I'll agree that the differences are fairly insignificant to most technical users, but there are inconsistencies. I wouldn't complain about that, but I can see how some people would find that frustrating.
That said, Android is lagging behind iOS as far as the UI goes. Giving credit where credit is due, Apple has had the good sense to actually improve over the years, addressing many of my earlier complaints. I can understand why a user, today, without any ideological motivation would willingly choose iOS over Android.
Still, both are still impossibly behind BB10 and WebOS. You won't find much other than praise for WebOS's UI. BB10 stole quite a bit and added their own improvements. Going from my three-year-old z10 to Android or iOS is like stepping back in time. Why aren't they copying, or outright stealing, from these infinitely better interfaces?
It was a bit slim, though they now users have access to pretty much everything on Amazon's app store. It's a huge improvement.
the OS and UI sucks
That's strange. I've heard nothing but praise for the UI -- and it is well ahead of iOS and Android. It's been compared many times to WebOS, which they stole from heavily, making for a very positive user experience. (WebOS, as you know, is still highly praised for its UI.) As for the OS proper, it's QNX, which I've never heard anyone criticize. It used to be quite the darling in the tech world, and for good reason.
they tell their users to "go fuck themselves" when they ask for improvements.
I really don't know what to say about this one. I have absolutely no idea why you'd think this. If any thing, they listen to their users too much. The Pearl was a response to user input, as were countless other odd-ball models they've released over the years. The Classic and (foolish) Priv being the two most recent examples of responding directly to their users requests.
A fun aside, the parent said "Blackberry would be selling millions of units a year." Which is interesting, because they have been selling millions of units every year. That is, your "explanation" isn't really necessary as it's in response to a statement that is already incorrect.
Why does it need to conform to your particular vision? Hacking, in this context, in the old days was mostly social. Calling someone to nab credentials or insider info was most of it. The bulk of the technical side was pitifully simple: make this tone, pick an option not displayed, call every phone number in this exchange, etc.
accidently stumbling on a bug and exploiting it doesn't necessarily make you a hacker. [...] Hacking in my opinion requires a bit more intent and insight, which usually is associated with a bit more intelligence
Why? Stumbling in to a bug and exploiting it is, well, pretty much the vision of hacking you seem to have in your head. The only difference being how the bug is found. Though I wonder where you'd draw the line when it comes to defining what is and is not an accident. Is there a difference, for example, between stabbing randomly at a keypad hoping to find a bug and stabbing it randomly in frustration and finding a bug? This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
As often as is reasonable. See, you have this amazing ability to use your own judgement and discretion. You need not be beholden to simpleminded absolutes.
There are times where the problems to be solved are so complex that not using a library could set you back years.
When we talk about dependencies, we're talking about far more than simply the use of third-party libraries. Take a moment to think about that, I've little doubt that you'll come to understand what the rest of us are talking about.
How about this? Dependencies are bad; you should avoided them.
You can apply that to third-party code as well as code you've written yourself. GIS for "dependency graph" if you'd like to see why you see this "rule" posted so frequently.
The mistake here is assuming that those 100 "UI guys" are equally or even minimally competent. Good designers are just as difficult to find, and it's much harder to separate the wheat from the chaff. When it comes to developers, those with a strong aesthetic sense tend to produce more legible and maintainable code than those with a stronger technical background. Finding people with a mix of both is difficult, but ideal.
Privileging one set of skills and trivializing another is foolish. It's a lesson many of us have learned the hard way.
There's nothing but pointless bickering and drama in just about every open source project. It's disgusting. Having a code of conduct keeps that down to the absolute minimum.
So, according to the article, Windows 10 didn't install itself in the authors "test". The imaginary problem also seems to have vanished as his subsequent "tests" didn't provide the sensational result he wanted. What, exactly, did you intend to prove with that link? Or was that just the best you could manage, and you hoped I (more likely others reading the discussion) wouldn't bother to read it beyond the introduction?
