"But, Rob Gee... isn't that kinda fast?" "Kind of fast... IT'S FUCKING FAST!!!!!"
It's about Sex, Drugs and Gabberhouse.
"Start the War, Cuz we are on the Floor. It's never seen before, Army of Hardcore... HARDCORE!"
"I need no thanks for killing scum!"
And of course, my world would not be complete without the Horrorist....
"What did you just give me?"
Oh, and Atari Teenage Riot and Disciples of Annihilation rock my world.
HAWDCOH MUTHAFUKKA!
Disagree and agree at the same time
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Electronic Music 101?
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· Score: 5, Informative
Okay, while I understand your latest trendy-attitude "Oh, I'm so hardcore because I know so much about techno/house/electronic music/german country twang... but whatever... Why use this post as flamebait for music elitists instead of actually taking the chance to EDUCATE someone... tell them to download the oldschool KLF or Orb or Messiah or Jam & Spoon circa 1992 Age of Love remixes and whatnot, instead of telling someone who's showing a general interest in it to shut up and just be another part of the masses.
To the original poster, I'm sorry I missed out early in this discussion because it's an important one. Paul Oakenfold and countless other "superstar" DJs (Keoki exempt) are what many tend to think of as sellouts and big on crowd-pleaser music, and as such are heavily looked down upon by most "oldschool" trance enthusiasts.
If you like Sasha/Digweed, I highly recommend checking out some of there solo work. A big anthem around 1998 was Bedrock's Heavent Scent (Bedrock = John Digweed, btw) and might be along the lines of what you're looking for. While you're at it though, I suggest you check around the web for Electronica music guides and primers, where they'll tell you a lot of the history behind it.... basically, there's a few major genres of electronic music:
1) Techno. The most easily confusable one since everybody tends to refer to all Electronic music as "techno" rather erroneously. It's mechanical and synthetic music. Definately NOT for the masses, on the basis that it's a very subtle art that bends on this razor thin line between "Nothing to it" and "Bloody Brilliant". It originated in Detroit in the mid-80's and developed into a very driving-moving genre. I recommend Underworld, Jeff Mills, and Richie Hawtin.
2) Trance. Typically what most people listen to in the mainstream these days. Comes from Europe's readaptation of softer techno tracks. Very floaty, emotional music. Originally a subspawn of Techno that's designed to put you in a "trance" (hence the namesake). I recommend Orbital's Halcyon & On & On and Age of Love - Age of Love (Watch out for Stella Club Mix) as quintessential Trance tunes.
3) House: Probably the oldest of all electronic music next to Electro. Came out of The Warehouse club in Chicago (Originally "Warehouse Music" and then got abbreviated) is a lot more organic-sounding and disco-based than its detroit counterpart. Similar styles arose out of the Paradise Garage in New York, a gay disco club (which created "Garage" music, a close cousin to house which has since become bastardized into "Speed Garage" and the, IMHO, godawful UK "Garij"). Frankie Knuckles is the best to look up for this. His Whistle Song is probably one of the more definitive Chicago House tracks. I also recommend Marshall Jefferson and Eddie Amador.
4) Breaks: The most famous of the genres, even though you wouldn't think it. A breakbeat adding a more downtempo feel to it. From the oldschool electro breaks (Herbie Hancock, Harold Faltermayer and many other Jazz-Musicians-turned-to-synthesizers) to the newer Hip-Hop (duh), Big Beat (Chemical Brothers, Fatboy Slim), Chemical Breaks (Crystal Method), Miami Bass (Who Let the Dogs Out), and of course, Booty Breaks (aka Ghetto Tech... DJ Assault is the MAN), show a lot of variety within the genre itself.
Anyways, those cover a lot of electronic music and they don't even touch on some of the more popular subculture-driven genres (Jungle, Hardcore, Minimal Tech, and not to mention the unending plethora of UK Anthems). So I hope this helps start you off. Again, look up this stuff... it's tough sometimes to find some really quality music these days what with the inundation of crowd-pleaser music that has been kicking around electronica within the last few years. Good Luck!
