So, you can use English to state the illogical. What does that prove? You can use a gun to shoot yourself instead of defend yourself too. They're just tools.
I think it highly illogical for techno-geeks to enjoy Star Wars (cf. your.sig), but a lot of you do regardless.
sounds kind of ignorant, to label all believers in religion as stupid.
I agree (I'm an atheist).
In a similar manner, I could label all theoretical physicists as stupid, since they too are choosing to believe things that they cannot prove, or see.
Uh, pardon? I'm under the impression there's an incredibly elaborate system (science) that goes to extraordinary lengths to prove their postulations. Electron microscopes have imaged discrete atoms, and a couple of cities in Japan have seen first hand the results of what you can do with that knowledge, not to mention all the nuclear reactors throughout the world, and the electronic devices we all live with.
I postulate that the religious are susceptible to a very mild form of schizophrenia. They want to believe in voices they hear in their heads, and other "things that go bump in the night."
It's easier for them than accepting things they can't, or don't want to bother to, understand.
Did you even read that? It mentions Coudere sending out identical readings to complete strangers, 200 of which thanked him for the accurate reading. James Randi did much the same thing, handing out identical readings to full classes. "Now, pass your reading to the person in front of you."
It's a con job! You should be shagrined (at least) for having fallen for it. It's not even a very good con.
The zodiac signs are based on the four seasons and their beginning,...
The whole damned thing is based on the fact that a fool and his money are soon parted. Damn, it's depressing to see people still believing in BS like astrology, and proudly demonstrating their gullibility on a 21st Century technically oriented web forum!
No, I'm not new here; just still sick of seeing it go on and on and on. If I vetted technical hires, stuff like this would instantly disqualify applicants. If they believed in claptrap like this, $DEITY knows what other gibberish they'd use to explain their incompetence in the future.
Besides, I think everyone reading/. on any semi-regular basis already knows about the whole "capturing anti-matter" thing, so no need to repeat stuff like you're the only one who keeps up on the news.
You're assuming everyone has kept up on this news. It might be new to somebody, in which case this is incredibly helpful.
As much as I enjoy hangin' out with y'all here on/., I very much doubt that anti-matter specialists come here for the latest news on their specialty. Cern Courier, Physics Today, and Symmetry Magazine are fun reading, though perhaps some real physicists (I'm not one) can suggest better.
Not to single you out personally, but this thread is supposedly about an under-ice lake in Antarctica, and you guys are arguing about Sarah Palin's popularity numbers on/.?
Why the !@#$ isn't this whole thread modded -99 off-topic?
The second question is what kinds of results would it take to be 'interesting'?
Any. And you'd be the first.
Did you sleep through last month? Flying reindeer, fat guy in red with a crew of elves building toys at a secret North Pole base, all personally delivered in one night to most of Europe and the Western hemisphere (at least), access via chimney B&E!
Proof? What was under your tree the next morning?
Otherwise nice people teach this stuff to their children. No, they don't really believe it for themselves. They do apparently think nothing of believing in vampires and other assorted monsters. Proof? Hollywood, SciFy/SpaceChannel/DiscoveryChannel, the daily newspaper (Astrology), J. K. Rowling...
A couple of months from now, it'll be the Easter Bunny, followed by witches and goblins at Halloween.
Harmless fun, cultural flavor, or a deep dependence on fantastical phenomena? You'll forever be talking to a brick wall trying to wake people up from this stuff. Lack of proof in favour of things that go bump in the night is irrelevant to them. They want to believe in BS.
Just seeing the contortions you guys go through to make backticks and tildes work makes me wonder how many months you wasted figuring that bit out. You could have been doing something useful/valuable instead.
I wasted 0.000004 months figuring that out.
You'd have saved that time by learning better scripting skills. Backticks have been deprecated for a long time (ambiguous nesting - use $(blah) instead), and I don't know where you'd NEED to use a tilde (bare "cd" takes you $HOME).
I also wish you people would learn to use blockquote.
See, I don't want a hand-held computer -- I want a phone.
I have no interest in reading my email on my phone. [...] Receive calls, place calls, check voicemail -- that's about it.
Then why are you reading an article about doing something on a phone that you don't want them to do?
To try to understand why the fsck you guys want to, ffs! Surf the web, ssh -X, on a cell phone?!? I'm with him. I think that's nuts. Yeah, an N900 Linux box I can carry in my pocket sounds very cool, but geez, I've seen a web browser on my ancient (2008) Nokia 3500, and if anything you're seeing looks anything like that, well, you've all lost it.
Much less, I shudder to think what a 4G monthly phone bill in the US looks like. Or are your managers paying the bills? That strikes me as even nuttier, on their part.
Sysadmin used to be you got called at 0300h when something broke, and you went in/telnetted in/ssh'd in and fixed it. ssh -X on a cellphone?!?
Just seeing the contortions you guys go through to make backticks and tildes work makes me wonder how many months you wasted figuring that bit out. You could have been doing something useful/valuable instead.
