There are several console games that were delayed to the ps3 because it was so hard to develop to. Grand Theft Auto 4 and Unreal 3 are the first to come to mind,
They were delayed because they were sloppy ports from the 360. If you target the 360 and then try to shoehorn the code into the PS3, the results aren't great. Compare it to PS3 exclusives like InFamous, Metal Gear Solid, Killzone 2 etc and you'll see much better results.
and there's also the fact that Valve refuse to develop for the Ps3 because of the hardware difficulties - something they came out and said after the port of the Orange box to the Ps3 (done by outside contractors). This is why you're not seeing Left 4 Dead to the Ps3.
Valve (specifically, Gabe Newell) has said a lot of bad things about the PS3 to cover for the fact that they cheaped on the Orange Box port. Their reputation was damaged, so he tried to deflect the blame to the console. Newell has blasted the Wii as well. He doesn't have the manpower or expertise at Valve to handle these systems, so he chooses to disparage them. Valve doesn't need to make games for either system-they make plenty of money as it is-so this kind of talk is useless.
Yeah, I hate it when people talk about things outside their area of expertise. In fact, what the hell are you doing on Slashdot. Shouldn't you be summoning Bahamut or something?
Family values are talked about. We have advertising campaigns. But it is projected that in a few years that more kids will be born out of wedlock than in (it is slightly over 40% now). This is trend is being seen in all social levels. So, Family Values are a nice political campaign slogan, but we have rejected them as a society.
I don't think anyone anyone debates that a real, 2-parent household is the best environment for raising children. But a 2-parent household is the exception throughout history, especially for the lower classes. It is a form of wealth in its own way.
And now, in the modern America, where husbands aren't really viewed as necessary (or even desired), we wonder why we have an explosion of these "disorders". Sorry... it ain't rocket science.
What America do you live in? In the one I live in, "family values" like marriage, having children, etc are cherished. There's even public service announcements like "it takes a man to be a dad." No one, besides maybe the most radical feminists would say that fathers are "undesired." And there really aren't many single-parent households at all if you count step-parents.
And people with more money get to shout louder in our current system? Is that fair?
Nope, but they're allowed to run a propaganda machine that feeds macho rhetoric to the lower classes in order to get them to vote against their financial interests.
Personally, I'm fine with digital download replacing media. It is better for the environment and more efficient. I would expect the system to (a) let me sell my key to another person, and (b) let me re-download the data if I need to.
(a) will never happen. With any of the console manufacturers, unless Gamestop decides to make a console, then maybe. (b) might if you're lucky, but think how many hours you will waste re-downloading games when your Xbox720 inevitably breaks.
Another thing that digital downloads will put a stop to is: taking a game over to a friend's house to play. Sure, you could give him your Xbox Live login (or PSN) but that's linked to your credit card. How much do you trust your friend? Also, you'd have to coordinate with your friend the day before, or wait hours for the game to download to his console. And that's if he has enough room on his hard drive. And let's not forget the move towards metered broadband...your friend might not be so keen to download your game if it costs him money.
I wouldn't touch an all-digital distribution system. Convenience is one thing, but there are just too many aspects of console gaming that we take for granted that would disappear. It's bad for consumers.
More big media companies going after money. Maybe it is just my thought but why can't American companies just bother the Americans and not everyone else. This is why people hate us!
This is why people hate us? I thought it was because we peed on their rug.
The revelation that American Telephone & Telegraph Company is responsible for this shocking rejection of the Google's Voice Application Programming Software has dealt a crushing blow to my masculine vanity. I stand before you broken and afraid, longing for the succor found only beneath your delectable pantaloons.
River City Ransom or Power Stone. River City Ransom had that crappy Game Boy Advance release that was actually inferior to the NES release (no 2 player) and Power Stone had a shovelware release on PSP. But Power Stone 2 is made for 4 player consoles and the crazy action would work well, especially on Wii. I think Smash Bros. players would enjoy Power Stone 2.
"Breast ligaments"? Are you fucking shitting me? Breast ligaments? And modded up as well. I know that Slashdotters aren't supposed to know a lot about women, but I'd hope they'd at least have read an anatomy textbook. Breasts are sacks of adipose tissue. Fat, if you will.
And then they'd want to flagpole sit behind the Automat while listening to Fats Waller cylinders after rumbling across town in an old jalopy looking for a speakeasy!
I think I must have lost this power with age. I remember when I was a kid, there was a clothing store near my house that I hated to visit because something (alarm system, maybe?) was emitting an awful high-pitched whine. I could always hear the TVs too.