Y'know, It'd be kinda tough to capitalize on it, since Some people have been working on similar software types For a good long time now, and if the name "Amiga" means anything to you, you should know it.
That being said, attempting to get certain organizations to mass-produce said file type and push to get it to a more universal and high-quality source (Not like it's not already there) would seem to be a bit futile... Radio DJs give enough exposure to commercial music than to want to bend to the will of Production-oriented DJs like Hawtin. There's enough tracklisters who promote the music to the lowest common denominator to distribute the music appropriately.
Kay. I gotta stop posting drunk. Did that just make any sense?
Interesting how incredibly sexually repressed some of these trolls are, considering they automatically think that anyone female is lying because... *gasp* "WOMMEN CAN"T UZE COMPUTARZ!!!!!!1"
My apologies for feeding the trolls. But this one is just plain desperate. Dude. Turn off the screen, go out and find yourself a date before you masturbate yourself into oblivion. You're gonna go blind, dude.
Honestly... this just adds to the idea: What's the point.
Microsoft's big happy campaign behind the X-Box was that it would be integrable with a lot of stuff since it was based around a standard computer...
Well, so far that's proved to be useless, considering the lack of a commercial OS to run off of it, no inter-web games available as of yet, and no use of this would-be harddrive that couldn't be achieved on a PS-2.
So now they're getting pissed off at Modders. Well what do they expect? They've given us a bunch of resources, and now they're saying "Nope, you can't use them".
Yeah, M$ doesn't really belong in the gaming industry if you ask me. Playstation seems to be doing a good job and providing the public with everything Microsoft promised.
It's taken Lucas about a year less to come out with Ep. 2, and we're probably not going to see 3 for at least another 2 years.
We're getting Matrix 2 next summer, and then Matrix 3 next winter.
Seriously, though... keep complaining if you want pay no attention to the fact that both the sequels were being made at the same time, and as such it takes a bit longer to make them...
Why? Because the Watchowski brothers don't want to do the same thing that Lucas did that pissed off so many people: Release a cliffhanger and then not conclude it for another two years....
It's been clinically proven that drinking before a certain level of body development can cause developmental disorders, and that stage usually occurs around age 19... the decision of the age of majority is pretty arbitrary but rarely goes below that level for those reasons... same reason cigarettes are bad to give to kids.
But based on those reasons, I'd sooner make it illegal for a pregnant woman to drink than a kid.
Whatever... Those were just examples of laws I happen to break, because, quite frankly, a LOT of people break laws... This wasn't intended to be a debate on Pot legalisation or anything like that... The point was more that Laws exist for a reason, and that is to punish people who take liberties with their rights.
Laws are rules. Break the rules, face the consequences, whether it be the long arm of the law, Karma, a mellow high or whatever.
If I had the points I'd be giving it Flamebait with all five points....
Jesus Christ. Yes, it's true that privacy helps criminals do crimes, but it's not like I'm going to install a camera in my bedroom so that the police know in case a crime happens to occur within the bounds of my room.
I know of a similar group that had the general mantra that Security compromises Freedom, and quite frankly The Party in 1984 scared me more than two liner jets flying into the World Trade Center ever did.
Point of the matter is the only way to ensure stuff doesn't get smuggled to the Enemies of State is to keep your eyes on the entire populous 24 hours a day. Unfortunately, then we forfeit our general human decency of free will.
Honestly, every person who is capable thereof has a right to commit a crime. They also have a right to face the consequences of that crime. And that is what a lot of these security-mongers don't seem to understand.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we SHOULD go out and kill people and break every law in the book. What I'm saying is that with our free will we should be perfectly well allowed to do it to our capabilities and face the consequences. Me, personally, I don't think I'd want to go to jail, so as a result I won't do any crimes that would get me there. But there are crimes I break. I smoke Marijuana, I drive above the speed limit and I serve alcohol to minors (not all at the same time, mind you...). But I'm well aware of the consequences and I feel it is my right to break those laws, just as it is the government's right to punish me for doing so.
