did it. You held them responsible by destroying their water treatment and power facilities, roads, bridges and hospitals. You punished all of the iraqi people.
"What would your solution be, nothing? Give me a solution."
Start with inspections, they were going along just fine. If thhey did not succeed then maybe assassination of the top leaders. If it still did not solve the problem a multi national peace keeping force. How about a reigonal solution involving neighbors of iraq? How about funding and supporting the shiites or other opposition? I thought all of that up in 30 seconds! Imagine if I had a month to think about it.
"With the comments like all of my army buddies and when our bloodlust is satisfied.... I am highly sceptical that you are a veteran."
I was in the Air Force. We were allowed to think. What do you get when you cross a marine and an ape? A dump ape.
"If you are one you'd know that we're the last ones that want to go to war."
You seemed to enjoy it quite a bit. So much that you are chomping at the bit for more war and lands to invade and conquer.
"You're so ignorant to think that's all it was about."
And you have drank too much Kool Aid if you think there was another reason.
"So I take it from this comment you support doing nothing? Bury our heads in the sand and hope it will go away? "
once again. Unlike you the dumb ape I have higher order thinking powers. I can think of more then just two possibilities.
"As for China,"
Ooooh we sold computer to china. Shiver me timbers that clinton must be some kind of evil to sell computer to china. Why if we did not sell them I am sure china would not have any computers at all.
Listen you retarded fuckwad. China is not an enemy of the United States. They have never been at war with us. They have been and are a most favored nation for trading purposes. Chinese goods are sold in this country every day and every single major corporation in the US has offices in china. You want to freak out because the US sold some computers to china? What the fuck for? China is helping us deal with North korea right now. You really think nobody in the
Jesus christ you are paying for adobe premier and server 2003 and you are worried about cheaper? Anybody who has 600+ to throw around software does not give a shit about saving 20 bucks on XP. What is that like a thousand dollars on software alone!
" I use it for mail, web browsing, instant messaging, word processing in OpenOffice, and many other tasks. I do also intend to do Linux development once I finish my reading on Qt and GTK+ (again, the right tool for the job). But right now, using it as an everyday machine isn't feasible."
What else do you do every day? DO you use premiere every day? I guess you must.
Still though since only about 1% of the computer users use premiere and since linux is perfectly fine for all those other uses you list then it's probably ready for the other 99% of the people in the world.
BTW windows 2003 is nothing like windows CE. Windows CE is pretty shitty even by MS standards. They are so desparate to get people to use it they are giving it away. In fact they are actually paying these cable companies to use CE. MS owns a big chunk of stock in a lot of cable companies. Billions of dollars worth.
"Seriously, though, is this where X-Box was supposed to go? "
It is. Comcast will be stabbed in the back like all previous MS partners. MS will partner with them, learn the business, steal lots of ideas, then stab them in back and crush them like grapes.
"There are also costs such as training and lost productivity. While Linux and the BSDs are excellent server OSes, I hope the Australian government would think long and hard before adopting them for workstation use."
Personally I think this is a win for linux on the desktop. It's easier to maintain and lock down linux based desktops. It's also easier to mass update them or mass configure them. If you are using the desktops as Xterms then it's easier still.
In the end though freedom will override any additional costs you may have. Freedom to switch vendors whenever you choose, freedom to upgrade on your schedule, freedom to choose who you buy your support from, and finally freedom from mainting a licencing database and being under constant threats of audits.
I need not mention how much the local IT sector would benefit from a switch to OSS on the desktops. Instead of your money going to the pockets of US billionaires it stays in your country helping your economy and your own citizens.
Why would you not use OSS? Even if openoffice is not as good as MS office the secondary benefits and the cost savings should be compelling reason to switch. Is MS office THAT much better that it's worth send $400 per desktop to the US?
Even if you decide to use windows on the desktop you can mandate openoffice and mozilla (office to save money, mozilla to prepare your users for an eventual switch).
You can also mandate a slew of server side technology without incurring costly retraining. You secratary does not care if the database that is running the accounting system is postgres or SQL server, neither does she care if the web site is running IIS or Apache. There is no real reason to use MS servers. If the govt did nothing but mandate OSS on servers it would be a huge start.
AA does not mandate. Mandates and quotas are illegal. AA does however allow you to weigh in factor as one factor (out of many) in hiring a person.
Of course in most cases race is already a factor. Racism (in the US anyway) is pandemic. AA attempts to offset the negative bias a white hiring manager is likely to have against a dark skinned candidate.