Color me skeptical, but I'm going to chalk up this absurdity to users not reading the upgrade dialog. It's the simplest explanation. Why should I believe your weird conspiracy? What would MS have to gain? Why would they lie about it if it was trivial to prove? Why can no one provide evidence of their claim that Windows 10 installs itself without the users knowledge or consent?
its plain to see by your posting history you are shilling the living fuck out of anything MSFT.
You're deeply confused. Outside this article, where all I did was bother to call out the bullshit, I doubt you could find any many posts where I even mention Microsoft. If I can be accused of "shilling" for anyone on the basis of my post history, it would be for Mozilla or Blackberry. Anyhow, it's pretty obvious that you've not examined my post history. So... why would you lie?
I think I know. What you want to do with a comment like that, I suspect, is to cast doubt on my reputation, and hence the sincerity of my post. Rather than address the content, you'd rather have others dismiss what I've written on the basis of your attack on my character. That's disgraceful. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I won't dispute that the UI is designed to encourage users to upgrade to Windows 10. Though that's not what is being claimed here.
The claim is that Windows 10 is being installed without the users knowledge or consent. That claim, obviously, is unsubstantiated nonsense.
If you want to claim that the UI was specifically designed to cause users to inadvertently install 10, you're welcome to offer it, along with whatever argument you want to make in support of that claim. I'm certain you'll find someone interested in engaging you on that point. I'm not interested in pointless speculation, so you'll need to look elsewhere.
They really need better support. My BlackBerry is over 3 years old now, yet I just got an OS update last week. I wonder why a larger manufacturer like Samsung can't be bothered to push updates for at least as long as the average contract length!
A few days ago, I flipped on an old 3.1 machine. It started making all kinds of racket, so I thought there was a problem with the cooling fan. To my surprise, it was in the middle of installing Windows 10! It didn't even have a network connection. I called Microsoft, and they said the 10 upgrade would not install on a 3.1 machine. Liars!
See how easy that is? I'd like some evidence, thanks, which no one seems to be able to provide. As far as I can tell, the mystical belief that windows 10 installs itself without any user interaction is 100% pure bullshit.
But let's say I believe your story. Consider: it's possible that the user who brought the machine to you scheduled the upgrade for a later day. Easy enough, as it looks like the only 'do it later' option on the nag screen.
They're just confused because they believe MS will force the 10 upgrade with no opt-out. The lack of any actual evidence doesn't phase them. All they need is a vague rumor and they'll be happy to consider their preexisting believes gospel truth.
If there is any truth to those rumors, I figure they just come from a few users who just clicked through the nag screen without reading it or scheduled the upgrade for later and were then later shocked to discover windows 10 was installed "without doing anything".
Most typical users don't even touch those settings, and with the default being that they will get Windows 10 installed
The user does not need to take any specific action to avoid an automatic 10 install. On the contrary, they need to take specific action to install it. It is really easy to install 10, which I believe is the real source of this imagined problem.
My guess is that a few users, in typical fashion, clicked through the 10 install window when it appeared without reading it and were then shocked to discover they'd installed windows 10. Alternately, they may have scheduled an upgrade for a later time, thinking it was like delaying an update restart (they've been trained to click the 'delay for four hours' option on windows like that).
Which is more likely: Microsoft is lying about something for absolutely no reason (while knowing that such a lie would be instantly exposed by the tech community) or a few users failed to read the text in a window before blindly clicking?
No, no. See, that's just the order in which he prefers to perform those tasks. First, he plays a game. After that, he winds down with a code audit, provided, of course, that it isn't video driver code.
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I'll agree that the differences are fairly insignificant to most technical users, but there are inconsistencies. I wouldn't complain about that, but I can see how some people would find that frustrating.
That said, Android is lagging behind iOS as far as the UI goes. Giving credit where credit is due, Apple has had the good sense to actually improve over the years, addressing many of my earlier complaints. I can understand why a user, today, without any ideological motivation would willingly choose iOS over Android.
Still, both are still impossibly behind BB10 and WebOS. You won't find much other than praise for WebOS's UI. BB10 stole quite a bit and added their own improvements. Going from my three-year-old z10 to Android or iOS is like stepping back in time. Why aren't they copying, or outright stealing, from these infinitely better interfaces?
