They don't have a leg to stand on when they accuse companies of price fixing when technology seems to move quickly and prices keep falling.
CRTs had a long run, from ca. the forties through the early 21st Century. Going to these lengths, these companies were probably just trying to wring the last few pennies out of a soon to be obsolete tech.
Governments are supposed to exist only to protect individual freedoms...
Shareholders are ultimately individuals. Whether these anti-competitive laws are right or wrong, these people knew these rules were in place and chose to ignore them for short term gain. These companies' officers should be on the hook for the fines, and the companies for hiring incompetent/corrupt officers.
Personally though I don't think that will stop this sort of behavior unless you also start sentencing the CEO's, boards and other senior leadership who was running these companies at the time to long prison sentences and high fines (and preferably figure out in what bank paradises they have their cash hidden so that you can take it back )
The companies found at fault in this, and/or their shareholders, should be doing that to recoup their losses.
I'm not advocating violent revolution. All I'm saying is governments only exist because we individuals generally agree that they can be of some use to us. That's what's important; not what politicians or bureaucrats or rulers want. Their opinions are irrelevant. If our governments aren't focussed on that, then they need to be redirected so that they are.
Educate your elected representatives, or swap them out for someone else who can be.
You did. You said the button fscked up, when it really was you.
It's not fatal (as in "damns you for all time"). Don't blame your tools for your mistakes. Learn from your mistakes. Better yet, learn from others' mistakes.:-)
Europeans tend to be strongly opposed to the excesses of the copyright lobby, and strongly supportive of freedom of file sharing. The politicians even listen to them on this subject, as the official political representation shows.
I hope you are kidding here.
I hope you're wrong.
Our online rights are slowly but steadily degraded. All network connections logged for 1-2 years (varies on country). Emails logged sender, addressed and subject.
VPN?
Active blocklists blocking sites like the piratebay.
Ptheh. Easily surmountable.
3 Strikes law in France.
... whose current politicos want to get rid of it.
Netherlands developing laws to make 'downloads' illegal soon.
Rioting in the streets.
Britain that has laws to force someone to tell their passwords, which other countries obviously find a good idea.
Yup.
Netherlands that has the most phone- and internet taps in the world, in absolute numbers even higher than the USA. Etc etc.
I hadn't heard that before.
Politicians that listen would be Utopia. Put off your pink glasses and you'll see that the situation is actually worse than in the USA, albeit a bit more diverse.
It's academic anyway, because this is a ruling that will get overturned in the EU for being in conflict with basic freedom of speech. Encryption of communications is not illegal in EU.
Doubtful. Remember, we're dealing with people who have a vested interest in declaring copyright infringement as 'theft of ideas'.
You're wrong. The Poles, then most of the rest of Europe, screamed loud enough that their politicos backed down. The EU is not the US. The MafiAA doesn't own EU politicos, and in fact they seem to be losing pretty much every battle fought there (though Finland, Sweden, and France (and often Germany) appear to be trying to fight that trend, and the war may already be lost in the UK).
Hotspots are often found at restaurants, train stations, airports, libraries, hotels, hospitals, coffee shops, bookstores, fuel stations, department stores, supermarkets, RV parks and campgrounds, public pay phones, and other public places. Many universities and schools have wireless networks in their campus.
There is also the preponderance of smartphones and tablets...
Well, there's your problem!
(despite the seemingly luddite/. groupthink that they're faddish....)
Luddites believed their livelihoods were threatened by technological progress (ie. horse & buggy vs. automobiles)./., traditionally, just hates stupidly implemented technology; ie. smartphones and tablets.
They're just one step from taking them to the vet and "chipping" them.
I suspect they may already have gotten to that.
I've often wondered, after all the US' TLAs have done (South & Central America (United Fruit/Chiquita Banana), Cuba (Bay of Pigs), S. E. Asia (VietNam), The Cold War,...), why hasn't sufficient provocation been found yet for the US military to roll over Saudi Arabia? Grenada and Panama ranked, so why not SA? They couldn't hope to stop the US. You'd think it would be a drop dead simple (practically bloodless coup even) solution to "The Troubles" in the Middle East. Forget Iran; blow away the House of Saud, and doesn't that area become a lot more friendly for everyone, including Iran and Israel? Doesn't Saudi Arabia have a lot of oil, after all? It'd even pee off Pakistan and Indonesia, woohoo!
Does Prince Bandar have pics of JFK raping kittens and puppies or something?!?
To provide some sort of weak analogy take the 5 boroughs of New York and imagine that in Staten Island, Bronx and Queens no one has ever gone to a school.