You know, if you're playing on online match, and you only use the original proton pack in Ghostbusters:The Video Game, you will be awarded a title called "Purist." (PS3 and Xbox 360 versions only)
Are you not fascinated by the disclosure of this fact?
If Microsoft only allowed you to sync a Zune to WMP people would be up in arms.
You know what would be worse? If dumped their "PlaysforSure" DRM and opened their own music store with DRM that doesn't work on anything but the Zune? Oh wait, they already did that.
I understand what you're saying, but iTunes already has a plugin architecture for supporting 3rd party MP3 players. It's just that since Apple released the iPod, they aren't interested in supporting 3rd party players anymore...they only want you to use iTunes. They didn't care when iTunes was Mac only and the iPod had just come out, but now they don't want you using anything but the iPod with iTunes. Greed is the reason, not purity of experience. They could make it easy for 3rd parties again if they wanted to. Heck, they could at least refrain from breaking stuff on purpose.
But, I don't pay a penny for iTunes so it's tough for me to be that upset about it. I'd like a Pre myself, but I doubt I would use the music part of it anyway, there's just not enough space for it.
And...receiving the Slashie award for Tortured Car Metaphor for 2009, it's QuantumRiff! (Crowd goes wild).
Well Bob, that was a fantastic example of a classic Tortured Car Metaphor. It was simply chock-full of inappropriate comparisons of business models, implications of conspiracy, and smug ignorance. One wonders how he will be able to follow up this incredible stupidity next year!
What provide the motivation? Getting a reaction from people like you. Somewhere, in his mom's basement, there's a guy with his cock out fwapping away to your post.
I guess the Pre is selling pretty well, I couldn't get one at the Sprint store the other day. I prefer the "touchscreen & hard buttons" approach of the Pre and Treo as opposed to the 100% touchscreen approach of the iPhone or the 100% buttons approach of the Blackberry. I think the Pre is probably the best out of the lot, but that ain't sayin' much. Wish I didn't have to carry a cell phone at all.
No we need way more Candle in the Wind! Which version? How about all of them! Genius idea! A Guitar Hero game featuring songs with absolutely no guitar playing at all, or the shittiest, most talentless jerk-offs out there able to pound out the same three note chord bar after bar! AWESOME!
The Elton John song is "Saturday Night's Alright (For Fighting)", which has a pretty juicy guitar part, if I do say so myself. Guitar Hero is about pretending to be a rock star, not a musical virtuoso. The audience of people who can tolerate Robert Fripp solos is much smaller than those who can enjoy a simple AC/DC track. And out of those Robert Fripp fans, most of them are going to say "Get a real instrument instead of pretending to play a solo on a plastic toy." So, from a financial standpoint, does it make sense to target these people?
Don't know what exactly you have against technically proficient players, and I'm not sure when being able to play an instrument well became something to despise.
It became "something to despise" when technically proficient, soulless players sucked all the fun out of rock 'n' roll and turned it into something more pretentious ballet (which btw was invented so that aristocrats could look at girls in skimpy clothes, funny what we consider high art these days).
It's a good thing there's such diversity in music today. Those of us who appreciate talented musicians can listen to them, while those who enjoy the absolute shit put out by people who cannot even call themselves musicians any more (they're "artists") because they have less to do with the actual music than my bowel movements have an abundance to choose from, even if most of it sounds the same.
So you must love Kenny G more than Charlie Parker, right? Robert Fripp more than Chuck Berry? Some no-name fusion jazz drummer more than Keith Moon? After all, boring, masturbatory soloing is what people with sophisticated tastes like yourself just love. God forbid those artists be accountable to an audience! It's not like they're entertainers, that would be beneath them.
Anyway, back to Rock Band, a great deal of people like catchy songs, whether they're simple or complex. A small amount of people appreciate technically complicated music for its own sake. They usually work at coffee shops or Guitar Center and scowl at everyone, then wonder why everyone hates them. Which would audience would you target your music-based at?
Comparing Guitar Freaks to Guitar Hero is like comparing a quill pen to a ballpoint. Yes, Guitar Freaks was first, but it's primitive and awkward compared to Guitar Hero or Rock Band. So, Activision settled with Konami to prevent a lawsuit...that doesn't make Guitar Freaks a popular game.
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There are several console games that were delayed to the ps3 because it was so hard to develop to. Grand Theft Auto 4 and Unreal 3 are the first to come to mind,
They were delayed because they were sloppy ports from the 360. If you target the 360 and then try to shoehorn the code into the PS3, the results aren't great. Compare it to PS3 exclusives like InFamous, Metal Gear Solid, Killzone 2 etc and you'll see much better results.
and there's also the fact that Valve refuse to develop for the Ps3 because of the hardware difficulties - something they came out and said after the port of the Orange box to the Ps3 (done by outside contractors). This is why you're not seeing Left 4 Dead to the Ps3.