Only this and nothing more: Abort, Retry, Ignore...
Except that blackberry has no apps
It was a bit slim, though they now users have access to pretty much everything on Amazon's app store. It's a huge improvement.
the OS and UI sucks
That's strange. I've heard nothing but praise for the UI -- and it is well ahead of iOS and Android. It's been compared many times to WebOS, which they stole from heavily, making for a very positive user experience. (WebOS, as you know, is still highly praised for its UI.) As for the OS proper, it's QNX, which I've never heard anyone criticize. It used to be quite the darling in the tech world, and for good reason.
they tell their users to "go fuck themselves" when they ask for improvements.
I really don't know what to say about this one. I have absolutely no idea why you'd think this. If any thing, they listen to their users too much. The Pearl was a response to user input, as were countless other odd-ball models they've released over the years. The Classic and (foolish) Priv being the two most recent examples of responding directly to their users requests.
A fun aside, the parent said "Blackberry would be selling millions of units a year." Which is interesting, because they have been selling millions of units every year. That is, your "explanation" isn't really necessary as it's in response to a statement that is already incorrect.
Why does it need to conform to your particular vision? Hacking, in this context, in the old days was mostly social. Calling someone to nab credentials or insider info was most of it. The bulk of the technical side was pitifully simple: make this tone, pick an option not displayed, call every phone number in this exchange, etc.
accidently stumbling on a bug and exploiting it doesn't necessarily make you a hacker. [...] Hacking in my opinion requires a bit more intent and insight, which usually is associated with a bit more intelligence
Why? Stumbling in to a bug and exploiting it is, well, pretty much the vision of hacking you seem to have in your head. The only difference being how the bug is found. Though I wonder where you'd draw the line when it comes to defining what is and is not an accident. Is there a difference, for example, between stabbing randomly at a keypad hoping to find a bug and stabbing it randomly in frustration and finding a bug? This doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
When should I avoid them? In what situations?
As often as is reasonable. See, you have this amazing ability to use your own judgement and discretion. You need not be beholden to simpleminded absolutes.
There are times where the problems to be solved are so complex that not using a library could set you back years.
When we talk about dependencies, we're talking about far more than simply the use of third-party libraries. Take a moment to think about that, I've little doubt that you'll come to understand what the rest of us are talking about.
You really need to do a search for "Ship of Theseus".
How about this? Dependencies are bad; you should avoided them.
You can apply that to third-party code as well as code you've written yourself. GIS for "dependency graph" if you'd like to see why you see this "rule" posted so frequently.
The mistake here is assuming that those 100 "UI guys" are equally or even minimally competent. Good designers are just as difficult to find, and it's much harder to separate the wheat from the chaff. When it comes to developers, those with a strong aesthetic sense tend to produce more legible and maintainable code than those with a stronger technical background. Finding people with a mix of both is difficult, but ideal.
Privileging one set of skills and trivializing another is foolish. It's a lesson many of us have learned the hard way.
There's nothing but pointless bickering and drama in just about every open source project. It's disgusting. Having a code of conduct keeps that down to the absolute minimum.
How you ask ...
Well, if the circumstances of his death were deeply embarrassing, I can see why they'd want to keep that as quiet as possible.
I'm guessing it involved a Thai ladyboy.
that whole 50 posts per day limit even when you get the highest possible level of karma...
Yeah, it should probably be less. I'm thinking 15 or 20.
So, according to the article, Windows 10 didn't install itself in the authors "test". The imaginary problem also seems to have vanished as his subsequent "tests" didn't provide the sensational result he wanted. What, exactly, did you intend to prove with that link? Or was that just the best you could manage, and you hoped I (more likely others reading the discussion) wouldn't bother to read it beyond the introduction?
Color me skeptical, but I'm going to chalk up this absurdity to users not reading the upgrade dialog. It's the simplest explanation. Why should I believe your weird conspiracy? What would MS have to gain? Why would they lie about it if it was trivial to prove? Why can no one provide evidence of their claim that Windows 10 installs itself without the users knowledge or consent?
its plain to see by your posting history you are shilling the living fuck out of anything MSFT.