This implies that the box isn't doing anything of any value. In the real world, they are, and it's insane to risk the corp. on guessing whether it'll continue to stay up.
Or it may be doing something distributed that can be handled by the others since there's overhead designed into the system. Google is an extreme example of this.
I wasn't thinking of ops that run high availability failover servers. I was thinking of the ones who're still running ancient Solaris boxes running "critical" FTP servers. Yeah, they do tend to run for damned near forever, but betting "critical" infra on that is short-sighted at best. If it's really critical, it's going to cost big-time when it does eventually fail. That's what that nominal CIO is betting s/he can get away with until s/he moves on.
The price of replacing things may be getting cheaper faster than the implied cost of the risk of not replacing it is going up. It may be cheaper to wait until it breaks than to buy something with a rapidly depreciating value.
This implies that the box isn't doing anything of any value. In the real world, they are, and it's insane to risk the corp. on guessing whether it'll continue to stay up.
Oh, you've noticed we can no longer build bridges (and when we try to fix them it takes 4x as long as it took to build them)
Meanwhile, Cairo, Rome, and London's sewers and garbage systems continue to work. Those cities are a thousand years old! They continue to work because geeks TRY to find a way, despite the challenges and their Princes' inclinations. Think William Penn. "We need to start over, and it's going to be expensive, but ya gotta suck it up, 'cause it needs to be done!"
Cf. "Man up" and related (silly) platitudes. Tell the Boss what needs to be done, and damn the consequences! Then it's his problem to explain. I know, the shareholders are too greedy and The Board just wants to retain control and keep their jobs and ludicrous bonuses...
Just saying, some of us manage to make a difference, but you're just giving up? Too easy. I hope you're not Irish, with drinking water pipes bursting in the streets from poor maintenance.
You would have a very difficult time convincing a jury that you didn't know your phone's password. It's not like trying to remember the password you used on Amazon or Monoprice or Newegg six months ago; it's the one you use every time you unlock your phone.
My Linux boxes have long uptimes. I don't reboot them any more than they need to be rebooted. It's entirely conceivable to me that my root pword on a box may have last been used half a year ago. Add sudo into the mix.
Ramp that thought up to typical users. "root's pword? What's that? WTF did I write that root pword down? Dammit!?! Aargh!"
Typical users expect their browser to remember pwords. Expecting them to handle this by themselves is not realistic these days. I think it would be damned simple to convince even a non-technically minded jury of this. They'd sympathize immediately.
this is why i store my data in the cloud and not on my personal phone.
Was that intended to be a joke? Your important data is stored $OUTTHERESOMEWHERE on some server over which you've little to no control, and you consider that safer than putting it on a box/machine over which only you have control? Really?!? You're a Mac guy, yes?
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So, you can use English to state the illogical. What does that prove? You can use a gun to shoot yourself instead of defend yourself too. They're just tools.
I think it highly illogical for techno-geeks to enjoy Star Wars (cf. your .sig), but a lot of you do regardless.
I agree (I'm an atheist).
Uh, pardon? I'm under the impression there's an incredibly elaborate system (science) that goes to extraordinary lengths to prove their postulations. Electron microscopes have imaged discrete atoms, and a couple of cities in Japan have seen first hand the results of what you can do with that knowledge, not to mention all the nuclear reactors throughout the world, and the electronic devices we all live with.
I postulate that the religious are susceptible to a very mild form of schizophrenia. They want to believe in voices they hear in their heads, and other "things that go bump in the night."
It's easier for them than accepting things they can't, or don't want to bother to, understand.
Some of us care about fine details, damnit!
Well, some of us don't fscking care. WTF is MHTML?!?
Holy boring, Batman.
I think you missed Go, trebuchets, pasta, and grenades, at least. There's probably more. Go's 4k a. old. They may even have invented pyramids.
ACs! Holy crap.
"... China was roundly condemned for its lack of freedom and tolerance ..."
Ha, ha ha ha haaaa! Where have you been sleeping lately, Rip? Look up "Cultural Revolution", FFS, idiot.
An AC's voice is all they need. All else is noise, for all of us. All output, no signal.
You're right. I'll wear a "Whoosh!" for that one. I saw the "scientific studies in support" bit, and went ballistic.
[Apologies to Santa Claus for the misspell; my fault.]
Did you even read that? It mentions Coudere sending out identical readings to complete strangers, 200 of which thanked him for the accurate reading. James Randi did much the same thing, handing out identical readings to full classes. "Now, pass your reading to the person in front of you."
It's a con job! You should be shagrined (at least) for having fallen for it. It's not even a very good con.
No, the easy answer is that his belief in astrology tells us a hell of a lot more about him than whatever our astrology sign du jour tells about us.
FTFY. You're a confidence artist's mark. If I tell you a bunch of pretty sounding BS, will you send me money too please?
Ha! Good one. Cite?
I can't believe we're wasting our time even discussing this.
Sorry bud, but belief in astrology is a pretty damning indictment. Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause, pass. Astrology, "Thanks for your time. Next!"