Wow. Now they're being just plain stupid.
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RIAA Sues Audiogalaxy
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· Score: 2, Insightful
So AG is the latest victim, it's actually quite amusing, since Audiogalaxy first of all just started out as an FTP searching database (ah... memories) and is probably the least guilty of ALL the filesharing software, especially since when a record company would ask them not to share certain songs, THEY WOULD BLOODY WELL COMPLY and block the songs.
Who's running the show? The Purple Id Frog?
I imagine the RIAA board room conversations are something like this:
Lawyer: "Well, we've defeated Kazaa. All that's really left is a couple of unstable and small programs that are really ineffectual." RIAA: "WAR! SEX! COOKIES!!!!!" Lawyer: "What's left to defeat?" RIAA: "WAR! SEX! COOKIES!!!!!" Laywer: "Well... there's still audiogalaxy but..." RIAA: "WAR! SEX! COOKIES!!!!!" Lawyer: "They've done everything we've asked them to! What're we gonna charge them with?" RIAA: "WAR! SEX! COOKIES!!!!!" Lawyer: "I'll get the work order."
Kevin Spacey is Kayser Soze and the narrator IS Tyler Durden...
You guys are doing a good track record for the "Let's not ruin the ending of the bloody series for everybody" bit... especially since some people have been waiting all season for this...
(Honestly, if I were paying attention to this show, I wouldn't go anywhere NEAR the show's website for fear of ruining it... thanks,/.)
"Really, I never could give a rat's ass for these kinds of announcements, and it means little to me whether Sam Raimi is a capable director or not. I take the numbers with a salt lick, as from my impression it's just a device to try to drum up attendance. Is it ever verified? Or would it just be some great trick pulled by the MPAA on a repeatedly duped public, who will then be wondering why such a successful movie doesn't get squat for academy awards."
Well, I'd say it gauges pretty well for the people WITH the money who are investing in movies.
Raimi's done a lot of movies, but very few big budget ones. Army of Darkness was probably his biggest prior to Spidey, and that didn't return much at the box office.
Oh well. I was happy to see Bruce and Ted in this movie... But yeah, twould be insatiably cool to see another Evil Dead... S-Mart Avenger strikes again. =)
I'm no luddite either, but I'm still someone who thinks that if you use CG, it should be done well.
Good CG: Monsters, Inc Bad CG: Armageddon Good CG: Jurrasic Park 1 Bad CG: Jurrasic Park 2
The Special Effects in Star Wars: Episode 4 were a lot better and more realistic than Episode 1.
Computer Graphics are good if used well. But without a good artistic eye for reality (or cartoon reality, depending on what you're aiming for with the movie) it's going to look lame.
Heck, Who Framed Roger Rabbit had better special effects than Episode 1.
I learned my most valuable lessons in programming on a TI-85 calculator about 5 years ago...
I learned loops, if statements, function calls, and mathematical calls on that thing.
Technically, I'd be using the information I learned from that in an exam/homework assignment. Furthermore, I learned Recursion from C. assuming that neither the TI-85 is taught, and let's just say Recursion isn't taught prior to one of these homework assignments, if I were to use them, would I be plagiarising by this definition? Yes.
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"But, Rob Gee... isn't that kinda fast?"
"Kind of fast... IT'S FUCKING FAST!!!!!"
It's about Sex, Drugs and Gabberhouse.
"Start the War, Cuz we are on the Floor.
It's never seen before, Army of Hardcore...
HARDCORE!"
"I need no thanks for killing scum!"
And of course, my world would not be complete without the Horrorist....
"What did you just give me?"
