"women dropping from 37 percent to 28 percent of graduates--at the very moment their presence in other scientific and engineering disciplines has soared"
Sounds to me like they are just better at not being duped by things like the dot-com craze. A whole lotta women scientists, just not computer ones....
I don't see how we could have debated it before the fact.
Actually the hijacking problem has been debated both by the authorities who deal with such things _and_ those who design the aircraft. Un-hijackable airliners are completely possible. It has been an exercise in aerospace engineering programs.
They have never been brought to market.
Airlines have a responsibility to their passangers. And the gov't has a responsibility to watch over the airlines.
It has been possible since the late 60's (the earliest design plan I've personally seen) to eliminate airliner hijackings thru aircraft design. Has it been done, no.
As I see it, you have some anti-government point you're trying to make, and to make it you don't care if you imply that a couple of hundred people died because they were cowards or dupes. That's disgraceful
Well, the whole thread sort of began on an anti-gov't vector.... My main point I think is that we have, either directly or indirectly been stripped of our ability to defend ourselves and determine our own destiny, in many situations. And everytime something new is tried (like using aircraft as missiles, which actually isn't new, only the use of commercial aircraft) we are stripped of more of our rights and abilities to take care of ourselves. All for the sake of safety. But isn't our own personal safety the responsibility (ultimately) of ourselves.
Prior to 9-11, there were many instances of "air-rage" that were dealt with by the passengers and crew. Nutcases subdued etc.
I thank you for your debate and respect your opinions. I have never meant to disparage anyone who was a victim of the events of 9-11, I personally have known 6 who are now passed. I am sorry if you interpreted it as such. i have never been one to sit by when "the sh*t is hitting the fan", probably due to military serivce and often being entrusted as the guardian of others.
As I said before, it would be a terrible thing to one day have some poor fighter pilot have to shoot down a plane-load of civilians.
I would rather stand my ground than doom some poor sole to living with that on his conscious.
Americans have forgotten that our freedom was paid for in blood. And sometimes more is required to sustain that. Using the blood of innocents to deny the freedom of even just one American is what's disgraceful.
Alot of people screwed up thru inaction or incompetence and allowed what happened to happen. The number of people that screwed up who died as a result is approximately zero.
I'm not being disrespectful to the innocent bystanders. Furthermore I knew people who never made it out of the Pentagon.
Most of their families hold the same opinions I do regarding this.
phuturepunk above is right, this country is softening up.
"They were told that if they remained quiet, nobody would be hurt--and with most previous hijackers, that would have been true."
You'd take the word of someone willing to take over an airplane? And that word 'most' there would fill me with confidence.
It's pointless to debate this after the fact.
And frankly everyone shares a bit of responsibility.
Did we really think with the world the way it is that it would never touch us? It already had. It will again. Too many nutjobs running around. Not enough people paying attention to their games.
How am I blaming the passengers? At no point did I state they were to blame for what happened. Anyone who thinks that is a fool.
The gov't taught everyone to wait for it to solve highjackings.
It never did a damn thing to mandate that the passenger compartment be seperated and secured from the cockpit?
Again and again I hear about muggings, home invasions (now there's a term), carjackings, etc where people wind up dead despite being fully cooperative.
This planet has plenty of nutcases on it. If you meet one, (a)how can you tell, and (b)what would you do when then turn their attention to you?
My biggest air travel concern now is if a takeover attempt happens again, and the passengers do not defeat the highjackers, what's left but the have some poor USAF pilot live with the fact that he he/she had to down a passenger jet.
Who's blaming the passengers? They were simply doing what has been instilled in them by their gov't and their society. I blame the gov't.
Don't act. Be passive. We are the nanny state. Wear your seatbelt, its the law. Brush your teeth.
People who fail to step up and defend themselves and each other when something happens (and this doesn't mean necessarily physical confrontation) don't make for a good free society. Not everyone is a hero-type, but does it take so much effort to phone in a crime in progress if you see it? I have seen so many people just IGNORE muggings and purse snatchngs and so forth.