Granting your "weak analogy" comment, I have to point out that I don't think Mohammad, Jesus and his Apostles, Moses, Buddha... were college graduates. It very often appears these days that so-called "higher education" is an inhibitor more than it it is an enabler.
I have to admit I'd be tempted to vote for a guy who wasn't a total jerk even at 17.
Oh, come on. Who wasn't a total jerk at times when he was 17? I was, and I'm absolutely positive you were too. Most seventeen year olds eventually grow up.
When you can't use logic and evidence to defend your beliefs, violence is all you have left.
Well, you could just walk away shaking your head in disbelief. Really, what's it to anyone if that $DIPSHIT over there agrees with you? Why care about him/her? $DEITY will sort that out eventually. That's not your problem, is it?
I usually have quite high karma in Slashdot, but I've started playing my comments down to avoid bullies.
I cannot understand that attitude. I'd take it as a challenge. Give them enough rope to hang themselves, publicly! Backing down gets you nowhere. You're just making it easier for the next kid to be bullied!
So, you agree that the smart kids in the summary were doing the smart thing in submitting to bullies, lying low, trying to hide their ability?
Some people don't like getting their faces flushed down the toilet every day. No, it's not right, but it happens. Your best bet is to shut your mouth, get good grades, and get the fuck out of Dodge.
No, your best bet is to publicly humiliate him, and there's a million ways to do that. Your way is the coward's way. I don't want to merely survive bullying. I want him to learn a lesson in humility that he'll never forget or get over, so he'll never want to bully anyone else in the future.
If someone slaps you, don't slap 'em back. Hit 'em with a baseball bat! Make it so their sisters break out in giggles every time they show their face in public. The choice is tough love, or you're encouraging another potential Jeffrey Dahmer.
make everyone else look like dumbasses. Of course you are going to beat the shit out of them.
Spoken like the true homophobic dipsh*t you are! I just posted a comment re. that even hacker communities are infested with bullying a.k.a. "homophobia," Slashdot being no exception.
You put too much into a username. Yeah, "Hetero Good" is pretty silly, but going from that doofus's rant/username to "Slashdot is homophobic", and hacker communities are infested with bullying, and bullying == homophobia?
I've been bullied. I'm not gay. Step back, and look at what you're claiming.
I'm in my early 20's.... Times have changed and I do think children are meaner than what they use to.
I think it may always appear that way. Children have always been uncivilized brutes needing direction not to be. They're dependent upon their parents to give them that direction. That's what's really lacking, especially nowadays.
... the really smart ones were smart enough to figure out keeping your head down was the best option.
Sometimes, you ACs really piss me off. So, you agree that the smart kids in the summary were doing the smart thing in submitting to bullies, lying low, trying to hide their ability?
I could write an essay detailing a thousand things wrong with what you wrote there. You're not worth the effort. The last bully who picked on me was fawning and grovelling at my feet the next day ashamed at what he'd tried, and failed miserably, to do to me. I knew all along that he would and anything he did to me wasn't going to be in the least permanent, and I'd end up with the upper hand.
He wasn't really all that bad a guy once you got to know him. He was just intimidated by people who were smarter than him. He had no idea why.
I think this story and all the noise about $/GB shows that a price per record would have been a better solution.
That's not bad, depending on the length of the records/tuples. I think managers who could think beyond tying their shoelaces would've been better.
The summary was wrong, yes. It should've mentioned the QoS they were getting for that $3k/GB, and mentioning database backups would've helped; summary fail. Still, what's a db export/restore really cost? $3k/GB/yr? Hell, no. Not unless there's a crapload of GBs involved and a seriously busy db pulling in a crapload of sales/sec. In which case, they ought to be spending a lot more than they are on IT.
No it's not, it's merely a prerequisite, which makes IT at most an enabler, not a driver. And in most organization IT is not even an enabler, it's a cost center and in some cases a straightforward liability.
Ah, you're an accountant or in Finance, right? Please accept my apologies for wasting any time on you.
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They don't have a leg to stand on when they accuse companies of price fixing when technology seems to move quickly and prices keep falling.
CRTs had a long run, from ca. the forties through the early 21st Century. Going to these lengths, these companies were probably just trying to wring the last few pennies out of a soon to be obsolete tech.
Governments are supposed to exist only to protect individual freedoms ...
Shareholders are ultimately individuals. Whether these anti-competitive laws are right or wrong, these people knew these rules were in place and chose to ignore them for short term gain. These companies' officers should be on the hook for the fines, and the companies for hiring incompetent/corrupt officers.
