I believe the difference is that by the time you're facing a breathalyzer--which as you point out, there are penalties for refusing--you've committed some sort of violation. At that point, you're interacting with the police and if they have reason to believe you are under the influence--either due to the previously cited violation or via observable signs (smell of alcohol, slurring of words, etc.)--they can begin the series of tests to confirm their suspicions.
In this case, you're just pulled over and and checked for no valid reason other than everyone is being checked.
Is now when we drag out the "If you haven't done anything wrong, what do you have to worry about" line?
At my previous company, we went the other direction...no personal equipment was allowed. If you needed a tool (e.g. a laptop), it was provided.
We didn't want the liability of damage or theft of someone's personal equipment. Further, we didn't want to deal with things like users bringing in tools that impact the network, we didn't want to have any issues with software licensing (who provides or you bring in non-licensed software), etc. We also had problems with people bringing in things like printers and then having the company pay for ink (that gets expensive) or wireless routers and creating new and unauthorized access points. Beyond even things like people wanting to bring in their own [monitor, video card, sound card, speakers, desktop, etc], we unfortunately faced the issue of dealing with these things (prior to the policy) when on rare occasions someone was fired and IT had to dismantle a PC, etc.
I guess I'm a fan of keeping work and personal apart.
Next thing you'll be telling me is that it can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
Get a clue and open your eyes. STUFF THAT MATTERS. To imply that this isn't stuff for this website shows a lack of familiarity with this website and what it covers.
Or maybe I'm wrong and it doesn't matter...it was just some probably outsourcers anyway, right?
I find it interesting how often non-IT employees are critical of IT. In my experience, it tends to be a user (or users) who have mastered MS Access, created their own cool app and have determined that IT doesn't know it's head from a hole in the ground. We don't need pesky things like documentation, change management, proper design and architecture, data security, etc.--those things just slow us down!
Generally speaking, it seems that the many of the users complaining about IT tend to be part of the root cause of the problems.
Further, it's somewhat annoying how often non-IT people are perfectly willing to explain to IT what is wrong with their organization. However, if the shoe were on the other foot, would it be acceptable for the IT guy to explain why the accounting team doesn't know what they're doing?
Stick to what you know. Do it well. Let the other guy worry about what he knows best.
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No question...fun game AND you could make your own levels. Sweet!
A telemarketer should be just as careful as someone who can get fined by the FAA? Hmmm. When's the last time a telemarketer killed a couple of plane loads of people because of a screw up? Oh yeah, never.
I think it is most interesting to see what the government has decided shouldn't be revealed to the public. Classified sources? Nope. National Security threat? Nope. Poor HR? Yes. Discrimination within the government? Yes.
Not to incite flames, but this speaks volumes about the Bush administration.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you say that reading the book allows you to better frame the question.
I read the book and walked away asking myself (and most of my friends and co-workers) what I REALLY want to do. Do I want to be in my same position a year from now? Five years from now?
I guess what I took from the book was that you need to look at what you've done and figure out how (or if) you can apply it to what you WANT to do.
I also felt that the people in the book that gave up being CEO, COO, being a doctor, lawyer or polital wonk were some of the more enlightening in that they were willing to give up years of education, experience, etc. and strike out at something new. If they could do that, surely my going school to learn photography starts to pale in comparrison.
I can't recommend this book enough if you've ever thought about changing your career or even wondered if there was something else out there.
While the DMA does oppose HR 718 (as does The Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail CAUCE), they are in support of HR 1017, the Anti-Spamming Act of 2001.
Essentially, from what I gather, the DMA opposes HR 718 because it gives the ISPs the right to define their own spam policies and enforce them legally (as opposed to allowing individuals to determine what spam they would like to opt-out of).
Legitimate marketing companies have maintained and adhered to Do Not Solicit lists for years. Companies that broke the rules will continue to break the rules--including ignoring these lists. Heck, the company I worked for maintained a list of over 3,000,000 Do Not Solicits that it had accumulated over the years.
The law allows political calls, charity calls and calls from someone you do business with or have done business with. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say that a majority of the telemarketing calls I receive fall into one of these very broad catagories.
If a company breaks the rules, how are you going to track them down? And if you track them down, what can you do? In the past, all a company has had to do was show that they were making every effort to adhere to the established rules.