Oh, and Atari Teenage Riot and Disciples of Annihilation rock my world.
HAWDCOH MUTHAFUKKA!
Okay, while I understand your latest trendy-attitude "Oh, I'm so hardcore because I know so much about techno/house/electronic music/german country twang... but whatever... Why use this post as flamebait for music elitists instead of actually taking the chance to EDUCATE someone... tell them to download the oldschool KLF or Orb or Messiah or Jam & Spoon circa 1992 Age of Love remixes and whatnot, instead of telling someone who's showing a general interest in it to shut up and just be another part of the masses.
To the original poster, I'm sorry I missed out early in this discussion because it's an important one. Paul Oakenfold and countless other "superstar" DJs (Keoki exempt) are what many tend to think of as sellouts and big on crowd-pleaser music, and as such are heavily looked down upon by most "oldschool" trance enthusiasts.
If you like Sasha/Digweed, I highly recommend checking out some of there solo work. A big anthem around 1998 was Bedrock's Heavent Scent (Bedrock = John Digweed, btw) and might be along the lines of what you're looking for. While you're at it though, I suggest you check around the web for Electronica music guides and primers, where they'll tell you a lot of the history behind it.... basically, there's a few major genres of electronic music:
1) Techno. The most easily confusable one since everybody tends to refer to all Electronic music as "techno" rather erroneously. It's mechanical and synthetic music. Definately NOT for the masses, on the basis that it's a very subtle art that bends on this razor thin line between "Nothing to it" and "Bloody Brilliant". It originated in Detroit in the mid-80's and developed into a very driving-moving genre. I recommend Underworld, Jeff Mills, and Richie Hawtin.
2) Trance. Typically what most people listen to in the mainstream these days. Comes from Europe's readaptation of softer techno tracks. Very floaty, emotional music. Originally a subspawn of Techno that's designed to put you in a "trance" (hence the namesake). I recommend Orbital's Halcyon & On & On and Age of Love - Age of Love (Watch out for Stella Club Mix) as quintessential Trance tunes.
3) House: Probably the oldest of all electronic music next to Electro. Came out of The Warehouse club in Chicago (Originally "Warehouse Music" and then got abbreviated) is a lot more organic-sounding and disco-based than its detroit counterpart. Similar styles arose out of the Paradise Garage in New York, a gay disco club (which created "Garage" music, a close cousin to house which has since become bastardized into "Speed Garage" and the, IMHO, godawful UK "Garij"). Frankie Knuckles is the best to look up for this. His Whistle Song is probably one of the more definitive Chicago House tracks. I also recommend Marshall Jefferson and Eddie Amador.
4) Breaks: The most famous of the genres, even though you wouldn't think it. A breakbeat adding a more downtempo feel to it. From the oldschool electro breaks (Herbie Hancock, Harold Faltermayer and many other Jazz-Musicians-turned-to-synthesizers) to the newer Hip-Hop (duh), Big Beat (Chemical Brothers, Fatboy Slim), Chemical Breaks (Crystal Method), Miami Bass (Who Let the Dogs Out), and of course, Booty Breaks (aka Ghetto Tech... DJ Assault is the MAN), show a lot of variety within the genre itself.
Anyways, those cover a lot of electronic music and they don't even touch on some of the more popular subculture-driven genres (Jungle, Hardcore, Minimal Tech, and not to mention the unending plethora of UK Anthems). So I hope this helps start you off. Again, look up this stuff... it's tough sometimes to find some really quality music these days what with the inundation of crowd-pleaser music that has been kicking around electronica within the last few years. Good Luck!
I dunno, man... Four year-old capabilities seems to have done _some_ people some commercial success.
Y'know, It'd be kinda tough to capitalize on it, since Some people have been working on similar software types For a good long time now, and if the name "Amiga" means anything to you, you should know it.