A lot of people are against AA but I have never heard any of them claim that Racism or sexism does not exist anymore. Their arguments seem to be "we know that racism exists but nobody should do anything about it". They claim that AA should not exist and people should not be allowed to sue for racial discrimination. This sentiment can be more concisely expressed as "shut up and sit down nigger/bitch/spic/fag/kike".
"are a lot of good C string APIs and using one that stops buffer overflows is trivial."
And yet almost nobody uses them. Why? Maybe because they have a steep learning curve, maybe it's because they have performance penalties associated with them. Even if you were to use a string library you'd still have to roll your own garbage collection and overrun protection. Why bother? There are many languages which do all of that for you so that you can concentrate on other things. It makes no sense to keep using C and piling on other libraries when you can simply use Java, cyclone, eiffel, python or anything else for that matter.
" In your opinion, in my opinion having the people who implement the code design the code makes for a much better result."
You are entitled to your opinion of course. I disagree. It's virtually impossible for one person to do everything. People have to learn to work in teams if you want to accomplish big goals. Sometimes that means doing crud work.
"Many people die in war, that is why it is only to be used as a last resort and to be avoided."
I see that I am dealing with a person of very low morality. Apparently you feel no empathy towards the tens of thousands of people who died due to your actions. Ok I get that. Not everbody holds the same moral background. But do you really think that all peaceful alternatives were seriously considered and tried before we went to war? If you do then you are amongst the 1% of the people who think that. The rest of humanity knows that war was the first and only option on the table.
"First of all we went over to remove them from Kuwait, and we did."
You have taken too much of Kool Aid to be able to see the situation objectively. If your only goal was to remove Iraqis from Kuwait you would have stopped when they were beaten back. There would be no reason to bomb Bagdhad. There certainly was no reason to puporfully target civillian infrastructre like water treatment plants and power generation plants.
"With your reasoning people should not be held accountable? "
No I did not say that. I said that you held them responsible by bombing the shit out of them and making them suffer for over a decade. Who held you responsible for your actions? Nobody. I just want somebody to hold you responsible just you you held countless sick and starving children responsible for the actions of saddam hussein. Fair don't you think?
"I've shead blood for my country, what have you done? I've fought along side people liberating their country, what have you done? It's arrogant to believe people who serve in the military, or have served are blood thursty war mongers. We are the last ones who want to go to war, it's our blood that is spilled. This statement again shows ignorance of reality."
Fuck you pompous bastard. First of all I am a veteran too. Lucky for me I got out before I had to kill for oil. Second of all while you were out there killing by the truckload I was busting my ass paying your way. My hard earned money went to ship you over there, paid for your food, paid for your bullets, paid for your bombs, paid for your airplanes. Fuck you and fuck you again. You in the military are supposed to be a servant of the civillians. Where do you get off mouthing off to the citizens who pay way motherfucker. The military works for the citizenry.
"Yes there are millions of people who suffer in the world. This is a wake up call for those piss ant dictators who slaughter their people for thier own perverted kicks. If you sit around and do nothing they will continue their actions because they know no one will do anything. Slick Willy really prevented N. Korea from developing Nukes by buying them off didn't he? Wake up! Reality what a concept."
As I guessed. You are willing to invade every country in the world run by a dictator. You are gleefully waiting to slaughter millions of people because you want to get a hard on with your hand on the trigger. Good fucking luck.
"We get most of our oil from S. America, not the Middle East. "
Not for long. Pretty soon now we will get most of our oil at below market from Iraq. That's why we went to war so that we would not have to buy oil from Saudi Arabia anymore. Not only are we going to get oil cheap but for the next decade or so we are actually going to take a cut of all oil sales out of iraq to "pay for the reconstruction" which meand lining the pockets of american corporations run by buddies of george bush.
"No I'm not, but the evidence is there he was assisting and supporting. But that was not the reason for the resumption of hostilities."
You said it. you justified the war because of 9/11. You brought it up. You must think the two are related otherwise you would not have mentioned it. Again drinking too much of the kool aid I think.
"MMM mobile bio weapons lab"
With no trace of chemical or biological agents? You are a dolt if you believed that those "labs" produced anything more dangerous then clorox.
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In the American Legal system. Once the police have arrested you the best possible outcome for you (presuming you are 100% innocent) is that you will lose your job and have to declare bankrupcy.