Valve (specifically, Gabe Newell) has said a lot of bad things about the PS3 to cover for the fact that they cheaped on the Orange Box port. Their reputation was damaged, so he tried to deflect the blame to the console. Newell has blasted the Wii as well. He doesn't have the manpower or expertise at Valve to handle these systems, so he chooses to disparage them. Valve doesn't need to make games for either system-they make plenty of money as it is-so this kind of talk is useless.
Yeah, I hate it when people talk about things outside their area of expertise. In fact, what the hell are you doing on Slashdot. Shouldn't you be summoning Bahamut or something?
Calling someone a liar makes you the asshole. Just so you know.
If having a low tolerance for internet bombast makes me an asshole, then so be it.
Family values are talked about. We have advertising campaigns. But it is projected that in a few years that more kids will be born out of wedlock than in (it is slightly over 40% now). This is trend is being seen in all social levels. So, Family Values are a nice political campaign slogan, but we have rejected them as a society.
I don't think anyone anyone debates that a real, 2-parent household is the best environment for raising children. But a 2-parent household is the exception throughout history, especially for the lower classes. It is a form of wealth in its own way.
And now, in the modern America, where husbands aren't really viewed as necessary (or even desired), we wonder why we have an explosion of these "disorders". Sorry... it ain't rocket science.
What America do you live in? In the one I live in, "family values" like marriage, having children, etc are cherished. There's even public service announcements like "it takes a man to be a dad." No one, besides maybe the most radical feminists would say that fathers are "undesired." And there really aren't many single-parent households at all if you count step-parents.
And people with more money get to shout louder in our current system? Is that fair?
Nope, but they're allowed to run a propaganda machine that feeds macho rhetoric to the lower classes in order to get them to vote against their financial interests.
You're in Canada I assume?
I know people in odd little pockets San Antonio (pop 2 million) that can't get broadband. Weird stuff.
Millions of people in the United States. Not everyone lives in a major city, you know...
Personally, I'm fine with digital download replacing media. It is better for the environment and more efficient. I would expect the system to (a) let me sell my key to another person, and (b) let me re-download the data if I need to.
(a) will never happen. With any of the console manufacturers, unless Gamestop decides to make a console, then maybe. (b) might if you're lucky, but think how many hours you will waste re-downloading games when your Xbox720 inevitably breaks.
Another thing that digital downloads will put a stop to is: taking a game over to a friend's house to play. Sure, you could give him your Xbox Live login (or PSN) but that's linked to your credit card. How much do you trust your friend? Also, you'd have to coordinate with your friend the day before, or wait hours for the game to download to his console. And that's if he has enough room on his hard drive. And let's not forget the move towards metered broadband...your friend might not be so keen to download your game if it costs him money.
I wouldn't touch an all-digital distribution system. Convenience is one thing, but there are just too many aspects of console gaming that we take for granted that would disappear. It's bad for consumers.
More big media companies going after money. Maybe it is just my thought but why can't American companies just bother the Americans and not everyone else. This is why people hate us!
This is why people hate us? I thought it was because we peed on their rug.
Dearest Penelope,
The revelation that American Telephone & Telegraph Company is responsible for this shocking rejection of the Google's Voice Application Programming Software has dealt a crushing blow to my masculine vanity. I stand before you broken and afraid, longing for the succor found only beneath your delectable pantaloons.
Signed,
Phil Schiller
River City Ransom or Power Stone. River City Ransom had that crappy Game Boy Advance release that was actually inferior to the NES release (no 2 player) and Power Stone had a shovelware release on PSP. But Power Stone 2 is made for 4 player consoles and the crazy action would work well, especially on Wii. I think Smash Bros. players would enjoy Power Stone 2.
I'm way ahead of the curve.. the front of my computer has a frickin' gamma ray emitter as ITS power light.
Hey, okay! We believe you. Just...try and calm down. Whatever you do, don't get angry.
"Breast ligaments"? Are you fucking shitting me? Breast ligaments? And modded up as well. I know that Slashdotters aren't supposed to know a lot about women, but I'd hope they'd at least have read an anatomy textbook. Breasts are sacks of adipose tissue. Fat, if you will.
And then they'd want to flagpole sit behind the Automat while listening to Fats Waller cylinders after rumbling across town in an old jalopy looking for a speakeasy!
