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I think I have it. If we get the spammer's postal address, and the postal address of those who hired him, maybe we should just print out all the spam we get and sent it to the one who hired him postage due.:)
As an added bonus use the spammer's postal address as the return address.
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Ok, another spammer, joy, so when are we going to start getting lists of those who HIRE these urchins? I frankly would love to start re-routing all the spam that comes to me BACK to the idiots who hire spammers. Oh, and how about some postal addresses on these spam-buying scumbags too, eh?
Have just watched the trailer for Revolutions as well as being inundated with opinions about Reloaded I've come to a conclusion. Smith is human.
1. Why is Smith the only Agent with any emotional expression? And why is he so insistant on "getting out of here", where the hell would he go anyway?
2. Why the hell is he BACK? (Extra life! W00t!) Yes other Agents return when "destroyed" but there's nothing to say that they are in fact the same Agent, maybe just another copy of the program gets loaded. Smith is far too individual.
3. Ok yeah, Zion/Reality is another Matrix, who didn't see that coming, but why exactly. Yeah it could be to catch the 1% who don't buy into the Matrix concept, but I have a different idea. I think its a war game. I think it exists because there IS some sort of actual rebellion and the Matrix/Reality simulation exists to aid the machines in finding a way to finally solve the human problem.
4. Given all that I think Smith is a human, forced by the machines to live in the simulate Matrix/Reality to find a way to defeat the rebels by winning essentially a war game.
About Revolutions:
Based on the trailer it looks pretty highly possible that the machines or Smith do find a way to defeat the Real humans but are surprised to see that Neo (of Matrix/Reality) turns on them, joining the ranks of the Real humans (One line: "He fights for us."), most likely with the knowledge that he himself is unreal.
Just conjecture, but if I'm right I'm gonna be pissed.
"a truely impartial third party"? Like who? What organization is responsible enough to oversee the elections of the most powerful nation on Earth and yet has no opinion one way or another on how they should go.
Step 1: Bring back the Class D radio licenses damnit! At $100,000/license minimum the barrier to entry into radio is WAY too high. No wonder myself and most people I know switched to internet stations. Then they started trying to kill them. They are PUBLIC airwaves, right?
Corporate environments? Are these the same corporate environments that are seemingly always behind a version or 2 with their OS's because (a)what they have works, (b)their mission critical apps don't run on newer OS's or (c)its unnecessarily expensive to upgrade? I really can't see this in the corporate world. We are just now beginning to look at moving to 2k. And I have YET to see a corporate environment using XP voluntarily.
Mmmm, how about they come up with a Voice-Synth caller ID feature that's integrated into the ringer?
I too wear a watch all the time, a good watch, chronograph. It's nearly indestructable and is perfect for any occasion. I can't see this watch-phone thing being better than my watch.
I'd rather see a small PDA with an integrated phone w/bluetooth (are these out? I'm heavily outta the loop). Something that lives on my belt or an eHolster is much more preferable to the wrist. And considering the beatings my watches have taken in the past, this thing would be dead in a week.
Why is that such a surprise? What percentage of the American public knows more than next to nothing about computers, networks and all the other techno toys we don't think twice about dealing with. EVERYONE knows that otters (for example) are cute. Therefore, we must save the cute little otters, and all their other furry and feathered brethren.
Tech is NOT sexy, or cute, or as in-your-face obvious as nature and it never will be. Furthermore, most of Greenpeace's stunts are designed around the principal of preventing the slaughter of one animal or another. Killing defenceless creatures == bad, worse if they're cute. Pretty damn simple eh?
Another issue that we (meaning tech enthusiasts/advocates) face is the sheer language barrier, do you realize how hard it is to explain these issues to people when they can't seem to grasp the difference between login and password? Everyone can understand Greenpeace, we learned all their terms in elementary school.
Greenpeace and environmental advocates have allies too, entities that own or oversee great expances of wilderness and preserves, huge advertising campaigns, and efforts directed at educating the children in schools to the dangers of environmental destruction. When exactly was the last time you heard about RIGHTS (cyber or otherwise) being so widely taught and examined in a school system. Our cause needs SERIOUS allies: tech powerhouses, artists, big content producers.