That being said, attempting to get certain organizations to mass-produce said file type and push to get it to a more universal and high-quality source (Not like it's not already there) would seem to be a bit futile... Radio DJs give enough exposure to commercial music than to want to bend to the will of Production-oriented DJs like Hawtin. There's enough tracklisters who promote the music to the lowest common denominator to distribute the music appropriately.
Kay. I gotta stop posting drunk. Did that just make any sense?
Why not?
Interesting how incredibly sexually repressed some of these trolls are, considering they automatically think that anyone female is lying because... *gasp* "WOMMEN CAN"T UZE COMPUTARZ!!!!!!1"
My apologies for feeding the trolls. But this one is just plain desperate. Dude. Turn off the screen, go out and find yourself a date before you masturbate yourself into oblivion. You're gonna go blind, dude.
All you have to do is pick out three things wrong with this parent!
Honestly... this just adds to the idea: What's the point.
Microsoft's big happy campaign behind the X-Box was that it would be integrable with a lot of stuff since it was based around a standard computer...
Well, so far that's proved to be useless, considering the lack of a commercial OS to run off of it, no inter-web games available as of yet, and no use of this would-be harddrive that couldn't be achieved on a PS-2.
So now they're getting pissed off at Modders. Well what do they expect? They've given us a bunch of resources, and now they're saying "Nope, you can't use them".
Yeah, M$ doesn't really belong in the gaming industry if you ask me. Playstation seems to be doing a good job and providing the public with everything Microsoft promised.
Uh... FP....
Um... well...
It's taken Lucas about a year less to come out with Ep. 2, and we're probably not going to see 3 for at least another 2 years.
We're getting Matrix 2 next summer, and then Matrix 3 next winter.
Seriously, though... keep complaining if you want pay no attention to the fact that both the sequels were being made at the same time, and as such it takes a bit longer to make them...
Why? Because the Watchowski brothers don't want to do the same thing that Lucas did that pissed off so many people: Release a cliffhanger and then not conclude it for another two years....
It's too bad that the only way they know how to do that is by punishing those who commit crimes.
The closest thing that the North American governments do is make verbal threats illegal. But that's about it.
Well, now that we're varying heavily off topic...
It's been clinically proven that drinking before a certain level of body development can cause developmental disorders, and that stage usually occurs around age 19... the decision of the age of majority is pretty arbitrary but rarely goes below that level for those reasons... same reason cigarettes are bad to give to kids.
But based on those reasons, I'd sooner make it illegal for a pregnant woman to drink than a kid.
Family? Not of the top of my head. But try my close friend Craig who was dead in a gutter with the word "FAGGOT" carved into his chest.
Just because someone becomes in contact with a crime doesn't mean that they demand the release of basic human free will...
Whatever... Those were just examples of laws I happen to break, because, quite frankly, a LOT of people break laws... This wasn't intended to be a debate on Pot legalisation or anything like that... The point was more that Laws exist for a reason, and that is to punish people who take liberties with their rights.
Laws are rules. Break the rules, face the consequences, whether it be the long arm of the law, Karma, a mellow high or whatever.
Can we please moderate the whole story?
If I had the points I'd be giving it Flamebait with all five points....
Jesus Christ. Yes, it's true that privacy helps criminals do crimes, but it's not like I'm going to install a camera in my bedroom so that the police know in case a crime happens to occur within the bounds of my room.
I know of a similar group that had the general mantra that Security compromises Freedom, and quite frankly The Party in 1984 scared me more than two liner jets flying into the World Trade Center ever did.
Point of the matter is the only way to ensure stuff doesn't get smuggled to the Enemies of State is to keep your eyes on the entire populous 24 hours a day. Unfortunately, then we forfeit our general human decency of free will.