The most likely outcome is that you will lose your job, your wife will leave you, you will be bankrupt but you will be found not guilty within five years.
Worst outcome is that you will be killed in a gas chamber.
PHPs are stupid. They will make decisions based on product names and who takes them to golf. If they can't deal with peeople telling the truth (and they can't because they lie so many times every day) then so be it.
The alternative to telling the truth and calling people liars is to do nothing. Doing nothing will crush you.
In the end you are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Tell the truth and alienate the PHPs or do nothing and get crushed by MS and SCO. To me I'd rather tell the truth and go down fighting. Laying down so that Bill Gates can fuck you is not an option.
You could GPL your code and turn the copyright over to the FSF.
Of course it still might not help un the US. There is no law in the US other then "rich people do whatever they want and you can go suck Bill Gates' cock bitch"
"Sure. So? What if this dumb brick of rock could sign a $x0,000 contract if things went its way?"
Like I said I would think you could sell anything to somebody that stupid. You could put a dead rat on a stick and call it a lollipop and charge him $500.00.
God please tell me his name and the company he works for. I bet I can retire early selling shit to a nincompoop like that.
"Linux is not 'pretty' by default."
I disagree with this. KDE and GNOME are both prettier in their default installation then windows. Of course nobody beats MacOSX in that dept.
"NAMES ARE IMPORTANT."
If you are selling this as an ISV then you cna legally rename the product. The GPL does not say anything about that. Take Mysql and sell it "superduperdabase enterprise edition especially made to make you more attractive to Britney Spears" and the dumfuck braindead CIO will jump at it. Of course he may sue you when Britney Spears does not return his phone calls and his dreams of a blowjob from britney get dashed but that's another story altogether.
Anybody who won't adapt a piece of software just because of the name is dumber then a box of rocks.
.NET because that's such a cool name but we are going to reject mysql because that name is like so icky and lame. And besides Justin would never kiss a girl that deploys a silly product like Mysql. Does this .NET make my ass look fat?
You can try to defend them all you want but ignoring price, performance, scalibility, support and all other factors and rejecting a piece of software because of the name is a decision that not even Britney Spears would make.
Oooh people we standardized on visual basic
"MySQL? Aww, what a cute name. Now go get us something that sounds professional." I've heard that. Literally. Twice."
Holy shit. You'd think you could anything to somebody that dumb.
Come to think about this dunce probably drives a car whose name is es450 or 750i or something like that. Just tell him it's database ab800. Thell him it's much better then the 500 series because it's faster and gets better gas milage. If he starts asking questions just tell him you have to go put the token back into the token ring network and excuse yourself.
"I think there is another point of view, and that is when India starts to emerge economically so that they are producing as a country, we will start to benefit and get jobs through them."
I think this is wildly optimistic. As the wages rise in india jobs will move to russia, turkey, nigeria or wherever it's possible to hire people for fifty cents less an hour.
The standard of living in india will rise a bit then fall as corporations move to cheaper countries. It's a classic boom and bust cycle.
Wow I didn't know Cecil Rhodes was a republican. That's very interesting.
But really I see what you are saying now. Cecil was an evil man for sure.
Of course that also makes anybody who wins a rhodes scholarship evil.
Since Cecil was also an englishmen this means that all englishmen are evil too.
Ooops Cecil was also a white person so all white people are evil too.
Damn Cecil was also a male so all males are evil too.
Whew, that cecil was so evil he contaminated the entire world and made you evil.
Damn that man.
You are too stupid to understand any facts. Your mind is unable to grasp complexity. Anything more complex then a bumper sticker slogan goes right above your head.
I know I should not expect much from a marine but for gods sake talking to you is like talking to dead fly. I swear to god my dog is smarter then you are.
Go read a book or something. Maybe you should read Quigleys book. That way you can at least critize it after you read it.
Regardless. You are still abusing the moderation system. It should be easy enough to prevent people from moderating the same author twice.
I wonder if sony can sue MS in japan. Surely Ms does not have enough money to buy the united states and japan.
I must admit though that they bought the united states for pretty cheap.
Also glacier national park. It will change you for ever.
"You ignore facts and draw your own conclusion with that holier than thou attitude with out ever having to sacrifice anything."
I know I said it like five times but here we go again. You used depeleted uranium armament. That's a war crime. You deliberately targeted civilian infrastructure. That's a war crime.
Those are simple facts and simple conclusions even you ought to be able to follow them.
"Fool, that's war."
I keep forgetting that I am speaking with an evil person. But here we go again.