The only thing worse is people who go ahead and sue good samaritans for going out of their way to save someones life, and possibly get a rib or two broken or something like that.
"However, you'd better be successful the first time; the Secret Service are hired to specifically keep you from attempting or succeeding in such an attempt."
Actually, the rather large standing volunteer army would be the ones trying to stop you. And like all revolutions you would need to win the support of at least some of the army for success. Or have a powerful ally somewhere, such as the French in the American revolution.
I find it interesting that we are all (in the US at least) in this situation of rampant bad laws, paranoia, fear, and so forth because we have been conditioned that the gov't will take care of us. A hand full of people took over a few airliners and got away with it (at least their plans) because people are told the gov't will solve it. You mean to tell me a whole airliner full of people couldn't stop a couple of guys with razor-blades? Razor blades???? My shoes are more dangerous!
Trust the gov't, cuz after that trust fails you, they can build more despicable ways for you to trust them.
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I swear I thought I heard someone scream "Panaramic Porn!"
I would say that most average home-users already have more machine (HW & SW wise) than they need or can handle. That says to me that the offerings for that market segment at least are well beyond mature. The fact that they arent bulletproof stable is simply proof that manufacturers really don't care and just want to push the next big thing.
Further complicating the issue, widespread surveys of SUV owning suburbanites have indicated that there has been little to no interest in getting their vehicles off ROAD.
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"Abide by the terms of the contract you signed whilst registering."
I see. While registering with Apple computer, who is barred from entering the music business due to a suit brought by Apple Records oh so many years ago.
If Apple Records gets iTunes shut down, I expect that all the fair use arguements suddenly get way more valid.
"Nitpick... "Turning the other cheek" doesn't mean "Turning a blind eye." It means if someone smacks your face, you should turn and allow them to smack the other side as well."
Incorrect, mostly. "Turn the other cheek" is a rebellious statement. Back in those days, if you were to slap someone of lesser standing, someone you viewed as inferior, you would slap one side of their faces (i forget which side). To "turn the other cheek" was to say that he who slapped you was in the wrong and assert that you were in fact their equal. There is NOTHING about turing a blind eye, or live and let live, or whatever the modern interpretation.
Turning the other cheek is a challenge and a statement. In those days a big one.
"How in the hell do ideas like this make it long enough to be publicly announced? It makes me sad that morons have tech jobs making crap and I couldn't even get hired changing toner if I wanted too..."
See that'd be you're problem right there. Most of the suits have gotten the idea that any button-pushing-monkey can change toner. Even tho the cup holder on their own machine has been busted for weeks. What you need is to either, (a) come up with some of this outlandish crap yourself and basically snow they execs because the don't know any better or (b) get a law degree and wait for the big payday, I imagine the greatest profit to be made in the future of IT is in the legal arena.
Especially considering that networks are doing such brilliant things as cancelling their highest rated shows and generally screwing up everything else that's worth tuning in for.
Wow, I just gave that a quick going over and thats some messed up stuff.
Further evidence that today's children have more or less been abandoned by their elders. And frankly very upsetting.
Pantera tho?
I may rail on some of these folks from time to time, but only when they deserve it. Believe it or not, I like the younger crowd. Hell, most of my closest friends are 5-10 years younger than me.I have lost a few people to suicide, all of them deeply troubled with family issues. Its a shame that no matter what you do, you can't always help
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"women dropping from 37 percent to 28 percent of graduates--at the very moment their presence in other scientific and engineering disciplines has soared"
Sounds to me like they are just better at not being duped by things like the dot-com craze. A whole lotta women scientists, just not computer ones....
These cameras are no more intrusive than having police officers sitting in their place, watching everything.
Fine then, pay for cops to sit there. I'd prefer it. A camera WILL NOT COME TO YOUR AID and WILL NOT STOP SOMETHING FROM HAPPENING!
I don't see how we could have debated it before the fact.
