All of that means that all corporation will eventually be forced to migrate to AD whether they like it or not. How corporations pay to get their options taken away from them and make themselves bitches for MS never ceases to amaze me. The CIOs of america are awfully fond of saying "thank you sir may I have another!".
The indexing system in W2K is just about useless. I have it turned on and when I ask it to find a file given it's name it still takes over a minute to return answers. On linux or freebsd type in "locate filaname" and you get your answer instantly. I don't know what it does but it sure as hell can't find files fast. Like almost everything MS makes "it makes a lot of promises but delivers almost nothing"
How you shop is just as important as how you vote if not more so.
Shopping is something you do every day voting is once a year (if you show up for local elections).
Shopping effects corporations which are more powerful then the govt and for all practical purposes own the govt. How you spend your dollars has a much bigger impact on the composition of your community and country then how you vote.
Unfortunately the number of people who are mindful of their spending is smaller then the number of people who vote.
So you agree with me that you had your tenses mixed up. You meant to say that one day there will be a cross platform ASP.NET. I distinctly remember you saying that there was already one which is not true.
I still say it makes no sense teach.NET because by the time the student graduates MS will have dumped it and moved on the new acronym of the day. It will be useless knowledge. MS has a habit of "betting the company" on a new product every two years.
Oh come now you are not really considering a beta release of a bare bones CLR to the real thing not are you. That's like releaseing screen shots and calling it an application.
"Java's exactly the same."
Java has been out for a long time now without significant changes to the core language. Better libraries have been added yes but the old code still runs even if it's calling depreciated methods.
I think you got your tenses a bit mixed up. There is no implementation of the CLR for freebsd or linux. There is no *nix version of ASP.NET. Both mono and.gnu are in the very early stages of implementation. One day maybe they will succeed in doing these things but by then MS will have dumped the technology and moved on to the next new thing.
Honestly I can't see why any school would switch from teaching java to teaching something that's a little more then a marketing term of a company which is known to be fickle. Especially considering it has not proven itself yet.
I think the cost will be many times that when you consider the endless upgrade cycle you are on. Typical corporate desktop has a licence for windows, one for NT server, one for SQL server and one for office. That's much more then 100 to 200. If you add terminal server they you are paying more on top of that. Not to mention the outragous per processor internet connect fees for the database server.
I don't know what planet you live in but on my planet I have never heard anybody say that it's going to be costless. You are either severly misinformed or are rather fond of lying. You are also under the impression that everything is analyzable by doing a cost benefit analysis. Unfortunately it's awfully hard to measure the cost of a dead human or worse yet a dead coral reef. A lot of the costs won't even materialize till some point in the future.
Coral are dying, plankton are dying, species are being wiped out, glaciers are melting, and the cost of all that is exactly zero. A fish living in the sea is worthless to an economist or a republican. Only when that fish is killed and sold by a fishmonger is it worth anything. You can not always do a cost benefit analysis sometimes you have to do the right and moral thing for you, your nation, your planet, and your children's children even it means it costs more.
Here let me tell you it's going to cost an arm and a leg to certain industries. Too fucking bad. Other industries will make a ton of money. Bloody fucking great. In the long run I don't know if more money will be made then lost but I do know more humans will live better lives, will have less diseases, will be healthier and happier if we take concrete steps to clean up our air, waters, and save out forests and wildlife.
Do you know who the company was? If not then they did not get hurt at all. None of what you said effects them if they can muzzle the employees before, during and after.
An enviromentally focused engineer will do jack shit. He/She works for a corporation and answers to shareholders. He might work his entire life and accomplish nothing except to publish a couple of patents and maybe make hos boss some money. That's what he is there for.
The protester is a volunteer. He will make a stink, he will cause some people to change their behaviour. That will make an impact. Why do you think republican organizations spend millions to try and counteract the protestors? Why do you think the media villifies them so much? It's because they protester represents a real and tangible threat to the the status quo.
"If only it were that simple. The fact is that any scientist who releases findings, models, and predictions that go against the accepted norm wrt: global warming no longer has a career or reputation - regardless of the validity of the findings, models, and predictions."