There is a difference between war and war crimes. It's possible to wage war and not commit war crimes. It's also possible to avoid going to war in the first place.
You went to war without exhausting all possible peaceful means and you commited war crimes.
"What a fool, UN resolution 1441 acknowledged they were a failure. That's why the UN voted passed 1441, check your facts."
the UN resolution passed because we twisted the arms of many countries. Check your facts.
"Hypocrite, that's violation of international law. Again you speak out of pure ignorance and sense of reality."
Once again you are a truly evil person. When presented with a range of options you choose the most evil one. The one that will cause the most suffering to most people. For example if I said you had three choices.
1) capture saddam hussein and try him the Hauge.
2) Assasinate him
3) wage war
your choice would be "We should wage war, commit war crimes, target civillian infrastructre AND try to assisane him all the same time. It makes no sense to just do one evil thing we should do all evil things possible"
Just yesterday we assassinated both of his sons.
"My God you're a fool, still again I'm skeptical about you being a Vet with comments like this."
I don't know what you did with the 13 year old boys there. Maybe you raped them, maybe you used them for target practice, maybe you cut off their ears and made a necklace. you keep repeatedly saying that you can do whatever you want because "it's war". You must have said that 10 times in this discussion. It's obvious that one you declare war all moral distinctions and sense of humanity goes out the window.
"We don't care if the butcher continues violating the cease fire agreement. We don't care if he invaded, raped, pillage, and conducted a scorched earth policy."
We do care. It's just that the solution is not to scorch the iraqi earth and rape and pillage the iraqi people. You are no different the saddam hussein.
"I was giving an example of how Slick Willy gave up out technical edge. How he was in bed with China after accusing the first Bush of being to close to China. Let's look at what I posted"
Once again you retarded monkey.
There is nothing legally or morally wrong with buying and selling chinese products. China is not an enemy, they are not at war with us. They are a most favored nation when it comes to trading. They are helping us negotiate with north korea.
US is not some sort of a world leader in technology. The chinese could have bought computers form anywhere including japan, korea, taiwan, and europe.
I don't know what kind of a racist rage you have against the chinese but get over it. You probably have at least a dozen products that were made in china and I guarantee that before you die you will work for a company who sells to china.
racist ignorant people like you really piss me off.
"Total income tax collected in the 80's went from $312 Bil to $349"
So what's your point? Reagan raised taxes? So what? Why don't you actually make an argument. Do you know what that means? For example say "the taxes collected in the 80s went up by 1 percent therefore the moon is made out of green cheese". Because you keep drawing insane conclusions based on crappy and incomplete data.
You honestly think that one stat held out out of context expresses the state of the economy? You honestly think that the measurem
Mmmm This seems to me like an abuse of the moderation system. Maybe I'll report you.
I guess this explains why neo facists like Ann Coulter get so much airtime.
I would think so. Especially considering that Blair is Bush's poodle.
Wow imagine that. A browser to make surfing easier and more pleasant for you. As opposed to a browser whose main purpose is to make you load MSN 50 times a day so they can sell more advetising.
"We did as per the cease fire agreement in 91"
Only after commiting war crimes by bombing civillian infrastructure and using depleted uranium weapons.
"So what would you do, bury your head and hope Saddam becomes a man of peace?"
unlike you I have higher order thinking powers. I can see more then two options and more then two possible causes of action. You only see two. Do nothing or commit war crimes.
"No it's not, it's messy, bloody and horrific, that is why it is to be avoided."
There is a difference between war and war crimes. When you were there killing people did you also rape 13 year old boys? Why not? It's war right? Did you loot and steal? Why not? It's war right? It's one thing to wage war it's another to commit war crimes. You apparently don't know the difference and are willing to do anything to anybody as long as "it's war".
Also war was not the last option. It was the first and only option on the table. No peaceful methods were explored or tried.
"Your hypocrisy knows no bounds."
No you dumb ape. It's a different scenario altogether. We did not invade, we did not impose an unelected puppet of our choice as leaders, we did not take over their oil wells or other natural resources, we did not commit war crimes. As soon as they surrendered we turned the country over to a UN peace keeping force and held war crimes trials in the Hauge. We certainly did not round up people and locked them in chain link cages in a concentration camp in Cuba. Even Hitler provided walls for his prisioners.
"So Bill Clinton had no justification either?"
Bill Clinton did not bomb bagdad. He did not target civillian infrastructure. If he did he would have justification either.