"Why don't we have people on campus letting people know about their freedoms, about the lies spread by the RIAA/MPAA, and about *what can be done to help* ?" We could, there's nothing to stop it, but I don't think it'd help much. There are so many things cluttering up people's lives with worry that something like a tech issue is going to be simply pushed aside by concerns about the economy, the future of the planet and so forth. After all, even tho none of use here would like it, we could just switch off and still live long happy lives.
I still maintain the only victory possible will need tech savvy people elected to all levels of government. But as to how to accomplish that, I could not begin to tell you.
Sadly I'm afraid that this simply will not be enough, even with a large outpouring of concern,letter-writing etc. I fear that there will never be a way to defeat this sort of thing from the side of the governed. The only way it will stop is when WE have been put in office. Keep writing the letters, but also consider who among you might be a deserving representative. I would simply love to see some people in the law-making bodies who really get it.
Total agreement, I never cared for Mitnick and although I think he was an excellent social engineer he was a terrible poster-boy for anyone's cause. He did get shafted by the system, but it didn't help anyone that he was such a malcontent.
This is an excellent point. The legalese equivalent might be "standards of the community".
While I'm not arguing any position for or against the examples I provided, they remain illegal. As does theft of services, although why taking a few hundred dollars worth of phone service is such a larger offence than stealing the same amount of physical merchandise is beyond me.
Community standards create laws (at least in theory) and habitual disregard for things like speed regulations can carry consequences. Which is safer to hire, a security guy who (ignore Mitnick for the moment) may have gotten caught and served his time or one who's driving record suggests he's flat-out reckless?
Excess speed can kill you and others (so they say).
(Personally I think people should have to qualify in whatever they're driving and have to be relicensed every 2 years but thats just me.)
As for my definition of criminal, criminal means "caught" in my opinion, just ask a politician. I should have said "potential criminal".
I would have to say that all judgements need to be case by case in this type of thing, and frankly I wasn't really impressed with Mitnick other than his social engineering ability. Actions speak louder they say, and repeat offenders in this sort of thing are likely to be either not good enough or simply never gonna change. I would probably never recommend a straight black-hat for a job, a grey-hat maybe, but that would depend on his methodology and personal philosophy, which will be evidenced by his actions.
Forgive typos and spell errors, what can I say, I went to art school.
Tell it to Wozniak, he and ALOT of other names in the IT field are admitted hackers just like the person you're replying to. So am I for that matter, I was around then, but that was long ago, today is a very different world. Its a MINDSET. The same mindset I put to use for 7 years in the realm of physical security. How does the system work, were are its weak points, can I get around the system?
Everything isn't so cut and dried, and if you want to make such blanket statements, I hope you check the records of the politicians you vote for, because there's an AWEFUL lot of law violators in Congress and so forth. Frankly it would be the best place to start if we are to follow your philosophy.
"You didn't just break some random law--you STOLE service!"
And what the hell is that supposed to mean? "You STOLE service"? You make it sound like he decked a nun or something. The law is the law, if you violate it you may have to face consequences. Ever speed? Ever jaywalk? Ever put change into someone elses parking mater to be a nice guy? Ever walk off with someone's pen or lighter? Congradulations, you're a criminal.
Of course they won't want to kill us, who else are they going to get to do the skut work anyway? Someone's gonna have to haul the trash and clean the toilets.
I don't think there would be a clash between "content creators" and "pirates", there hasn't been thusfar (with the exception of Metallica). Part of the issue with all this mess is we don't actually _hear_ from the creators, only the publishers, bankrollers etc... When will the artists ever stand up and take a side in all this? They certainly need to do so before any meaningful DRM is in place or it will be too late for an alternative.
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Give them resumes of people you hate?
Another tactic for the previous article, send spammers your resume, and everyone elses you can lay your grubby mits on. Teehee.
I'm bored, can't you tell?
...the allure died when I discovered users.
I think I have it. If we get the spammer's postal address, and the postal address of those who hired him, maybe we should just print out all the spam we get and sent it to the one who hired him postage due. :)
As an added bonus use the spammer's postal address as the return address.
