Wouldn't this be redundant? Whats hte matter? Don't we trust M$ to screw up their software enough on their own?
Ok, but seriusly, Even I dont beleive M$ is this stupid and so I will treat this article with extreme scepticism. Is these suppsoed trojans and what not were really in palce wouldn't the terrosits be attmepting to expliot them? And how long could they do that without detection?
I kind wish this were true, since it would be great ammo for people arguiing agianst security by obscurity, since this is a prime example of the potential problems of the model. However, as I said, I am highly sceptical.
This is mud int he eye of everyone who claims that *nix is inherently more secure than Windows. Oh sure, windows has had its problems, btu I think this clearly shows we are on a level playing field. Especialy when you consider that most "hackers" target MS products becuase of their percieved vulnerabilities.
This is proof positive that MicroSoft make quality products. So now, can we all jsut lay off of MS and all decend in hordes on Sun and IBM?
"I dont see why they didnt make the Hobbit first as a primer/tester for the LOTR."
Because The Hobbit is a fundamentaly differnet story. It is not the prequel, it is a chidlrens book. It was designed and written as one, and thats what it is.
LOTR is a much more complex, muhc darker and much more involved story. There are LOTR fanatics, but few Hobbit fanatics, although there are the real men, Tolkein Fanatics who study both.
All the same, the Hobbit is not so well loved, adored, fantasized over, obssesed over etc. It is an inferior bok and an inferior story, if onyl relative to the true masterpeice.:)
Im just guessing at numbers, but fiber is expensive now. It will get cheaper. Lets say the Cat5 isn't worth replacing for 10 years or so. In ten years fiber will be a _lot_ cheaper. Possibly cheap enogh to offset the cost and trouble of rewiring? Dunno, just thinking aloud.
I have to run to work, so I dont have time to check if anyone has already said this, but these adds are _not_ Internet Explroer only, whatever anyone may claim. Im seeing them in konqueror. Now I cna tell konqueror to say its i.e., but I get the adds when I dotn have that set up.
Yes, they will go through the motions and maybe, once in a blue moon find your car. But if you think for a second your case is anywhere but at hte bottom of their list your insane. Wherass, If I break intoa network I'm like as not to find the fbi at my door and me becomeing a slashdot martyr:)
Your right that there is a difference between active and passive measures.
However there also remains some practical considerations. For example, say I leave my car unlocked and the keys in the ignition. Surprise, surprise, in the morning its not there. When I o to the cops they are going to tell me its my own damn fault for making it so easy. Sure, it's still a crime to steal my car, but I'm also asking for it.
I wonder if I do take advantage of one of these networks, get proprietary information, if the cops will take a similar attitude as in the car analogy. And I also wonder if its becasue the ocmpany is bigger and richer.
The they had it coming to them defense doesn't jsutify illegal actions, but I also don't have much sympathy for a company that gets ripped of because they left the front door open.
Also, unlike with a scanner, you computer needs to be set up to scan those frequencies as part of its normal operation on your network. Imagine if you cell phone started picking up other's conversations. Sure, you still have to hold it to your ear to listen in, but thats what your suppsoed to do with the phone in the first place.
Ok, but look at it this way. You have you own wireless network. Your all set up for it. Your a windows newby and someone has set it up automaticaly to connect ot whatever network is available. The building next door also has a network. Given the large precentage of peopel who have a computer but no clue how to use it, it wont be long, if it hasnt happened already, until people are simply ont he wrong network, innocently enough. This would be the equivalent not of using a scanner but of having the guy on the cell phone, next tabel over at a restaruant, yelling so loud you can't help but overhear without taking measures yourself to insure his privacy.
I think I'll go expose mysself in a crowd. Then when Im arrested I will say that my privacy should be ensured and therefore the entire world should have looked away.
Just something that occurs to me, but if it literaly so easy to get into a company's network, can they really be said to have any expectation of privacy? If you shout something outloud in public you have none, it's perfectly legal for anyone to overhear you and act however they wish on that info. Is this significantly different?
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There's a wild fandango loose in the building!
No sir, thats a wild Boingo!
What did novice pilot ask?
Where does the boingo?
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It slices, It dices! It's boingo safe!
wtf?????
Hello? Tech support?
I've locked my hard drive in my car! p?
Ok, but seriusly, Even I dont beleive M$ is this stupid and so I will treat this article with extreme scepticism. Is these suppsoed trojans and what not were really in palce wouldn't the terrosits be attmepting to expliot them? And how long could they do that without detection?
I kind wish this were true, since it would be great ammo for people arguiing agianst security by obscurity, since this is a prime example of the potential problems of the model. However, as I said, I am highly sceptical.
ooops. i lost my sarcasm /sarcasm tags. :-(
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This is proof positive that MicroSoft make quality products. So now, can we all jsut lay off of MS and all decend in hordes on Sun and IBM?
The Hobbit is certainly up to my standards. It is one of my favorite books. But I dont confuse its level of depth or intesity with that of LOTR>
Because The Hobbit is a fundamentaly differnet story. It is not the prequel, it is a chidlrens book. It was designed and written as one, and thats what it is.
LOTR is a much more complex, muhc darker and much more involved story. There are LOTR fanatics, but few Hobbit fanatics, although there are the real men, Tolkein Fanatics who study both.
All the same, the Hobbit is not so well loved, adored, fantasized over, obssesed over etc. It is an inferior bok and an inferior story, if onyl relative to the true masterpeice.
Im just guessing at numbers, but fiber is expensive now. It will get cheaper. Lets say the Cat5 isn't worth replacing for 10 years or so. In ten years fiber will be a _lot_ cheaper. Possibly cheap enogh to offset the cost and trouble of rewiring? Dunno, just thinking aloud.
However there also remains some practical considerations. For example, say I leave my car unlocked and the keys in the ignition. Surprise, surprise, in the morning its not there. When I o to the cops they are going to tell me its my own damn fault for making it so easy. Sure, it's still a crime to steal my car, but I'm also asking for it.
I wonder if I do take advantage of one of these networks, get proprietary information, if the cops will take a similar attitude as in the car analogy. And I also wonder if its becasue the ocmpany is bigger and richer.
The they had it coming to them defense doesn't jsutify illegal actions, but I also don't have much sympathy for a company that gets ripped of because they left the front door open.
I'm not making a definate argument, but it does seem to me that a strong one could be made here.
Im well aware of proper spelling. Least-wise yould better ope so because this time next eyar I'll be a high school English teacher
Since when is "i didnt click on the links and therefore dunno what they are about" insightfull?
Hell, I didnt click on the links, mod me up!!
Worlds largest bidet would be a nice touch.
The bubble gum is kinda unrelated, but Id lvoe to see some cops bust a guy and spread him against that wall. teehee
I was knocked off but am now back on. Appear to be on ATT's new netwrok as my IP has chnaged and have no hostname associated.