It might be worth noting that even when this article was the first item on the Slashdot homepage, the page loaded very quickly. Now, it's pretty obvious that this is guerilla marketing, but it seems to me that this fact just makes it more glaringly obvious that ilovebees.com is not some poor innocent site that got hacked.
Yes, I posted after only quickly skimming the article. I'm guilty. I'm not sure how things work in Japan, but isn't "unlicenced spectrum" exactly that..."unlicenced"...I guess i'm just confused as to how this could be taxed. I mean...I know it CAN be taxed....but it just seems greedy on the government's part. I dunno.
Your ISP doesn't keep track of how much your pulling in and out? How do you think the **AA figure who is "trading files" and who isn't? The people taking in gigs of space and uploading almost as much are considered suspects. They only know how much pipe you use based on what the ISP provides.
Sure, I understand that, but we're not talking about how much bandwidth, were talking about the technology by which that bandwidth is accessed.
Of course my ISP knows how much bandwidth I am using, but as far as I know, there is no way for them to tell that I am using an 802.11x product on my LAN. My post inquires as to how (technically speaking) they could tax 802.11x use.
I can see how they apply a tax to cell phones and other such devices that require an account with a provider, as taxes can be enforced via the normal billing cycle. But how do you tax WiFi? It certainly couldn't be done via the ISP's billing mechanism (right?)...
I'm interested to see how they figure this one out, but I must say...this reminds me of the chainmails of a few years back that claimed the U.S. Government was going to tax email.....
My mind is reeling at the thought that you *might* not be a troll (I have mod points right now and seriously had to restain myself from wasting a point on this), but just in case...
You *DO* realize that the advent of the internet amounts to more than pr0n-on-demand and flash commercials, right? You *must* realize that the internet has done more to foster and empower human communication than any other invention (including cave paintings and the printing press, IMHO). You have got to see that the capabilities for communication that the internet provides yields the potential for *many* new ideas to come to fruition (including ideas that *may* be as much of a "landmark achievement" as splitting the atom, calculus, proving FLT).
Either you are just not paying attention or you are trolling for fun and profit. I will assume the latter.
OH. OK. I assumed when you said If I have to do something that needs to be secure I either use mac osx or linux that you had a Mac running OSX and a linux box lying around, in which case I would question your desision to use XP for media (especially if a mac w/ OSX is available for use)
If you could buy gift certificates with that offer, you would be able to buy $50 dollars of gift cards, and get another $25. Then you could use those cards, to buy more cards. With enough time, you could basically print your own money for the store. (with an initial investment of $50)
Actually, they already had a way around THAT happening as well...the way the "coupons" worked was you not only had to spend $50 to *get* the card, you also had to spend $50 to *redeem* the card ($25 out of your own pocket / $25 covered by the card), so even if the customer hit's $50 right on the nose for both of qualifying purchases, the discount, (in the case, the highest possible discount they could get through this deal) is 25% off their entire qualifying purchases. The company would *still* make a profit, even if people bought nothing but gift cards, because we are talking about a mall chain here, that is selling stuff with waaaaay over a 25% markup (think the type of store that sells $20 tee-shirts). It's not just the company that i worked for that does this either, this type of promotion is fairly common in a lot of mall chain stores.
"Gift Cards" offered by retailers are one of those phenomena in which it pays to read the fine print. Some people would assume, incorrectly, that there is some kind of "set standard" for gift card practices, when, in fact, you don't really know what you are "buying". I worked for a retailer that, on occasion gave away "$25 coupons" (not gift card/certificates) with every "$50 purchase", but, due to fine print in the company's "gift card" policy, the shopper could not apply "gift card purchases" toward that offer. The way the fine print stated it, the "purchase" of a gift card is not a "purchase" at all, as the actual "purchase" occours when the gift card is redeemed.
I always thought this was a little shady, as the customer is actually handing over their money (ie: purchasing) when they buy the gift card, but my company's legal team didn't see it that way, insisting that "gift cards" did not constitute a "product" being purchased, it was simply money exchanged between "accounts".