Ok, another spammer, joy, so when are we going to start getting lists of those who HIRE these urchins? I frankly would love to start re-routing all the spam that comes to me BACK to the idiots who hire spammers. Oh, and how about some postal addresses on these spam-buying scumbags too, eh?
The very same thing could of been said about the internet.
Uh, no.
Have just watched the trailer for Revolutions as well as being inundated with opinions about Reloaded I've come to a conclusion. Smith is human.
1. Why is Smith the only Agent with any emotional expression? And why is he so insistant on "getting out of here", where the hell would he go anyway?
2. Why the hell is he BACK? (Extra life! W00t!) Yes other Agents return when "destroyed" but there's nothing to say that they are in fact the same Agent, maybe just another copy of the program gets loaded. Smith is far too individual.
3. Ok yeah, Zion/Reality is another Matrix, who didn't see that coming, but why exactly. Yeah it could be to catch the 1% who don't buy into the Matrix concept, but I have a different idea. I think its a war game. I think it exists because there IS some sort of actual rebellion and the Matrix/Reality simulation exists to aid the machines in finding a way to finally solve the human problem.
4. Given all that I think Smith is a human, forced by the machines to live in the simulate Matrix/Reality to find a way to defeat the rebels by winning essentially a war game.
About Revolutions:
Based on the trailer it looks pretty highly possible that the machines or Smith do find a way to defeat the Real humans but are surprised to see that Neo (of Matrix/Reality) turns on them, joining the ranks of the Real humans (One line: "He fights for us."), most likely with the knowledge that he himself is unreal.
Just conjecture, but if I'm right I'm gonna be pissed.
"a truely impartial third party"? Like who? What organization is responsible enough to oversee the elections of the most powerful nation on Earth and yet has no opinion one way or another on how they should go.
The Stonecutters? Uh, wait, never mind...
"I want decent independant radio back."
Step 1: Bring back the Class D radio licenses damnit! At $100,000/license minimum the barrier to entry into radio is WAY too high. No wonder myself and most people I know switched to internet stations. Then they started trying to kill them. They are PUBLIC airwaves, right?
Corporate environments? Are these the same corporate environments that are seemingly always behind a version or 2 with their OS's because (a)what they have works, (b)their mission critical apps don't run on newer OS's or (c)its unnecessarily expensive to upgrade? I really can't see this in the corporate world. We are just now beginning to look at moving to 2k. And I have YET to see a corporate environment using XP voluntarily.
Who wants to put money on the first Linux port being rolled out with the name Sparta?
Mmmm, how about they come up with a Voice-Synth caller ID feature that's integrated into the ringer?
I too wear a watch all the time, a good watch, chronograph. It's nearly indestructable and is perfect for any occasion. I can't see this watch-phone thing being better than my watch.
I'd rather see a small PDA with an integrated phone w/bluetooth (are these out? I'm heavily outta the loop). Something that lives on my belt or an eHolster is much more preferable to the wrist. And considering the beatings my watches have taken in the past, this thing would be dead in a week.
Ok, so if it has bluetooth for a wireless ear-piece/headset thing, why exactly does it need to be a wristwatch?
This is too gimicky to be practical in my book.
Why is that such a surprise? What percentage of the American public knows more than next to nothing about computers, networks and all the other techno toys we don't think twice about dealing with. EVERYONE knows that otters (for example) are cute. Therefore, we must save the cute little otters, and all their other furry and feathered brethren.
Tech is NOT sexy, or cute, or as in-your-face obvious as nature and it never will be. Furthermore, most of Greenpeace's stunts are designed around the principal of preventing the slaughter of one animal or another. Killing defenceless creatures == bad, worse if they're cute. Pretty damn simple eh?
Another issue that we (meaning tech enthusiasts/advocates) face is the sheer language barrier, do you realize how hard it is to explain these issues to people when they can't seem to grasp the difference between login and password? Everyone can understand Greenpeace, we learned all their terms in elementary school.
Greenpeace and environmental advocates have allies too, entities that own or oversee great expances of wilderness and preserves, huge advertising campaigns, and efforts directed at educating the children in schools to the dangers of environmental destruction. When exactly was the last time you heard about RIGHTS (cyber or otherwise) being so widely taught and examined in a school system. Our cause needs SERIOUS allies: tech powerhouses, artists, big content producers.