I think I must have lost this power with age. I remember when I was a kid, there was a clothing store near my house that I hated to visit because something (alarm system, maybe?) was emitting an awful high-pitched whine. I could always hear the TVs too.
You know, if you're playing on online match, and you only use the original proton pack in Ghostbusters:The Video Game, you will be awarded a title called "Purist." (PS3 and Xbox 360 versions only)
Are you not fascinated by the disclosure of this fact?
If Microsoft only allowed you to sync a Zune to WMP people would be up in arms.
You know what would be worse? If dumped their "PlaysforSure" DRM and opened their own music store with DRM that doesn't work on anything but the Zune? Oh wait, they already did that.
I understand what you're saying, but iTunes already has a plugin architecture for supporting 3rd party MP3 players. It's just that since Apple released the iPod, they aren't interested in supporting 3rd party players anymore...they only want you to use iTunes. They didn't care when iTunes was Mac only and the iPod had just come out, but now they don't want you using anything but the iPod with iTunes. Greed is the reason, not purity of experience. They could make it easy for 3rd parties again if they wanted to. Heck, they could at least refrain from breaking stuff on purpose.
But, I don't pay a penny for iTunes so it's tough for me to be that upset about it. I'd like a Pre myself, but I doubt I would use the music part of it anyway, there's just not enough space for it.
And...receiving the Slashie award for Tortured Car Metaphor for 2009, it's QuantumRiff! (Crowd goes wild).
Well Bob, that was a fantastic example of a classic Tortured Car Metaphor. It was simply chock-full of inappropriate comparisons of business models, implications of conspiracy, and smug ignorance. One wonders how he will be able to follow up this incredible stupidity next year!
What provide the motivation? Getting a reaction from people like you. Somewhere, in his mom's basement, there's a guy with his cock out fwapping away to your post.
I hope you're proud of yourself.
You know, that would be an awesome .sig.
I guess the Pre is selling pretty well, I couldn't get one at the Sprint store the other day. I prefer the "touchscreen & hard buttons" approach of the Pre and Treo as opposed to the 100% touchscreen approach of the iPhone or the 100% buttons approach of the Blackberry. I think the Pre is probably the best out of the lot, but that ain't sayin' much. Wish I didn't have to carry a cell phone at all.
People from California tend to be pretty self-centered when it comes to regional issues
FTFY
This is a huge problem for Los Angeles. Ever seen "Chinatown"?
No we need way more Candle in the Wind! Which version? How about all of them! Genius idea! A Guitar Hero game featuring songs with absolutely no guitar playing at all, or the shittiest, most talentless jerk-offs out there able to pound out the same three note chord bar after bar! AWESOME!
The Elton John song is "Saturday Night's Alright (For Fighting)", which has a pretty juicy guitar part, if I do say so myself. Guitar Hero is about pretending to be a rock star, not a musical virtuoso. The audience of people who can tolerate Robert Fripp solos is much smaller than those who can enjoy a simple AC/DC track. And out of those Robert Fripp fans, most of them are going to say "Get a real instrument instead of pretending to play a solo on a plastic toy." So, from a financial standpoint, does it make sense to target these people?
Don't know what exactly you have against technically proficient players, and I'm not sure when being able to play an instrument well became something to despise.
It became "something to despise" when technically proficient, soulless players sucked all the fun out of rock 'n' roll and turned it into something more pretentious ballet (which btw was invented so that aristocrats could look at girls in skimpy clothes, funny what we consider high art these days).
It's a good thing there's such diversity in music today. Those of us who appreciate talented musicians can listen to them, while those who enjoy the absolute shit put out by people who cannot even call themselves musicians any more (they're "artists") because they have less to do with the actual music than my bowel movements have an abundance to choose from, even if most of it sounds the same.
So you must love Kenny G more than Charlie Parker, right? Robert Fripp more than Chuck Berry? Some no-name fusion jazz drummer more than Keith Moon? After all, boring, masturbatory soloing is what people with sophisticated tastes like yourself just love. God forbid those artists be accountable to an audience! It's not like they're entertainers, that would be beneath them.
Anyway, back to Rock Band, a great deal of people like catchy songs, whether they're simple or complex. A small amount of people appreciate technically complicated music for its own sake. They usually work at coffee shops or Guitar Center and scowl at everyone, then wonder why everyone hates them. Which would audience would you target your music-based at?
Comparing Guitar Freaks to Guitar Hero is like comparing a quill pen to a ballpoint. Yes, Guitar Freaks was first, but it's primitive and awkward compared to Guitar Hero or Rock Band. So, Activision settled with Konami to prevent a lawsuit...that doesn't make Guitar Freaks a popular game.