If nothing else, perhaps we should all think about the amount of time and money invested in something like this and realize that it's just a phone call. I mean, my phone has a special anti-telemarketer button that came with it--it's that one you press to hang up.
At the company I work for, I have approximately 1500 PCs that fall under my responsibility. Generally, these PCs are purchased in batches of 100 - 150 depending on specific needs at the time.
At some point we ended up with a batch of 150 Compaq's with Fujitsu drives. After a higher than normal failure rate (although I can't say 90%) we were able to get Compaq to listen. They then began sending us replacement drives for every Compaq we had with a Fujitsu drive regardless of whether a specific drive has actually failed at that point.
It's really too bad there aren't enough (any?) sales types that will step up and proactively notify a customer (especially one who does decent--non consumer level--volume) and alert them to a potential problem. Instead, we had the opportunity to figure this one out on our own.
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I believe the difference is that by the time you're facing a breathalyzer--which as you point out, there are penalties for refusing--you've committed some sort of violation. At that point, you're interacting with the police and if they have reason to believe you are under the influence--either due to the previously cited violation or via observable signs (smell of alcohol, slurring of words, etc.)--they can begin the series of tests to confirm their suspicions.
In this case, you're just pulled over and and checked for no valid reason other than everyone is being checked.
Is now when we drag out the "If you haven't done anything wrong, what do you have to worry about" line?
At my previous company, we went the other direction...no personal equipment was allowed. If you needed a tool (e.g. a laptop), it was provided.
We didn't want the liability of damage or theft of someone's personal equipment. Further, we didn't want to deal with things like users bringing in tools that impact the network, we didn't want to have any issues with software licensing (who provides or you bring in non-licensed software), etc. We also had problems with people bringing in things like printers and then having the company pay for ink (that gets expensive) or wireless routers and creating new and unauthorized access points. Beyond even things like people wanting to bring in their own [monitor, video card, sound card, speakers, desktop, etc], we unfortunately faced the issue of dealing with these things (prior to the policy) when on rare occasions someone was fired and IT had to dismantle a PC, etc.
I guess I'm a fan of keeping work and personal apart.
Even better, here's someone who has already built data centers in silos: http://prairiebunkers.com/
Next thing you'll be telling me is that it can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
You mean like the stories on the train bombings in London? http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/ 121258
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Or the stories on Anime?
http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/
The Hitchhiker's Guide?
http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/
Perhaps a tabletop game?
http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/01/16
Or roleplaying?
http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/08
Or a softdrink?
http://books.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/08
Comedy?
http://politics.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/04
Get a clue and open your eyes. STUFF THAT MATTERS. To imply that this isn't stuff for this website shows a lack of familiarity with this website and what it covers.
Or maybe I'm wrong and it doesn't matter...it was just some probably outsourcers anyway, right?
Is it just me or is the timing of this article in somewhat poor taste in light of the train bombings?
I know it happened, and no correlation between the two is being drawn, but come on...
There are over 140 dead in a terrorist attack in Mumbia and we get info on a failed rocket?
Slashdot used to be "Stuff that matters" and not just "News for nerds."
I find it interesting how often non-IT employees are critical of IT. In my experience, it tends to be a user (or users) who have mastered MS Access, created their own cool app and have determined that IT doesn't know it's head from a hole in the ground. We don't need pesky things like documentation, change management, proper design and architecture, data security, etc.--those things just slow us down!
Generally speaking, it seems that the many of the users complaining about IT tend to be part of the root cause of the problems.
Further, it's somewhat annoying how often non-IT people are perfectly willing to explain to IT what is wrong with their organization. However, if the shoe were on the other foot, would it be acceptable for the IT guy to explain why the accounting team doesn't know what they're doing?
Stick to what you know. Do it well. Let the other guy worry about what he knows best.
No question...fun game AND you could make your own levels. Sweet!
They can give one away with each Segway sold. Should kill the iPod in no time.
Two "hot devices" at the same time.
A telemarketer should be just as careful as someone who can get fined by the FAA? Hmmm. When's the last time a telemarketer killed a couple of plane loads of people because of a screw up? Oh yeah, never.
I think it is most interesting to see what the government has decided shouldn't be revealed to the public. Classified sources? Nope. National Security threat? Nope. Poor HR? Yes. Discrimination within the government? Yes.