Actually the hijacking problem has been debated both by the authorities who deal with such things _and_ those who design the aircraft. Un-hijackable airliners are completely possible. It has been an exercise in aerospace engineering programs.
They have never been brought to market.
Airlines have a responsibility to their passangers. And the gov't has a responsibility to watch over the airlines.
It has been possible since the late 60's (the earliest design plan I've personally seen) to eliminate airliner hijackings thru aircraft design. Has it been done, no.
As I see it, you have some anti-government point you're trying to make, and to make it you don't care if you imply that a couple of hundred people died because they were cowards or dupes. That's disgraceful
Well, the whole thread sort of began on an anti-gov't vector.... My main point I think is that we have, either directly or indirectly been stripped of our ability to defend ourselves and determine our own destiny, in many situations. And everytime something new is tried (like using aircraft as missiles, which actually isn't new, only the use of commercial aircraft) we are stripped of more of our rights and abilities to take care of ourselves. All for the sake of safety. But isn't our own personal safety the responsibility (ultimately) of ourselves.
Prior to 9-11, there were many instances of "air-rage" that were dealt with by the passengers and crew. Nutcases subdued etc.
I thank you for your debate and respect your opinions. I have never meant to disparage anyone who was a victim of the events of 9-11, I personally have known 6 who are now passed. I am sorry if you interpreted it as such. i have never been one to sit by when "the sh*t is hitting the fan", probably due to military serivce and often being entrusted as the guardian of others.
As I said before, it would be a terrible thing to one day have some poor fighter pilot have to shoot down a plane-load of civilians.
I would rather stand my ground than doom some poor sole to living with that on his conscious.
Americans have forgotten that our freedom was paid for in blood. And sometimes more is required to sustain that. Using the blood of innocents to deny the freedom of even just one American is what's disgraceful.
That statement was meant as a hypothetical.
Alot of people screwed up thru inaction or incompetence and allowed what happened to happen. The number of people that screwed up who died as a result is approximately zero.
I'm not being disrespectful to the innocent bystanders. Furthermore I knew people who never made it out of the Pentagon.
Most of their families hold the same opinions I do regarding this.
phuturepunk above is right, this country is softening up.
"They were told that if they remained quiet, nobody would be hurt--and with most previous hijackers, that would have been true."
You'd take the word of someone willing to take over an airplane? And that word 'most' there would fill me with confidence.
It's pointless to debate this after the fact.
And frankly everyone shares a bit of responsibility.
Did we really think with the world the way it is that it would never touch us? It already had. It will again. Too many nutjobs running around. Not enough people paying attention to their games.
Love the sig.
The Flight 93 folks performed valiantly in the face of near total uncertainty.
There is just something so unsettling about the term innocent bystander. I for one hope never to become one.
How am I blaming the passengers? At no point did I state they were to blame for what happened. Anyone who thinks that is a fool.
The gov't taught everyone to wait for it to solve highjackings.
It never did a damn thing to mandate that the passenger compartment be seperated and secured from the cockpit?
Again and again I hear about muggings, home invasions (now there's a term), carjackings, etc where people wind up dead despite being fully cooperative.
This planet has plenty of nutcases on it. If you meet one, (a)how can you tell, and (b)what would you do when then turn their attention to you?
My biggest air travel concern now is if a takeover attempt happens again, and the passengers do not defeat the highjackers, what's left but the have some poor USAF pilot live with the fact that he he/she had to down a passenger jet.
Who's blaming the passengers? They were simply doing what has been instilled in them by their gov't and their society. I blame the gov't.
Don't act. Be passive. We are the nanny state. Wear your seatbelt, its the law. Brush your teeth.
People who fail to step up and defend themselves and each other when something happens (and this doesn't mean necessarily physical confrontation) don't make for a good free society. Not everyone is a hero-type, but does it take so much effort to phone in a crime in progress if you see it? I have seen so many people just IGNORE muggings and purse snatchngs and so forth.
The only thing worse is people who go ahead and sue good samaritans for going out of their way to save someones life, and possibly get a rib or two broken or something like that.