Personally though I don't think that will stop this sort of behavior unless you also start sentencing the CEO's, boards and other senior leadership who was running these companies at the time to long prison sentences and high fines (and preferably figure out in what bank paradises they have their cash hidden so that you can take it back )
The companies found at fault in this, and/or their shareholders, should be doing that to recoup their losses.
I'm not advocating violent revolution. All I'm saying is governments only exist because we individuals generally agree that they can be of some use to us. That's what's important; not what politicians or bureaucrats or rulers want. Their opinions are irrelevant. If our governments aren't focussed on that, then they need to be redirected so that they are.
Educate your elected representatives, or swap them out for someone else who can be.
Shorter Vint Cerf: Some proposals would actually allow sovereign governments to enforce their sovereignty, as bad as that may be.
Even shorter: why should we care about sovereign governments? We should care about individuals. Screw the cartels; all of them!
Anyone can find a match...
BS. "Getting laid" != "making love".
Hangin' out in any bar on a Friday night might get you laid, but it's not the same thing as finding a soul you want to entrust your genome with.
P. S. Your font !@#$, and makes you appear stupid. Just sayin'.
Who said I was good at this
You did. You said the button fscked up, when it really was you.
It's not fatal (as in "damns you for all time"). Don't blame your tools for your mistakes. Learn from your mistakes. Better yet, learn from others' mistakes. :-)
Europeans tend to be strongly opposed to the excesses of the copyright lobby, and strongly supportive of freedom of file sharing. The politicians even listen to them on this subject, as the official political representation shows.
I hope you are kidding here.
I hope you're wrong.
Our online rights are slowly but steadily degraded. All network connections logged for 1-2 years (varies on country). Emails logged sender, addressed and subject.
VPN?
Active blocklists blocking sites like the piratebay.
Ptheh. Easily surmountable.
3 Strikes law in France.
... whose current politicos want to get rid of it.
Netherlands developing laws to make 'downloads' illegal soon.
Rioting in the streets.
Britain that has laws to force someone to tell their passwords, which other countries obviously find a good idea.
Yup.
Netherlands that has the most phone- and internet taps in the world, in absolute numbers even higher than the USA. Etc etc.
I hadn't heard that before.
Politicians that listen would be Utopia. Put off your pink glasses and you'll see that the situation is actually worse than in the USA, albeit a bit more diverse.
Learn something new every day ... Thanks.
It's academic anyway, because this is a ruling that will get overturned in the EU for being in conflict with basic freedom of speech. Encryption of communications is not illegal in EU.
Doubtful. Remember, we're dealing with people who have a vested interest in declaring copyright infringement as 'theft of ideas'.
You're wrong. The Poles, then most of the rest of Europe, screamed loud enough that their politicos backed down. The EU is not the US. The MafiAA doesn't own EU politicos, and in fact they seem to be losing pretty much every battle fought there (though Finland, Sweden, and France (and often Germany) appear to be trying to fight that trend, and the war may already be lost in the UK).
ARM boards are so cheap and light on power that I bet people will be installing them out of sight wherever a trickle of current won't be detected.
Also the whole bit about ... y'know, having access to Internet.
Where's it illegal to tap into an open AP?
Hotspots are often found at restaurants, train stations, airports, libraries, hotels, hospitals, coffee shops, bookstores, fuel stations, department stores, supermarkets, RV parks and campgrounds, public pay phones, and other public places. Many universities and schools have wireless networks in their campus.
There is also the preponderance of smartphones and tablets ...
Well, there's your problem!
(despite the seemingly luddite /. groupthink that they're faddish....)
Luddites believed their livelihoods were threatened by technological progress (ie. horse & buggy vs. automobiles). /., traditionally, just hates stupidly implemented technology; ie. smartphones and tablets.
Now GTFOML.
Stupid mod button was supposed to be insightful
A good carpenter doesn't blame his tools. "Stupid mod button"; Jeebus!
They're just one step from taking them to the vet and "chipping" them.
I suspect they may already have gotten to that.
I've often wondered, after all the US' TLAs have done (South & Central America (United Fruit/Chiquita Banana), Cuba (Bay of Pigs), S. E. Asia (VietNam), The Cold War, ...), why hasn't sufficient provocation been found yet for the US military to roll over Saudi Arabia? Grenada and Panama ranked, so why not SA? They couldn't hope to stop the US. You'd think it would be a drop dead simple (practically bloodless coup even) solution to "The Troubles" in the Middle East. Forget Iran; blow away the House of Saud, and doesn't that area become a lot more friendly for everyone, including Iran and Israel? Doesn't Saudi Arabia have a lot of oil, after all? It'd even pee off Pakistan and Indonesia, woohoo!