"I never stated that I held the Iraqi people responsible."
You didn't say it. You did it. You held them responsible by destroying their water treatment and power facilities, roads, bridges and hospitals. You punished all of the iraqi people.
"What would your solution be, nothing? Give me a solution."
Start with inspections, they were going along just fine. If thhey did not succeed then maybe assassination of the top leaders. If it still did not solve the problem a multi national peace keeping force. How about a reigonal solution involving neighbors of iraq? How about funding and supporting the shiites or other opposition? I thought all of that up in 30 seconds! Imagine if I had a month to think about it.
"With the comments like all of my army buddies and when our bloodlust is satisfied.... I am highly sceptical that you are a veteran."
I was in the Air Force. We were allowed to think. What do you get when you cross a marine and an ape? A dump ape.
"If you are one you'd know that we're the last ones that want to go to war."
You seemed to enjoy it quite a bit. So much that you are chomping at the bit for more war and lands to invade and conquer.
"You're so ignorant to think that's all it was about."
And you have drank too much Kool Aid if you think there was another reason.
"So I take it from this comment you support doing nothing? Bury our heads in the sand and hope it will go away? "
once again. Unlike you the dumb ape I have higher order thinking powers. I can think of more then just two possibilities.
"As for China,"
Ooooh we sold computer to china. Shiver me timbers that clinton must be some kind of evil to sell computer to china. Why if we did not sell them I am sure china would not have any computers at all.
Listen you retarded fuckwad. China is not an enemy of the United States. They have never been at war with us. They have been and are a most favored nation for trading purposes. Chinese goods are sold in this country every day and every single major corporation in the US has offices in china. You want to freak out because the US sold some computers to china? What the fuck for? China is helping us deal with North korea right now. You really think nobody in the
Didn't MS give AT&T 10 billion dollars in 2000 to use windows on their set up box? You just might be using MS software now.
Jesus christ you are paying for adobe premier and server 2003 and you are worried about cheaper? Anybody who has 600+ to throw around software does not give a shit about saving 20 bucks on XP. What is that like a thousand dollars on software alone!
" I use it for mail, web browsing, instant messaging, word processing in OpenOffice, and many other tasks. I do also intend to do Linux development once I finish my reading on Qt and GTK+ (again, the right tool for the job). But right now, using it as an everyday machine isn't feasible."
What else do you do every day? DO you use premiere every day? I guess you must.
Still though since only about 1% of the computer users use premiere and since linux is perfectly fine for all those other uses you list then it's probably ready for the other 99% of the people in the world.
BTW windows 2003 is nothing like windows CE. Windows CE is pretty shitty even by MS standards. They are so desparate to get people to use it they are giving it away. In fact they are actually paying these cable companies to use CE. MS owns a big chunk of stock in a lot of cable companies. Billions of dollars worth.
"Seriously, though, is this where X-Box was supposed to go? "
It is. Comcast will be stabbed in the back like all previous MS partners. MS will partner with them, learn the business, steal lots of ideas, then stab them in back and crush them like grapes.
Some people never learn.
"There are also costs such as training and lost productivity. While Linux and the BSDs are excellent server OSes, I hope the Australian government would think long and hard before adopting them for workstation use."
Personally I think this is a win for linux on the desktop. It's easier to maintain and lock down linux based desktops. It's also easier to mass update them or mass configure them. If you are using the desktops as Xterms then it's easier still.
In the end though freedom will override any additional costs you may have. Freedom to switch vendors whenever you choose, freedom to upgrade on your schedule, freedom to choose who you buy your support from, and finally freedom from mainting a licencing database and being under constant threats of audits.
I need not mention how much the local IT sector would benefit from a switch to OSS on the desktops. Instead of your money going to the pockets of US billionaires it stays in your country helping your economy and your own citizens.
Why would you not use OSS? Even if openoffice is not as good as MS office the secondary benefits and the cost savings should be compelling reason to switch. Is MS office THAT much better that it's worth send $400 per desktop to the US?
Even if you decide to use windows on the desktop you can mandate openoffice and mozilla (office to save money, mozilla to prepare your users for an eventual switch).
You can also mandate a slew of server side technology without incurring costly retraining. You secratary does not care if the database that is running the accounting system is postgres or SQL server, neither does she care if the web site is running IIS or Apache. There is no real reason to use MS servers. If the govt did nothing but mandate OSS on servers it would be a huge start.