Not to incite flames, but this speaks volumes about the Bush administration.
Let's not forget about that little thing called licenses.
"...I fired up Virtual PC, installed Windows 2000..." Licensed, I'm sure.
"...I downloaeded Outlook 2001 for OS 8-9..." And I'm sure there were free licenses just laying around since the shop had no Macs.
Part of teh standards--at least in the shop that my ignorant IT folks and I run--includes using licensed software.
Let's not even start on the other previously mentioned difficulties that come with users bringing their own equipment.
I'm glad to see he escaped the World Trade Center in one piece. And it seems as though he's cleaned himself up and gotten a job...or two...or three.
You've obviously never met some of the people who do telemarketing.
That's now claimed the spot for coolest scientific oriented model that I've seen. It moves the San Francisco Bay model down to the number two spot.
Now I just need to find number three...
I think you hit the nail on the head when you say that reading the book allows you to better frame the question.
I read the book and walked away asking myself (and most of my friends and co-workers) what I REALLY want to do. Do I want to be in my same position a year from now? Five years from now?
I guess what I took from the book was that you need to look at what you've done and figure out how (or if) you can apply it to what you WANT to do.
I also felt that the people in the book that gave up being CEO, COO, being a doctor, lawyer or polital wonk were some of the more enlightening in that they were willing to give up years of education, experience, etc. and strike out at something new. If they could do that, surely my going school to learn photography starts to pale in comparrison.
I can't recommend this book enough if you've ever thought about changing your career or even wondered if there was something else out there.
4000 books works out to a book a day for 10.95 years.
4000 books works out to a book every two days for 21.9 years.
And you keep reading them over and over.
And it's mostly SciFi.
Right.
Perhaps further investigation is necessary.
While the DMA does oppose HR 718 (as does The Coalition Against Unsolicited Commercial E-Mail CAUCE), they are in support of HR 1017, the Anti-Spamming Act of 2001.
Essentially, from what I gather, the DMA opposes HR 718 because it gives the ISPs the right to define their own spam policies and enforce them legally (as opposed to allowing individuals to determine what spam they would like to opt-out of).
Legitimate marketing companies have maintained and adhered to Do Not Solicit lists for years. Companies that broke the rules will continue to break the rules--including ignoring these lists. Heck, the company I worked for maintained a list of over 3,000,000 Do Not Solicits that it had accumulated over the years.
The law allows political calls, charity calls and calls from someone you do business with or have done business with. I'm sure I'm not alone when I say that a majority of the telemarketing calls I receive fall into one of these very broad catagories.
If a company breaks the rules, how are you going to track them down? And if you track them down, what can you do? In the past, all a company has had to do was show that they were making every effort to adhere to the established rules.
If nothing else, perhaps we should all think about the amount of time and money invested in something like this and realize that it's just a phone call. I mean, my phone has a special anti-telemarketer button that came with it--it's that one you press to hang up.
At the company I work for, I have approximately 1500 PCs that fall under my responsibility. Generally, these PCs are purchased in batches of 100 - 150 depending on specific needs at the time.
At some point we ended up with a batch of 150 Compaq's with Fujitsu drives. After a higher than normal failure rate (although I can't say 90%) we were able to get Compaq to listen. They then began sending us replacement drives for every Compaq we had with a Fujitsu drive regardless of whether a specific drive has actually failed at that point.
It's really too bad there aren't enough (any?) sales types that will step up and proactively notify a customer (especially one who does decent--non consumer level--volume) and alert them to a potential problem. Instead, we had the opportunity to figure this one out on our own.
There's an old Slashdot article that I couldn't find that pointed out this article about the code for the shuttle.
The implication in this article is that there few bugs in the code to start with (1 bug in 420,000 lines of code).
So was the first article bogus or this open source fantasy about flying a space ship?
It had an innovative price: too much.
Here's a neat little (9x9) free version of The Many Faces of Go. Download Go
It provides a nice taste of go for noobs.
My only thought is that if computers are no good at Go, then I must really stink since I can't even beat the free intro version most of the time.
That's strange, my copy of Mozilla didn't show anything odd. What browser were you using? ;)
The guys who wrote the article must be the same people who calculate how much money the music industry has lost because of file sharing.