While this boombox is pretty interesting, there is a way cooler version with 802.11b (allowing people in range to download from the boxes library of songs, upload a new song and manipulate the queue). Plus, it's built into a Lasonic TRC-931 (the 80's breakdancer's dream machine). I saw it on page 090 of the May 2004 Wired Magazine, you could read about it here, and see photos here.
you know, here in san francisco, the attitude takes it even further into the public's hands. i am sitting at a (non-Starbucks) cafe at california and divisidero, and my PCMCIA 802.11b card sniffs not only the free WAP at the cafe proper, but also the chinese restaurant across the street, and the dude around the corner who not only makes his WAP available, but LET'S PEOPLE KNOW. And let's other people know. Pretty soon those people start talking,and even communicating in other ways.
The internet itself has been described as the great equalizer. Grassroots wireless networking has the potential to put one more bullet into the chest of inequality, and then the internet may begin to continue it's evolution from shitstream teevee/radio corporate fuckfest, to the greatest tool mankind has ever made....Then we throw out the dixie cup...
Hmmmm....interesting ideas aout videogames and brainwaves. Researches have known for a long time that various brainwaves patterns are inherant in various psychological disorders and predispositions. I wonder if someone will begin using video games and audio/visual stimuli as treatment for surpluses of particular brainwaves, or shortages of others.
I know it sounds a little sci-fi, but hey, it IS what they are saying RIGHT? It stands to reason that if brainwave levels are the prime indicators of "undesirable" behavior patterns, then maybe video game type therapy may become commonplace in tretment of certain maladys.
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It might be worth noting that even when this article was the first item on the Slashdot homepage, the page loaded very quickly. Now, it's pretty obvious that this is guerilla marketing, but it seems to me that this fact just makes it more glaringly obvious that ilovebees.com is not some poor innocent site that got hacked.
...and his page dosen't validate either....
Hey, thanks..
Yes, I posted after only quickly skimming the article. I'm guilty. I'm not sure how things work in Japan, but isn't "unlicenced spectrum" exactly that..."unlicenced"...I guess i'm just confused as to how this could be taxed. I mean...I know it CAN be taxed....but it just seems greedy on the government's part. I dunno.
I guess I'm dumb
Your ISP doesn't keep track of how much your pulling in and out? How do you think the **AA figure who is "trading files" and who isn't? The people taking in gigs of space and uploading almost as much are considered suspects. They only know how much pipe you use based on what the ISP provides.
Sure, I understand that, but we're not talking about how much bandwidth, were talking about the technology by which that bandwidth is accessed.
Of course my ISP knows how much bandwidth I am using, but as far as I know, there is no way for them to tell that I am using an 802.11x product on my LAN. My post inquires as to how (technically speaking) they could tax 802.11x use.
I can see how they apply a tax to cell phones and other such devices that require an account with a provider, as taxes can be enforced via the normal billing cycle. But how do you tax WiFi? It certainly couldn't be done via the ISP's billing mechanism (right?)...
I'm interested to see how they figure this one out, but I must say...this reminds me of the chainmails of a few years back that claimed the U.S. Government was going to tax email.....
Probably a good idea to post AC on that one.
My mind is reeling at the thought that you *might* not be a troll (I have mod points right now and seriously had to restain myself from wasting a point on this), but just in case...
You *DO* realize that the advent of the internet amounts to more than pr0n-on-demand and flash commercials, right? You *must* realize that the internet has done more to foster and empower human communication than any other invention (including cave paintings and the printing press, IMHO). You have got to see that the capabilities for communication that the internet provides yields the potential for *many* new ideas to come to fruition (including ideas that *may* be as much of a "landmark achievement" as splitting the atom, calculus, proving FLT).
Either you are just not paying attention or you are trolling for fun and profit. I will assume the latter.
what makes you think they record the items you listed? seriously. i'm curious how you've come to this conclusion.
OH. OK. I assumed when you said If I have to do something that needs to be secure I either use mac osx or linux that you had a Mac running OSX and a linux box lying around, in which case I would question your desision to use XP for media (especially if a mac w/ OSX is available for use)
as theres is no Service Pack 2 XP Cd out
There is no official XP SP2 CDs out.