Yo have to be kidding me. Any scientist who disclaims global warming will have money thrown at him left and right from convervative media like fox, msnbc, cnbc etc. Also they are sure to have a best seller. And republican thinktanks will pay them big money to go on the lecture circuit. Conservaitve foundations will give them HUGE money to do further "research" to disprove global warning.
People stand to lose big money if global warming is for real and they will spend to disprove it.
So what do you do? Throw up your hands and say oh well we are all going to die? Even if the changes are caused MOSTLY by external things should we compound the problem or attempt to overcome it?
In America rape is the punishment for every crime. End up jail? get raped.
The reason for this is of course the citizens want it that way. When they think of criminals they think murderers and to them they deserve to get rape. They don't think of a poor slob who got caught with a joint or held up a 7-11.
If everybody did it then there would be no consequences except to the company that chose to use and insecure email client. What is needed is an organized effort to block email from outlook by everybody. You could send back a message explaining that they are endengering themselves, their company, and the entire world by using outlook too.
You are way overstating. Just use eudora for email it's free and has all the features you need. There must a dozen free email readers on the net that run on windows. No cost, no hardware upgrade, no OS change. Just ban outlook for email. You can do this right at the server by looking for the agent string.
If you had balls then you would not accept email from outlook for incoming mail too.
Bundling in this case is the same as dumping. The fact is that MS practices illegal dumping of software. They give away products (actually they hide the cost in the OS) that other people are charging for. That's what killed Netscape.
Dumping is illegal for everybody else except MS that's because MS owns the govt. Who would have thought our grand experiment in democracy would have ended up being dismantled so easily. Fuck Osama, Bill gates is the biggest enemy of democracy.
"What MS wants to do with.NET, etc doesnt exisit. They are making it exisit. "
Whoa there nelly. I know you are a MS troll and all but take a step back please. You are actually saying it was impossible to run bits of code on different machines before.NET arrived?.NET is a rip off of java and java existed before.NET.
OK I know MS likes to stick the.NET lable on anything it wants to. There will be.NET shoes and.NET ham sandwiches and what not but at it's core it's just another RPC mechanism.
Unless of course you mean.NET the acronym/hype of the day. That I grant you they are making exist.
Your grandmother and her ilk are stupid. To be fair most of the world is stupid so in that they are not alone. As a part of the stupid masses they pay what I call "the stupidity tax". They pay this tax in mryiad of ways.
1) By paying more then smart people for everything from hardware and software to food and drugs.
2) Paying more taxes then smart people.
3) By having their privacy invaded and their information bought and sold by everybody from their banks to their doctors.
4) By being forced to view ads shoved on to their desktops by IE, realplayer etc. They are too stupid to config IE so they get to go MSN anytime they make a spelling mistake for example.
Smart people install junkbusters, ipchains, proxomitron, zonealarm etc to protect themselves.
Sometimes even the smart people have to pay the stupidity tax. For example both FedEx and UPS collect information on who sent stuff to you and who you send stuff to. They then sell this information to people who collect and correlate this data. These people then re-sell that information to anybody who wants to know things about you that even you forgot. For less then thirty dollars I can tell you how much your mothers ex husband bought his new house. The reason for that is that even we are not smart enough. Certainly not smart enough to vote for stronger privacy right or fight for our privacy.
Well in this case we need the govt to protect us from the corporations. The corporations got us into this mess so it's unreasonable to expect them to get us out. I guess the govt is the only hammer we have left. That and open source.
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All of that means that all corporation will eventually be forced to migrate to AD whether they like it or not. How corporations pay to get their options taken away from them and make themselves bitches for MS never ceases to amaze me. The CIOs of america are awfully fond of saying "thank you sir may I have another!".
The indexing system in W2K is just about useless. I have it turned on and when I ask it to find a file given it's name it still takes over a minute to return answers. On linux or freebsd type in "locate filaname" and you get your answer instantly. I don't know what it does but it sure as hell can't find files fast. Like almost everything MS makes "it makes a lot of promises but delivers almost nothing"
How you shop is just as important as how you vote if not more so.