Does Prince Bandar have pics of JFK raping kittens and puppies or something?!?
"... let's just tell all of their women to come to the West where they will be appreciated."
How, pray tell, can they do that without permission from their (slave?) masters?
To provide some sort of weak analogy take the 5 boroughs of New York and imagine that in Staten Island, Bronx and Queens no one has ever gone to a school.
Granting your "weak analogy" comment, I have to point out that I don't think Mohammad, Jesus and his Apostles, Moses, Buddha ... were college graduates. It very often appears these days that so-called "higher education" is an inhibitor more than it it is an enabler.
I have to admit I'd be tempted to vote for a guy who wasn't a total jerk even at 17.
Oh, come on. Who wasn't a total jerk at times when he was 17? I was, and I'm absolutely positive you were too. Most seventeen year olds eventually grow up.
When you can't use logic and evidence to defend your beliefs, violence is all you have left.
Well, you could just walk away shaking your head in disbelief. Really, what's it to anyone if that $DIPSHIT over there agrees with you? Why care about him/her? $DEITY will sort that out eventually. That's not your problem, is it?
Indians
Asshole. Internet: See Techdirt.
People plus govt. plus Internet == clusterfuck, these days. Get used to it. This crap's going to go on for a long time.
I usually have quite high karma in Slashdot, but I've started playing my comments down to avoid bullies.
I cannot understand that attitude. I'd take it as a challenge. Give them enough rope to hang themselves, publicly! Backing down gets you nowhere. You're just making it easier for the next kid to be bullied!
So, you agree that the smart kids in the summary were doing the smart thing in submitting to bullies, lying low, trying to hide their ability?
Some people don't like getting their faces flushed down the toilet every day. No, it's not right, but it happens. Your best bet is to shut your mouth, get good grades, and get the fuck out of Dodge.
No, your best bet is to publicly humiliate him, and there's a million ways to do that. Your way is the coward's way. I don't want to merely survive bullying. I want him to learn a lesson in humility that he'll never forget or get over, so he'll never want to bully anyone else in the future.
If someone slaps you, don't slap 'em back. Hit 'em with a baseball bat! Make it so their sisters break out in giggles every time they show their face in public. The choice is tough love, or you're encouraging another potential Jeffrey Dahmer.
make everyone else look like dumbasses. Of course you are going to beat the shit out of them.
Spoken like the true homophobic dipsh*t you are! I just posted a comment re. that even hacker communities are infested with bullying a.k.a. "homophobia," Slashdot being no exception.
You put too much into a username. Yeah, "Hetero Good" is pretty silly, but going from that doofus's rant/username to "Slashdot is homophobic", and hacker communities are infested with bullying, and bullying == homophobia?
I've been bullied. I'm not gay. Step back, and look at what you're claiming.
I'm in my early 20's. ... Times have changed and I do think children are meaner than what they use to.
I think it may always appear that way. Children have always been uncivilized brutes needing direction not to be. They're dependent upon their parents to give them that direction. That's what's really lacking, especially nowadays.
... the really smart ones were smart enough to figure out keeping your head down was the best option.
Sometimes, you ACs really piss me off. So, you agree that the smart kids in the summary were doing the smart thing in submitting to bullies, lying low, trying to hide their ability?
I could write an essay detailing a thousand things wrong with what you wrote there. You're not worth the effort. The last bully who picked on me was fawning and grovelling at my feet the next day ashamed at what he'd tried, and failed miserably, to do to me. I knew all along that he would and anything he did to me wasn't going to be in the least permanent, and I'd end up with the upper hand.
He wasn't really all that bad a guy once you got to know him. He was just intimidated by people who were smarter than him. He had no idea why.
I think this story and all the noise about $/GB shows that a price per record would have been a better solution.
That's not bad, depending on the length of the records/tuples. I think managers who could think beyond tying their shoelaces would've been better.
The summary was wrong, yes. It should've mentioned the QoS they were getting for that $3k/GB, and mentioning database backups would've helped; summary fail. Still, what's a db export/restore really cost? $3k/GB/yr? Hell, no. Not unless there's a crapload of GBs involved and a seriously busy db pulling in a crapload of sales/sec. In which case, they ought to be spending a lot more than they are on IT.
Ya get what ya pay for, if you're not a fool.
No it's not, it's merely a prerequisite, which makes IT at most an enabler, not a driver. And in most organization IT is not even an enabler, it's a cost center and in some cases a straightforward liability.
Ah, you're an accountant or in Finance, right? Please accept my apologies for wasting any time on you.