But don't let that stop you...
I've only kept my XP box around for games, movies, and entertainment
I can see your point with games...but movies and entertainment? What can XP do that linux and mac cannot in the media arena?
My god I wish I hadn't spent my entire batch of (latest) mod points, I would have gladly blown them on this post. Well said. Bravo!
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http://www3.telus.net/public/gsell/ly/
I made a quick and dirty PDF (with the cover art) for those of you who aren't into reading flat text files (i prefer PDF's myself).
http://www3.telus.net/public/gsell/ly/
Very interesting! Thanks for the link, chacking out the software now.
I am unaware of open source software that meets the functionality of PWSEX or LC5.
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If you could buy gift certificates with that offer, you would be able to buy $50 dollars of gift cards, and get another $25. Then you could use those cards, to buy more cards. With enough time, you could basically print your own money for the store. (with an initial investment of $50)
Actually, they already had a way around THAT happening as well...the way the "coupons" worked was you not only had to spend $50 to *get* the card, you also had to spend $50 to *redeem* the card ($25 out of your own pocket / $25 covered by the card), so even if the customer hit's $50 right on the nose for both of qualifying purchases, the discount, (in the case, the highest possible discount they could get through this deal) is 25% off their entire qualifying purchases. The company would *still* make a profit, even if people bought nothing but gift cards, because we are talking about a mall chain here, that is selling stuff with waaaaay over a 25% markup (think the type of store that sells $20 tee-shirts). It's not just the company that i worked for that does this either, this type of promotion is fairly common in a lot of mall chain stores.
"Gift Cards" offered by retailers are one of those phenomena in which it pays to read the fine print. Some people would assume, incorrectly, that there is some kind of "set standard" for gift card practices, when, in fact, you don't really know what you are "buying". I worked for a retailer that, on occasion gave away "$25 coupons" (not gift card/certificates) with every "$50 purchase", but, due to fine print in the company's "gift card" policy, the shopper could not apply "gift card purchases" toward that offer. The way the fine print stated it, the "purchase" of a gift card is not a "purchase" at all, as the actual "purchase" occours when the gift card is redeemed.
I always thought this was a little shady, as the customer is actually handing over their money (ie: purchasing) when they buy the gift card, but my company's legal team didn't see it that way, insisting that "gift cards" did not constitute a "product" being purchased, it was simply money exchanged between "accounts".
Neither can "Silverware" or "Ladies wear".
You could have "love in an elevator" *AND* join the "mile high club" at the same time!
While this boombox is pretty interesting, there is a way cooler version with 802.11b (allowing people in range to download from the boxes library of songs, upload a new song and manipulate the queue). Plus, it's built into a Lasonic TRC-931 (the 80's breakdancer's dream machine). I saw it on page 090 of the May 2004 Wired Magazine, you could read about it here, and see photos here.
you know, here in san francisco, the attitude takes it even further into the public's hands. i am sitting at a (non-Starbucks) cafe at california and divisidero, and my PCMCIA 802.11b card sniffs not only the free WAP at the cafe proper, but also the chinese restaurant across the street, and the dude around the corner who not only makes his WAP available, but LET'S PEOPLE KNOW. And let's other people know. Pretty soon those people start talking,and even communicating in other ways.
...Then we throw out the dixie cup...
The internet itself has been described as the great equalizer. Grassroots wireless networking has the potential to put one more bullet into the chest of inequality, and then the internet may begin to continue it's evolution from shitstream teevee/radio corporate fuckfest, to the greatest tool mankind has ever made.
Hmmmm....interesting ideas aout videogames and brainwaves. Researches have known for a long time that various brainwaves patterns are inherant in various psychological disorders and predispositions. I wonder if someone will begin using video games and audio/visual stimuli as treatment for surpluses of particular brainwaves, or shortages of others.
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I know it sounds a little sci-fi, but hey, it IS what they are saying RIGHT? It stands to reason that if brainwave levels are the prime indicators of "undesirable" behavior patterns, then maybe video game type therapy may become commonplace in tretment of certain maladys.
just my