Shopping is something you do every day voting is once a year (if you show up for local elections).
Shopping effects corporations which are more powerful then the govt and for all practical purposes own the govt. How you spend your dollars has a much bigger impact on the composition of your community and country then how you vote.
Unfortunately the number of people who are mindful of their spending is smaller then the number of people who vote.
What a pathetic country we live in.
So you agree with me that you had your tenses mixed up. You meant to say that one day there will be a cross platform ASP.NET. I distinctly remember you saying that there was already one which is not true.
.NET because by the time the student graduates MS will have dumped it and moved on the new acronym of the day. It will be useless knowledge. MS has a habit of "betting the company" on a new product every two years.
I still say it makes no sense teach
Oh come now you are not really considering a beta release of a bare bones CLR to the real thing not are you. That's like releaseing screen shots and calling it an application.
"Java's exactly the same."
Java has been out for a long time now without significant changes to the core language. Better libraries have been added yes but the old code still runs even if it's calling depreciated methods.
I think you got your tenses a bit mixed up. .gnu are in the very early stages of implementation. One day maybe they will succeed in doing these things but by then MS will have dumped the technology and moved on to the next new thing.
There is no implementation of the CLR for freebsd or linux. There is no *nix version of ASP.NET. Both mono and
Honestly I can't see why any school would switch from teaching java to teaching something that's a little more then a marketing term of a company which is known to be fickle. Especially considering it has not proven itself yet.
"$100-200" ?
I think the cost will be many times that when you consider the endless upgrade cycle you are on. Typical corporate desktop has a licence for windows, one for NT server, one for SQL server and one for office. That's much more then 100 to 200. If you add terminal server they you are paying more on top of that. Not to mention the outragous per processor internet connect fees for the database server.
I don't know what planet you live in but on my planet I have never heard anybody say that it's going to be costless. You are either severly misinformed or are rather fond of lying. You are also under the impression that everything is analyzable by doing a cost benefit analysis. Unfortunately it's awfully hard to measure the cost of a dead human or worse yet a dead coral reef. A lot of the costs won't even materialize till some point in the future.
Coral are dying, plankton are dying, species are being wiped out, glaciers are melting, and the cost of all that is exactly zero. A fish living in the sea is worthless to an economist or a republican. Only when that fish is killed and sold by a fishmonger is it worth anything. You can not always do a cost benefit analysis sometimes you have to do the right and moral thing for you, your nation, your planet, and your children's children even it means it costs more.
Here let me tell you it's going to cost an arm and a leg to certain industries. Too fucking bad. Other industries will make a ton of money. Bloody fucking great. In the long run I don't know if more money will be made then lost but I do know more humans will live better lives, will have less diseases, will be healthier and happier if we take concrete steps to clean up our air, waters, and save out forests and wildlife.
Do you know who the company was? If not then they did not get hurt at all. None of what you said effects them if they can muzzle the employees before, during and after.
So you are saying if costs anything at all we should throw up our hands and say "oh well we are all going to die"
There are a lot more people today.
An enviromentally focused engineer will do jack shit. He/She works for a corporation and answers to shareholders. He might work his entire life and accomplish nothing except to publish a couple of patents and maybe make hos boss some money. That's what he is there for.
The protester is a volunteer. He will make a stink, he will cause some people to change their behaviour. That will make an impact. Why do you think republican organizations spend millions to try and counteract the protestors? Why do you think the media villifies them so much? It's because they protester represents a real and tangible threat to the the status quo.
"If only it were that simple. The fact is that any scientist who releases findings, models, and predictions that go against the accepted norm wrt: global warming no longer has a career or reputation - regardless of the validity of the findings, models, and predictions."
Yo have to be kidding me. Any scientist who disclaims global warming will have money thrown at him left and right from convervative media like fox, msnbc, cnbc etc. Also they are sure to have a best seller. And republican thinktanks will pay them big money to go on the lecture circuit. Conservaitve foundations will give them HUGE money to do further "research" to disprove global warning.