The whole damned thing is based on the fact that a fool and his money are soon parted. Damn, it's depressing to see people still believing in BS like astrology, and proudly demonstrating their gullibility on a 21st Century technically oriented web forum!
No, I'm not new here; just still sick of seeing it go on and on and on. If I vetted technical hires, stuff like this would instantly disqualify applicants. If they believed in claptrap like this, $DEITY knows what other gibberish they'd use to explain their incompetence in the future.
Grr ...
As much as I enjoy hangin' out with y'all here on /., I very much doubt that anti-matter specialists come here for the latest news on their specialty. Cern Courier, Physics Today, and Symmetry Magazine are fun reading, though perhaps some real physicists (I'm not one) can suggest better.
Not to single you out personally, but this thread is supposedly about an under-ice lake in Antarctica, and you guys are arguing about Sarah Palin's popularity numbers on /.?
Why the !@#$ isn't this whole thread modded -99 off-topic?
Did you sleep through last month? Flying reindeer, fat guy in red with a crew of elves building toys at a secret North Pole base, all personally delivered in one night to most of Europe and the Western hemisphere (at least), access via chimney B&E!
Proof? What was under your tree the next morning?
Otherwise nice people teach this stuff to their children. No, they don't really believe it for themselves. They do apparently think nothing of believing in vampires and other assorted monsters. Proof? Hollywood, SciFy/SpaceChannel/DiscoveryChannel, the daily newspaper (Astrology), J. K. Rowling ...
A couple of months from now, it'll be the Easter Bunny, followed by witches and goblins at Halloween.
Harmless fun, cultural flavor, or a deep dependence on fantastical phenomena? You'll forever be talking to a brick wall trying to wake people up from this stuff. Lack of proof in favour of things that go bump in the night is irrelevant to them. They want to believe in BS.
You'd have saved that time by learning better scripting skills. Backticks have been deprecated for a long time (ambiguous nesting - use $(blah) instead), and I don't know where you'd NEED to use a tilde (bare "cd" takes you $HOME).
I also wish you people would learn to use blockquote.
To try to understand why the fsck you guys want to, ffs! Surf the web, ssh -X, on a cell phone?!? I'm with him. I think that's nuts. Yeah, an N900 Linux box I can carry in my pocket sounds very cool, but geez, I've seen a web browser on my ancient (2008) Nokia 3500, and if anything you're seeing looks anything like that, well, you've all lost it.
Much less, I shudder to think what a 4G monthly phone bill in the US looks like. Or are your managers paying the bills? That strikes me as even nuttier, on their part.
Sysadmin used to be you got called at 0300h when something broke, and you went in/telnetted in/ssh'd in and fixed it. ssh -X on a cellphone?!?
Just seeing the contortions you guys go through to make backticks and tildes work makes me wonder how many months you wasted figuring that bit out. You could have been doing something useful/valuable instead.
I wasn't thinking of ops that run high availability failover servers. I was thinking of the ones who're still running ancient Solaris boxes running "critical" FTP servers. Yeah, they do tend to run for damned near forever, but betting "critical" infra on that is short-sighted at best. If it's really critical, it's going to cost big-time when it does eventually fail. That's what that nominal CIO is betting s/he can get away with until s/he moves on.
This implies that the box isn't doing anything of any value. In the real world, they are, and it's insane to risk the corp. on guessing whether it'll continue to stay up.
That CIO is one in name only, and should be shot.
AC (sorry):
Meanwhile, Cairo, Rome, and London's sewers and garbage systems continue to work. Those cities are a thousand years old! They continue to work because geeks TRY to find a way, despite the challenges and their Princes' inclinations. Think William Penn. "We need to start over, and it's going to be expensive, but ya gotta suck it up, 'cause it needs to be done!"
Cf. "Man up" and related (silly) platitudes. Tell the Boss what needs to be done, and damn the consequences! Then it's his problem to explain. I know, the shareholders are too greedy and The Board just wants to retain control and keep their jobs and ludicrous bonuses ...
Just saying, some of us manage to make a difference, but you're just giving up? Too easy. I hope you're not Irish, with drinking water pipes bursting in the streets from poor maintenance.
Not that I give a rat's ass what MS does, but I'd like to know why everyone ignores the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inuvik#Climate blatantly obvious choice.
North Shore Alaska instead, if you're timid. Siberia for added spice?
My Linux boxes have long uptimes. I don't reboot them any more than they need to be rebooted. It's entirely conceivable to me that my root pword on a box may have last been used half a year ago. Add sudo into the mix.
Ramp that thought up to typical users. "root's pword? What's that? WTF did I write that root pword down? Dammit!?! Aargh!"
Typical users expect their browser to remember pwords. Expecting them to handle this by themselves is not realistic these days. I think it would be damned simple to convince even a non-technically minded jury of this. They'd sympathize immediately.
Was that intended to be a joke? Your important data is stored $OUTTHERESOMEWHERE on some server over which you've little to no control, and you consider that safer than putting it on a box/machine over which only you have control? Really?!? You're a Mac guy, yes?
Heard about the bridge I have for sale?