You're deeply confused. Outside this article, where all I did was bother to call out the bullshit, I doubt you could find any many posts where I even mention Microsoft. If I can be accused of "shilling" for anyone on the basis of my post history, it would be for Mozilla or Blackberry. Anyhow, it's pretty obvious that you've not examined my post history. So ... why would you lie?
I think I know. What you want to do with a comment like that, I suspect, is to cast doubt on my reputation, and hence the sincerity of my post. Rather than address the content, you'd rather have others dismiss what I've written on the basis of your attack on my character. That's disgraceful. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I won't dispute that the UI is designed to encourage users to upgrade to Windows 10. Though that's not what is being claimed here.
The claim is that Windows 10 is being installed without the users knowledge or consent. That claim, obviously, is unsubstantiated nonsense.
If you want to claim that the UI was specifically designed to cause users to inadvertently install 10, you're welcome to offer it, along with whatever argument you want to make in support of that claim. I'm certain you'll find someone interested in engaging you on that point. I'm not interested in pointless speculation, so you'll need to look elsewhere.
They really need better support. My BlackBerry is over 3 years old now, yet I just got an OS update last week. I wonder why a larger manufacturer like Samsung can't be bothered to push updates for at least as long as the average contract length!
Watch this, it'll totally blow your mind:
A few days ago, I flipped on an old 3.1 machine. It started making all kinds of racket, so I thought there was a problem with the cooling fan. To my surprise, it was in the middle of installing Windows 10! It didn't even have a network connection. I called Microsoft, and they said the 10 upgrade would not install on a 3.1 machine. Liars!
See how easy that is? I'd like some evidence, thanks, which no one seems to be able to provide. As far as I can tell, the mystical belief that windows 10 installs itself without any user interaction is 100% pure bullshit.
But let's say I believe your story. Consider: it's possible that the user who brought the machine to you scheduled the upgrade for a later day. Easy enough, as it looks like the only 'do it later' option on the nag screen.
If I had the default, Windows 10 would have installed itself.
There is absolutely no rational basis for that belief.
They're just confused because they believe MS will force the 10 upgrade with no opt-out. The lack of any actual evidence doesn't phase them. All they need is a vague rumor and they'll be happy to consider their preexisting believes gospel truth.
If there is any truth to those rumors, I figure they just come from a few users who just clicked through the nag screen without reading it or scheduled the upgrade for later and were then later shocked to discover windows 10 was installed "without doing anything".
You're operating on a false set of assumptions:
Most typical users don't even touch those settings, and with the default being that they will get Windows 10 installed
The user does not need to take any specific action to avoid an automatic 10 install. On the contrary, they need to take specific action to install it. It is really easy to install 10, which I believe is the real source of this imagined problem.
My guess is that a few users, in typical fashion, clicked through the 10 install window when it appeared without reading it and were then shocked to discover they'd installed windows 10. Alternately, they may have scheduled an upgrade for a later time, thinking it was like delaying an update restart (they've been trained to click the 'delay for four hours' option on windows like that).
Which is more likely: Microsoft is lying about something for absolutely no reason (while knowing that such a lie would be instantly exposed by the tech community) or a few users failed to read the text in a window before blindly clicking?
It's funny because you believe the nonsense you posted.
As for your current post, I'm simply stunned that you believe that nonsense as well. It's not funny, it's just sad...
I like the 'disable ads' checkbox. I just want it to actually disable the ads.
That's the funniest thing I've heard in years.
It got down-voted because it was 1) completely offtopic and 2) for the last sentence, which gave away the posts true nature.
You should be modded down as well, as your post is also an obvious troll.
No, no. See, that's just the order in which he prefers to perform those tasks. First, he plays a game. After that, he winds down with a code audit, provided, of course, that it isn't video driver code.
I'd disagree, but apparently 1 in 3 developers are morons...
Write your congress critter and tell him we want more mild winters.