"However, you'd better be successful the first time; the Secret Service are hired to specifically keep you from attempting or succeeding in such an attempt."
Actually, the rather large standing volunteer army would be the ones trying to stop you. And like all revolutions you would need to win the support of at least some of the army for success. Or have a powerful ally somewhere, such as the French in the American revolution.
I find it interesting that we are all (in the US at least) in this situation of rampant bad laws, paranoia, fear, and so forth because we have been conditioned that the gov't will take care of us. A hand full of people took over a few airliners and got away with it (at least their plans) because people are told the gov't will solve it. You mean to tell me a whole airliner full of people couldn't stop a couple of guys with razor-blades? Razor blades???? My shoes are more dangerous!
Trust the gov't, cuz after that trust fails you, they can build more despicable ways for you to trust them.
I swear I thought I heard someone scream "Panaramic Porn!"
I would say that most average home-users already have more machine (HW & SW wise) than they need or can handle. That says to me that the offerings for that market segment at least are well beyond mature. The fact that they arent bulletproof stable is simply proof that manufacturers really don't care and just want to push the next big thing.
Better yet, what if they are just flat out intentionally misspelled?
Further complicating the issue, widespread surveys of SUV owning suburbanites have indicated that there has been little to no interest in getting their vehicles off ROAD.
"Abide by the terms of the contract you signed whilst registering."
I see. While registering with Apple computer, who is barred from entering the music business due to a suit brought by Apple Records oh so many years ago.
If Apple Records gets iTunes shut down, I expect that all the fair use arguements suddenly get way more valid.
Yes, and as modern politics shows, if you repeat something enough eventually it becomes true, at least in your own mind.
I think there has been alot of progress, but there is still a very big difference between the business desktop and that of the Joe Shmoe home-user.
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"Nitpick... "Turning the other cheek" doesn't mean "Turning a blind eye." It means if someone smacks your face, you should turn and allow them to smack the other side as well."
Incorrect, mostly. "Turn the other cheek" is a rebellious statement. Back in those days, if you were to slap someone of lesser standing, someone you viewed as inferior, you would slap one side of their faces (i forget which side). To "turn the other cheek" was to say that he who slapped you was in the wrong and assert that you were in fact their equal. There is NOTHING about turing a blind eye, or live and let live, or whatever the modern interpretation.
Turning the other cheek is a challenge and a statement. In those days a big one.
You forgot type number 5: Cancelled Games
Most recent example being the Sam & Max sequel, which was killed despite a HUGE cult following that eagerly awaited its release.
So why not just get someone to write whatever software/plugin/driver is needed to use something like the Nostromo Speedpad (designed for gaming)?
Big deal.
So the off-site backups would be where? Your basement? :P
Veering off topic but needs to be said...
"How in the hell do ideas like this make it long enough to be publicly announced? It makes me sad that morons have tech jobs making crap and I couldn't even get hired changing toner if I wanted too..."
See that'd be you're problem right there. Most of the suits have gotten the idea that any button-pushing-monkey can change toner. Even tho the cup holder on their own machine has been busted for weeks. What you need is to either, (a) come up with some of this outlandish crap yourself and basically snow they execs because the don't know any better or (b) get a law degree and wait for the big payday, I imagine the greatest profit to be made in the future of IT is in the legal arena.
Especially considering that networks are doing such brilliant things as cancelling their highest rated shows and generally screwing up everything else that's worth tuning in for.
Dude, I am NOT hand-cranking my grandpa.
yeah, that's "E-Light", or maybe "iLight" if you're a mac person :P
Wow, I just gave that a quick going over and thats some messed up stuff.
Further evidence that today's children have more or less been abandoned by their elders. And frankly very upsetting.
Pantera tho?
I may rail on some of these folks from time to time, but only when they deserve it. Believe it or not, I like the younger crowd. Hell, most of my closest friends are 5-10 years younger than me.I have lost a few people to suicide, all of them deeply troubled with family issues. Its a shame that no matter what you do, you can't always help