AA does not mandate. Mandates and quotas are illegal. AA does however allow you to weigh in factor as one factor (out of many) in hiring a person.
Of course in most cases race is already a factor. Racism (in the US anyway) is pandemic. AA attempts to offset the negative bias a white hiring manager is likely to have against a dark skinned candidate.
A lot of people are against AA but I have never heard any of them claim that Racism or sexism does not exist anymore. Their arguments seem to be "we know that racism exists but nobody should do anything about it". They claim that AA should not exist and people should not be allowed to sue for racial discrimination. This sentiment can be more concisely expressed as "shut up and sit down nigger/bitch/spic/fag/kike".
"are a lot of good C string APIs and using one that stops buffer overflows is trivial."
And yet almost nobody uses them. Why? Maybe because they have a steep learning curve, maybe it's because they have performance penalties associated with them. Even if you were to use a string library you'd still have to roll your own garbage collection and overrun protection. Why bother? There are many languages which do all of that for you so that you can concentrate on other things. It makes no sense to keep using C and piling on other libraries when you can simply use Java, cyclone, eiffel, python or anything else for that matter.
" In your opinion, in my opinion having the people who implement the code design the code makes for a much better result."
You are entitled to your opinion of course. I disagree. It's virtually impossible for one person to do everything. People have to learn to work in teams if you want to accomplish big goals. Sometimes that means doing crud work.
"Many people die in war, that is why it is only to be used as a last resort and to be avoided."
I see that I am dealing with a person of very low morality. Apparently you feel no empathy towards the tens of thousands of people who died due to your actions. Ok I get that. Not everbody holds the same moral background. But do you really think that all peaceful alternatives were seriously considered and tried before we went to war? If you do then you are amongst the 1% of the people who think that. The rest of humanity knows that war was the first and only option on the table.
"First of all we went over to remove them from Kuwait, and we did."
You have taken too much of Kool Aid to be able to see the situation objectively. If your only goal was to remove Iraqis from Kuwait you would have stopped when they were beaten back. There would be no reason to bomb Bagdhad. There certainly was no reason to puporfully target civillian infrastructre like water treatment plants and power generation plants.
"With your reasoning people should not be held accountable? "
No I did not say that. I said that you held them responsible by bombing the shit out of them and making them suffer for over a decade. Who held you responsible for your actions? Nobody. I just want somebody to hold you responsible just you you held countless sick and starving children responsible for the actions of saddam hussein. Fair don't you think?
"I've shead blood for my country, what have you done? I've fought along side people liberating their country, what have you done? It's arrogant to believe people who serve in the military, or have served are blood thursty war mongers. We are the last ones who want to go to war, it's our blood that is spilled. This statement again shows ignorance of reality."
Fuck you pompous bastard. First of all I am a veteran too. Lucky for me I got out before I had to kill for oil. Second of all while you were out there killing by the truckload I was busting my ass paying your way. My hard earned money went to ship you over there, paid for your food, paid for your bullets, paid for your bombs, paid for your airplanes. Fuck you and fuck you again. You in the military are supposed to be a servant of the civillians. Where do you get off mouthing off to the citizens who pay way motherfucker. The military works for the citizenry.
"Yes there are millions of people who suffer in the world. This is a wake up call for those piss ant dictators who slaughter their people for thier own perverted kicks. If you sit around and do nothing they will continue their actions because they know no one will do anything. Slick Willy really prevented N. Korea from developing Nukes by buying them off didn't he? Wake up! Reality what a concept."
As I guessed. You are willing to invade every country in the world run by a dictator. You are gleefully waiting to slaughter millions of people because you want to get a hard on with your hand on the trigger. Good fucking luck.
"We get most of our oil from S. America, not the Middle East. "
Not for long. Pretty soon now we will get most of our oil at below market from Iraq. That's why we went to war so that we would not have to buy oil from Saudi Arabia anymore. Not only are we going to get oil cheap but for the next decade or so we are actually going to take a cut of all oil sales out of iraq to "pay for the reconstruction" which meand lining the pockets of american corporations run by buddies of george bush.
"No I'm not, but the evidence is there he was assisting and supporting. But that was not the reason for the resumption of hostilities."
You said it. you justified the war because of 9/11. You brought it up. You must think the two are related otherwise you would not have mentioned it. Again drinking too much of the kool aid I think.
"MMM mobile bio weapons lab"
With no trace of chemical or biological agents? You are a dolt if you believed that those "labs" produced anything more dangerous then clorox.