"Why don't we have people on campus letting people know about their freedoms, about the lies spread by the RIAA/MPAA, and about *what can be done to help* ?" We could, there's nothing to stop it, but I don't think it'd help much. There are so many things cluttering up people's lives with worry that something like a tech issue is going to be simply pushed aside by concerns about the economy, the future of the planet and so forth. After all, even tho none of use here would like it, we could just switch off and still live long happy lives.
I still maintain the only victory possible will need tech savvy people elected to all levels of government. But as to how to accomplish that, I could not begin to tell you.
Hmmm, good point, I guess we're just screwed. Maybe we can pass the hat and buy a few Congressmen of our very own?
And for any politicos out there, I'll vote for anyone who will eliminate ATM fees and bring back nap-time.
Sadly I'm afraid that this simply will not be enough, even with a large outpouring of concern,letter-writing etc. I fear that there will never be a way to defeat this sort of thing from the side of the governed. The only way it will stop is when WE have been put in office. Keep writing the letters, but also consider who among you might be a deserving representative. I would simply love to see some people in the law-making bodies who really get it.
Total agreement, I never cared for Mitnick and although I think he was an excellent social engineer he was a terrible poster-boy for anyone's cause. He did get shafted by the system, but it didn't help anyone that he was such a malcontent.
"...these behaviors are within society's norms."
This is an excellent point. The legalese equivalent might be "standards of the community".
While I'm not arguing any position for or against the examples I provided, they remain illegal. As does theft of services, although why taking a few hundred dollars worth of phone service is such a larger offence than stealing the same amount of physical merchandise is beyond me.
Community standards create laws (at least in theory) and habitual disregard for things like speed regulations can carry consequences. Which is safer to hire, a security guy who (ignore Mitnick for the moment) may have gotten caught and served his time or one who's driving record suggests he's flat-out reckless?
Excess speed can kill you and others (so they say).
(Personally I think people should have to qualify in whatever they're driving and have to be relicensed every 2 years but thats just me.)
As for my definition of criminal, criminal means "caught" in my opinion, just ask a politician. I should have said "potential criminal".
I would have to say that all judgements need to be case by case in this type of thing, and frankly I wasn't really impressed with Mitnick other than his social engineering ability. Actions speak louder they say, and repeat offenders in this sort of thing are likely to be either not good enough or simply never gonna change. I would probably never recommend a straight black-hat for a job, a grey-hat maybe, but that would depend on his methodology and personal philosophy, which will be evidenced by his actions.
Forgive typos and spell errors, what can I say, I went to art school.
"The Internet? Is that thing still around?" /Homer
Tell it to Wozniak, he and ALOT of other names in the IT field are admitted hackers just like the person you're replying to. So am I for that matter, I was around then, but that was long ago, today is a very different world. Its a MINDSET. The same mindset I put to use for 7 years in the realm of physical security. How does the system work, were are its weak points, can I get around the system?
Everything isn't so cut and dried, and if you want to make such blanket statements, I hope you check the records of the politicians you vote for, because there's an AWEFUL lot of law violators in Congress and so forth. Frankly it would be the best place to start if we are to follow your philosophy.
"You didn't just break some random law--you STOLE service!"
And what the hell is that supposed to mean? "You STOLE service"? You make it sound like he decked a nun or something. The law is the law, if you violate it you may have to face consequences. Ever speed? Ever jaywalk? Ever put change into someone elses parking mater to be a nice guy? Ever walk off with someone's pen or lighter? Congradulations, you're a criminal.
Of course they won't want to kill us, who else are they going to get to do the skut work anyway? Someone's gonna have to haul the trash and clean the toilets.
I think that should read: "Microsoft is actually LIFTING a leg up to the little guy..."
Enough already!
I don't think there would be a clash between "content creators" and "pirates", there hasn't been thusfar (with the exception of Metallica). Part of the issue with all this mess is we don't actually _hear_ from the creators, only the publishers, bankrollers etc... When will the artists ever stand up and take a side in all this? They certainly need to do so before any meaningful DRM is in place or it will be too late for an alternative.
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