People stand to lose big money if global warming is for real and they will spend to disprove it.
So what do you do? Throw up your hands and say oh well we are all going to die? Even if the changes are caused MOSTLY by external things should we compound the problem or attempt to overcome it?
In America rape is the punishment for every crime. End up jail? get raped.
The reason for this is of course the citizens want it that way. When they think of criminals they think murderers and to them they deserve to get rape. They don't think of a poor slob who got caught with a joint or held up a 7-11.
"Tools" -> "Internet Options" -> "Advanced" -> deselect "Fraud""
I think that would disable your entire windows.
If everybody did it then there would be no consequences except to the company that chose to use and insecure email client. What is needed is an organized effort to block email from outlook by everybody. You could send back a message explaining that they are endengering themselves, their company, and the entire world by using outlook too.
You are way overstating. Just use eudora for email it's free and has all the features you need. There must a dozen free email readers on the net that run on windows. No cost, no hardware upgrade, no OS change. Just ban outlook for email. You can do this right at the server by looking for the agent string.
If you had balls then you would not accept email from outlook for incoming mail too.
Boy you are full of speculations aren't you. Here let me help you some.
What if monkeys were flying out of Bill gates butt and he was unhappy about that?
What if the moon split into 5 pieces due to an evil spell cast by the head chieftain of sony.
What if Osama Bin Laden has coded hidden messages into the Xbox to hynotize innocent german children into being moslems.
This is a fun game isn't it?
Bundling in this case is the same as dumping. The fact is that MS practices illegal dumping of software. They give away products (actually they hide the cost in the OS) that other people are charging for. That's what killed Netscape.
Dumping is illegal for everybody else except MS that's because MS owns the govt. Who would have thought our grand experiment in democracy would have ended up being dismantled so easily. Fuck Osama, Bill gates is the biggest enemy of democracy.
"What MS wants to do with .NET, etc doesnt exisit. They are making it exisit. "
.NET arrived? .NET is a rip off of java and java existed before .NET.
.NET lable on anything it wants to. There will be .NET shoes and .NET ham sandwiches and what not but at it's core it's just another RPC mechanism.
.NET the acronym/hype of the day. That I grant you they are making exist.
Whoa there nelly. I know you are a MS troll and all but take a step back please. You are actually saying it was impossible to run bits of code on different machines before
OK I know MS likes to stick the
Unless of course you mean
I thought SF was open source? When did it become proprietary? Oh yes when VA locked it up.
1) Install debian
2) apt-get install sourceforge.
3) Do a bit of fiddling (well maybe more then a bit).
4) save 30K.
Your grandmother and her ilk are stupid. To be fair most of the world is stupid so in that they are not alone. As a part of the stupid masses they pay what I call "the stupidity tax". They pay this tax in mryiad of ways.
1) By paying more then smart people for everything from hardware and software to food and drugs.
2) Paying more taxes then smart people.
3) By having their privacy invaded and their information bought and sold by everybody from their banks to their doctors.
4) By being forced to view ads shoved on to their desktops by IE, realplayer etc. They are too stupid to config IE so they get to go MSN anytime they make a spelling mistake for example.
Smart people install junkbusters, ipchains, proxomitron, zonealarm etc to protect themselves.
Sometimes even the smart people have to pay the stupidity tax. For example both FedEx and UPS collect information on who sent stuff to you and who you send stuff to. They then sell this information to people who collect and correlate this data. These people then re-sell that information to anybody who wants to know things about you that even you forgot. For less then thirty dollars I can tell you how much your mothers ex husband bought his new house. The reason for that is that even we are not smart enough. Certainly not smart enough to vote for stronger privacy right or fight for our privacy.
Life is tough, it's tougher if you are stupid.
Well in this case we need the govt to protect us from the corporations. The corporations got us into this mess so it's unreasonable to expect them to get us out. I guess the govt is the only hammer we have left. That and open source.