Honestly, every person who is capable thereof has a right to commit a crime. They also have a right to face the consequences of that crime. And that is what a lot of these security-mongers don't seem to understand.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we SHOULD go out and kill people and break every law in the book. What I'm saying is that with our free will we should be perfectly well allowed to do it to our capabilities and face the consequences. Me, personally, I don't think I'd want to go to jail, so as a result I won't do any crimes that would get me there. But there are crimes I break. I smoke Marijuana, I drive above the speed limit and I serve alcohol to minors (not all at the same time, mind you...). But I'm well aware of the consequences and I feel it is my right to break those laws, just as it is the government's right to punish me for doing so.
Meanwhile, Six hackers uncovered in a fraud scheme in Nigeria are apparently needed for Mozilla to be able to relicense its product....
17 more and this would be one HELL of a conspiracy theory...
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*sigh*
So AG is the latest victim, it's actually quite amusing, since Audiogalaxy first of all just started out as an FTP searching database (ah... memories) and is probably the least guilty of ALL the filesharing software, especially since when a record company would ask them not to share certain songs, THEY WOULD BLOODY WELL COMPLY and block the songs.
Who's running the show? The Purple Id Frog?
I imagine the RIAA board room conversations are something like this:
Lawyer: "Well, we've defeated Kazaa. All that's really left is a couple of unstable and small programs that are really ineffectual."
RIAA: "WAR! SEX! COOKIES!!!!!"
Lawyer: "What's left to defeat?"
RIAA: "WAR! SEX! COOKIES!!!!!"
Laywer: "Well... there's still audiogalaxy but..."
RIAA: "WAR! SEX! COOKIES!!!!!"
Lawyer: "They've done everything we've asked them to! What're we gonna charge them with?"
RIAA: "WAR! SEX! COOKIES!!!!!"
Lawyer: "I'll get the work order."
Kevin Spacey is Kayser Soze and the narrator IS Tyler Durden...
/.)
You guys are doing a good track record for the "Let's not ruin the ending of the bloody series for everybody" bit... especially since some people have been waiting all season for this...
(Honestly, if I were paying attention to this show, I wouldn't go anywhere NEAR the show's website for fear of ruining it... thanks,
"Really, I never could give a rat's ass for these kinds of announcements, and it means little to me whether Sam Raimi is a capable director or not. I take the numbers with a salt lick, as from my impression it's just a device to try to drum up attendance. Is it ever verified? Or would it just be some great trick pulled by the MPAA on a repeatedly duped public, who will then be wondering why such a successful movie doesn't get squat for academy awards."
Well, I'd say it gauges pretty well for the people WITH the money who are investing in movies.
Raimi's done a lot of movies, but very few big budget ones. Army of Darkness was probably his biggest prior to Spidey, and that didn't return much at the box office.
Oh well. I was happy to see Bruce and Ted in this movie... But yeah, twould be insatiably cool to see another Evil Dead... S-Mart Avenger strikes again. =)
I'm no luddite either, but I'm still someone who thinks that if you use CG, it should be done well.
Good CG: Monsters, Inc
Bad CG: Armageddon
Good CG: Jurrasic Park 1
Bad CG: Jurrasic Park 2
The Special Effects in Star Wars: Episode 4 were a lot better and more realistic than Episode 1.
Computer Graphics are good if used well. But without a good artistic eye for reality (or cartoon reality, depending on what you're aiming for with the movie) it's going to look lame.
Heck, Who Framed Roger Rabbit had better special effects than Episode 1.
"You may not copy or use it in any way,"
Change copy to distribute, and that'd be all good.
Lest us not forget fair use. =)
Then we'd have to rename the GPL to .annoy
=)
You don't say...
(You figuring it out yet?)
I learned my most valuable lessons in programming on a TI-85 calculator about 5 years ago...
I learned loops, if statements, function calls, and mathematical calls on that thing.
Technically, I'd be using the information I learned from that in an exam/homework assignment. Furthermore, I learned Recursion from C. assuming that neither the TI-85 is taught, and let's just say Recursion isn't taught prior to one of these homework assignments, if I were to use them, would I be plagiarising by this definition? Yes.